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Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
July 11 2011 21:54 GMT
#41
Huk(ok NRG is prob gonna take it, but cant vote against huk ), boxer, mma mvp. sadly think next mlg will bring the op qq back to the terran.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
July 11 2011 21:54 GMT
#42
It's group A vs group D and group B vs group C right? We might see father vs son...
Bladgrim
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada179 Posts
July 11 2011 21:56 GMT
#43
On July 12 2011 06:37 galtdunn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:34 FunnelC4kes wrote:
I feel like MMA shouldn't be seeded in with the default "Korean seeds," but should instead be given points based off of his win in Columbus.

Anyone else think so?


I'd agree with this, but if he only had his points from Columbus, he'd be in the open bracket (cause he didnt compete in Dallas).
Also there was probably not a guaruntee he was coming back anyways, so giving him points might have been pointless.


You are wrong here, actually. Think about HuK, at least.

HuK competed in Dallas, and he placed 10th. He didn't go to Columbus. He still can come to Anaheim, ranked 21st in points.

MMA did not compete in Dallas, but he placed first in Columbus. Unless the MLG point system is completely messed up (it's not), MMA would be ahead of HuK. He would easily get a seed.

Anyways, MMA was the 3rd highest seed, behind Naniwa and Idra.

See here for reference: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings
All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost.
FunnelC4kes
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland462 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 22:05:59
July 11 2011 21:57 GMT
#44
On July 12 2011 06:37 galtdunn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:34 FunnelC4kes wrote:
I feel like MMA shouldn't be seeded in with the default "Korean seeds," but should instead be given points based off of his win in Columbus.

Anyone else think so?


I'd agree with this, but if he only had his points from Columbus, he'd be in the open bracket (cause he didnt compete in Dallas).
Also there was probably not a guaruntee he was coming back anyways, so giving him points might have been pointless.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=231051
Also Liquipedia has the same rankings here:http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings

According to this post by Xerix, MMA is #3 seed, which would change the groups thus:

Group A:
Naniwa
EGiNcontrol
Liquid'Haypro
Sheth

Group B:
Idra1
Liquid'Ret
Liquid'TLO
Drewbie

Group C:
MMA
SeleCt
SjoW
Machine

Group D:
Slush450
Kiwikaki
Socke
FXOmoonan

Even though MMA would still be in the same group, it would shift the brackets a bit. Most noticeably Liquid team-kill and bumping HuK out of Group play, he'd have to crawl through the open bracket

As far as the other Korean-dedicated slot, they could seed another Korean into Group A, instead of forcing them to qualify through the opens.

This is based off of Xeris' information being spot-on, which there was no official word from MLG what the exact seed points are going into MLG Anaheim.

Edit: Added Liquipedia link, thanks to Bladgrim for finding that one!

On July 12 2011 06:40 FinnGamer wrote:
If he would been seeded with points he would have had to pay for his flight and everything else


I'm not sure about that. I lean towards disagreeing with you, but that's just based on instinct. They could invite him, yet still give him a seed. I don't see any reason that would not be an option.
Scholar. Shaman. Starcraft Enthusiast.
beat farm
Profile Joined October 2010
United States478 Posts
July 11 2011 22:02 GMT
#45
wtf group A is so stacked. best korean and the 2 best foreigners participating in mlg with huk and naniwa. TLO aint bad either.
Nighthawks28
Profile Joined June 2011
United States232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 22:13:00
July 11 2011 22:02 GMT
#46
MMA is not considered the #3 seed b/c he is attending as a GSL invite. If he took the #3 seed, then he would have to pay for his flight/hotel. MLG only pays for invites (invites are considered the last 4 seeds in pool play). If MMA didn't get an invite, he might not even show up to the tournament (like MC and Losira declined, even though they could have been in the pool). MLG gave MMA the invite b/c the winner deserves to defend his title.

Also note that the pools are permanent. If for some reason MC, Losira, Thorzain, etc... change their minds and attend MLG Anaheim, they will not be given their spot in the pool. They would have to play in the open bracket.
svefnleysi
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland623 Posts
July 11 2011 22:04 GMT
#47
On July 12 2011 06:21 Charger wrote:
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On July 12 2011 06:16 WArped wrote:
Poor BoxeR.


Poor Boxer is gonna take first in his group, which is one of the easier ones. Only player I see taking multiple games off him is Idra but even then, no one cheeses like Boxer and no one tilts harder than Idra. Boxer also took down Idra 2-0 at the end of the NASL, one game of cheese and one game of standard play.

Boxer as 1, Idra as 2 in Pool B.

I agree.

Also noteworthy, is that in the NASL, Boxer defeated Idra while playing from Korea. I'd be surprised to see Idra take a game off Boxer without a latency advantage.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
July 11 2011 22:06 GMT
#48
I don't see DRG just rolling over Huk and Naniwa in group A.
UniversalMind
Profile Joined March 2011
United States326 Posts
July 11 2011 22:09 GMT
#49
eh from the looks of it Koreans will pretty much be top 5 I see MVP MMA and Dong taking top 3 easily. Huk will prob place fourth and he is Korean I would say IdrA would take 5th but boxer will prob abuse IdrAs play style hmm yeah def a Korean top 5
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
July 11 2011 22:14 GMT
#50
THE DONG coming to the States! Watch out Group A!

Like others, I foresee another Korean top 3. If HuK or NaNiwa goes on a tear, they might be able to pull it off, but I doubt it.

Regardless, I'm excited as hell for DRG to come play.
galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
July 11 2011 22:16 GMT
#51
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 12 2011 06:57 FunnelC4kes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:37 galtdunn wrote:
On July 12 2011 06:34 FunnelC4kes wrote:
I feel like MMA shouldn't be seeded in with the default "Korean seeds," but should instead be given points based off of his win in Columbus.

Anyone else think so?


I'd agree with this, but if he only had his points from Columbus, he'd be in the open bracket (cause he didnt compete in Dallas).
Also there was probably not a guaruntee he was coming back anyways, so giving him points might have been pointless.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=231051
Also Liquipedia has the same rankings here:http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings

According to this post by Xerix, MMA is #3 seed, which would change the groups thus:

Group A:
Naniwa
EGiNcontrol
Liquid'Haypro
Sheth

Group B:
Idra1
Liquid'Ret
Liquid'TLO
Drewbie

Group C:
MMA
SeleCt
SjoW
Machine

Group D:
Slush450
Kiwikaki
Socke
FXOmoonan

Even though MMA would still be in the same group, it would shift the brackets a bit. Most noticeably Liquid team-kill and bumping HuK out of Group play, he'd have to crawl through the open bracket

As far as the other Korean-dedicated slot, they could seed another Korean into Group A, instead of forcing them to qualify through the opens.

This is based off of Xeris' information being spot-on, which there was no official word from MLG what the exact seed points are going into MLG Anaheim.

Edit: Added Liquipedia link, thanks to Bladgrim for finding that one!

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:40 FinnGamer wrote:
If he would been seeded with points he would have had to pay for his flight and everything else


I'm not sure about that. I lean towards disagreeing with you, but that's just based on instinct. They could invite him, yet still give him a seed. I don't see any reason that would not be an option.


Well I'm no MLG expert on points But I got the pools from here.
Currently editing items in the DotA 2 wiki. PM for questions/suggestions.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 11 2011 22:16 GMT
#52
On July 12 2011 06:56 Bladgrim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:37 galtdunn wrote:
On July 12 2011 06:34 FunnelC4kes wrote:
I feel like MMA shouldn't be seeded in with the default "Korean seeds," but should instead be given points based off of his win in Columbus.

Anyone else think so?


I'd agree with this, but if he only had his points from Columbus, he'd be in the open bracket (cause he didnt compete in Dallas).
Also there was probably not a guaruntee he was coming back anyways, so giving him points might have been pointless.


You are wrong here, actually. Think about HuK, at least.

HuK competed in Dallas, and he placed 10th. He didn't go to Columbus. He still can come to Anaheim, ranked 21st in points.

MMA did not compete in Dallas, but he placed first in Columbus. Unless the MLG point system is completely messed up (it's not), MMA would be ahead of HuK. He would easily get a seed.

Anyways, MMA was the 3rd highest seed, behind Naniwa and Idra.

See here for reference: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings


Totally agree with this. Complete waste of points, such a pity... -.-
If he had used his points, Alicia or Ganzi could be in the pool play
FunnelC4kes
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland462 Posts
July 11 2011 22:18 GMT
#53
On July 12 2011 07:16 galtdunn wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 12 2011 06:57 FunnelC4kes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:37 galtdunn wrote:
On July 12 2011 06:34 FunnelC4kes wrote:
I feel like MMA shouldn't be seeded in with the default "Korean seeds," but should instead be given points based off of his win in Columbus.

Anyone else think so?


I'd agree with this, but if he only had his points from Columbus, he'd be in the open bracket (cause he didnt compete in Dallas).
Also there was probably not a guaruntee he was coming back anyways, so giving him points might have been pointless.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=231051
Also Liquipedia has the same rankings here:http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings

According to this post by Xerix, MMA is #3 seed, which would change the groups thus:

Group A:
Naniwa
EGiNcontrol
Liquid'Haypro
Sheth

Group B:
Idra1
Liquid'Ret
Liquid'TLO
Drewbie

Group C:
MMA
SeleCt
SjoW
Machine

Group D:
Slush450
Kiwikaki
Socke
FXOmoonan

Even though MMA would still be in the same group, it would shift the brackets a bit. Most noticeably Liquid team-kill and bumping HuK out of Group play, he'd have to crawl through the open bracket

As far as the other Korean-dedicated slot, they could seed another Korean into Group A, instead of forcing them to qualify through the opens.

This is based off of Xeris' information being spot-on, which there was no official word from MLG what the exact seed points are going into MLG Anaheim.

Edit: Added Liquipedia link, thanks to Bladgrim for finding that one!

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:40 FinnGamer wrote:
If he would been seeded with points he would have had to pay for his flight and everything else


I'm not sure about that. I lean towards disagreeing with you, but that's just based on instinct. They could invite him, yet still give him a seed. I don't see any reason that would not be an option.


Well I'm no MLG expert on points But I got the pools from here.


Yeah, I know--I was just wondering why it was they didn't give him the #3 seed.

Other people think it's because MLG wouldn't have sponsored his trip otherwise... I'll ask in other threads, as well. Cheers
Scholar. Shaman. Starcraft Enthusiast.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 11 2011 22:18 GMT
#54
On July 12 2011 06:40 FinnGamer wrote:
If he would been seeded with points he would have had to pay for his flight and everything else


Not really, two Slayers player get their trip paid from their sponsors.
MMA could be one of them, and then either Alicia or Ganzi could be seeded.
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
July 11 2011 22:19 GMT
#55
On July 12 2011 06:54 Tonttu wrote:
What if open bracket guy wins?
But yeah.. Every Korean seed is pretty tough.. well maybe Group B, but I hope for Boxer!

you cant predict on open bracket guy since you dont know who that is, what it is now is just trying to predict using the known factors
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 11 2011 22:26 GMT
#56
Pool A is so stacked. You wouldn't believe Naniwa was the number 1 seed by looking at it. I went for the Sheth in his group and the Koreans in the others. But I sort of regret choosing Sheth because Boxer will probably proxy rax him and win.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14155 Posts
July 11 2011 22:26 GMT
#57
Pool A be the group of death
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
July 11 2011 22:28 GMT
#58
I picked SeleCT in group D. hes ma boy. Can't go wrong with that pick. Even though MVP is great.. SeleCT's got this!! Can't wait to see this event though. Its gonna be so fucking epic that people will die from adrenaline rushes. Oh yes.. it will happen
EG | Liquid | Dignitas | FXO | SlayerS | TSL | iS | Fan of pretty much all players ^_^ | SeleCT <3 forever! Axslav <3
FireFish
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark228 Posts
July 11 2011 22:30 GMT
#59
Wow group a looks so hard. I think DRG will take it and HuK second
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
July 11 2011 22:31 GMT
#60
Group A is deffo the group of death but to be quite honest others don't trail behind by much.
A good balance of powers i would say.
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