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tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
June 21 2011 17:32 GMT
#121
I prefer 3 day tournaments. Have a life to get on with and 1 month or worse 3 month tournaments does nothing for me. Same reason I don't watch NFL/NBA etc. Only way to do 3 day tournaments is BO3s. You have an argument for NASL tho. I hear that thing is like 12 weeks.
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aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
June 21 2011 17:33 GMT
#122
All finals, regardless, should be at least Bo5s.
ImmortalTofu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1254 Posts
June 21 2011 17:37 GMT
#123
I also agree with the OP. After the group stages (which are absolutely beautiful), I think they need to start BO5 and 7's (not extended series), at the ro8, or at LEAST ro4.
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Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
June 21 2011 17:54 GMT
#124
On June 21 2011 20:58 Savern101 wrote:
GSL is easily the worst in terms of commitment to what you get out of it. If you lose first (assuming you've already got into Code A/S) then you can't play again for a month. And you're in Korea. And you've probably already setup accomodation/whatever for that month. It really limits other tournaments you can compete in.


MLG is not single elimination. Its double. But it is all bo3 throughout, I wouldn't be adverse to seeing a change to that for finals, but it would screw up the extended series rule. On top of that, its a tightly run tournament, and has trouble keeping to time anyway.

Also, I think the GSL finals are proof that a bo7 does not = epic games. Some of the best matches in SC2 have been bo3's.


If you're talking in pure monetary value, you're better off getting a job as a maid or whatever anyway.

Most people don't go to Korea and expect to win code S, they go because they want to excel, and think that they can do so quicker in Korea, plus it's one hell of a starcraft experience.
Winning code A isn't that big of a deal anyway.. You win like what? 1500 dollars? I doubt that even covers the plane tickets lmao.

Both DH and MLG are 2-3 day LANs, with already horrible schedules for players. I recall Thorzain saying in his fanclub that he's not going to another MLG as he couldn't even go eat because he had to stick around as at any given time he might have to play.
Bo5 finals should be a must though, I'll give you that, but then again I guess there are no bo5s in Halo so I doubt we'll see that out of MLG.
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JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
June 21 2011 18:08 GMT
#125
yea for the viewers you may want longer series, but its really tiring for the players. go play 20 games in a day and youll feel it too.
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
June 21 2011 18:15 GMT
#126
i pretty much agree with most of comments here. i really wish they were more relevant with the round robin games less relevant. however, the time constraints...well....make it less practical tod o it the way op suggests.
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QurtStarcraft
Profile Joined January 2011
United States162 Posts
June 21 2011 18:16 GMT
#127
At MLG players coming from the open bracket already have to have played tons of games then changing groups to bo5 would be brutal for open bracket players at that tourney.

With this said i believe that bo5 final for dreamhack was a little disappointing for me but that sorta happened with the last MLG where the extended series was used for MMA
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 03:28:10
June 22 2011 03:11 GMT
#128
On June 22 2011 01:15 zaii wrote:
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On June 22 2011 00:55 Rabiator wrote:
On June 21 2011 21:00 GoKu` wrote:
But you have to remember that MLG and Dreamhack are stamina events ...

This argument doesnt count in the case of MLG since they still have their stupid extended series in place, which would - in the unluckiest circumstance - add two more games than a regular Bo3 they could have had played instead. (*1) This is unequal treatment of their players to begin with and should be changed in any case. Just imagine those two extra games being 30+ minute games and you have a delayed schedule of 1 hour (since one other player has to wait - speak: gets an extra break - for his opponent).

Any semifinal should at least be a Bo5 and a final either a Bo7 (single elimination) or a Bo5 (double elimination). Extended series is crap and not justified by any logic.

(*1) One player starts out at 2-0 and the "series" ends at 3-4, that means they played FIVE games instead of a potential THREE for a Bo3.


Extended series prevents players that have a bad overall record against a player they met earlier from advancing/winning. Like what happened to Tyler. He have had a better record against Tasteless overall, but he got knocked out of the tournament, Now that's truly unfair. Extended series gives the player a chance to redeem himself and prove his the better player or he either falls flat on his face.

Extended series unfair? HAH

Being kicked out of a tournament when you have a better or tie record against that certain player... NOW that's unfair!

The player who lost earlier already got "punished" by being in the losers round earlier and having to play more games. Adding another punishment on top of that is fair? Not in my books and it is seriously stupid for any streaming schedule.

One Bo3 doesnt really determine who is a better player from two competitors. Any good player can lose to any other good player depending on the daily form, so all these "better player arguments" are just stupid.

Another argument against extended series is that you arent guaranteed one of those in the finals, but since that is scheduled as Bo3 you might have a totally short and severely disappointing match. So it is a stupid rule because of at least three reasons.
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