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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
July 25 2011 10:15 GMT
#421
What timezone is the schedule in?
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Loodah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
335 Posts
July 25 2011 10:19 GMT
#422
On July 25 2011 11:58 SuperFanBoy wrote:
The fact is he doesn't know anything about the game.. even my 7 year old brother knows more than husky, my 7 year old brother knows the pro scene and all the top korean teams and players, and has a good understanding of the opening builds and the B/O poker that takes place in first few mins of a game.. In a recent interview Husky said that he thought TLO was the best player in the world.. I mean seriously.. does MLG actually expect us to listen to this guy?

He is good for scrub casuals because they don't understand the game..I enjoyed watching husky when I first played the game, but after few weeks when I understood the game dynamics; I quickly learned that the guy has absolutely no clue what he is talking about, and his casts became quite painful to watch.

Husky thinks shouting MOTHERRR SHIPPPPPPP for 5mins straight makes up for his lack of knowledge, well guess what husky.. it doesn't.

Edit ~ Also all the people defending Husky are casuals who will never reach high level master.. and if they did they would stop defending him.


I'm actually grandmaster on NA and EU, thanks. You're making yourself look like an idiot by making generalizations and assumptions.

Husky is a really fun caster to listen to. Not everyone is gonna like every caster - but I love Husky, and he has a huge fan base. He was at the first MLG for SC2 and that was a really special event. I'm so glad he's at this MLG as well.

He's actually a top diamond player, so those of you who think everyone knows more than him are just wrong. He says a lot of crazy stuff unrelated to the game but it's hilarious most of the time (to me and the hundreds of thousands of subscribers at least- if you don't well then don't listen to him, but you're in the minority).
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
July 25 2011 10:20 GMT
#423
All the people here talking about haters and supporting casters just don't get it. Maybe some just hate in irrational fashion, but my point is that husky is objectively (!) in important points (game knowledge, for instance) an inferior caster, and for me personally to such an amount that he hinders my ability to enjoy games he's casting, especially with his annoying way of speaking.
I guess the decision fits MLGs plans, seeing as they generally tend to the casual side with the console games and now even LoL. But I will never pay for the stream as long as they don't provide the best casters possible. And no, I haven't paid yet, regarding the failure that was Dallas, but I thought about it since Columbus. But I decided to wait for the announcement of the casters, lucky me.
And again: Everybody who wants to can enjoy him on youtube, I'm cool with that and would never say "there is no place for him in this community".
http://twitter.com/lechocopaw
Qzy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark1121 Posts
July 25 2011 10:25 GMT
#424
Oh god not husky :<. Anyway, looking forward to see IdrA!
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Loodah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
335 Posts
July 25 2011 10:27 GMT
#425
On July 25 2011 19:20 chocopaw wrote:
All the people here talking about haters and supporting casters just don't get it. Maybe some just hate in irrational fashion, but my point is that husky is objectively (!) in important points (game knowledge, for instance) an inferior caster, and for me personally to such an amount that he hinders my ability to enjoy games he's casting, especially with his annoying way of speaking.
I guess the decision fits MLGs plans, seeing as they generally tend to the casual side with the console games and now even LoL. But I will never pay for the stream as long as they don't provide the best casters possible. And no, I haven't paid yet, regarding the failure that was Dallas, but I thought about it since Columbus. But I decided to wait for the announcement of the casters, lucky me.
And again: Everybody who wants to can enjoy him on youtube, I'm cool with that and would never say "there is no place for him in this community".


I can totally understand if not everyone loves Husky. The thing is, you can't just say - "My opinion is objective and yours is subjective" - because then you're saying that everyone else is wrong but they are just fanboys. The whole idea of liking one caster over another is purely subjective. By the way I don't really understand why LoL is considered a casual game. The fact that it's free and has 10 X more people playing it than SC2 doesn't necessarily make it casual.

Like I said, I love husky - I'm really glad he's going to be there. For those of you trashing him and saying he doesn't have talent or game knowledge, it's just not true. You're making yourselves look like idiots. He's not grandmasters, so he's not as good at the game as some other casters, but neither are Artosis, Tasteless, DJWheat, or ItmeJP. As for his commentary, it's a different style than a lot of other casters - you don't have to love it, but it's subjective. Not everyone will agree on this. The fact that people are even suggesting that there is objectivity to the "best caster" argument is absurd.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
July 25 2011 10:30 GMT
#426
On July 25 2011 19:15 Hassybaby wrote:
What timezone is the schedule in?


I'm guessing PDT, in which case Europe's fucked.
SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
July 25 2011 10:31 GMT
#427
On July 25 2011 19:27 Loodah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 19:20 chocopaw wrote:
All the people here talking about haters and supporting casters just don't get it. Maybe some just hate in irrational fashion, but my point is that husky is objectively (!) in important points (game knowledge, for instance) an inferior caster, and for me personally to such an amount that he hinders my ability to enjoy games he's casting, especially with his annoying way of speaking.
I guess the decision fits MLGs plans, seeing as they generally tend to the casual side with the console games and now even LoL. But I will never pay for the stream as long as they don't provide the best casters possible. And no, I haven't paid yet, regarding the failure that was Dallas, but I thought about it since Columbus. But I decided to wait for the announcement of the casters, lucky me.
And again: Everybody who wants to can enjoy him on youtube, I'm cool with that and would never say "there is no place for him in this community".


I can totally understand if not everyone loves Husky. The thing is, you can't just say - "My opinion is objective and yours is subjective" - because then you're saying that everyone else is wrong but they are just fanboys. The whole idea of liking one caster over another is purely subjective. By the way I don't really understand why LoL is considered a casual game. The fact that it's free and has 10 X more people playing it than SC2 doesn't necessarily make it casual.

Like I said, I love husky - I'm really glad he's going to be there. For those of you trashing him and saying he doesn't have talent or game knowledge, it's just not true. You're making yourselves look like idiots. He's not grandmasters, so he's not as good at the game as some other casters, but neither are Artosis, Tasteless, DJWheat, or ItmeJP. As for his commentary, it's a different style than a lot of other casters - you don't have to love it, but it's subjective. Not everyone will agree on this. The fact that people are even suggesting that there is objectivity to the "best caster" argument is absurd.


your an idiot for putting husky in the same sentence as artosis and tasteless, your comparing a casual commentator to professional commentators..
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
July 25 2011 10:38 GMT
#428
On July 25 2011 19:31 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 19:27 Loodah wrote:
On July 25 2011 19:20 chocopaw wrote:
All the people here talking about haters and supporting casters just don't get it. Maybe some just hate in irrational fashion, but my point is that husky is objectively (!) in important points (game knowledge, for instance) an inferior caster, and for me personally to such an amount that he hinders my ability to enjoy games he's casting, especially with his annoying way of speaking.
I guess the decision fits MLGs plans, seeing as they generally tend to the casual side with the console games and now even LoL. But I will never pay for the stream as long as they don't provide the best casters possible. And no, I haven't paid yet, regarding the failure that was Dallas, but I thought about it since Columbus. But I decided to wait for the announcement of the casters, lucky me.
And again: Everybody who wants to can enjoy him on youtube, I'm cool with that and would never say "there is no place for him in this community".


I can totally understand if not everyone loves Husky. The thing is, you can't just say - "My opinion is objective and yours is subjective" - because then you're saying that everyone else is wrong but they are just fanboys. The whole idea of liking one caster over another is purely subjective. By the way I don't really understand why LoL is considered a casual game. The fact that it's free and has 10 X more people playing it than SC2 doesn't necessarily make it casual.

Like I said, I love husky - I'm really glad he's going to be there. For those of you trashing him and saying he doesn't have talent or game knowledge, it's just not true. You're making yourselves look like idiots. He's not grandmasters, so he's not as good at the game as some other casters, but neither are Artosis, Tasteless, DJWheat, or ItmeJP. As for his commentary, it's a different style than a lot of other casters - you don't have to love it, but it's subjective. Not everyone will agree on this. The fact that people are even suggesting that there is objectivity to the "best caster" argument is absurd.


your an idiot for putting husky in the same sentence as artosis and tasteless, your comparing a casual commentator to professional commentators..


Well, I wouldn't have put it that way, but he's essentially right.^^ You probably don't get what objective and subjective means.
Also, no, those facts named by you don't make LoL casual. The gameplay does.
http://twitter.com/lechocopaw
Loodah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
335 Posts
July 25 2011 10:59 GMT
#429
On July 25 2011 19:38 chocopaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 19:31 SuperFanBoy wrote:
On July 25 2011 19:27 Loodah wrote:
On July 25 2011 19:20 chocopaw wrote:
All the people here talking about haters and supporting casters just don't get it. Maybe some just hate in irrational fashion, but my point is that husky is objectively (!) in important points (game knowledge, for instance) an inferior caster, and for me personally to such an amount that he hinders my ability to enjoy games he's casting, especially with his annoying way of speaking.
I guess the decision fits MLGs plans, seeing as they generally tend to the casual side with the console games and now even LoL. But I will never pay for the stream as long as they don't provide the best casters possible. And no, I haven't paid yet, regarding the failure that was Dallas, but I thought about it since Columbus. But I decided to wait for the announcement of the casters, lucky me.
And again: Everybody who wants to can enjoy him on youtube, I'm cool with that and would never say "there is no place for him in this community".


I can totally understand if not everyone loves Husky. The thing is, you can't just say - "My opinion is objective and yours is subjective" - because then you're saying that everyone else is wrong but they are just fanboys. The whole idea of liking one caster over another is purely subjective. By the way I don't really understand why LoL is considered a casual game. The fact that it's free and has 10 X more people playing it than SC2 doesn't necessarily make it casual.

Like I said, I love husky - I'm really glad he's going to be there. For those of you trashing him and saying he doesn't have talent or game knowledge, it's just not true. You're making yourselves look like idiots. He's not grandmasters, so he's not as good at the game as some other casters, but neither are Artosis, Tasteless, DJWheat, or ItmeJP. As for his commentary, it's a different style than a lot of other casters - you don't have to love it, but it's subjective. Not everyone will agree on this. The fact that people are even suggesting that there is objectivity to the "best caster" argument is absurd.


your an idiot for putting husky in the same sentence as artosis and tasteless, your comparing a casual commentator to professional commentators..


Well, I wouldn't have put it that way, but he's essentially right.^^ You probably don't get what objective and subjective means.
Also, no, those facts named by you don't make LoL casual. The gameplay does.


I don't understand how it's casual because of the gameplay. I play both games, and I'm closer to SC2 pro level than LoL pro level - and I spend more time playing LoL. Artosis and Tasteless aren't any more professionals than Husky - he casts live events and has a youtube channel. As far as we know, his following is more than that of any other caster. He makes his living off of Starcraft 2.

It sounds like you actually don't know the difference between subjective and objective. Saying that he doesn't know what he's talking about or that his analysis isn't "good" doesn't make it objective.

Even if every single team liquid member said they hated Husky and that he didn't know anything would not make it objective. When the argument is basically "I don't like this guy because ... " even if you have valid reasons, it's still subjective. It's your opinion.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 11:07:53
July 25 2011 11:04 GMT
#430
I don't get why people say Husky doesn't know the game when he is actually one of the few casters that knows some shit.

Husky actually goes into the game when others don't. He doesn't just say random bs but actually analyzes the playstyles and focuses on what the players actually want to do and is often times right.
Of course he is no tastosis but these guys are being paid for a good reason

So why are people saying "Husky is so bad at the game" when this is just wrong?
I guess it comes from all the master league players that think they are on pro level and have to hate what some other pro hates, too.

I'm totally fine with Husky.
What bothers me more is MrBitter, but thats just personal preference.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
July 25 2011 11:19 GMT
#431
On July 25 2011 19:19 Loodah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 11:58 SuperFanBoy wrote:
The fact is he doesn't know anything about the game.. even my 7 year old brother knows more than husky, my 7 year old brother knows the pro scene and all the top korean teams and players, and has a good understanding of the opening builds and the B/O poker that takes place in first few mins of a game.. In a recent interview Husky said that he thought TLO was the best player in the world.. I mean seriously.. does MLG actually expect us to listen to this guy?

He is good for scrub casuals because they don't understand the game..I enjoyed watching husky when I first played the game, but after few weeks when I understood the game dynamics; I quickly learned that the guy has absolutely no clue what he is talking about, and his casts became quite painful to watch.

Husky thinks shouting MOTHERRR SHIPPPPPPP for 5mins straight makes up for his lack of knowledge, well guess what husky.. it doesn't.

Edit ~ Also all the people defending Husky are casuals who will never reach high level master.. and if they did they would stop defending him.


I'm actually grandmaster on NA and EU, thanks. You're making yourself look like an idiot by making generalizations and assumptions.

Husky is a really fun caster to listen to. Not everyone is gonna like every caster - but I love Husky, and he has a huge fan base. He was at the first MLG for SC2 and that was a really special event. I'm so glad he's at this MLG as well.

He's actually a top diamond player, so those of you who think everyone knows more than him are just wrong. He says a lot of crazy stuff unrelated to the game but it's hilarious most of the time (to me and the hundreds of thousands of subscribers at least- if you don't well then don't listen to him, but you're in the minority).



top diamond on us though.... : D

OT, i think its important for the stream to be different from the day9 stream, however they want to do that. so maybe husky will work out well for them
Telebear
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom107 Posts
July 25 2011 11:25 GMT
#432
if people dont like husky then just dont watch the stream, no one is forcing you to so stop complaining about something that only effects you if you choose to let it
DonkeyShot
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany63 Posts
July 25 2011 11:28 GMT
#433
I'm so PUMPED! Can't wait for this! Husky and Mr. Bitter are going to do great. Husky does a good show and Mr. Bitter knows a lot about the game from talking to Pros basically everyday.
ChowChillaCharlie
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden677 Posts
July 25 2011 11:31 GMT
#434
On July 25 2011 19:07 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Well Husky only tends to people who are new to the game, where as someone like Artosis tends to everyone. By the way judging by your post your not master league. gg kid.

The irony of you calling me "kid" is baffling. And if we're gonna start putting each other in leagues just by judging each other's posts then you'd be forever bronze my friend.

I like how some people actually use what league they're in (or trying to get us to think they're in) as a way to strengthen their argument, like as if would make them better then other SC2/E-sports fans that ain't as high up. Ridiculous.
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
July 25 2011 11:34 GMT
#435
I hate mrBitter's casting. Its always so bias for zerg. Either its protoss has this "impossible to stop" army or terran has this "impossible to stop" timing. Everything zerg does is brilliant while every terran and toss player is cheesy.
Loodah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
335 Posts
July 25 2011 11:35 GMT
#436
On July 25 2011 20:31 ChowChillaCharlie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 19:07 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Well Husky only tends to people who are new to the game, where as someone like Artosis tends to everyone. By the way judging by your post your not master league. gg kid.

The irony of you calling me "kid" is baffling. And if we're gonna start putting each other in leagues just by judging each other's posts then you'd be forever bronze my friend.

I like how some people actually use what league they're in (or trying to get us to think they're in) as a way to strengthen their argument, like as if would make them better then other SC2/E-sports fans that ain't as high up. Ridiculous.


And the funniest thing about that is - I'm a higher league than this guy and love husky.
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
July 25 2011 11:36 GMT
#437
only looking forward to day9 commentating live regardless of the game...
StimMarine
Profile Joined March 2011
723 Posts
July 25 2011 11:38 GMT
#438
They hired Husky because he has a huge Youtube fanbase.
smallerk
Profile Joined October 2010
897 Posts
July 25 2011 11:40 GMT
#439
On July 25 2011 20:34 xbankx wrote:
I hate mrBitter's casting. Its always so bias for zerg. Either its protoss has this "impossible to stop" army or terran has this "impossible to stop" timing. Everything zerg does is brilliant while every terran and toss player is cheesy.


Sadly, this.Last time i listened to one of his casts anyway.

Maybe he has improved, hope he did, otherwise i will just put the stream hes casting on the second monitor muted, problem solved
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Scheefe
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands226 Posts
July 25 2011 11:41 GMT
#440
People should stop complaining about Husky and MrBitter, they will do fine, MrBitter has enough experience to provide good analyzing and Husky's all known for his play-by-play.

I think the event is going to be awesome even without Tastosis. Im really looking forward to seeying DongRaeGu in action!
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