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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 14:11:07
July 22 2011 14:10 GMT
#2181
On July 22 2011 23:08 mrbamboo wrote:
The good news is since I had a near 10 point lead and just about everybody in top 50 made like no god damn points this week, I might get to keep #1 spot despite making only 5 points. rofl

I picked IM as a team and WHO THE HELL WOULD EVER EXPECT A 4-0 unless you're like the biggest blind fanboy in the world. All my hatred goes towards IM's B team and the coach right now cause now I'm gonna LOSE points for having IM as a team.
TrueSidewinder
Profile Joined June 2011
United States7 Posts
July 22 2011 14:12 GMT
#2182
On July 22 2011 23:00 MCDayC wrote:
Who actually had QXC on their team? They must feel like bosses now.


The guy tied for 2nd place going into this week has qxc lol. Wish I had his luck.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
July 22 2011 14:14 GMT
#2183
On July 22 2011 23:08 mrbamboo wrote:
The good news is since I had a near 10 point lead and just about everybody in top 50 made like no god damn points this week, I might get to keep #1 spot despite making only 5 points. rofl

new plan, trading for sculp + seal. and then get shuttle + some other random hoseo member. Have Tassadar sage jjakji scult seal shuttle + 1-2 others. Full on NSHs team for their last 2 series.

Profit?

Hm, is that really the best way to go about it? Having multiple players that are on the same team for 2 matches? The way the point system works you'll only get like 1-2 points per player, or a lot of points from 1 player and depending on how the games go, maybe none at all while you invested in trading. Should look at the lineup for the next few weeks and probably just pick 1-2 solid players that you have a feeling will be played.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 22 2011 14:18 GMT
#2184
I'm afraid that I will probably be out of the top 20 after this week. I had a twilight for qxc trade lined up but couldn't pull the trigger
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
July 22 2011 14:28 GMT
#2185
On July 22 2011 23:18 Mattchew wrote:
I'm afraid that I will probably be out of the top 20 after this week. I had a twilight for qxc trade lined up but couldn't pull the trigger

Was thinking whether I should trade for horror or qxc, went with horror
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
July 22 2011 14:28 GMT
#2186
On July 22 2011 23:14 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 23:08 mrbamboo wrote:
The good news is since I had a near 10 point lead and just about everybody in top 50 made like no god damn points this week, I might get to keep #1 spot despite making only 5 points. rofl

new plan, trading for sculp + seal. and then get shuttle + some other random hoseo member. Have Tassadar sage jjakji scult seal shuttle + 1-2 others. Full on NSHs team for their last 2 series.

Profit?

Hm, is that really the best way to go about it? Having multiple players that are on the same team for 2 matches? The way the point system works you'll only get like 1-2 points per player, or a lot of points from 1 player and depending on how the games go, maybe none at all while you invested in trading. Should look at the lineup for the next few weeks and probably just pick 1-2 solid players that you have a feeling will be played.



If you think they will definitely win then think of this way. You pretty much have their whole team. Since they will win both matches, that means

7 players = 14 points just from team win.

they have to have won 8 games together, all distributed across the players you have, so that's 16 points on top. 2 more points because the 2 finishers keep their +1 appearance without the -1 loss.

that's 32 points + any streak breaking bonus.

So all you have to think is like this, whatever other strategy you have, are they gonna make you more than a guaranteed 32 points with those player slots?

Hard to say man. It's been 5 weeks and I've got 76 points total. But I'm rank 1, so I'm not gonna keep getting lucky like that and that number isn't representative of what I could make. Plus I'll still have DRG as my captain which makes up a whopping 17 points of my score. If you go down to top 100 they've made only 50 points or so in 5 weeks, and that's like 30 points without DRG. Most of these have been riding on trading for players and teams that go against FXO (except this week of course). Trading becomes much harder the rest of the series because the game to game value drop is huge.

I don't know. It feels like kind of a reasonable strat for me since my goal isn't to take risks but to just keep making consistent points to stay at the top.
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
July 22 2011 14:32 GMT
#2187
WTF? How? Lol FL trolling, still got about 12 points, so no big compliants.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
July 22 2011 14:40 GMT
#2188
On July 22 2011 23:28 mrbamboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 23:14 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 22 2011 23:08 mrbamboo wrote:
The good news is since I had a near 10 point lead and just about everybody in top 50 made like no god damn points this week, I might get to keep #1 spot despite making only 5 points. rofl

new plan, trading for sculp + seal. and then get shuttle + some other random hoseo member. Have Tassadar sage jjakji scult seal shuttle + 1-2 others. Full on NSHs team for their last 2 series.

Profit?

Hm, is that really the best way to go about it? Having multiple players that are on the same team for 2 matches? The way the point system works you'll only get like 1-2 points per player, or a lot of points from 1 player and depending on how the games go, maybe none at all while you invested in trading. Should look at the lineup for the next few weeks and probably just pick 1-2 solid players that you have a feeling will be played.



If you think they will definitely win then think of this way. You pretty much have their whole team. Since they will win both matches, that means

7 players = 14 points just from team win.

they have to have won 8 games together, all distributed across the players you have, so that's 16 points on top. 2 more points because the 2 finishers keep their +1 appearance without the -1 loss.

that's 32 points + any streak breaking bonus.

So all you have to think is like this, whatever other strategy you have, are they gonna make you more than a guaranteed 32 points with those player slots?

Hard to say man. It's been 5 weeks and I've got 76 points total. But I'm rank 1, so I'm not gonna keep getting lucky like that and that number isn't representative of what I could make. Plus I'll still have DRG as my captain which makes up a whopping 17 points of my score. If you go down to top 100 they've made only 50 points or so in 5 weeks, and that's like 30 points without DRG. Most of these have been riding on trading for players and teams that go against FXO (except this week of course). Trading becomes much harder the rest of the series because the game to game value drop is huge.

I don't know. It feels like kind of a reasonable strat for me since my goal isn't to take risks but to just keep making consistent points to stay at the top.

It's pretty hard to say who will play still for NSHS and I still feel like you're banking a lot on NSHS winning when they still have a pissed off IM team left to go. I think sculp and tassadar will play for sure, jjakji I'm 100% sure is their ace, and sage did well last time but there is no guarantee he will play because they just cannot risk sending him out against a protoss. Sculp and Seal are pretty low point trades so I wouldn't be against it.

Also another criticism of fantasy gstl is that the way the league is formatted trades become too important because different teams play at different times and it becomes really volatile. If you make a bad trade (but you just have to trade if you want points) you might get unlucky and will never be unable to recover by having enough points to trade back.
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
July 22 2011 14:42 GMT
#2189
Well i have qxc on my team, i always believed since watching him in Day9 Friendday Wednesday.
Actually if you watch his stream, you see that his mechanics aren't the strongest but his gamesense and multitasking abilities are incredible.

He got supply blocked so often and didn't macro very well back then - but now he caught up on that. Korea definitively is starting to pay off for him.
the game is the game
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
July 22 2011 15:21 GMT
#2190
With me getting 12 points (i think), mrbamboo around 5 points and sealock having QXC, the top just got very close. It will be interesting to see next week goes. Got to get get some Slayers player for next week.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
July 22 2011 15:56 GMT
#2191
SlayerS is the team whose strategy I found least predictable, gotta respect Cella's work for that. I will not be surprised if Cell has a Chinese-Korean-English trilingral Sun Tzu's Art on his shelf somewhere.

Because of that, I generally avoid SlayerS players, especially there aces. I think so far, that strategy has paid off. At the same time, your results show that you have the secret sause in trading that I don't get, so how do you plan to approach slayers?
Thank God and gunrun.
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 16:07:05
July 22 2011 16:01 GMT
#2192
Man, I had moonan as my FXO player.

Had Huk since week 1! Might trade him now due to his interview questions and not being around for much more GTSL.

On a 2nd note, I have MVP... why not reverse all kill! (As much as I want to see FXO win, not helping my fantasy!)
Mangix
Profile Joined June 2011
United States115 Posts
July 22 2011 16:15 GMT
#2193
On July 23 2011 01:01 Sufinsil wrote:
Man, I had moonan as my FXO player.

Had Huk since week 1! Might trade him now due to his interview questions and not being around for much more GTSL.

On a 2nd note, I have MVP... why not reverse all kill! (As much as I want to see FXO win, not helping my fantasy!)



Why wont Huk be around is he visiting his family or something?
Icectar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States99 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 16:47:42
July 22 2011 16:44 GMT
#2194
wtf.......I went to sleep tonight expecting a total demolishing of FXO by IM, and I wake up to see this?!?! A reverse all-kill?!?! So mad right now, who the heck were half the players IM sent out? Only guy i knew was MVP.....
so basically, i gain nothing because although Tassadar got me two points (played, won, lost, team won), IM gave it all away -_-

I also just realized that FXO would now have the same number of points as IM. fml......only good thing that came out of this was that I traded Happy for sC beforehand.
"You can always tell someone to go to Hell tomorrow."
hi_0
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada249 Posts
July 22 2011 16:50 GMT
#2195
When will they update the points from this week? I'm getting a bunch from NSH win, MC win, Tassadar win, QXC all kill :D. I feel dumb for trading huk now too, oh well.
1st_Panzer_Div.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States621 Posts
July 22 2011 17:00 GMT
#2196
YEAH!!! I just saw the results today, and I had QXC on my team. At first I thought it was a joke on the results tab. But no, QXC is a baller.
Manager, Team RIP ZeeZ
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
July 22 2011 17:01 GMT
#2197
YAH BEST PICKUP OF QXC EVER. now to trade off all fxo players >.< sigh can't even get anyone for sheth now =(
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
RHMVNovus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
July 22 2011 17:02 GMT
#2198
On July 22 2011 23:00 MCDayC wrote:
Who actually had QXC on their team? They must feel like bosses now.

Trolololololo. I do indeed feel like a boss. Now if I can trade for an F.United player, I can troll all the way to the bank.

Given that I just this week traded for HuK and picked FXOpen in Liquibet? I really need to get a lottery ticket.
Droning his sorrows in massive amounts of macro
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 22 2011 17:04 GMT
#2199
On July 23 2011 01:15 Mangix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 01:01 Sufinsil wrote:
Man, I had moonan as my FXO player.

Had Huk since week 1! Might trade him now due to his interview questions and not being around for much more GTSL.

On a 2nd note, I have MVP... why not reverse all kill! (As much as I want to see FXO win, not helping my fantasy!)



Why wont Huk be around is he visiting his family or something?


MLG/Assembly and something else I think. So he's away for 3 weeks or so. -
AmICool
Profile Joined June 2011
Bulgaria15 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 17:36:04
July 22 2011 17:09 GMT
#2200
The good part is everyone who has gained points from qxc will be left with him till the end of the season

So not sure if it was worth it , but still its nice - 8 points
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