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On July 16 2011 04:50 SiNoCiDe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2011 04:33 Olinim wrote:On July 16 2011 04:25 SiNoCiDe wrote:
A shame that MC and Nada agreed to represent a trashy sponsor such as SK. They lost my respect after what they did to Madfrog.
What exactly did they do to madfrog? Taken off the interview from Gosugamers+ Show Spoiler +
"Fredrik needs more budget than we are willing to pay for one StarCraft 2 player at the moment," explained Muller. "He is a great guy and player and we had a good time to check where he and SK are in terms of StarCraft 2. But for him to do what he wants, probably moving to Korea and all, we would have to invest way more than what we think [an organization] should in StarCraft 2 these days."
"If [MaDFroG] were a top 5 candidate, it would have been a different scenario. I mean no disrespect, but to sum it up, his expectations and ours did not match for 2011," he said. "But it's a dynamic market. Anything can happen."
Muller also mentions that it is not so much about saving money:
- "I feel players have the wrong approach. Right now the casters are the stars, not the players," says Muller
Pretty trashy response for a player who did a lot for SK in WC3 and took best gamer of the year in '04. It's clear that SK are parasites just want to make money and market their brand. They don't give a shit about e-sports or the players that represent them.
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dont SK and oGs have conflicting sponsors?..... as (last i knew) SK had Steelseries as a sponsor, and oGs have Razer
I may be wrong, yet if this is right... wont this cause conflict over who they represent at tournaments, such as what gear they use etc
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On July 16 2011 03:41 Nastiness wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2011 03:34 .Aar wrote:
Wa? SK? Not TL?
I think I've heard of SK precisely once as part of some event in the sidebar, so.. good for them, some sick exposure. You know they have like 10times more fans worldwide then TL right?...
I am an SC2 fan, not a fan of CS/Quake/WoW/what have you. Don't snub me for having no interest in your hobbies.
SK has not had any relevance in the SC2 scene and this move gives them more exposure within that context. Whether they have fans in other games is a nonissue.
edit: whyamisoeasilybaitedtoday
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All I have to say is that its good to see the old west scene supporting what they should, coL picked up a sc2 team (which og members told me they would never have interest in the game around beta) and now a team like SK gaming sponsors NaDa&MC. Good stuff.
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I'd rather oGs players to represent Liquid in foreign tourneys...
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Never liked SK, it's just a CS clan..nothing special in other games. It's like their last breath trying not to be forgotten
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On July 15 2011 18:55 Animostas wrote:
Really kind of weird in my opinion, I don't really see why MC and Nada can't just play as oGs members.
I don't know if SK Gaming is really renowned as a Starcraft II team so it just feels kind of off to have two of the best players in the world representing them all of a sudden.
I agree but if I had to guess the underlying reason for it Id guess that it would have to do with SK paying for the travel and living expenses.
As I think about this more and more it really doesn't sit well with me that MC and Nada are going to rep different teams when not in the Korea.
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I wish they would start their own team how does this help the foreign scene?
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my favourite player finally going to foreign events. oh and obama toss is nice too.
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Oh wow this is great. MC and Nada will more easily be able to travel around the world to compete, and we will actually get to see Nada in foreign events... though MC already didn't seem to have much trouble getting in foreign events. Looking forward to it!
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On July 16 2011 05:15 soul5 wrote:
I wish they would start their own team how does this help the foreign scene?
It isn't SK's responsibility to help the foreign scene.
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this is all kind of confusing to me, as I don't understand why they cant be oGs... or why didn't they just represent themselves as Team Liquid? This is all kind of odd haha. But I guess its gona help e-sports XD
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I wonder what the exact details are. Is SK purely paying for travel or are they giving some sort of salary on top of that as well? In addition, what % cut will SK be taking on tournament winnings? I'm guessing its just purely travel since they're still oGs players. Interesting move.
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SK is trying to set up their player/team standard by 'renting' MC and Nada. Basically they cant find a decent fresh player now but their goal is to create a all stars level team. This is only their first move but it's already kind of big shock in the SC2 community. Waiting to see their further actions.
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On July 16 2011 05:24 Longshank wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2011 05:15 soul5 wrote:
I wish they would start their own team how does this help the foreign scene? It isn't SK's responsibility to help the foreign scene.
Ofcourse it isnt, but it would be nice!
I dont really care all that much about Foreigners vs Koreans, I just want good games to be played pretty much. BUT, what I do have a problem with is SK as an organisation. They have a terrible reputation for not paying players for instance.
I also have a few personal incidents where some SK people have acted pretty douchily but most of all, their fans are the scum of the E-sports scene! That is not anything against SK, I´ve just got a problem with MC and NaDa representing a team that I directly associate with douchebag 12 year olds hehe.
But best of luck, I hope SK can get me on their side!
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On July 16 2011 04:58 Shuray wrote:
I'd rather oGs players to represent Liquid in foreign tourneys...
I'd rather that too, and I'm sure TL was considered considering their relationship, but something didn't work out.
Perhaps the issue was that TL doesn't have the connections SK have in terms of sponsors.
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On July 16 2011 05:04 ReboundEU wrote:
Never liked SK, it's just a CS clan..nothing special in other games. It's like their last breath trying not to be forgotten
SK has been at the top of the CS scene and were the first to have professional, salaried players.
They have been very well represented in quake with Toxic/Toxjq then rapha.
Their WC3 squads were all excellent.
their FIFA twins pretty much won every WCG/EPS they did.
I hate WoW as an esport but their SK.EU squad was always good, same as their SK.us
And pretty much every other game SK has had their hand in they had quite an impact.
SK is/was the best team outside of the korean BW teams, it's a shame bds left because they have gone a bit downhill since then but you can't hate on them when they are a big reason esports has kept getting bigger. How many other teams can attract sponsors out of the industry like Nike, Adidas, they even had SK mastercards at some point.
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I think that SK gaming is hyping this deal way more in their favour than it was negotiated (ie trying to leech off). This is more of a sponsoring contract for two players with the obligation to wear shirts of their sponsors than anything else. How SK gaming can come up with saying MC and Nada are part of their roster, is beyond being honest, more like being shady. But SK Gaming has a history of be ruthless and shady.
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Nada wearing a SK uniform what a baws
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doesnt even really make sense
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