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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42384 Posts
July 16 2011 20:56 GMT
#1521
On July 17 2011 05:55 Emporio wrote:
Why would you even play if you sell out 100% of winnings?


He said that playing in wsop has been his dream and blablabla. I don't get it either, but thats what they said.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Phenrei
Profile Joined July 2010
United States162 Posts
July 16 2011 20:56 GMT
#1522
On July 17 2011 05:48 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 05:48 n0ise wrote:
haven't followed much, how's are canadian dood doing?


No clue right know. Reporters aren't really following him unless hes against a somewhat known player. At dinner break, we should have more info. The sites won't update him.


I've been watching http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/results.asp?grid=821&tid=11497&dayof=2059 for his name. He's not there yet, so still in (and a couple positions short of the 40k level).
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
July 16 2011 20:57 GMT
#1523
On July 17 2011 05:55 Emporio wrote:
Why would you even play if you sell out 100% of winnings?


The experience? I'd love to play in the Main Event someday if I had $10,000 to throw away.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
July 16 2011 20:57 GMT
#1524
IT'S ALLEN CUNNIGHAM !
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
July 16 2011 20:58 GMT
#1525
Oh wow, arguably the two best known pros remaining in the tournament on the featured table (Cunningham, Kid Poker)...
FMonk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States51 Posts
July 16 2011 20:58 GMT
#1526
On July 17 2011 05:55 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 05:48 Kanil wrote:
On July 17 2011 05:41 archflames wrote:
is kiwikaki out?

The chipcount at their website lists KiWiKaKi with 260,000 chips in 263rd place. Don't know how often this updates, but I'd imagine he's still in it.


It's updating pretty regularly.

They're only updating notable players/featured tables. Kiwi started the day at 260,000 and they haven't updated his chip count at all. But he's not on the list of payouts, so he's still in it, we have no idea about his stack size though.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42384 Posts
July 16 2011 20:58 GMT
#1527
On July 17 2011 05:56 Phenrei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 05:48 Grettin wrote:
On July 17 2011 05:48 n0ise wrote:
haven't followed much, how's are canadian dood doing?


No clue right know. Reporters aren't really following him unless hes against a somewhat known player. At dinner break, we should have more info. The sites won't update him.


I've been watching http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/results.asp?grid=821&tid=11497&dayof=2059 for his name. He's not there yet, so still in (and a couple positions short of the 40k level).


Thats actually good way to check if he still is in the tournament. Forgot all about the result tab. Thanks!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 16 2011 20:59 GMT
#1528
On July 17 2011 05:55 Emporio wrote:
Why would you even play if you sell out 100% of winnings?


Zero risk and just have a weekend of playing poker.

to be honest, theres almost no reason to lol, even selling like 90-95% COULD have a reason but 100% not really unless you just want to play?
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SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 16 2011 20:59 GMT
#1529
How much of poker would you guys say is luck?

The US considers it "gambling", yet someone has won this championship two times, so obviously SKILL is the contributing factor here. But isn't luck of the draw a small part of it as well, similar to Starcraft where you might scout properly yet skill miss something important due to bad luck?

Would you say it's 95% skill 5% luck, or is luck more important?
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 16 2011 21:00 GMT
#1530
On July 17 2011 05:55 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 05:48 Kanil wrote:
On July 17 2011 05:41 archflames wrote:
is kiwikaki out?

The chipcount at their website lists KiWiKaKi with 260,000 chips in 263rd place. Don't know how often this updates, but I'd imagine he's still in it.


It's updating pretty regularly.


The site updates but they aren't updating everyones count. Especially someone like Kiwikaki who they only FINALLY added after 4 fucking full days.

That was his starting chip count, I'll bet you that they just haven't touched his chipcount all day.
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DotADeMoN
Profile Joined June 2010
United States517 Posts
July 16 2011 21:00 GMT
#1531
On July 17 2011 05:59 SafeAsCheese wrote:
How much of poker would you guys say is luck?

The US considers it "gambling", yet someone has won this championship two times, so obviously SKILL is the contributing factor here. But isn't luck of the draw a small part of it as well, similar to Starcraft where you might scout properly yet skill miss something important due to bad luck?

Would you say it's 95% skill 5% luck, or is luck more important?


Long run poker is 99% skill. One tournament is 99% luck.
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
July 16 2011 21:01 GMT
#1532
i dont play poker but luck seems to be like 30% of the game, way more than SC for sure
fuck lag
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 16 2011 21:02 GMT
#1533
On July 17 2011 06:01 ZidaneTribal wrote:
i dont play poker but luck seems to be like 30% of the game, way more than SC for sure


No

On July 17 2011 06:00 FawkingGoomba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 05:59 SafeAsCheese wrote:
How much of poker would you guys say is luck?

The US considers it "gambling", yet someone has won this championship two times, so obviously SKILL is the contributing factor here. But isn't luck of the draw a small part of it as well, similar to Starcraft where you might scout properly yet skill miss something important due to bad luck?

Would you say it's 95% skill 5% luck, or is luck more important?


Long run poker is 99% skill. One tournament is 99% luck.


Yes
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Phenrei
Profile Joined July 2010
United States162 Posts
July 16 2011 21:02 GMT
#1534
On July 17 2011 05:59 SafeAsCheese wrote:
How much of poker would you guys say is luck?

The US considers it "gambling", yet someone has won this championship two times, so obviously SKILL is the contributing factor here. But isn't luck of the draw a small part of it as well, similar to Starcraft where you might scout properly yet skill miss something important due to bad luck?

Would you say it's 95% skill 5% luck, or is luck more important?


I'll repeat Day9's joke about this: "You don't go in for the final attack against your opponent to see they suddenly have a dozen broodlords and all you can say is 'That's Starcraft!' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
July 16 2011 21:03 GMT
#1535
wow, that featured table is pretty packed now. kiwi can be happy that he doesnt have to play there
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
DotADeMoN
Profile Joined June 2010
United States517 Posts
July 16 2011 21:04 GMT
#1536
Sick featured table right now. Daniel ranting about the new rule is entertaining.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42384 Posts
July 16 2011 21:05 GMT
#1537
On July 17 2011 06:04 FawkingGoomba wrote:
Sick featured table right now. Daniel ranting about the new rule is entertaining.


But hes right tho.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
DotADeMoN
Profile Joined June 2010
United States517 Posts
July 16 2011 21:06 GMT
#1538
On July 17 2011 06:05 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 06:04 FawkingGoomba wrote:
Sick featured table right now. Daniel ranting about the new rule is entertaining.


But hes right tho.


Oh definitely, but it's fun to watch him constantly rant to the whole table.
Lorizean
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1330 Posts
July 16 2011 21:06 GMT
#1539
On July 17 2011 05:59 SafeAsCheese wrote:
How much of poker would you guys say is luck?

The US considers it "gambling", yet someone has won this championship two times, so obviously SKILL is the contributing factor here. But isn't luck of the draw a small part of it as well, similar to Starcraft where you might scout properly yet skill miss something important due to bad luck?

Would you say it's 95% skill 5% luck, or is luck more important?

It's a game of statistics, like Mahjong (which I play).
Meaning, as others stated, over a long turn (several thousand games) players with skill will have better stats than players without.
A short-term torunament such as this is mainly luck (reading people, bluffing etc. only gets you so far).
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
July 16 2011 21:07 GMT
#1540
Kiwikaki got himself at least $40.000 now
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