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MLG Anaheim Group-Winner Poll

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galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
July 11 2011 21:13 GMT
#1
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MLG Anaheim will be happening from July 29th to July 31st.
Liquipedia article here
Event Details page here


Lets hype this UP TL :D MLG ANAHEIM
Will the Koreans take the win, or will Foreigners fight for the win on Southern California soil? Vote!

Poll: Group A

MVPDongRaeGu (Z) (526)
 
47%

LiquidHuk (P) (405)
 
36%

DignitasNaniwa (P) (145)
 
13%

LiquidHayprO (Z) (17)
 
2%

LiquidTLO (T) (17)
 
2%

1110 total votes

Your vote: Group A

(Vote): DignitasNaniwa (P)
(Vote): LiquidHayprO (Z)
(Vote): LiquidTLO (T)
(Vote): LiquidHuk (P)
(Vote): MVPDongRaeGu (Z)



Poll: Group B

IdrA (Z) (620)
 
58%

SlayerSBoxer (T) (311)
 
29%

FXOSheth (Z) (89)
 
8%

SjoW (T) (34)
 
3%

EGiNcontroL (P) (24)
 
2%

1078 total votes

Your vote: Group B

(Vote): IdrA (Z)
(Vote): EGiNcontroL (P)
(Vote): SjoW (T)
(Vote): FXOSheth (Z)
(Vote): SlayerSBoxer (T)



Poll: Group C

SlayerSMMA (T) (826)
 
81%

LiquidRet (Z) (99)
 
10%

Socke (P) (55)
 
5%

Slush (Z) (25)
 
2%

ROOT-drewbie (T) (19)
 
2%

1024 total votes

Your vote: Group C

(Vote): Slush (Z)
(Vote): LiquidRet (Z)
(Vote): Socke (P)
(Vote): ROOT-drewbie (T)
(Vote): SlayerSMMA (T)



Poll: Group D

IM.MVP (T) (789)
 
78%

KiWiKaKi (P) (103)
 
10%

d.SeleCT (T) (94)
 
9%

EG-Machine (Z) (15)
 
1%

FXOmOoNan (Z) (6)
 
1%

1007 total votes

Your vote: Group D

(Vote): KiWiKaKi (P)
(Vote): d.SeleCT (T)
(Vote): FXOmOoNan (Z)
(Vote): EG-Machine (Z)
(Vote): IM.MVP (T)



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galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
July 11 2011 21:14 GMT
#2
Send me improvements/links and I will edit the main post. Thanks TL ^.^
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Pinna
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland152 Posts
July 11 2011 21:15 GMT
#3
imo MMA and MVP got super easy pools..
School..
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
July 11 2011 21:16 GMT
#4
Poor BoxeR.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
July 11 2011 21:16 GMT
#5
On July 12 2011 06:15 Pinna wrote:
imo MMA and MVP got super easy pools..


Sjow's actually pretty good, although zvt is supposedly Idra's best Matchup.
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SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 11 2011 21:17 GMT
#6
I think Huk can compete with DRGs ZvP

JiPrime
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada688 Posts
July 11 2011 21:17 GMT
#7
Come on... BoxeR!
aDd3z
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany885 Posts
July 11 2011 21:17 GMT
#8
On July 12 2011 06:15 Pinna wrote:
imo MMA and MVP got super easy pools..

Select and Kiwi were top 3 at mlg dallas.....wont call them super easy
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
July 11 2011 21:17 GMT
#9
great poll.

i cant vote against boxer though :D
Pinna
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland152 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 21:19:49
July 11 2011 21:18 GMT
#10
On July 12 2011 06:16 KimJongChill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:15 Pinna wrote:
imo MMA and MVP got super easy pools..


Sjow's actually pretty good, although zvt is supposedly Idra's best Matchup.

Quoted the wrong dude there?

Idra got a nice pool for him, only one protoss!


On July 12 2011 06:17 aDd3z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:15 Pinna wrote:
imo MMA and MVP got super easy pools..

Select and Kiwi were top 3 at mlg dallas.....wont call them super easy

Well atleast MMA got a super easy pool.
School..
MyLastSerenade
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany710 Posts
July 11 2011 21:19 GMT
#11
TLO should give away his slot to an active player imo

if DRG´s ZvP is as good as his ZvT is, he will win the group stage, but maybe HuK and Nani can beat him.
speedphlux
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria962 Posts
July 11 2011 21:19 GMT
#12
Huk / Boxer / Slush / MVP
Those are my favorite for the groups, but I expect some OB players to show and wreck face in day 2.
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Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
July 11 2011 21:21 GMT
#13
On July 12 2011 06:16 WArped wrote:
Poor BoxeR.


Poor Boxer is gonna take first in his group, which is one of the easier ones. Only player I see taking multiple games off him is Idra but even then, no one cheeses like Boxer and no one tilts harder than Idra. Boxer also took down Idra 2-0 at the end of the NASL, one game of cheese and one game of standard play.

Boxer as 1, Idra as 2 in Pool B.
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galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 21:32:40
July 11 2011 21:21 GMT
#14
Should I set up a poll for Open Bracket Players people want to see do well?

ex. people like Thorzain, non-seeded koreans, etc?

Edit:apparently Thorzain isn't appearing at this MLG (I didn't know, I'm sure everyone else does )
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fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
July 11 2011 21:21 GMT
#15
On July 12 2011 06:17 aDd3z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:15 Pinna wrote:
imo MMA and MVP got super easy pools..

Select and Kiwi were top 3 at mlg dallas.....wont call them super easy


And didn't they go like 0-5, 1-4 in Columbus? You know, where the competition was harder.
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 21:24:19
July 11 2011 21:22 GMT
#16
DRG has amazing ZvT, but only an Avg ZvP. Huk is on fire, and has proven that he can beat the best of the best. Plus his PvZ is his best Match up.

Boxer will also pass. His TvZ is some of the best, and has a strong Standard TvT. As for his TvP, that could use alot of work, but Incontrol is not that good. Not to mention that Idra crumbles to the Multitask style of Boxer and MMA.

MMA the only competent player in his pool is Ret, but MMA makes TvZ look imba. And Ret vs. Puma says it all

MVP has a very easy Bracket.
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Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
July 11 2011 21:22 GMT
#17
On July 12 2011 06:21 galtdunn wrote:
Should I set up a poll for Open Bracket Players people want to see do well?

ex. Thorzain, non-seeded koreans, etc?


Have they release the open bracket players yet?
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
July 11 2011 21:24 GMT
#18
I'd be highly surprised if MVP and MMA don't finish first in their respective groups. Only an open bracket player might pose a threat to them. Dongraegu is a beast, but he is stuck in a group with the two best non-Korean protoss players and a zerg, so he will have to fight for first place. And finally group B lucked out with getting Boxer Nevertheless, he also has a chance of taking first place, even though it's slim.
galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
July 11 2011 21:25 GMT
#19
On July 12 2011 06:22 Charger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:21 galtdunn wrote:
Should I set up a poll for Open Bracket Players people want to see do well?

ex. Thorzain, non-seeded koreans, etc?


Have they release the open bracket players yet?


Good question. I don't think so actually
But when they do...? lol.
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ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
July 11 2011 21:26 GMT
#20
Pool A is stacked, everything else is one obvious winner and all his prey lol
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LittleJohn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden204 Posts
July 11 2011 21:27 GMT
#21
nani huk and dong in the same group, wow :o
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 21:43:27
July 11 2011 21:29 GMT
#22
On July 12 2011 06:21 galtdunn wrote:
Should I set up a poll for Open Bracket Players people want to see do well?

ex. Thorzain, non-seeded koreans, etc?


Well we know thorzain won't be participating in this MLG.

EDIT; I expect Alicia, choya and ganzi to place in 3/4 open bracket seeds although going undefeated seems like a tall order....
bluestuff
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada893 Posts
July 11 2011 21:30 GMT
#23
MVP has a walk in the park in group D, and group A with Nani, Huk and DRG looks to be the most brutal this time around
FunnelC4kes
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland462 Posts
July 11 2011 21:34 GMT
#24
I feel like MMA shouldn't be seeded in with the default "Korean seeds," but should instead be given points based off of his win in Columbus.

Anyone else think so?
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galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
July 11 2011 21:37 GMT
#25
On July 12 2011 06:34 FunnelC4kes wrote:
I feel like MMA shouldn't be seeded in with the default "Korean seeds," but should instead be given points based off of his win in Columbus.

Anyone else think so?


I'd agree with this, but if he only had his points from Columbus, he'd be in the open bracket (cause he didnt compete in Dallas).
Also there was probably not a guaruntee he was coming back anyways, so giving him points might have been pointless.
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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
July 11 2011 21:37 GMT
#26
DRG is going to become the leader of the Liquid genocide...
FunnelC4kes
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland462 Posts
July 11 2011 21:38 GMT
#27
On July 12 2011 06:29 forgottendreams wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:21 galtdunn wrote:
Should I set up a poll for Open Bracket Players people want to see do well?

ex. Thorzain, non-seeded koreans, etc?


Well we know thorzain won't be participating in this MLG.

I expect Alicia to place top seed in the open bracket, choya second, meaning group A is going to be just insanely intense.


The seeds from the open bracket is based on on where the player was seeded in the open bracket. Once 4 players in the open bracket are left "alive" the play stops, and resumes with groups.

You could say that there is four separate open brackets, tournament A, B, C, and D, and the winner of those go to the respective groups. Make sense?

In other words, top 4 are not given seeds in groups based on rank, but are assigned groups based on where in the open bracket they ended up once play stops.
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Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
July 11 2011 21:38 GMT
#28
Boxer auto vote. He went 8-1 in NASL, he is much better than people give him credit for. Hopefully, one of these code B guys get the code S spot and I'm pretty sure it will happen. Even if Immvp wins, the next best will get a code S as long as in top 3. So MMA or DRG actually have a very easy ride into code S compared to nearly everyone but tbh, they deserve it.

As for the Koreans in open bracket, they must think it's a laff. Code A qualifiers sound so monstrous as everyone there is amazing. In fact, I would say that these code A qualifiers are harder than going 4-1 in group B, C and D. Seeing as Ganzi and Alicia have all gone through the code A qualifiers before, I would expect them to make it out of the open bracket as long as they don't meet each other. Upon seeing naniwa 4 gate every game, huk using joke builds and July beating all his opponents 2-0 in less than an hours play, I doubt this bracket is gonna feel competitive at all.

Imagine having to win against Squirtle, puma, Ganzi, hero, leenock... In one sitting, compared to maybe facing Tyler or Catz in a later round. Not comparable
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
July 11 2011 21:39 GMT
#29
DRG and naniwa will be the top two in group A.
Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
July 11 2011 21:40 GMT
#30
Go DongRaeGu, IdrA, Ret, Machine..

and SHETH!!!!
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FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
July 11 2011 21:40 GMT
#31
On July 12 2011 06:37 galtdunn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:34 FunnelC4kes wrote:
I feel like MMA shouldn't be seeded in with the default "Korean seeds," but should instead be given points based off of his win in Columbus.

Anyone else think so?


I'd agree with this, but if he only had his points from Columbus, he'd be in the open bracket (cause he didnt compete in Dallas).
Also there was probably not a guaruntee he was coming back anyways, so giving him points might have been pointless.

If he would been seeded with points he would have had to pay for his flight and everything else
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corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
July 11 2011 21:40 GMT
#32
On July 12 2011 06:39 Serpico wrote:
DRG and naniwa will be the top two in group A.


i agree.
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CursedFeanor
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada539 Posts
July 11 2011 21:41 GMT
#33
The korean invasion of MLG will become out of control after this one... This will be fun to watch nonetheless!
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
July 11 2011 21:41 GMT
#34
Ouch group a is just even more insane, i still believe in you haypro!!!
Atleast MLG uses double elim.
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forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
July 11 2011 21:41 GMT
#35
On July 12 2011 06:38 FunnelC4kes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:29 forgottendreams wrote:
On July 12 2011 06:21 galtdunn wrote:
Should I set up a poll for Open Bracket Players people want to see do well?

ex. Thorzain, non-seeded koreans, etc?


Well we know thorzain won't be participating in this MLG.

I expect Alicia to place top seed in the open bracket, choya second, meaning group A is going to be just insanely intense.


The seeds from the open bracket is based on on where the player was seeded in the open bracket. Once 4 players in the open bracket are left "alive" the play stops, and resumes with groups.

You could say that there is four separate open brackets, tournament A, B, C, and D, and the winner of those go to the respective groups. Make sense?

In other words, top 4 are not given seeds in groups based on rank, but are assigned groups based on where in the open bracket they ended up once play stops.


Yeah makes sense, never really followed how the open brackets worked in previous MLG's.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
July 11 2011 21:43 GMT
#36
On July 12 2011 06:17 aDd3z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:15 Pinna wrote:
imo MMA and MVP got super easy pools..

Select and Kiwi were top 3 at mlg dallas.....wont call them super easy


Mlg dallas didn't have the talent pool that this one has. Compared to mma and mvp? Select and kiwi are childs play.
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GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
July 11 2011 21:50 GMT
#37
Koreans will own white dudes.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 11 2011 21:52 GMT
#38
Dat group A. Screw the rest, I just wanna see every game from that group.
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 11 2011 21:52 GMT
#39
HuK, Idra, then went for an upset in Slush, then MVP. I think HuK can beat DRG in the right circumstances and that Idra is better than Boxer. It's a longshot, but Slush did so well at Columbus, I really think he will gain. And MVP... Well MVPs gonna crush that shit riiiight up.
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Tonttu
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland606 Posts
July 11 2011 21:54 GMT
#40
What if open bracket guy wins?
But yeah.. Every Korean seed is pretty tough.. well maybe Group B, but I hope for Boxer!
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Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
July 11 2011 21:54 GMT
#41
Huk(ok NRG is prob gonna take it, but cant vote against huk ), boxer, mma mvp. sadly think next mlg will bring the op qq back to the terran.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
July 11 2011 21:54 GMT
#42
It's group A vs group D and group B vs group C right? We might see father vs son...
Bladgrim
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada179 Posts
July 11 2011 21:56 GMT
#43
On July 12 2011 06:37 galtdunn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:34 FunnelC4kes wrote:
I feel like MMA shouldn't be seeded in with the default "Korean seeds," but should instead be given points based off of his win in Columbus.

Anyone else think so?


I'd agree with this, but if he only had his points from Columbus, he'd be in the open bracket (cause he didnt compete in Dallas).
Also there was probably not a guaruntee he was coming back anyways, so giving him points might have been pointless.


You are wrong here, actually. Think about HuK, at least.

HuK competed in Dallas, and he placed 10th. He didn't go to Columbus. He still can come to Anaheim, ranked 21st in points.

MMA did not compete in Dallas, but he placed first in Columbus. Unless the MLG point system is completely messed up (it's not), MMA would be ahead of HuK. He would easily get a seed.

Anyways, MMA was the 3rd highest seed, behind Naniwa and Idra.

See here for reference: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings
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FunnelC4kes
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland462 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 22:05:59
July 11 2011 21:57 GMT
#44
On July 12 2011 06:37 galtdunn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:34 FunnelC4kes wrote:
I feel like MMA shouldn't be seeded in with the default "Korean seeds," but should instead be given points based off of his win in Columbus.

Anyone else think so?


I'd agree with this, but if he only had his points from Columbus, he'd be in the open bracket (cause he didnt compete in Dallas).
Also there was probably not a guaruntee he was coming back anyways, so giving him points might have been pointless.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=231051
Also Liquipedia has the same rankings here:http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings

According to this post by Xerix, MMA is #3 seed, which would change the groups thus:

Group A:
Naniwa
EGiNcontrol
Liquid'Haypro
Sheth

Group B:
Idra1
Liquid'Ret
Liquid'TLO
Drewbie

Group C:
MMA
SeleCt
SjoW
Machine

Group D:
Slush450
Kiwikaki
Socke
FXOmoonan

Even though MMA would still be in the same group, it would shift the brackets a bit. Most noticeably Liquid team-kill and bumping HuK out of Group play, he'd have to crawl through the open bracket

As far as the other Korean-dedicated slot, they could seed another Korean into Group A, instead of forcing them to qualify through the opens.

This is based off of Xeris' information being spot-on, which there was no official word from MLG what the exact seed points are going into MLG Anaheim.

Edit: Added Liquipedia link, thanks to Bladgrim for finding that one!

On July 12 2011 06:40 FinnGamer wrote:
If he would been seeded with points he would have had to pay for his flight and everything else


I'm not sure about that. I lean towards disagreeing with you, but that's just based on instinct. They could invite him, yet still give him a seed. I don't see any reason that would not be an option.
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beat farm
Profile Joined October 2010
United States478 Posts
July 11 2011 22:02 GMT
#45
wtf group A is so stacked. best korean and the 2 best foreigners participating in mlg with huk and naniwa. TLO aint bad either.
Nighthawks28
Profile Joined June 2011
United States232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 22:13:00
July 11 2011 22:02 GMT
#46
MMA is not considered the #3 seed b/c he is attending as a GSL invite. If he took the #3 seed, then he would have to pay for his flight/hotel. MLG only pays for invites (invites are considered the last 4 seeds in pool play). If MMA didn't get an invite, he might not even show up to the tournament (like MC and Losira declined, even though they could have been in the pool). MLG gave MMA the invite b/c the winner deserves to defend his title.

Also note that the pools are permanent. If for some reason MC, Losira, Thorzain, etc... change their minds and attend MLG Anaheim, they will not be given their spot in the pool. They would have to play in the open bracket.
svefnleysi
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland623 Posts
July 11 2011 22:04 GMT
#47
On July 12 2011 06:21 Charger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:16 WArped wrote:
Poor BoxeR.


Poor Boxer is gonna take first in his group, which is one of the easier ones. Only player I see taking multiple games off him is Idra but even then, no one cheeses like Boxer and no one tilts harder than Idra. Boxer also took down Idra 2-0 at the end of the NASL, one game of cheese and one game of standard play.

Boxer as 1, Idra as 2 in Pool B.

I agree.

Also noteworthy, is that in the NASL, Boxer defeated Idra while playing from Korea. I'd be surprised to see Idra take a game off Boxer without a latency advantage.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
July 11 2011 22:06 GMT
#48
I don't see DRG just rolling over Huk and Naniwa in group A.
UniversalMind
Profile Joined March 2011
United States326 Posts
July 11 2011 22:09 GMT
#49
eh from the looks of it Koreans will pretty much be top 5 I see MVP MMA and Dong taking top 3 easily. Huk will prob place fourth and he is Korean I would say IdrA would take 5th but boxer will prob abuse IdrAs play style hmm yeah def a Korean top 5
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
July 11 2011 22:14 GMT
#50
THE DONG coming to the States! Watch out Group A!

Like others, I foresee another Korean top 3. If HuK or NaNiwa goes on a tear, they might be able to pull it off, but I doubt it.

Regardless, I'm excited as hell for DRG to come play.
galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
July 11 2011 22:16 GMT
#51
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 12 2011 06:57 FunnelC4kes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:37 galtdunn wrote:
On July 12 2011 06:34 FunnelC4kes wrote:
I feel like MMA shouldn't be seeded in with the default "Korean seeds," but should instead be given points based off of his win in Columbus.

Anyone else think so?


I'd agree with this, but if he only had his points from Columbus, he'd be in the open bracket (cause he didnt compete in Dallas).
Also there was probably not a guaruntee he was coming back anyways, so giving him points might have been pointless.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=231051
Also Liquipedia has the same rankings here:http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings

According to this post by Xerix, MMA is #3 seed, which would change the groups thus:

Group A:
Naniwa
EGiNcontrol
Liquid'Haypro
Sheth

Group B:
Idra1
Liquid'Ret
Liquid'TLO
Drewbie

Group C:
MMA
SeleCt
SjoW
Machine

Group D:
Slush450
Kiwikaki
Socke
FXOmoonan

Even though MMA would still be in the same group, it would shift the brackets a bit. Most noticeably Liquid team-kill and bumping HuK out of Group play, he'd have to crawl through the open bracket

As far as the other Korean-dedicated slot, they could seed another Korean into Group A, instead of forcing them to qualify through the opens.

This is based off of Xeris' information being spot-on, which there was no official word from MLG what the exact seed points are going into MLG Anaheim.

Edit: Added Liquipedia link, thanks to Bladgrim for finding that one!

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On July 12 2011 06:40 FinnGamer wrote:
If he would been seeded with points he would have had to pay for his flight and everything else


I'm not sure about that. I lean towards disagreeing with you, but that's just based on instinct. They could invite him, yet still give him a seed. I don't see any reason that would not be an option.


Well I'm no MLG expert on points But I got the pools from here.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 11 2011 22:16 GMT
#52
On July 12 2011 06:56 Bladgrim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:37 galtdunn wrote:
On July 12 2011 06:34 FunnelC4kes wrote:
I feel like MMA shouldn't be seeded in with the default "Korean seeds," but should instead be given points based off of his win in Columbus.

Anyone else think so?


I'd agree with this, but if he only had his points from Columbus, he'd be in the open bracket (cause he didnt compete in Dallas).
Also there was probably not a guaruntee he was coming back anyways, so giving him points might have been pointless.


You are wrong here, actually. Think about HuK, at least.

HuK competed in Dallas, and he placed 10th. He didn't go to Columbus. He still can come to Anaheim, ranked 21st in points.

MMA did not compete in Dallas, but he placed first in Columbus. Unless the MLG point system is completely messed up (it's not), MMA would be ahead of HuK. He would easily get a seed.

Anyways, MMA was the 3rd highest seed, behind Naniwa and Idra.

See here for reference: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings


Totally agree with this. Complete waste of points, such a pity... -.-
If he had used his points, Alicia or Ganzi could be in the pool play
FunnelC4kes
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland462 Posts
July 11 2011 22:18 GMT
#53
On July 12 2011 07:16 galtdunn wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 12 2011 06:57 FunnelC4kes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:37 galtdunn wrote:
On July 12 2011 06:34 FunnelC4kes wrote:
I feel like MMA shouldn't be seeded in with the default "Korean seeds," but should instead be given points based off of his win in Columbus.

Anyone else think so?


I'd agree with this, but if he only had his points from Columbus, he'd be in the open bracket (cause he didnt compete in Dallas).
Also there was probably not a guaruntee he was coming back anyways, so giving him points might have been pointless.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=231051
Also Liquipedia has the same rankings here:http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings

According to this post by Xerix, MMA is #3 seed, which would change the groups thus:

Group A:
Naniwa
EGiNcontrol
Liquid'Haypro
Sheth

Group B:
Idra1
Liquid'Ret
Liquid'TLO
Drewbie

Group C:
MMA
SeleCt
SjoW
Machine

Group D:
Slush450
Kiwikaki
Socke
FXOmoonan

Even though MMA would still be in the same group, it would shift the brackets a bit. Most noticeably Liquid team-kill and bumping HuK out of Group play, he'd have to crawl through the open bracket

As far as the other Korean-dedicated slot, they could seed another Korean into Group A, instead of forcing them to qualify through the opens.

This is based off of Xeris' information being spot-on, which there was no official word from MLG what the exact seed points are going into MLG Anaheim.

Edit: Added Liquipedia link, thanks to Bladgrim for finding that one!

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On July 12 2011 06:40 FinnGamer wrote:
If he would been seeded with points he would have had to pay for his flight and everything else


I'm not sure about that. I lean towards disagreeing with you, but that's just based on instinct. They could invite him, yet still give him a seed. I don't see any reason that would not be an option.


Well I'm no MLG expert on points But I got the pools from here.


Yeah, I know--I was just wondering why it was they didn't give him the #3 seed.

Other people think it's because MLG wouldn't have sponsored his trip otherwise... I'll ask in other threads, as well. Cheers
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 11 2011 22:18 GMT
#54
On July 12 2011 06:40 FinnGamer wrote:
If he would been seeded with points he would have had to pay for his flight and everything else


Not really, two Slayers player get their trip paid from their sponsors.
MMA could be one of them, and then either Alicia or Ganzi could be seeded.
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
July 11 2011 22:19 GMT
#55
On July 12 2011 06:54 Tonttu wrote:
What if open bracket guy wins?
But yeah.. Every Korean seed is pretty tough.. well maybe Group B, but I hope for Boxer!

you cant predict on open bracket guy since you dont know who that is, what it is now is just trying to predict using the known factors
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 11 2011 22:26 GMT
#56
Pool A is so stacked. You wouldn't believe Naniwa was the number 1 seed by looking at it. I went for the Sheth in his group and the Koreans in the others. But I sort of regret choosing Sheth because Boxer will probably proxy rax him and win.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13955 Posts
July 11 2011 22:26 GMT
#57
Pool A be the group of death
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Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
July 11 2011 22:28 GMT
#58
I picked SeleCT in group D. hes ma boy. Can't go wrong with that pick. Even though MVP is great.. SeleCT's got this!! Can't wait to see this event though. Its gonna be so fucking epic that people will die from adrenaline rushes. Oh yes.. it will happen
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FireFish
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark228 Posts
July 11 2011 22:30 GMT
#59
Wow group a looks so hard. I think DRG will take it and HuK second
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
July 11 2011 22:31 GMT
#60
Group A is deffo the group of death but to be quite honest others don't trail behind by much.
A good balance of powers i would say.
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Elvedeta
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal395 Posts
July 11 2011 22:31 GMT
#61
I think that DRG group is the hardest for the 4 koreans attending, he has to go against huk(his PvZ his best matchup) and Naniwa(PvZ is not his best matchup but he should still be a tough opponent) and DRG ZvP his not as good as his ZvT.... the other 3 koreans have easier groups, Boxer only challenge will be idrA.
Ofc we still don't know who will go through the open bracket, but for sure 2 or 3 koreans will get past it.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 11 2011 22:33 GMT
#62
Huk/Idra/MMA/MVP

I only see DRG losing to Huk and Boxer losing to Idra.
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iYiYi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States489 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 22:36:58
July 11 2011 22:36 GMT
#63
Throw a Korean in a group and it looks so one sided. MMA will dominate his group now questions asked. Despite group A being the "group of death", I can confidently say it will be DRG and then HuK coming out on top. Group B is the biggest toss up IMO. Boxer is actually much stronger then most people realize. His current ZvT form is very good, I think he can take out IdrA and Sheth and place first in it. No comment on the MVP group, just lol.
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Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
July 11 2011 22:37 GMT
#64
i have a feeling this by far will be the best sc2 tournament.
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Profile Joined June 2011
United States149 Posts
July 11 2011 22:38 GMT
#65
I look at the groups and I think to myself, how the heck is idra going to do this???
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FunnelC4kes
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland462 Posts
July 11 2011 22:39 GMT
#66
On July 12 2011 07:33 MLG-Kyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 07:30 Nighthawks28 wrote:
On July 12 2011 07:28 FunnelC4kes wrote:
On July 12 2011 07:12 MLG-Kyle wrote:
The other incredible thing is that the top-seeded player to come out of the Open Bracket is the guy who gets placed into Pool A. It's likely that, heading into Anaheim, Tyler will be the top-seeded Open Bracket player. If he can make an undefeated run through the Open, he'll be placed into the same pool as DongRaeGu and his other teammates.

Just thought I'd stack a little bit more hype on here. You can think the MLG Commissioner Anakin for pointing that one out.

Full Open Bracket Roster should be released shortly. We're just waiting on confirmation from a few final players. There are several big names that no one is talking about who will be attending and playing through the Open Bracket.


Hey Kyle,

If Liquipedia is right http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings then MMA would actually be the #3 seed, right?

Is there any particular reason why he was given a generic "invite" seed as opposed to the #3 seed that he earned from MLG Columbus?

I am just wondering what the official word is, as that would otherwise change the groups quite a bit.

cheers!


I already answered you in the other thread.
MMA is not considered the #3 seed b/c he is attending as a GSL invite. If he took the #3 seed, then he would have to pay for his flight/hotel. MLG only pays for invites (invites are considered the last 4 seeds in pool play). If MMA didn't get an invite, he might not even show up to the tournament (like MC and Losira declined, even though they could have been in the pool). MLG gave MMA the invite b/c the winner deserves to defend his title.

Also note that the pools are permanent. If for some reason MC, Losira, Thorzain, etc... change their minds and attend MLG Anaheim, they will not be given their spot in the pool. They would have to play in the open bracket.


This is correct.


This.
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Syben
Profile Joined October 2010
United States512 Posts
July 11 2011 22:40 GMT
#67
God Pool A is ugly looking
Definitely gonna switch to G, the only race I havent played yet. - TLO
Samp
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada783 Posts
July 11 2011 22:44 GMT
#68
slush wins his group, u heard it here first!
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00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
July 11 2011 22:44 GMT
#69
Wow, Pool A is ridiculous. Poor TLO and Haypro.
Idra got very lucky.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
July 11 2011 22:45 GMT
#70
drewbie obv
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 22:49:03
July 11 2011 22:46 GMT
#71
I think Huk and Naniwa just died a little inside, I know they would've took all of the Terrans before DRG.

Also nani is #1 seed right? Why would #1 seed from open bracket go there?
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cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
July 11 2011 22:46 GMT
#72
OMG I want to see IMMVP versus dSelect!
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-FoX
Profile Joined November 2010
United States479 Posts
July 11 2011 22:47 GMT
#73
On July 12 2011 07:45 coL.drewbie wrote:
drewbie obv


Drewbie too strong. Who would've voted for anyone else?
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 22:48:55
July 11 2011 22:47 GMT
#74
Hm... maybe voting for Idra was wrong and I should've voted for Sjow instead.
Looking forward to see what he has become, after training in the team house and being hyped by the korean coaches.

edit:

On July 12 2011 07:47 -FoX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 07:45 coL.drewbie wrote:
drewbie obv


Drewbie too strong. Who would've voted for anyone else?


What are your favourite players? What is your favourite team?

(shit double post, but I couldn't resist...)
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 22:49:26
July 11 2011 22:48 GMT
#75
(shit, double post, fingers were faster than the brain, sry... <.<)
Xingke
Profile Joined August 2005
United States78 Posts
July 11 2011 22:50 GMT
#76
I would love for Naniwa to win and will be rooting for him but I think DongRaeGu will end up first in the pool.

As for the other pools, predicting Idra, MMA, MVP. Will be hoping for Boxer to prove me wrong though.
FunnelC4kes
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland462 Posts
July 11 2011 22:54 GMT
#77
On July 12 2011 07:46 sjschmidt93 wrote:
I think Huk and Naniwa just died a little inside, I know they would've took all of the Terrans before DRG.

Also nani is #1 seed right? Why would #1 seed from open bracket go there?


B/C it's not necessarily the #1 ranked seed, just the seed from section A of the open bracket. Bracket play stops at the semi-finals, so to speak, and resumes in group play.
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leungwk01
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1260 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 23:00:13
July 11 2011 22:56 GMT
#78
Mc not here which means idra will do well.

I had a feeling dong was coming when they were discussing it on sotg.

Going to go for
Dong, naniwa
Boxer, idra
Mma, player coming from open
MVP, Select
JouriCarver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom59 Posts
July 11 2011 22:59 GMT
#79
odds on mc comming through open brackens and beating idra in finals?
-FoX
Profile Joined November 2010
United States479 Posts
July 11 2011 22:59 GMT
#80
On July 12 2011 07:47 JustPassingBy wrote:
Hm... maybe voting for Idra was wrong and I should've voted for Sjow instead.
Looking forward to see what he has become, after training in the team house and being hyped by the korean coaches.

edit:

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 07:47 -FoX wrote:
On July 12 2011 07:45 coL.drewbie wrote:
drewbie obv


Drewbie too strong. Who would've voted for anyone else?


What are your favourite players? What is your favourite team?

(shit double post, but I couldn't resist...)


It wasn't meant to be a super serious post. I was only saying that because Drewbie said he voted for himself (:
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Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 00:45:37
July 11 2011 23:03 GMT
#81
drg, sheth, ret, mvp
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
July 11 2011 23:04 GMT
#82
so excited for DRG ^_^

wonder if we'll get to see the hamster (or whatever animal he was impersonating) dance @ the event
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Profile Joined October 2010
Canada331 Posts
July 11 2011 23:05 GMT
#83
Shit just got real
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
July 11 2011 23:07 GMT
#84
All will be revealed with the open bracket winners, I think. Depending on how they get seeded, I feel like pools B-D could easily be won by someone from the open brackets like Alicia or Strelok.
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Profile Joined May 2011
United States679 Posts
July 11 2011 23:10 GMT
#85
HuK, Boxer, MMA, MVP. Ez choices.
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HEROwithNOlegacy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States850 Posts
July 11 2011 23:11 GMT
#86
Three liquids in the same group damn, looking forward to seeing iNcontroL vs IdrA.
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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
July 11 2011 23:11 GMT
#87
Boxer autovote of course
ravenKRaz
Profile Joined March 2011
United States580 Posts
July 11 2011 23:15 GMT
#88
DRG, idra, mma and mvp

Excited to see DRG's play, dude's a beast
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CameronJ
Profile Joined June 2011
United States57 Posts
July 11 2011 23:20 GMT
#89
Why Idra > Boxer?

Pretty sure Boxer is an overall better player o.o
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
July 11 2011 23:25 GMT
#90
Does anyone know if they are still going to seed players from the same pools into the exact same branch of the championship bracket like last time?

My memory might be making it up, but I seem to remember being confused last time about players from the same group ending up in the same branch of the bracket.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 23:38:53
July 11 2011 23:38 GMT
#91
On July 12 2011 07:54 FunnelC4kes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 07:46 sjschmidt93 wrote:
I think Huk and Naniwa just died a little inside, I know they would've took all of the Terrans before DRG.

Also nani is #1 seed right? Why would #1 seed from open bracket go there?


B/C it's not necessarily the #1 ranked seed, just the seed from section A of the open bracket. Bracket play stops at the semi-finals, so to speak, and resumes in group play.

Also because he got the 4th seeded Korean while group D got the highest seeded Korean. It's just the pattern the seeds follow

edit:
votes:
Huk, Boxer, MMA, MVP
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starcraft2rush
Profile Joined February 2011
306 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 23:47:55
July 11 2011 23:44 GMT
#92
as soon as GSL started piping their players over to MLG they pretty much own the event. I don't see any prize money staying on North American Soil.

Kiwikaki and Select are perfect examples of this fact. Pre-Columbus they were finals contenders every MLG . -Columbus they both went like what...0-5? 1-4?

Last MLG the only hope to crack this stereotype was IdrA, and he just folded under the pressure. So unless he figures out whatever it is he needs to figure out it will be a repeat of last time.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
July 11 2011 23:48 GMT
#93
On July 12 2011 08:44 starcraft2rush wrote:
as soon as GSL started piping their players over to MLG they pretty much own the event. I don't see any prize money staying on North American Soil.

Kiwikaki and Select are perfect examples of this fact. Pre-Columbus they were finals contenders every MLG . -Columbus they both went like what...0-5? 1-4?

I don't see how kiwikaki and select can be examples... I guess you mean evidence? But even then, how are they perfect evidence? It's absurd to suggest that they lost to North Americans and Europeans just because GSL players were in the tournament.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
July 11 2011 23:49 GMT
#94
Nani, Idra, MMA and Select.

Really, there are no other options.
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Sackings
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada457 Posts
July 11 2011 23:54 GMT
#95
what i want: naniwa, sheth, dont care, select

most likely: DRG, IdrA, MMA, MVP
naniwa fighting!!!
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
July 12 2011 00:06 GMT
#96
On July 12 2011 08:03 travis wrote:
drg, sheth, ret, mma


?? who wins group D? ret and mma same group
Ladnil
Profile Joined July 2011
United States93 Posts
July 12 2011 00:13 GMT
#97
MLG doesn't award "pro status" and flight/hotel stipends to their top 16 seeds? I know they do that for Halo. Maybe it's just too much to be giving flight stipends to all these international players compared to what it costs to fly a Halo player across the USA.
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Syrupjuice
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States173 Posts
July 12 2011 00:15 GMT
#98
Sheesh, some pretty big name Koreans going to be at Anaheim! I think that the foreigners are going to have to work really hard to get in a good group stage appearance.
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
July 12 2011 00:16 GMT
#99
as soon as GSL started piping their players over to MLG they pretty much own the event. I don't see any prize money staying on North American Soil.


The amount of prize money at MLG is small, do the players/teams really care about the MLG prize money as much as they care about exposure from the event?
EtohEtoh
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada669 Posts
July 12 2011 00:18 GMT
#100
I think Huk and Naniwa have a pretty good chance vs DRG, since they are arguably the strongest foreigners out there

Idra also has a good chance of being number one in his group, which sucks cause I want Boxer to have a good time.

the koreans win the other two groups unless they practice their ass off
bLzBadman
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand36 Posts
July 12 2011 00:18 GMT
#101
will TLO play???/ or will he still be injuried during this event???
proxY_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1561 Posts
July 12 2011 00:18 GMT
#102
Group A is probably the scariest group I've seen at an MLG.
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Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
July 12 2011 00:19 GMT
#103
DRG, IdrA, MMA, Mvp
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Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
July 12 2011 00:23 GMT
#104
On July 12 2011 09:13 Ladnil wrote:
MLG doesn't award "pro status" and flight/hotel stipends to their top 16 seeds? I know they do that for Halo. Maybe it's just too much to be giving flight stipends to all these international players compared to what it costs to fly a Halo player across the USA.


that doesnt happen till thid event
FunnelC4kes
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland462 Posts
July 12 2011 00:26 GMT
#105
On July 12 2011 09:23 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 09:13 Ladnil wrote:
MLG doesn't award "pro status" and flight/hotel stipends to their top 16 seeds? I know they do that for Halo. Maybe it's just too much to be giving flight stipends to all these international players compared to what it costs to fly a Halo player across the USA.


that doesnt happen till thid event


Source?

This IS the 3rd event, btw
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425kid
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
July 12 2011 00:27 GMT
#106
Idra is like the 4th best player in his group...
MenSol[ZerO]
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1134 Posts
July 12 2011 00:37 GMT
#107
DRG/Boxer/MMA/KiWiKaKi
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States82 Posts
July 12 2011 00:44 GMT
#108
This is absolutely silly, all the koreans are going to dominate their groups....group A is relatively fair I guess with Huk and Naniwa...but DRG is terrifying
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Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 12 2011 00:45 GMT
#109
On July 12 2011 09:06 JoeSchmoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 08:03 travis wrote:
drg, sheth, ret, mma


?? who wins group D? ret and mma same group


oops sorry i mean MVP not MMA, thx
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United States97276 Posts
July 12 2011 00:47 GMT
#110
On July 12 2011 09:27 425kid wrote:
Idra is like the 4th best player in his group...

I would say he is second to Boxer. He crushed Sheth in a showmatch, at least I remember seeing this somewhere. Idra has superior multitasking to SJow, This is pretty much the standard to beating him. Idra is better than Incontrol as well. Not trying to be a fanboy, I disagree with your opinion. It IS possible for any of the players in his group to beat him, though. I wouldn't list him as a landslide favorite in any game since his play can be kind of unpredictable at times (losing to merz after leading the series 1-0... im sure there are other example that i just dont feel like looking up atm)
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galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
July 12 2011 00:52 GMT
#111
Group A only seems like the group of 3 really good people and Haypro. As far as I know HayprO can't compete with Huk or naniwa (tho I would love to see him do so!), and TLO is injured (any word on if he's competing?)

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fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
July 12 2011 01:04 GMT
#112
You didn't include an option for the player coming out of the open bracket in your polls.

Freaking Alicia is going to be in the open bracket. :X He's gonna July that shit up so bad.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
July 12 2011 01:07 GMT
#113
Whoa I didn't know MVP or DRG were going. I must have missed that announcement. DRG was hinted at... but I'm surprised they went with a 3rd terran for the 4th invite. This should be very interesting.
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
July 12 2011 01:12 GMT
#114
On July 12 2011 09:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 09:27 425kid wrote:
Idra is like the 4th best player in his group...

I would say he is second to Boxer. He crushed Sheth in a showmatch, at least I remember seeing this somewhere. Idra has superior multitasking to SJow, This is pretty much the standard to beating him. Idra is better than Incontrol as well. Not trying to be a fanboy, I disagree with your opinion. It IS possible for any of the players in his group to beat him, though. I wouldn't list him as a landslide favorite in any game since his play can be kind of unpredictable at times (losing to merz after leading the series 1-0... im sure there are other example that i just dont feel like looking up atm)


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branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
July 12 2011 01:12 GMT
#115
Group A and B are gonna be interesting. I get the feeling C and D's first place are already decided.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 01:16:11
July 12 2011 01:15 GMT
#116
All the Koreans will come out ahead!

DRG/Boxer/MMA/MVP
galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
July 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#117
On July 12 2011 10:04 fant0m wrote:
You didn't include an option for the player coming out of the open bracket in your polls.

Freaking Alicia is going to be in the open bracket. :X He's gonna July that shit up so bad.


I didn't do that because we obviously dont know who's going to make it out.
Also, winners of the pools are decided before the open bracket players are inserted into the groups (winning your bracket gets you the seed going into the finals or whatever).
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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 01:26:14
July 12 2011 01:25 GMT
#118
On July 12 2011 10:24 galtdunn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 10:04 fant0m wrote:
You didn't include an option for the player coming out of the open bracket in your polls.

Freaking Alicia is going to be in the open bracket. :X He's gonna July that shit up so bad.


I didn't do that because we obviously dont know who's going to make it out.
Also, winners of the pools are decided before the open bracket players are inserted into the groups (winning your bracket gets you the seed going into the finals or whatever).

No, this isn't true. Naniwa won his group even though he came from the Open Bracket.

EDIT: You probably should have just put an option "Open Bracket winner"
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dc302
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia576 Posts
July 12 2011 01:27 GMT
#119
I don't know if DRG can beat Huk, please prove me wrong though!!
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galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
July 12 2011 01:32 GMT
#120
On July 12 2011 10:25 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 10:24 galtdunn wrote:
On July 12 2011 10:04 fant0m wrote:
You didn't include an option for the player coming out of the open bracket in your polls.

Freaking Alicia is going to be in the open bracket. :X He's gonna July that shit up so bad.


I didn't do that because we obviously dont know who's going to make it out.
Also, winners of the pools are decided before the open bracket players are inserted into the groups (winning your bracket gets you the seed going into the finals or whatever).

No, this isn't true. Naniwa won his group even though he came from the Open Bracket.

EDIT: You probably should have just put an option "Open Bracket winner"


Hm I suppose youre right about the first part. But there is still a leader of the group before open bracketers join.
Adding an open bracket winner option still doesn't make sense to me, there's no point voting on something that vague (it's less fun too )
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fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
July 12 2011 01:35 GMT
#121
Zomg DongRaeGu is going to beast it up, and who would vote iNcontroL to win Pool B, really?
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0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
July 12 2011 01:40 GMT
#122
On July 12 2011 09:27 425kid wrote:
Idra is like the 4th best player in his group...

I think he is the best player in his group by far.
galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
July 12 2011 01:44 GMT
#123
On July 12 2011 10:40 0ne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 09:27 425kid wrote:
Idra is like the 4th best player in his group...

I think he is the best player in his group by far.


Not by far, he got 2-0ed by Boxer in the NASL. So that should be a very good matchup.
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0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 01:50:54
July 12 2011 01:48 GMT
#124
On July 12 2011 10:44 galtdunn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 10:40 0ne wrote:
On July 12 2011 09:27 425kid wrote:
Idra is like the 4th best player in his group...

I think he is the best player in his group by far.


Not by far, he got 2-0ed by Boxer in the NASL. So that should be a very good matchup.

Do you remember Idra's group in MLG Columbus? Well, he got first place.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 02:00:04
July 12 2011 01:49 GMT
#125
On July 12 2011 10:32 galtdunn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 10:25 pdd wrote:
On July 12 2011 10:24 galtdunn wrote:
On July 12 2011 10:04 fant0m wrote:
You didn't include an option for the player coming out of the open bracket in your polls.

Freaking Alicia is going to be in the open bracket. :X He's gonna July that shit up so bad.


I didn't do that because we obviously dont know who's going to make it out.
Also, winners of the pools are decided before the open bracket players are inserted into the groups (winning your bracket gets you the seed going into the finals or whatever).

No, this isn't true. Naniwa won his group even though he came from the Open Bracket.

EDIT: You probably should have just put an option "Open Bracket winner"


Hm I suppose youre right about the first part. But there is still a leader of the group before open bracketers join.
Adding an open bracket winner option still doesn't make sense to me, there's no point voting on something that vague (it's less fun too )

I think you did it the right way. We don't even know how many pros are entering the open bracket. Alicia in group C or Tyler in group A would probably have very different outcomes (hopefully Tyler comes in on top form and I'm wrong though). Its just too hard to predict what will happen once the open bracket players get put into the pools.

Edit:I hope Boxer starts the game vs Idra with "Hi Grack" if he wants to get into Idra's head while he proxies 2 barracks in his natural it would be a good idea.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 01:51:05
July 12 2011 01:50 GMT
#126
On July 12 2011 10:44 galtdunn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 10:40 0ne wrote:
On July 12 2011 09:27 425kid wrote:
Idra is like the 4th best player in his group...

I think he is the best player in his group by far.


Not by far, he got 2-0ed by Boxer in the NASL. So that should be a very good matchup.


Might want to actually watch the games (proxy 2raxes) and not the results.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
July 12 2011 01:52 GMT
#127
Boxer > Idra because 2 Rax is an insta win against Idra. He just GGs.
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Profile Joined April 2011
United States344 Posts
July 12 2011 01:52 GMT
#128
I wish MKP was sent to MLG, however this is gonna be a ridiculous hard tournament for foreigners this could be a colombus repeat with the top 3 spots going to koreans.
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galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 01:58:43
July 12 2011 01:53 GMT
#129
On July 12 2011 10:50 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 10:44 galtdunn wrote:
On July 12 2011 10:40 0ne wrote:
On July 12 2011 09:27 425kid wrote:
Idra is like the 4th best player in his group...

I think he is the best player in his group by far.


Not by far, he got 2-0ed by Boxer in the NASL. So that should be a very good matchup.


Might want to actually watch the games (proxy 2raxes) and not the results.


Idk, I heard one game was a 2 rax and the other was a macro game (i might have even watched them, I have a terrible memory T.T)
In other words not saying you're wrong, I just read differently somewhere and that person could have been wrong too.
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MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
July 12 2011 01:54 GMT
#130
Yes! Idra and Boxer in the same group!
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doihy
Profile Joined August 2010
668 Posts
July 12 2011 02:02 GMT
#131
On July 12 2011 10:50 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 10:44 galtdunn wrote:
On July 12 2011 10:40 0ne wrote:
On July 12 2011 09:27 425kid wrote:
Idra is like the 4th best player in his group...

I think he is the best player in his group by far.


Not by far, he got 2-0ed by Boxer in the NASL. So that should be a very good matchup.


Might want to actually watch the games (proxy 2raxes) and not the results.


So whats stopping boxer from proxy raxing again ? -.-
Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
July 12 2011 02:02 GMT
#132
DRG isn't going to do as well as people think he will, calling it now. I predict either naniwa or huk taking out no.1 in group A.
EtohEtoh
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada669 Posts
July 12 2011 02:07 GMT
#133
On July 12 2011 11:02 Suc wrote:
DRG isn't going to do as well as people think he will, calling it now. I predict either naniwa or huk taking out no.1 in group A.


yep, im like one of the biggest DRG fans, but even he says he is still trying to find a style for ZvP, and huk and Naniwa are some of the strongest protosses out there
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States987 Posts
July 12 2011 02:09 GMT
#134
Pool A is ridiculously good, I hope boxer can get far however, hope he practices hard!
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1096 Posts
July 12 2011 02:09 GMT
#135
moonan is T isnt he?
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galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
July 12 2011 02:11 GMT
#136
On July 12 2011 11:09 FrankWalls wrote:
moonan is T isnt he?


LOL. you're totally right. Idk how i didn't catch that. i feel like its okay cause the picture from MLG is there
maybe thats why no one is voting for him, he's gonna play zerg
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SomeONEx
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden641 Posts
July 12 2011 02:13 GMT
#137
DongRaeGu out in groups.
MVP (player) takes it.
You heard it first here.
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Profile Joined April 2011
United States253 Posts
July 12 2011 02:27 GMT
#138
group a is so stacked, damn this is gonna be so entertaining to watch. poor liquid though, the only one i see getting top 2 is huk.
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DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
July 12 2011 02:31 GMT
#139
So many good Koreans, excellent
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galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 02:46:12
July 12 2011 02:45 GMT
#140
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 12 2011 10:49 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 10:32 galtdunn wrote:
On July 12 2011 10:25 pdd wrote:
On July 12 2011 10:24 galtdunn wrote:
On July 12 2011 10:04 fant0m wrote:
You didn't include an option for the player coming out of the open bracket in your polls.

Freaking Alicia is going to be in the open bracket. :X He's gonna July that shit up so bad.


I didn't do that because we obviously dont know who's going to make it out.
Also, winners of the pools are decided before the open bracket players are inserted into the groups (winning your bracket gets you the seed going into the finals or whatever).

No, this isn't true. Naniwa won his group even though he came from the Open Bracket.

EDIT: You probably should have just put an option "Open Bracket winner"


Hm I suppose youre right about the first part. But there is still a leader of the group before open bracketers join.
Adding an open bracket winner option still doesn't make sense to me, there's no point voting on something that vague (it's less fun too )

I think you did it the right way. We don't even know how many pros are entering the open bracket. Alicia in group C or Tyler in group A would probably have very different outcomes (hopefully Tyler comes in on top form and I'm wrong though). Its just too hard to predict what will happen once the open bracket players get put into the pools.


Edit:I hope Boxer starts the game vs Idra with "Hi Grack" if he wants to get into Idra's head while he proxies 2 barracks in his natural it would be a good idea.


This.
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0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
July 12 2011 02:47 GMT
#141
On July 12 2011 11:13 SomeONEx wrote:
DongRaeGu out in groups.
MVP (player) takes it.
You heard it first here.

Groups are only for seeding.
Rococo
Profile Joined May 2011
United States331 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 03:35:24
July 12 2011 03:34 GMT
#142
On July 12 2011 10:50 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 10:44 galtdunn wrote:
On July 12 2011 10:40 0ne wrote:
On July 12 2011 09:27 425kid wrote:
Idra is like the 4th best player in his group...

I think he is the best player in his group by far.


Not by far, he got 2-0ed by Boxer in the NASL. So that should be a very good matchup.


Might want to actually watch the games (proxy 2raxes) and not the results.


...one of which was scouted early, causing Boxer to transition into a regular game. He still won.

That being said nothing else really matters but the results.
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Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore67 Posts
July 12 2011 03:36 GMT
#143
Manofoneway vs Greck! :3
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
July 12 2011 03:38 GMT
#144
DRG and HuK in the same group ~-~ Insane ZvP action to learn from :3
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Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 04:05:44
July 12 2011 04:02 GMT
#145
Pool A is SOOO stacked. Didn't even realize Naniwa AND HuK were in it, and now that fricken DRG is in it too.. my god the epicness will be unreal.

Idra vs Boxer is gonna be intense as well.

So my question to you guys, top ten dream finals?
#10 Idra vs DRG
Would be a pretty cool ZvZ

#9: Korean vs Foriegner (other than those mentioned below or above)

#8: Naniwa vs Idra:
This would be pretty cool, I'd cheer on whoever beat the most/best koreans to get there.

#7 MMA vs MVP:
The test to see who's the better terran. Would probably produce some legendary games.

#6: Idra vs MMA: The Rematch
I feel a best of 7 of Idra vs MMA would be something much MUCH different than what we saw at collumbus, and even tho normally I'm not an Idra fan, I'd cheer for him to take this one and claim the cup for the foriegners.


#5 HuK vs Naniwa
If BOTH of them, fought through throngs of koreans to the finals this would be legendary. I don't even know which I'd cheer for (actually I do, and it's HuK) I'd love to see this one.

#4 Naniwa vs MMA
In what NOBODY can dispute is a match of foriegner vs korean, MMA defending his title, Naniwa trying to take it back, this could be insane.
Dream Winner: Naniwa

#3: Idra vs HuK
Oh my, this would be an epic finals. These two now have quite the rivalry going.
Dream winner: HuK

#2 DRG or MMA vs HuK
In an epic battle of Korea vs Foriegner (...don't start that "ooh he did what he had to to get good, guess he's korean BS) this could be one for the ages if it happens, plus HuK is Canadian/American, so it'd be even better.
Dream winner: HuK, and he could certainly pull it off.


#1. Master vs Apprentice: SlayersBoxer vs MMA

This would just be the best thing ever, last time it happened (Boxer vs IloveOOV in the 2004 Ever OSL) is allegedly one of the most heart touching things in Starcraft BW. And it could happen again, truth be told it's not THAT unlikely, 3 of our korean players in this MLG are in code B, and these code B players have shown time and again that they can beat code S players. I could actually see the crowd crowd-surfing BOTH of them after an amazing series in the finals.

Dream winner: Boxer, though this time around he'd certianly be the underdog, but it would be SO TOUCHING if he won, on foreign soil, against his protege.

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Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore20 Posts
July 12 2011 04:54 GMT
#146
Nani, HuK and DRG in the same Group omg...
nothing
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
July 12 2011 06:04 GMT
#147
On July 12 2011 13:54 tienvh wrote:
Nani, HuK and DRG in the same Group omg...


Those three PLUS one from the open bracket... it's gonna be a bloodbath
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PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
July 12 2011 06:12 GMT
#148
i thought tyler was in top 16
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Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
July 12 2011 06:35 GMT
#149
On July 12 2011 15:04 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 13:54 tienvh wrote:
Nani, HuK and DRG in the same Group omg...


Those three PLUS one from the open bracket... it's gonna be a bloodbath


Omg please let it be Alicia. Ganzi would be alright too I guess. ^^
duk3
Profile Joined September 2010
United States807 Posts
July 12 2011 06:35 GMT
#150
Groups A and D look like the hardest, BoxeR is awesome but people expecting him to pull out the win over IdrA (assuming that IdrA doesn't resign after BoxeR kills his own command center) are wrong.
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DeathPengu
Profile Joined January 2011
Taiwan137 Posts
July 12 2011 06:52 GMT
#151
TL team kill in pool A, so sad.
wolfe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States761 Posts
July 12 2011 07:28 GMT
#152
Pool A... lol I'm scared.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
July 12 2011 07:30 GMT
#153
I'm interested to see which foreigners can handle the Dong.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
July 12 2011 07:31 GMT
#154
On July 12 2011 15:35 Bibbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 15:04 TheDougler wrote:
On July 12 2011 13:54 tienvh wrote:
Nani, HuK and DRG in the same Group omg...


Those three PLUS one from the open bracket... it's gonna be a bloodbath


Omg please let it be Alicia. Ganzi would be alright too I guess. ^^


Are those two both gonna be in the open bracket?! Lol, slayers just trying to dominate the whole event, good on em.
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GMonster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
686 Posts
July 12 2011 07:32 GMT
#155
Pool A really depends on if HuK plays up to his potential, but i agree basicly with the votes, DRG probably favored with a close second to HuK. IdrA will probably 2-0 everyone in his group, MMA is favored, and i dont see MVP losing to anyone other then DRG and maybe IdrA.
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TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
July 12 2011 07:35 GMT
#156
On July 12 2011 15:12 Za7oX wrote:
i thought tyler was in top 16


from what results gave you this impression?
Tuk
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom223 Posts
July 12 2011 07:49 GMT
#157
Feeling some korean T domination, shame MC isnt here would be nice to see him/drg/mvp-mma-boxer etc
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
July 12 2011 07:55 GMT
#158
On July 12 2011 13:02 TheDougler wrote:
Pool A is SOOO stacked. Didn't even realize Naniwa AND HuK were in it, and now that fricken DRG is in it too.. my god the epicness will be unreal.

Idra vs Boxer is gonna be intense as well.

So my question to you guys, top ten dream finals?
#10 Idra vs DRG
Would be a pretty cool ZvZ

#9: Korean vs Foriegner (other than those mentioned below or above)

#8: Naniwa vs Idra:
This would be pretty cool, I'd cheer on whoever beat the most/best koreans to get there.

#7 MMA vs MVP:
The test to see who's the better terran. Would probably produce some legendary games.

#6: Idra vs MMA: The Rematch
I feel a best of 7 of Idra vs MMA would be something much MUCH different than what we saw at collumbus, and even tho normally I'm not an Idra fan, I'd cheer for him to take this one and claim the cup for the foriegners.


#5 HuK vs Naniwa
If BOTH of them, fought through throngs of koreans to the finals this would be legendary. I don't even know which I'd cheer for (actually I do, and it's HuK) I'd love to see this one.

#4 Naniwa vs MMA
In what NOBODY can dispute is a match of foriegner vs korean, MMA defending his title, Naniwa trying to take it back, this could be insane.
Dream Winner: Naniwa

#3: Idra vs HuK
Oh my, this would be an epic finals. These two now have quite the rivalry going.
Dream winner: HuK

#2 DRG or MMA vs HuK
In an epic battle of Korea vs Foriegner (...don't start that "ooh he did what he had to to get good, guess he's korean BS) this could be one for the ages if it happens, plus HuK is Canadian/American, so it'd be even better.
Dream winner: HuK, and he could certainly pull it off.


#1. Master vs Apprentice: SlayersBoxer vs MMA

This would just be the best thing ever, last time it happened (Boxer vs IloveOOV in the 2004 Ever OSL) is allegedly one of the most heart touching things in Starcraft BW. And it could happen again, truth be told it's not THAT unlikely, 3 of our korean players in this MLG are in code B, and these code B players have shown time and again that they can beat code S players. I could actually see the crowd crowd-surfing BOTH of them after an amazing series in the finals.

Dream winner: Boxer, though this time around he'd certianly be the underdog, but it would be SO TOUCHING if he won, on foreign soil, against his protege.



My top finals? The one that will truly be most epic. And pretty likely too.

MMA vs DRG


Someone call down the Thunder?
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
July 12 2011 08:10 GMT
#159
A: Huk. He's already beaten 2 excellent ZvPers in Moon and July. DRG hasn't demonstrated any particularly amazing ZvP yet. Definite possibility for a 3 way tie if Naniwa can beat Huk since it's PvP.

B: Idra. Boxer's win in the NASL was kinda cheesy. Won't happen again. Sheth could take him though since Idra isn't that good at ZvZ.

C: MMA ezpz

D: MVP ezpz
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
July 12 2011 08:14 GMT
#160
DRG is only good at zvt and theres only one terran in his group... good bye...
You know what I'm talking about
IceSlipper
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Australia1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 08:19:33
July 12 2011 08:19 GMT
#161
Nani
Idra
MMA
MVP!
SeriouR
Profile Joined November 2010
Spain622 Posts
July 12 2011 12:12 GMT
#162
Go Ret Go Huk Go MVP Go iDRa!
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andis35
Profile Joined May 2011
Latvia346 Posts
July 12 2011 16:05 GMT
#163
nani, sjow, socke, select

you heard it here first
TofuFox
Profile Joined November 2010
374 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 19:21:12
July 12 2011 19:20 GMT
#164
On July 12 2011 06:38 FunnelC4kes wrote:
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On July 12 2011 06:29 forgottendreams wrote:
On July 12 2011 06:21 galtdunn wrote:
Should I set up a poll for Open Bracket Players people want to see do well?

ex. Thorzain, non-seeded koreans, etc?


Well we know thorzain won't be participating in this MLG.

I expect Alicia to place top seed in the open bracket, choya second, meaning group A is going to be just insanely intense.


The seeds from the open bracket is based on on where the player was seeded in the open bracket. Once 4 players in the open bracket are left "alive" the play stops, and resumes with groups.

You could say that there is four separate open brackets, tournament A, B, C, and D, and the winner of those go to the respective groups. Make sense?

In other words, top 4 are not given seeds in groups based on rank, but are assigned groups based on where in the open bracket they ended up once play stops.


No, they're seeded 21-24 based on their open bracket seeds. (Highest-Second Highest - Etc). However, as Alicia, Choya and Ganzi don't have any MLG rank points (either from earlier competitions or the online tourney) they will get random seeds and so we don't know where they'll end up.

Look at the Columbus Brackets, from top to bottom of Open:
Major (24 in Pool, 233 in Open, Pool D)
StartaleJuly (22 in Pool, 29 in Open, Pool B)
Thorzain (23 in Pool, 163 in Open, Pool C)
Fenix (21 in Pool, 18 in Open, Pool A)

Since only 67 players have rank points (plus whatever small sample actually plays in the online tourney) a Korean could easily end up with the highest seed of the Open Bracket winners - look at how high an Open Bracket seed July got, without any points.


On July 12 2011 07:46 sjschmidt93 wrote:
I think Huk and Naniwa just died a little inside, I know they would've took all of the Terrans before DRG.

Also nani is #1 seed right? Why would #1 seed from open bracket go there?


To continue from rank 1-16:

1 2 3 4
8 7 6 5
9 10 11 12
16 15 14 13
(20 19 18 17) - Koreans separate for whatever reason
21 22 23 24

At Dallas it was just

1 2 3 4
8 7 6 5
9 10 11 12
16 15 14 13
17 18 19 20

With no Koreans. For some reason they seed the Koreans 17-20 and open bracket 21-24 while arranging the groups like it was the other way around.

On July 12 2011 09:13 Ladnil wrote:
MLG doesn't award "pro status" and flight/hotel stipends to their top 16 seeds? I know they do that for Halo. Maybe it's just too much to be giving flight stipends to all these international players compared to what it costs to fly a Halo player across the USA.


There may be a $400 Travel Stipend for the top 16 starting this event, but it may have been withdrawn, and it wouldn't be enough for KR->US anyway.
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Last Edited: 2011-07-14 00:03:57
July 14 2011 00:03 GMT
#165
Group A
1. DongRaeGu
2. NaNiWa
3. HuK
4. TLO
5. HayprO


Group B
1. IdrA
2. BoxeR
3. SjoW
4. Sheth
5. iNcontrol


Group C
1. MMA
2. Socke
3. Ret
4. Slush
5. Drewbie


Group D
1. MVP
2. SeleCt
3. Kiwikaki
4. mOoNan
5. Machine


Potential BYOC-Winners:
Alicia
Choya
GanZi
DeMusliM
???
Any Open Bracket playerlist yet?
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
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