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Page 26 and onwards I will issue at least two day bans to anyone who clearly has not read the original topic post and the explanations contained therein. He was barred access to the event days before the actual event took place and used some random diamond player his account to try and get in anyway.
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On July 18 2011 23:31 NotSupporting wrote:
I really hope Sixjax kicks him out of the team, this is not professional in any sense of the way and not a player any serious organization should sponsor. Hell, back in the maphack scandal days the cheaters would atleast be mannered when getting caught, this guy comes in here acting like a total douche. If I were a tournament organizer I would ban this guy without hesitating.
He's not going to be kicked from the team. He's their best player, but most importantly has the personal backing of the team's captain Artosis.
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On July 18 2011 23:28 Bobble wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 23:23 HaRxTears wrote:On July 18 2011 22:29 kellymilkies wrote:On July 18 2011 21:31 deL wrote:On July 18 2011 21:09 sixjaxMajor wrote:On July 18 2011 20:52 Ipp wrote:There is fault on both sides, just because Major has a bad past he is getting the huge PR Hit. Maybe I'm wrong but here is how I understand everything went down. - The official post states "Anyone with a valid SEA battle.net account can participate."
- Major buys a SEA Account expecting to compensate himself with tournament winnings.
- Major doesn't get seeded, and asks why.
- Admin says "You are not SEA Citizen", which is in the TL Tracker but not the forum post. Expecting a person to read both the TL Tracker + Official post is a little bit much.
- Upset Major, decides to smurf even after the admin said he couldn't play as a "F U for making me spend ~$60 for nothing."
Was Major right in smurfing? No. But the mistake was on both parties in this case. In my opinion they should not of kicked him out but if he won they should have given the prize money to the account holder. It would be up to the account holder to decide if Major gets the money or not, so if it was just a random person on the internet chances are Major wouldn't get paid anyways and he cannot complain about anything. Smurfing happens. We had an oGs player smurf one of the RQTV Opens but without explicit rules, I doubt the community would react this way. The only reason this is a "big deal" is because it is infact Major. I could understand if he didn't perform well in MLG but cut the man some slack. pretty much sum up everything and yes i didnt had to buy an account on the sea server but i had to use the playtime i had avaible for some other tourney cause missleading thread, i talked with Del 3-4 days before event asking if he could lend me an account to play on the tournament, he reponse me by saying he didnt think it was possible for me to play on the tourney but he wasnt sure but he said go register up and if they allow u to play i will lend u one, which by that time i realized i had to post my id - char code so i decided to use the playtime of the main account after logging in with the acc and going to the channel after seeing they didnt put me in the brackets god knows why @dox@ told me i wasnt allowed to play cause i wasnt a sea cetizen which pissed me off to the max cause thats not what the thread said it, it clearly said anyone with a valid sea account could play in the tournament after being denied i asked one member if i could play under his acc in the tourney to try to compensate the fact that i would have to refill my playtime cause i have another tournament in that same server, he agreed so i just proceed to play and all those screen shots in the 1st page are after they discovered i was playing with that account. Do you think everyone is stupid? In May you asked me if you could play in SEA tourneys and I told you that the only ones you'd be allowed to enter are the ESL Go4SC2 tournaments. You told me you could just lie, and then on the Wednesday before the tournament you specifically asked me if you were able to join the tourney in question here. I consulted with Dox just to confirm what I already thought and indeed you were not able play. Then you asked me for a SEA account to use so knowing the rules you went out of your way to circumvent them to play in the tournament and stop trying to pretend otherwise. Major stop being a douche. You did a dickmove and you are wrong. Just apologise and learn from it. You were told clearly 1000000000 times that you can't play in the tournament and yet you still abused the organiser who is sponsoring the tournament and then proceed to insult the whole SEA server. You were told days before that you couldn't play and I'm sure that was before you bought the account. After being told repeatedly that you are not allowed to join the tournament, you then proceeded to smurf in the tournament. It's not a big deal yes, but the fact is you cheated. Since we are obviously not good enough for you please stay away from the server or our events and tournaments. Just so you know, you had a lot of fans from SEA because you are such a great Terran player but I assure you by abusing the standard of play in SEA etc, that has lost you 99% of those fans. I cannot believe that you are trying to argue and prove that you are right. Apologise and move on dude. Omg are you the SEA server? So your words holds 99% of all the SEA server opinions? Damn you must be awesome...rofllolmao You are right in the not good part tho....major definitly would stomp every SEA player. ;D But I seriously doubt that. 
Me 2 but just had to throw it out ;D Everyone is raging in this thread anyways and repeating what some other dude said every 10 posts back. People should just drink some tea and chill ;D
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On July 18 2011 22:43 butchji wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 22:41 foxmeep wrote:On July 18 2011 22:38 billyX333 wrote:On July 18 2011 22:31 foxmeep wrote:
Kid's just bitter about life cause he's fat and hideously ugly. there is not a single happy, self secure person on this planet who would make this comment you must be pretty miserable yourself Yeah sure, why not. Or, the kid is a douche to my community so I choose to insult him where it'll hurt him the most. Pretty simple concept if you ask me, no need to over analyse anything. PS: I'm done here. Please don't tell me you are older than 15 or I'll lose all my faith in humanity.
wow dude, tone down the self righteous bullshit huh? He's already banned
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This is nothing like the Savior incident due to the scale.
Hackers/cheaters/abusers are treated the same here.
Speak for yourself.
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I think I like major more and more with every passing day. This is hysterical as are Major's opinions.
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On July 18 2011 23:35 StarStruck wrote:
This is nothing like the Savior incident due to the scale.
Hackers/cheaters/abusers are treated the same here.
Speak for yourself.
All the little things add up. Also, due to the scale of the SEA server it most certainly had a profound effect.
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On July 18 2011 23:38 Mattchew wrote:
I think I like major more and more with every passing day. This is hysterical as are Major's opinions.
Yeah cheating people out of the money they used from their own pocket is just a hoot.
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You guys think he's good? He might be the best SixJax gaming player but I mean let's be real here. He wouldn't make it past Code-A. Don't even know if he'd get into Code-A now.LOL
This is more of an embarrassment to him as a human being calling people "fa*s" and "terrible" over a computer game hiding behind a monitor and a keyboard. I love Artosis and he's a great guy but this guy's mentality is stuck in the teenage years. I don't think he has the right to call anyone terrible when he hasn't done anything reputable in a game he calls himself a "professional" in while he doesn't act professional at all.
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Its hard to believe that people are going so off track with the main discussion and asking why Dox would make a SEA citizen only tournament. Not only did he explain why (if you took the time to read it that is), but if you really believe in international tournament, well go ahead and fork out your own money, im sure plenty of people will be happy about it, for this tournament, well it was the guys money, and he decided he wanted to put it to promote a particular community, how is there anything wrong with that.
As for the main issue at hand, well, I cant say I find it quite surprising. Major has always been a very good player that lacked greatly the maturity to be respected. Every month or so theres something new about him popping out so, its not as surprising at it used to be anymore. Not sure how someone could back him up on this though... (unless you havent read the OP obviously...)
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Artosis is probably face-palming hard-core right now. Even if this isn't a big deal (which it kind of is), I'm sure that no team manager/captain wants to have to waste time/effort with PR damage control.
Someone needs to explain to him that the only reason IdrA can get away with publicly being a huge dick to everyone is because he plays Zerg. Terran players aren't likely to get even the tiniest bit of sympathy from anyone.
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Well, Major has always been a little on the immature side. But he is still a great player. I hope he doesn't do anything stupid.
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On July 18 2011 23:43 Pyo wrote:
Artosis is probably face-palming hard-core right now. Even if this isn't a big deal (which it kind of is), I'm sure that no team manager/captain wants to have to waste time/effort with PR damage control.
Someone needs to explain to him that the only reason IdrA can get away with publicly being a huge dick to everyone is because he plays Zerg. Terran players aren't likely to get even the tiniest bit of sympathy from anyone.
This isn't really the same. IdrA is just a BM'ing ass. In this instance major broke a tournament rule he fully understood. I have never talked to IdrA but from what I hear from people who run tournaments he is a joy to work with and always on-time and communicating.
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On July 18 2011 23:43 Pyo wrote:
Artosis is probably face-palming hard-core right now. Even if this isn't a big deal (which it kind of is), I'm sure that no team manager/captain wants to have to waste time/effort with PR damage control.
Someone needs to explain to him that the only reason IdrA can get away with publicly being a huge dick to everyone is because he plays Zerg. Terran players aren't likely to get even the tiniest bit of sympathy from anyone.
Theres a huge difference here between idra and major please dont bring idra anywhere near this thread as he has never done anything like this.
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On July 18 2011 23:43 Pyo wrote:
Artosis is probably face-palming hard-core right now. Even if this isn't a big deal (which it kind of is), I'm sure that no team manager/captain wants to have to waste time/effort with PR damage control.
Someone needs to explain to him that the only reason IdrA can get away with publicly being a huge dick to everyone is because he plays Zerg. Terran players aren't likely to get even the tiniest bit of sympathy from anyone.
No, the reason IdrA can get away with being a dick to everyone is that everyone can get away with being a dick to everyone. IdrA would not (I hope) be able to get away with actually cheating.
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He is a great player! Vey skilled Terran player....but my respect for him has diminished considerably, for his behaviour to the community and esport. Regardless of how "insignificant" of an event, as some will put it, you shouldnt degrade yourself to a point of disrepecting people and most of all yourself.
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On July 18 2011 23:31 CajunMan wrote:
Is it really that big of a deal? He's still a great player just trying to make a living he shouldn't have done it but meh he didn't shake any babies or gain anything why is everyone in here treating him like sAvior ?
It was the smurfing that pissed people off, it was the way Major behaved during the whole ordeal, he abused the tournament organizers, he acted like a child after being disqualified, and then he takes a dump on the SEA community.
If Major had came out with a "Sorry I misunderstood rules (A lie, but at least an apology), very sorry guys, will not do again, would like to apologize to SEA community", I'm pretty sure this whole thing would have died down, but instead he chose to cover up his lies with more lies and just add fuel to the fire.
From what I can tell, the only things these so called Major supporters can come up with, are ad hominem arguments, "SEA sucks shit anyways, SEA players are bad and major would have won, they are scared." It has nothing to do with that, and for Major to even say that is so low. SEA has close to zero pro gaming infrastructure, most of the players being Semi-Pro, and those are mainly the Oceanic countries, the actual SEA continent comprises of semi pros and casual gamers. For Major, a pro gamer from a so called 'top tier' gaming team, to insult all of the SEA players, is like a pro athlete insulting the skill level of high school athletes.
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On July 18 2011 23:45 Zaros wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 23:43 Pyo wrote:
Artosis is probably face-palming hard-core right now. Even if this isn't a big deal (which it kind of is), I'm sure that no team manager/captain wants to have to waste time/effort with PR damage control.
Someone needs to explain to him that the only reason IdrA can get away with publicly being a huge dick to everyone is because he plays Zerg. Terran players aren't likely to get even the tiniest bit of sympathy from anyone. Theres a huge difference here between idra and major please dont bring idra anywhere near this thread as he has never done anything like this.
http://www.gosugamers.net/hon/news.php?id=4720
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On July 18 2011 23:46 aristarchus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 23:43 Pyo wrote:
Artosis is probably face-palming hard-core right now. Even if this isn't a big deal (which it kind of is), I'm sure that no team manager/captain wants to have to waste time/effort with PR damage control.
Someone needs to explain to him that the only reason IdrA can get away with publicly being a huge dick to everyone is because he plays Zerg. Terran players aren't likely to get even the tiniest bit of sympathy from anyone. No, the reason IdrA can get away with being a dick to everyone is that everyone can get away with being a dick to everyone. IdrA would not (I hope) be able to get away with actually cheating.
Considering idra doesn't even play in North American tournaments unless they are very big, I doubt hes smurfing on SEA ones. And idra isn't nearly as bad anymore, hes even saying gg sometimes when he loses now.
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On July 18 2011 23:32 Zaros wrote:
Wow how has this topic moved on to bashing the SEA server and kellymilkies, this is about major cheating a tournament not about the quality of a server or one persons ligitamate response to major's terrible response to this thread.
Major's responses have made it a 1000x worse now, ill be 100% sure not to support him or anyone who is defending him.
Sorry i was not bashing kelly milkies, i was just pointing out that mabye she shouldn't be speaking on behalf of anyone but herself, as this is very immature and childish. I tried to point it out in the best way i could.
I totally agree with her other points though, i think its clear for all to see what sixjaxmajor has done and how he has acted.
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On July 18 2011 23:43 Pyo wrote:
Artosis is probably face-palming hard-core right now. Even if this isn't a big deal (which it kind of is), I'm sure that no team manager/captain wants to have to waste time/effort with PR damage control.
Someone needs to explain to him that the only reason IdrA can get away with publicly being a huge dick to everyone is because he plays Zerg. Terran players aren't likely to get even the tiniest bit of sympathy from anyone.
idra might be a dick sometimes but he's not a cheater
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