• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:37
CET 07:37
KST 15:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation12Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
Zerg is losing its identity in StarCraft 2 Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ What happened to TvZ on Retro? SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
PvZ map balance Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers How to stay on top of macro?
Other Games
General Games
Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2102 users

Kiwikaki at WSOP Featured Table - Page 83

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 81 82 83 84 85 103 Next
Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
July 16 2011 21:52 GMT
#1641
On July 17 2011 06:51 FryktSkyene wrote:
So hes already made profit from just surviving so long?



Not thay easy you know...
Tomorrow never comes until its too late...
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
July 16 2011 21:52 GMT
#1642
On July 17 2011 06:49 SKaysc wrote:
damn, if he makes 50k off this event, that's already equivalent to winning nasl ^_^


Don't forget he has "sold" 50% of his winnings
Dead girls don't say no.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
July 16 2011 21:53 GMT
#1643
On July 17 2011 06:51 FryktSkyene wrote:
So hes already made profit from just surviving so long?



Yes, that's how poker tournaments work, it's a battle to see who can survive the longest. He's already in the money; the longer he survives, the more he wins.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
July 16 2011 21:53 GMT
#1644
On July 17 2011 06:51 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 06:38 RoninMugen wrote:
On July 17 2011 06:34 jinixxx123 wrote:
im curious why kiwi plays sc2 , it costs 10 000 just to enter this poker event while mlg has its top prize as 5000...............

if i was in his position i'd be playing poker full time, if he plays sc2 purely for passion thats amazing.



This... if Kiwi is this good at poker, he literally loses money every hour he devotes to SC2.

Still, have to give him credit for doing at least 2 things he loves to do full time and earns a living both ways!


Do you really believe that?

Finishing Top 3 in IPL gives him a ridiculous payday, no risk. There are some well-known names who can lose hundreds of thousands (and in rare cases, millions) in a year from poker. Just because Kiwikaki did well in this tournament (and I love him) doesn't mean he can make it a living - you look at players like Greg Raynor who've won the Main Event, and proceeded to crap out poker at tables in Vegas and in other tournaments.

Is poker more profitable? Potentially. But it's also a ton more risky. Think about it this way - for every dollar you gain from playing poker, someone out there is losing more than a dollar (after factoring in rakes and whatnot).

Also online poker is so unstable now, especially with the Black Friday stuff... just because you "earned" money online doesn't mean you will actually be able to cash out...

cant compare sc2 and poker money wise, poker is infinitely more profitable
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 16 2011 21:54 GMT
#1645
On July 17 2011 06:51 FryktSkyene wrote:
So hes already made profit from just surviving so long?



More like he's made a profit from playing smart for 5 days.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Meastro
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands547 Posts
July 16 2011 21:54 GMT
#1646
On July 17 2011 06:51 FryktSkyene wrote:
So hes already made profit from just surviving so long?


Quite right indeed, he has about 25k profit at the moment
[Silverflame]
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany640 Posts
July 16 2011 21:54 GMT
#1647
I think KiWi is out after his +200.000 trend unfortunately. I do not find him on the chip count list :/
Fav P Stork / Fav T Fantasy / Fav Z Hoejja
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
July 16 2011 21:55 GMT
#1648
Just a question from a considering "surviving": How long would you stay in the tournament by just paying blinds, never playing a hand and waiting till you loose all chips?
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 21:57:56
July 16 2011 21:57 GMT
#1649
On July 17 2011 06:55 Mafe wrote:
Just a question from a considering "surviving": How long would you stay in the tournament by just paying blinds, never playing a hand and waiting till you loose all chips?


You start with 30,000. Blinds yesterday when they went into the money we're 1500 small 3000 big.

Argument going on what's it about?
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 16 2011 21:57 GMT
#1650
On July 17 2011 06:54 [Silverflame] wrote:
I think KiWi is out after his +200.000 trend unfortunately. I do not find him on the chip count list :/


Holy fuck how many times does this have to be explained before people start reading the thread lol...

First of all, if he's flat out busted, Fayth would probably update us

Second of all, the WSOP site and pokernews even, rarely update kiwikaki's chip count

Just rely on word of mouth from the direct source which is Fayth.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
schlafi
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany7 Posts
July 16 2011 21:57 GMT
#1651
On July 17 2011 06:55 Mafe wrote:
Just a question from a considering "surviving": How long would you stay in the tournament by just paying blinds, never playing a hand and waiting till you loose all chips?

Not so long, since the blinds are increasing, I suppose.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 16 2011 21:57 GMT
#1652
On July 17 2011 06:57 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 06:55 Mafe wrote:
Just a question from a considering "surviving": How long would you stay in the tournament by just paying blinds, never playing a hand and waiting till you loose all chips?


You start with 30,000. Blinds yesterday when they went into the money we're 1500 small 3000 big.

you wouldn't make it past day1
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
July 16 2011 21:57 GMT
#1653
On July 17 2011 06:55 Mafe wrote:
Just a question from a considering "surviving": How long would you stay in the tournament by just paying blinds, never playing a hand and waiting till you loose all chips?


I was just about to ask the same thing :p

I know blinds get bigger, but how fast do they increase?
Snitches get stiches
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
July 16 2011 21:58 GMT
#1654
On July 17 2011 06:42 FMonk wrote:
http://www.pokernews.com/live-reporting/2011-world-series-of-poker/event-58-no-limit-hold-em-championship/chips.12274.htm

Chip count update. Shows Kiwi at 460k.


if this is correct

only 17 k behind Negreanu

not too shabby
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 21:58:42
July 16 2011 21:58 GMT
#1655
On July 17 2011 06:57 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 06:54 [Silverflame] wrote:
I think KiWi is out after his +200.000 trend unfortunately. I do not find him on the chip count list :/


Holy fuck how many times does this have to be explained before people start reading the thread lol...

First of all, if he's flat out busted, Fayth would probably update us

Second of all, the WSOP site and pokernews even, rarely update kiwikaki's chip count

Just rely on word of mouth from the direct source which is Fayth.


Yeah, plus there is a list which updates bust outs pretty regularly.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
pepperman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States180 Posts
July 16 2011 21:58 GMT
#1656
On July 17 2011 06:54 [Silverflame] wrote:
I think KiWi is out after his +200.000 trend unfortunately. I do not find him on the chip count list :/


Looks like we have another who didn't read the OP...
Mun Seong-Won!
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 21:59:07
July 16 2011 21:58 GMT
#1657
edit: Apparently I have to read OP
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
July 16 2011 21:58 GMT
#1658
Fayth is still at the venue? Watching kiwis table i'm assumeing?
Snitches get stiches
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
July 16 2011 21:59 GMT
#1659
On July 17 2011 06:55 Mafe wrote:
Just a question from a considering "surviving": How long would you stay in the tournament by just paying blinds, never playing a hand and waiting till you loose all chips?

Depends on blind level and your stack.
You seriously think ANY player at this stage would play that "strategy"? :D
<3 the >))))))))0>
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 22:00:15
July 16 2011 21:59 GMT
#1660
On July 17 2011 06:58 FryktSkyene wrote:
Fayth is still at the venue? Watching kiwis table i'm assumeing?


Fayth isn't there, but he's friends and staking kiwi so he's getting updates from him.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Prev 1 81 82 83 84 85 103 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
20:30
Best Games of SC
Serral vs Clem
Solar vs Cure
Serral vs Clem
Reynor vs GuMiho
herO vs Cure
LiquipediaDiscussion
OSC
19:00
Masters Cup #150: Group B
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 210
StarCraft: Brood War
actioN 629
Leta 283
Larva 139
yabsab 91
EffOrt 63
Bale 11
Dota 2
monkeys_forever554
NeuroSwarm106
League of Legends
JimRising 654
Other Games
summit1g15018
fl0m571
WinterStarcraft399
Fuzer 197
ViBE160
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick481
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 35
• Berry_CruncH2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt537
• HappyZerGling123
Other Games
• Scarra1364
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3h 23m
RSL Revival
3h 23m
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
5h 23m
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs TBD
WardiTV Korean Royale
5h 23m
BSL 21
13h 23m
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
13h 23m
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
16h 23m
Wardi Open
1d 5h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 10h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL: GosuLeague
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
BSL: GosuLeague
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
IPSL
6 days
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-14
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.