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Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
July 16 2011 21:52 GMT
#1641
On July 17 2011 06:51 FryktSkyene wrote:
So hes already made profit from just surviving so long?



Not thay easy you know...
Tomorrow never comes until its too late...
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
July 16 2011 21:52 GMT
#1642
On July 17 2011 06:49 SKaysc wrote:
damn, if he makes 50k off this event, that's already equivalent to winning nasl ^_^


Don't forget he has "sold" 50% of his winnings
Dead girls don't say no.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
July 16 2011 21:53 GMT
#1643
On July 17 2011 06:51 FryktSkyene wrote:
So hes already made profit from just surviving so long?



Yes, that's how poker tournaments work, it's a battle to see who can survive the longest. He's already in the money; the longer he survives, the more he wins.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
July 16 2011 21:53 GMT
#1644
On July 17 2011 06:51 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 06:38 RoninMugen wrote:
On July 17 2011 06:34 jinixxx123 wrote:
im curious why kiwi plays sc2 , it costs 10 000 just to enter this poker event while mlg has its top prize as 5000...............

if i was in his position i'd be playing poker full time, if he plays sc2 purely for passion thats amazing.



This... if Kiwi is this good at poker, he literally loses money every hour he devotes to SC2.

Still, have to give him credit for doing at least 2 things he loves to do full time and earns a living both ways!


Do you really believe that?

Finishing Top 3 in IPL gives him a ridiculous payday, no risk. There are some well-known names who can lose hundreds of thousands (and in rare cases, millions) in a year from poker. Just because Kiwikaki did well in this tournament (and I love him) doesn't mean he can make it a living - you look at players like Greg Raynor who've won the Main Event, and proceeded to crap out poker at tables in Vegas and in other tournaments.

Is poker more profitable? Potentially. But it's also a ton more risky. Think about it this way - for every dollar you gain from playing poker, someone out there is losing more than a dollar (after factoring in rakes and whatnot).

Also online poker is so unstable now, especially with the Black Friday stuff... just because you "earned" money online doesn't mean you will actually be able to cash out...

cant compare sc2 and poker money wise, poker is infinitely more profitable
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 16 2011 21:54 GMT
#1645
On July 17 2011 06:51 FryktSkyene wrote:
So hes already made profit from just surviving so long?



More like he's made a profit from playing smart for 5 days.
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Meastro
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands547 Posts
July 16 2011 21:54 GMT
#1646
On July 17 2011 06:51 FryktSkyene wrote:
So hes already made profit from just surviving so long?


Quite right indeed, he has about 25k profit at the moment
[Silverflame]
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany640 Posts
July 16 2011 21:54 GMT
#1647
I think KiWi is out after his +200.000 trend unfortunately. I do not find him on the chip count list :/
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Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
July 16 2011 21:55 GMT
#1648
Just a question from a considering "surviving": How long would you stay in the tournament by just paying blinds, never playing a hand and waiting till you loose all chips?
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 21:57:56
July 16 2011 21:57 GMT
#1649
On July 17 2011 06:55 Mafe wrote:
Just a question from a considering "surviving": How long would you stay in the tournament by just paying blinds, never playing a hand and waiting till you loose all chips?


You start with 30,000. Blinds yesterday when they went into the money we're 1500 small 3000 big.

Argument going on what's it about?
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 16 2011 21:57 GMT
#1650
On July 17 2011 06:54 [Silverflame] wrote:
I think KiWi is out after his +200.000 trend unfortunately. I do not find him on the chip count list :/


Holy fuck how many times does this have to be explained before people start reading the thread lol...

First of all, if he's flat out busted, Fayth would probably update us

Second of all, the WSOP site and pokernews even, rarely update kiwikaki's chip count

Just rely on word of mouth from the direct source which is Fayth.
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schlafi
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany7 Posts
July 16 2011 21:57 GMT
#1651
On July 17 2011 06:55 Mafe wrote:
Just a question from a considering "surviving": How long would you stay in the tournament by just paying blinds, never playing a hand and waiting till you loose all chips?

Not so long, since the blinds are increasing, I suppose.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 16 2011 21:57 GMT
#1652
On July 17 2011 06:57 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 06:55 Mafe wrote:
Just a question from a considering "surviving": How long would you stay in the tournament by just paying blinds, never playing a hand and waiting till you loose all chips?


You start with 30,000. Blinds yesterday when they went into the money we're 1500 small 3000 big.

you wouldn't make it past day1
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FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
July 16 2011 21:57 GMT
#1653
On July 17 2011 06:55 Mafe wrote:
Just a question from a considering "surviving": How long would you stay in the tournament by just paying blinds, never playing a hand and waiting till you loose all chips?


I was just about to ask the same thing :p

I know blinds get bigger, but how fast do they increase?
Snitches get stiches
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
July 16 2011 21:58 GMT
#1654
On July 17 2011 06:42 FMonk wrote:
http://www.pokernews.com/live-reporting/2011-world-series-of-poker/event-58-no-limit-hold-em-championship/chips.12274.htm

Chip count update. Shows Kiwi at 460k.


if this is correct

only 17 k behind Negreanu

not too shabby
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 21:58:42
July 16 2011 21:58 GMT
#1655
On July 17 2011 06:57 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 06:54 [Silverflame] wrote:
I think KiWi is out after his +200.000 trend unfortunately. I do not find him on the chip count list :/


Holy fuck how many times does this have to be explained before people start reading the thread lol...

First of all, if he's flat out busted, Fayth would probably update us

Second of all, the WSOP site and pokernews even, rarely update kiwikaki's chip count

Just rely on word of mouth from the direct source which is Fayth.


Yeah, plus there is a list which updates bust outs pretty regularly.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
pepperman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States180 Posts
July 16 2011 21:58 GMT
#1656
On July 17 2011 06:54 [Silverflame] wrote:
I think KiWi is out after his +200.000 trend unfortunately. I do not find him on the chip count list :/


Looks like we have another who didn't read the OP...
Mun Seong-Won!
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 21:59:07
July 16 2011 21:58 GMT
#1657
edit: Apparently I have to read OP
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
July 16 2011 21:58 GMT
#1658
Fayth is still at the venue? Watching kiwis table i'm assumeing?
Snitches get stiches
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
July 16 2011 21:59 GMT
#1659
On July 17 2011 06:55 Mafe wrote:
Just a question from a considering "surviving": How long would you stay in the tournament by just paying blinds, never playing a hand and waiting till you loose all chips?

Depends on blind level and your stack.
You seriously think ANY player at this stage would play that "strategy"? :D
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 22:00:15
July 16 2011 21:59 GMT
#1660
On July 17 2011 06:58 FryktSkyene wrote:
Fayth is still at the venue? Watching kiwis table i'm assumeing?


Fayth isn't there, but he's friends and staking kiwi so he's getting updates from him.
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