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Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
July 16 2011 21:13 GMT
#1561
On July 17 2011 06:12 FawkingGoomba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 06:10 JWD wrote:
On July 17 2011 06:08 FawkingGoomba wrote:
The rule he's complaining about is that you can't talk about your own hand when it's heads up (1v1)

I don't know that much about poker, but this rule makes no sense to me. What's the rationale? I though it was just part of the game (bluffing etc.) that you can always talk about your hand.

That's the reason everyone is complaining. It's always been a part of the game and is an important strategy for heads up poker. The rationale is essentially that the WSOP tournament admins don't like that aspect of the game and want it out. The mindgames of heads up poker is one of the most exciting parts, it's a shame they cut it out.


What don't they like?
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
DotADeMoN
Profile Joined June 2010
United States517 Posts
July 16 2011 21:14 GMT
#1562
On July 17 2011 06:13 Emporio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 06:12 FawkingGoomba wrote:
On July 17 2011 06:10 JWD wrote:
On July 17 2011 06:08 FawkingGoomba wrote:
The rule he's complaining about is that you can't talk about your own hand when it's heads up (1v1)

I don't know that much about poker, but this rule makes no sense to me. What's the rationale? I though it was just part of the game (bluffing etc.) that you can always talk about your hand.

That's the reason everyone is complaining. It's always been a part of the game and is an important strategy for heads up poker. The rationale is essentially that the WSOP tournament admins don't like that aspect of the game and want it out. The mindgames of heads up poker is one of the most exciting parts, it's a shame they cut it out.


What don't they like?

They don't like that you can talk your opponent into making certain moves. Don't understand the rule, it's dumb.
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
July 16 2011 21:15 GMT
#1563
On July 17 2011 05:59 SafeAsCheese wrote:
How much of poker would you guys say is luck?

The US considers it "gambling", yet someone has won this championship two times, so obviously SKILL is the contributing factor here. But isn't luck of the draw a small part of it as well, similar to Starcraft where you might scout properly yet skill miss something important due to bad luck?

Would you say it's 95% skill 5% luck, or is luck more important?


I couldn't begin to give you a percentage but I think Poker is a game of probabilities and percentages more so than luck. Phil Helmuth has 11 bracelets with 45 final tables appearances. That's not luck.
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 16 2011 21:16 GMT
#1564
What a river. Snappppp
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Poyo
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada790 Posts
July 16 2011 21:16 GMT
#1565
wowowow
Poyo! poyo! poyo! poyo! poyo!
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
July 16 2011 21:16 GMT
#1566
How do rankings work? Isn't it in everyone's favor to play slower than other tables to get eliminated slower?
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
blowfish
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria238 Posts
July 16 2011 21:17 GMT
#1567
I really hope he gets a winstreak an scores big - I would really love him to win alot
laharl23
Profile Joined February 2011
United States582 Posts
July 16 2011 21:17 GMT
#1568
nice hand
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
July 16 2011 21:17 GMT
#1569
I think it says alot about our community that there are probably a ton of people watching the stream from this thread alone, just because Kiwikaki is playing, and we in all likelihood won't even see him today. Pretty badass.
Jieun <3
Pcgamer72
Profile Joined July 2011
United States40 Posts
July 16 2011 21:17 GMT
#1570
How much longer are they playing for today?
Pleiades
Profile Joined June 2010
United States472 Posts
July 16 2011 21:18 GMT
#1571
Hahaha, yeah that river! I would of done the same too.
I love you sarge.... AHHHH
seumdwa
Profile Joined June 2011
United States133 Posts
July 16 2011 21:18 GMT
#1572
On July 17 2011 06:17 Pcgamer72 wrote:
How much longer are they playing for today?


I think about another 8-9 hours or so.
에이핑크 | http://seumdwa.minus.com/
DotADeMoN
Profile Joined June 2010
United States517 Posts
July 16 2011 21:18 GMT
#1573
On July 17 2011 06:17 Pcgamer72 wrote:
How much longer are they playing for today?


Dinner break in a bit, then till 2:30am EST.
S.O.L.I.D.
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States792 Posts
July 16 2011 21:18 GMT
#1574
Ooh I wanted Lipkin to do better (since he's a Chicagoan) but hey he got himself some nice cash.
Phenrei
Profile Joined July 2010
United States162 Posts
July 16 2011 21:19 GMT
#1575
On July 17 2011 06:16 Emporio wrote:
How do rankings work? Isn't it in everyone's favor to play slower than other tables to get eliminated slower?


People are eliminated in order but given how slowly the payouts go up (survive 60 slots and it goes up 5k, which isn't much for a lot of online grinders/pros) they're just jockeying for good position, not just ante/blinding out to survive.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
July 16 2011 21:19 GMT
#1576
On July 17 2011 06:14 FawkingGoomba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 06:13 Emporio wrote:
On July 17 2011 06:12 FawkingGoomba wrote:
On July 17 2011 06:10 JWD wrote:
On July 17 2011 06:08 FawkingGoomba wrote:
The rule he's complaining about is that you can't talk about your own hand when it's heads up (1v1)

I don't know that much about poker, but this rule makes no sense to me. What's the rationale? I though it was just part of the game (bluffing etc.) that you can always talk about your hand.

That's the reason everyone is complaining. It's always been a part of the game and is an important strategy for heads up poker. The rationale is essentially that the WSOP tournament admins don't like that aspect of the game and want it out. The mindgames of heads up poker is one of the most exciting parts, it's a shame they cut it out.


What don't they like?

They don't like that you can talk your opponent into making certain moves. Don't understand the rule, it's dumb.


I don't think that was always the rule. I believe it was because of Jamie gold and his " I told you I had top top" line. It really looked like they were colluding. So they changed the rule
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
blowfish
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria238 Posts
July 16 2011 21:19 GMT
#1577
the "trashtalk" in the hands made the sport the spectatorsport it was some years ago. This rule will harm Poker more than it does good - and player who get intimidated or influenced by the talks in a hand should not compete in the highest level anyway...
.Enigma.
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1461 Posts
July 16 2011 21:20 GMT
#1578
Ouch.
"Jupiters c*ck!" - Quintus Lentulus Batiatus
blowfish
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria238 Posts
July 16 2011 21:21 GMT
#1579
what happend?
Cudaflu
Profile Joined July 2010
33 Posts
July 16 2011 21:21 GMT
#1580
What happened on the hand where everyone is talking about the river? I missed it.
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