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Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-30 10:30:42
June 30 2011 10:29 GMT
#121
If people should work for free and shut up, so it looks professional, there is something very wrong going on. I might even go as far as saying that.....

It is hurting esports!!

+ Show Spoiler +
but really... ffs
I am not young enough to know everything.
djWHEAT
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States925 Posts
June 30 2011 13:33 GMT
#122
On June 30 2011 10:29 DennizR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2011 10:27 djWHEAT wrote:
On June 30 2011 10:19 dazer wrote:
djWHEAT! I would really like to see gootecks and Mike Ross get invited to Live on Three to introduce many of the starcraft community about the fighting game scene. Imo they would be great guest since they're not clueless about SC2 either


They've been on the show before and I would be surprised to see them appear again.


Do you mean that you wouldn't be surprised? Or did something bad happen?


LOL HORRIBLE TYPO

I would NOT be surprised to see them on again. Nothing bad happened at all I keep in touch with both of them
OneMoreGame.tv // Weapon Of Choice // Kings Of Tin // Inside The Game // Live On Three
djWHEAT
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States925 Posts
June 30 2011 13:38 GMT
#123
On June 30 2011 18:08 iamtheoneneo wrote:
Is it entirely professional for HuK to be complaining about lack of pay during a live broadcast and for you to then be quizzing this on the show for 5 minutes?

I dont want to hear if he hasnt been paid or not thats a matter for him and the organisers to sort out and shouldnt really be aired in public - it gives a bad , whinning and completely unprofessional tone to e-sports.

I would of thought Wheat of all people would of realised this.

asides from that good show.


LO3 has tackled the topic of people not getting paid from events many times. So in reality, it is topical to what the show has addressed before.

Was it appropriate to "attack" Carmac about it? Not necessarily, especially because Carmac isn't the one who signs the checks. However, Carmac handled it nicely, first suggesting that HuK should have said something at HSC (true), and then that he contact him after the show. Did a resolution occur? I don't know, but I sure as hell think it will.

How is that not a win for everyone?

And to be fair, it was Slasher who pitched the question to Carmac. Are you're suggesting that I faulted by not stopping it? I can't help you there, because I'm not in the business of censoring my own co-hosts and telling them what they can and cannot ask.
OneMoreGame.tv // Weapon Of Choice // Kings Of Tin // Inside The Game // Live On Three
djWHEAT
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States925 Posts
June 30 2011 13:43 GMT
#124
On June 30 2011 19:10 iamtheoneneo wrote:
if a discussion was to be had about this it should of been planned into the schedule as all it boiled down to was HuK saying 'need money', 'havent been paid' 'your full of shit' on twitter and djwheat laughing about it - thats not a discussion.


"laughing about it". Ok, Now you're just trolling. Thanks for making historical references in the cases in which LO3 has helped people get paid by exposing the fact that they had not already.

There was no FUCKING plan for a discussion in the first place, HuK saw that Carmac was on the show, and so he posed the question. Slasher picked it up because it's a common topic (or has been on LO3). So how do you PLAN something like that into a schedule, when it all went down as the show was happening? You don't.

Carmac was asked, he addressed it properly, and you know what, something will probably get done about it. So again I ask you, WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE PROBLEM WITH IT?
OneMoreGame.tv // Weapon Of Choice // Kings Of Tin // Inside The Game // Live On Three
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
June 30 2011 13:55 GMT
#125
Keep fighting. One troll at a time Wheat, one troll at a time.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
June 30 2011 14:00 GMT
#126
I think iamtheoneneo should make his own show, live on four, that only has topics that he cares about.
Thank God and gunrun.
The Iron Duke
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom41 Posts
June 30 2011 14:32 GMT
#127
I think the interaction between Carmac and huk was great, its nice having a show about e-sports that can have things like that brought up on it, Its not meant to be some espn talk show, and people dont see the good side of being able to have that interaction live on the show.
Its a no fluff show so having something come up and then not talking about it would be fluff. keep up the good work dj weat <3
always remember haters gunna hate.
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
June 30 2011 15:07 GMT
#128
I think it was the perfect show to talk about it. Also this whole oh lets not talk about it in public because it will hold back esports. Thats bs. If no one talks about it it will never be fixed. This isnt a new thing theres been alot of tournies in the past that to this day havent payed out. And just keeping that behind the scenes isnt going to make the tournies change.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 30 2011 15:11 GMT
#129
Great show as always WHEAT. Fight the haters!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
June 30 2011 15:13 GMT
#130
On July 01 2011 00:11 MCDayC wrote:
Great show as always WHEAT. Fight the haters!

No, no, no he doesn't fight them he converts them!
Rabbitmaster
Profile Joined August 2010
1357 Posts
June 30 2011 15:32 GMT
#131
On June 30 2011 18:08 iamtheoneneo wrote:
Is it entirely professional for HuK to be complaining about lack of pay during a live broadcast and for you to then be quizzing this on the show for 5 minutes?

I dont want to hear if he hasnt been paid or not thats a matter for him and the organisers to sort out and shouldnt really be aired in public - it gives a bad , whinning and completely unprofessional tone to e-sports.

I would of thought Wheat of all people would of realised this.

asides from that good show.


I would rather ask the question: Is it proffesional of tournament organizers to not pay their players on time/at all?

Afaik this is more common than people like to think in the e-sports scene, and in my opinion it needs to be discussed more. Tournaments should ideally pay the very same day they declare a winner to be honest.
God is dead.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4769 Posts
June 30 2011 15:42 GMT
#132
No fluff means no fluff, great job by LO3. Some people dont understand how common practice it is (to not pay players), or at least how common it used to be, i dont realy know how it is now.
Pathetic Greta hater.
djWHEAT
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States925 Posts
June 30 2011 16:31 GMT
#133
On July 01 2011 00:42 Silvanel wrote:
No fluff means no fluff, great job by LO3. Some people dont understand how common practice it is (to not pay players), or at least how common it used to be, i dont realy know how it is now.


It has gotten much better over the past 2 years, and partially due to the fact that it DID go public and WAS discussed in a public fashion.
OneMoreGame.tv // Weapon Of Choice // Kings Of Tin // Inside The Game // Live On Three
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
June 30 2011 16:32 GMT
#134
Wheat when are you gonna get Sundance on again!

Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
June 30 2011 20:37 GMT
#135
VOD is now up: http://blip.tv/liveonthree/live-on-three-e78-06-28-2011-5329034

HuK made his feelings known on Twitter while the show was live, tweeting at us. Breaking opportunity to ask a question - as well as get a reply from another pro, two-time IEM champion Rapha, to say he was paid for the same events.
TheTofuShop
Profile Joined April 2010
United States57 Posts
June 30 2011 20:51 GMT
#136
djWheat HWAITING the trolls. keep it up, Live on 3 gets me through the week.
My life for Aiur
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-30 21:11:30
June 30 2011 21:06 GMT
#137
It has gotten much better over the past 2 years, and partially due to the fact that it DID go public and WAS discussed in a public fashion.

I enjoyed the show and liked Carmac on it, but you guys did kind of miss a "no-fluff" opportunity. It is great that Carmac said people who haven't been paid should feel free to come and talk to him, but the issue is that unpaid players are having to go to that length to get paid in the first place and that money is being delayed for such large amounts of time. It may have gotten better but that is still not acceptable. When you sign up for a tournament there should be a clear procedure on exactly how and when the payout will occur, in writing.
ZergMaestro
Profile Joined January 2011
United States169 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 01:07:41
July 01 2011 00:53 GMT
#138
About the latest episode. LoL replacing Quake doesn't bother me(I've never played LoL or any dota like game) its the death of competitive FPS. EPIC has sold out and dropped unreal for gears of war.
ID Software has done shit. Rage looks like shit.

Brink? Serious Sam 3? Counter Strike 2.6?

Do competitive First Person Shooters have a future in esports?



I spent a good part of my childhood playing the fuck out of CS 1.6 I wouldnt be here on teamliquid if it wasn't for CS 1.6

Cal fo life.
Ma Jae Yoon #1. The ONLY Maestro. Effort.
Gurgl
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 04:17:12
July 01 2011 03:58 GMT
#139
I'm surprised you didn't push it further with Carmac on the topic of ESL not paying out prizemoney, you just joked away a serious issue like that. I've been hearing from alot of places about people not getting their prizemoney or having to wait a year or so, to me that is something really interesting to hear about.

Surely it must be in ESL's best interest to clear up that issue unless they have something to hide. The fact that it isn't being cleared up makes me wonder if ESL's economy is so messed up they can't pay. Carmac mentioned briefly that sometimes it takes a long time for them to pay and he thought Huk had gotten his prizemoney even though he says he hasn't, like it's no big deal. This whole thing seems like something they are trying to sweep under the carpet, really disappointed that you didn't bring the "no fluff" on that issue.

If Carmac isn't the right guy to talk to about paying out prizemoney then bring on someone who is because that issue is a big deal and people constantly bring it up in forums/newscomments etc. Don't trashtalk CPL and other shitty events while letting something major like this go untalked about.


Here is a nice summary of some Quakeprizes that haven't been paid http://www.playquake.com/columns/2011/06/prizes/ according to this guy.

The best CS team in the world lately, Ukranians NaVi, still haven't received their prize money from IEM S4. This is common knowledge in the CS world.

From the thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=237909&currentpage=29

"I still havnt been paid for the gamescon from last year, or new york" - Liquid`HuK
"Shouldn't the players from the last IEM be paid before you announce a new one? Moonglade is still waiting for his prize money..." - FXOpen

Something tells me this is the tip of an Iceberg :/
zooalt
Profile Joined July 2010
104 Posts
July 05 2011 00:24 GMT
#140
Due to current events, please bring 2gd on.
:>
Some say I'm crazy, I guess I'll always be.
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