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Korea (South)33 Posts
Hello TL.Net
I am Mr.Chae from GOMTV
We would like to present you the detailed information and schedule of the GSTL which will start on June 23rd.
First, we want to thank team FXO for making a decision to come to Korea to partake in the GSTL and we are looking to provide opportunities to any foreign teams that are looking to participate in the future GSTL.
In addition, thanks to the League Exchange Program with MLG, 3 pro-gamers who received Code A seeds will join forces with WeMadeFOX and participate in the GSTL as a new team.
Thus a total of 12 teams are going to be divided into two groups to compete against each other.
GSTL will be broadcasted twice a week, on Thursday and Friday. Groups that play on Thursdays will be in the Jupiter league and groups that play on Fridays will be in the Venus league. In Korea, Thursday is called the day of Jupiter and Friday is called the day of Venus hence our reason for giving the leagues such names.
Our expectations are high for the new GSTL which will now be a regular league. We hope you show a lot of support for the new GSTL and we want to express our appreciation for the team FXO and the players once again for making such a big decision to participate in the upcoming GSTL.
You can find the detailed information and schedule below:
http://www.gomtv.net/2011super1/news/65543
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More foreigners and 12 teams? Wow, I'm excited. We won't have to worry about no IM or anything this time, should be great!
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Awesome, thanks Mr. Chae! This looks to be great, can't wait to see more ^^
1 more besides Nani and Thorzain, rock!
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On June 14 2011 12:02 StimiLant wrote:
Thank you Mr. Chae ^^
Uncle Chae always brings the best presents 
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Super excited. Its so many games!
Edit: Holy shit I missed Naniwa and Thorzain even more excited now!
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Thank you Mr. Chae. The GSL is getting better every season. You're doing a great job!
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THORZAIN
AND
NANIWA?
Who's the third? Its not on the website.
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rooting for fxo although i don't think they will get that far xD
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I wonder if them putting the "foreigner" teams against each other in the first round was intentional, since it means that we're guaranteed to get more chances to see them play.
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wow, thats cool. good idea since i guess wemade doesn't have enough sc players with only moon/lyn. can't wait to see how they plus fxo do.
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So F.United is Moon, Lyn, Naniwa, Thorzain, and who else?
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On June 14 2011 12:05 corpuscle wrote:
I wonder if them putting the "foreigner" teams against each other in the first round was intentional, since it means that we're guaranteed to get more chances to see them play.
They aren't against each other. They are in different divisions.
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On June 14 2011 12:05 ch33psh33p wrote:
THORZAIN
AND
NANIWA?
Who's the third? Its not on the website.
I think Fenix is the next in line to be invited, but he may not accept. I suspect the third invite for Code A will end up going to Sheth, who obviously can't participate in the United team.
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Is Sase playing for F.United?
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The GSTL just got better and better.
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Wooooooooooow. So we have Moon, Nani, Thorzain, Lyn, and at least 1 more on a team.
Okay, that thread where people posted their biggest SC2 nerdchills? Yeah, I need to change my answer. I'm SO fucking HYPED right now.
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my man chae bringin home the cookies
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On June 14 2011 12:07 ch33psh33p wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 12:05 corpuscle wrote:
I wonder if them putting the "foreigner" teams against each other in the first round was intentional, since it means that we're guaranteed to get more chances to see them play. They aren't against each other. They are in different divisions.
Oh, I read it completely wrong, I'm an idiot.
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It is great to see Incredible Miracle in the GSTL again.
And there is the possibility of having a SlayerS vs IM finals :D
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On June 14 2011 12:02 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:
More foreigners and 12 teams? Wow, I'm excited. We won't have to worry about no IM or anything this time, should be great!
So much this. =)
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49986 Posts
On June 14 2011 12:14 GreenStim wrote:
It is great to see Incredible Miracle in the GSTL again.
And there is the possibility of having a SlayerS vs IM finals :D
we'll see since the GSTL is now about 3 months long.
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sounds awesome. will it hq/vods cost extra or will it be included as part of the GSL July package?
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I am SO pumped! I find GSTL more fun to watch than individual leagues (same with Pro League in SC1). This format sounds sweet!
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WeMadeFox also has Soccer, a Protoss player and another former War3 player on their team.
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wemadfox? the house is sick good
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Right, Sase is joining them, so that means hes the 3rd.
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Ahhhhh. This is so sick, I was excited about the teamleague before but now I'm so hyped for it :D
Really Excited to see who the third invitee is.
Plenty of foreigners in the team league now. Going to be so cool seeing the season pan ouT, wonder if there is going to be any teams laying down domination!
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so excited for it to start
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what da!! NANIWA THORZaiN in CODE A?!!
Team F.United = WeMadeFOX + dignitas.NaNiwa + mouz.ThorZaIN
sick good!
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"3 pro-gamers who received Code A seeds will join forces with WeMadeFOX and participate in the GSTL as a new team."
Is that implying that one of the 4 invites (counting the one from the Rakaka thing) was from FXO?
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Sheth all kill incoming..
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This is SOOOOO exciting. I can't wait for GSTL. I hope this season makes me forget about Proleague altogether. Actually no. I never want to forget Proleague, but I hope this impacts me just as much.
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Also one question that I feel is relevant is the prize money increasing and by how much? :D
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This is going to be awesome team league was already sick. This is going to be huge especially if they can win a couple games. Love the new schedule as well the one and done was worse imo.
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i'm excited, but i wish each team plays every other team during the regular season, like in Proleague.
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Really nice! The team league format is great, I think I finally have to buy a GSL pass
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rly awesome
cant wait for this tournament to start
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Huge fan of the new format.
Hopefully it continues to deliver some of the best storylines / games the sc2 has offered so far
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at least 10 weeks of pure epicness ^^
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YES YES YES HAVENT BEEN THIS HAPPY SINCE
since...
man my life has been shitty. BUT NOW ITS ALL RAINBOWS CAUSE THORZAIN AND NANI ARE IN GSL YAYAYAYAY
+Huk and jinro and slayers ofc :D
edit: mr chae i love you
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F. United is a really good initiative!!
Just wondering if Naniwa and Thorzain will elect to stay if they get eliminated from Code A, and the ramifications for F. United if they leave. I guess it'll likely just be a rolling team with the FOX players and whoever the new batch of foreign invites + those staying will be.
Hope GOM or WeMadeFOX have contingencies in place to deal with such an event though, but otherwise really nice that we see a even number of teams so that the league won't seem odd.
EDIT: This includes recruiting more "Warcraft 3"  players to their lineup.
2nd EDIT:
Wonder if SaSe will also be recruited to join F United.
If Sheth ends up being the 3rd MLG seed, does this mean that F United only has 5 players?
Any information on the actual match format? I assume since it's not stated, it'll be the Winners League style (winner stays, all-kill format?)
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Just curious who is the third foreigner with the code A seed?
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Fantastic decisions! Can't wait!
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I wonder if Nani/Thorzain are going to live with Moon/Lyn in the WMF house?
Here is a video tour of it:
+ Show Spoiler +
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one of the greatest news i ever read :')
moon ,naniwa, thorzain and lyn <3 can't wait
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Mr. Chae being a total boss. thank you! I cant wait!
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I just realized depending on who the last member is...so far this is an all former warcraft 3 team! :D
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On June 14 2011 12:15 Phaded wrote:
sounds awesome. will it hq/vods cost extra or will it be included as part of the GSL July package?
Same question. Any information on the cost yet?
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Really good news! Now I'm looking forward to the GSTL more than Dreamhack, MLG, or GSL. I'm very glad that the TSL finalists decided to take the invites, instead of it going to someone who can't compete with Koreans.
I also like the way they changed the GSTL points system. So there's no IM missing this time =)
I don't know if it was intentional, but the way they split up the foreigner teams was really nice. The half foreigner, half FOX team is in the same division as OGS/TL, so together they almost make a foreigner team to balance out FXO in the other division.
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This is pretty badass. Naniwa and Thorzain!! So excited for the new GSTL, I didn't buy passes for them before because they were so short. Awesome to see how GSTL is shaping up these days though, I'll never miss it again!
Thanks Mr. Chae and great job, GomTV!
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Group A is pretty stacked.
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On June 14 2011 12:34 kNightLite wrote:
I don't know if it was intentional, but the way they split up the foreigner teams was really nice. The half foreigner, half FOX team is in the same division as OGS/TL, so together they almost make a foreigner team to balance out FXO in the other division.
On paper yes, but with Top, Supernova, Nada, and MC on ogs ot's unlikely we'll ever get to see Jinro or Huk play in the gstl.
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On June 14 2011 12:38 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 12:34 kNightLite wrote:
I don't know if it was intentional, but the way they split up the foreigner teams was really nice. The half foreigner, half FOX team is in the same division as OGS/TL, so together they almost make a foreigner team to balance out FXO in the other division. On paper yes, but with Top, Supernova, Nada, and MC on ogs ot's unlikely we'll ever get to see Jinro or Huk play in the gstl.
Yep. If we see Jinro or Huk, it'll be because they were told to train as snipers for a specific match up, they are far too inconsistent for general play.
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ZOmg will be so epic cant wait to see this
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HAHA!!
Great !
Mr.Chae <3
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Come on FXO and F.United!
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I am SO excited for team league. It has consistently produced some of the most amazing matches with alot of personality behind them.
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I saw the schedule on the gomtv website and thought of MVP as the player, not the team, lol
They should have the "V" lowercase or something to help distinguish the two.
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Awesome news! Three months of consecutive GSTL make me a happy happy man
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Extremely excited about this. Hope they show us some great games!
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Man this is awesome! I wish it was a more round robin style with all teams playing all others, but I suppose this gives the weaker teams a fighting chance at advancing.
My picks for the playoffs:
Jupiter group: SlayerS, oGs, F.United (F*CK YEAAAA)
Venus group: IM, Startale, fOu
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United States23455 Posts
Jupiter Division is stacked. Venus is going to be absolutely dominated by IM and Startale.
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oGs can draw off Jinro and HuK, so that's cool.
Interesting system: wemade has to play the foreigners, so that will be interesting.
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been waiting for a high profile team league like this for so long yess
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Naniwa and Thorzain are probably better than Huk and Jinro so they will be good foreign representatives.
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On June 14 2011 12:38 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 12:34 kNightLite wrote:
I don't know if it was intentional, but the way they split up the foreigner teams was really nice. The half foreigner, half FOX team is in the same division as OGS/TL, so together they almost make a foreigner team to balance out FXO in the other division. On paper yes, but with Top, Supernova, Nada, and MC on ogs ot's unlikely we'll ever get to see Jinro or Huk play in the gstl.
True, but lets be honest. Anything would be better than Torch benchwarming Startale.
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Why is FXO only playing for week 1 - week 5, and F.United playing only for week 6 - week 10? Is there any schedule conflict?
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Awesome news! I don't know about many other players other than moon from wemade.fox. But with naniwa and thorzain on their team, i think there will be some freakin awesome games.
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The GSTL is going to be considered its own league with its own pricing right? I originally had the idea that the it would be part of the main league (jn terms of pricing and such), however that now seems to be untrue.
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Also I just noticed that F.United's acronym is F U.
Maybe that wasn't the best name for them =/
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On June 14 2011 12:54 kNightLite wrote:
Also I just noticed that F.United's acronym is F U.
Maybe that wasn't the best name for them =/
it can be their rallying cry. GO F UUUUUU
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On June 14 2011 12:54 kNightLite wrote:
Also I just noticed that F.United's acronym is F U.
Maybe that wasn't the best name for them =/ Or perhaps.. it's the greatest? =O
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HYPE HYPE
Dis gon' be good.
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F. United?
Isn't that how most Premier League fans feel all of the time?
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F.U in Jupiter
fOu in Venus
If these two teams ever meet up somewhere in the playoffs, it'll be a battle between two ballin ragefaces.
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Group A seems to be harder but we'll see.
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F.United is such an awesome name.
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United States23455 Posts
F.United is probably for Fox/Foreigner United.
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This is fantastic and I totally support it.
What does the "F" in "F United" stand for? Foreigners? Fox? Just kind of an F, united?
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F.United is my new favourite team by name default. Fucking.Fox.Foreigners.United.
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Btw guys, isn't it like awesome that we get to kick off the GSTL with a rematch from the last GSTL finals (MVP vs SlayerS).
On June 14 2011 12:52 Tanatos wrote:
Why is FXO only playing for week 1 - week 5, and F.United playing only for week 6 - week 10? Is there any schedule conflict?
EDIT: Just read the news post again... I guess Naniwa and Thorzain will not be in the next GSL (July) but the one after that (August).
This does make a case for MMA to get a Code S seed though, since GSL August will be able to accommodate the MLG winner (then shift the Anaheim winner to the next GSL - October)
Hoping MLG/GSL clarify this.
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On June 14 2011 12:58 Ribbon wrote:
This is fantastic and I totally support it.
What does the "F" in "F United" stand for? Foreigners? Fox? Just kind of an F, united?
F stand for fuck. Cause this is fucking exciting.
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poor naniwa and torzain they gotta eed to carry moon and lyn trough the gstl 
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Wow, foreigners into code A! And the expanded GSTL format! It keeps getting better and better
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F.United, I have to say I laughed at this name for a moment.
Anyway, really nice improvement. Hope GSTL can attract more and more viewers and help the team to compete with each other.
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On June 14 2011 12:55 Freak705 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 12:54 kNightLite wrote:
Also I just noticed that F.United's acronym is F U.
Maybe that wasn't the best name for them =/ Or perhaps.. it's the greatest? =O
I'm honestly torn on that point. I'll have to sleep on it.
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On June 14 2011 12:53 Adsee wrote:
The GSTL is going to be considered its own league with its own pricing right? I originally had the idea that the it would be part of the main league (jn terms of pricing and such), however that now seems to be untrue.
I was also wondering the same thing. I tried searching for some info, but couldn't find much. Does anyone know whether Code A/S will be priced separately from the GSTL?
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I hope that FXO does well, GSL fighting!
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So happy that my favourite broodwar team We.MadeFox will finally be in SC2.
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But I fear that there maybe problem in prize and financial distribution in F.United cause there are 3 teams in it.
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Best of luck to FXO! This will be great to watch, will SlayerS pull it off again!
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But.. who's gonna play for WeMadeFOX other than Moon, Lyn, Soccer, Naniwa and Thorzain? They won't even have enough players if they get to the finals.
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On June 14 2011 13:06 Hazu~ wrote:
But.. who's gonna play for WeMadeFOX other than Moon, Lyn, Soccer, Naniwa and Thorzain? They won't even have enough players if they get to the finals.
Top 4 foreigners from MLG Anaheim?
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On June 14 2011 13:07 last.resistance wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 13:06 Hazu~ wrote:
But.. who's gonna play for WeMadeFOX other than Moon, Lyn, Soccer, Naniwa and Thorzain? They won't even have enough players if they get to the finals. Top 4 foreigners from MLG Anaheim?
GSTL starts on June 23rd.
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Side track a bit, anyone knows whether Moon and Lyn have switched to full time SC2 or they still part-timers.
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Lord_J
Kenya1085 Posts
On June 14 2011 13:00 pdd wrote:
Btw guys, isn't it like awesome that we get to kick off the GSTL with a rematch from the last GSTL finals (MVP vs SlayerS).
Yes, it is awesome.
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On June 14 2011 13:08 Hazu~ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 13:07 last.resistance wrote:On June 14 2011 13:06 Hazu~ wrote:
But.. who's gonna play for WeMadeFOX other than Moon, Lyn, Soccer, Naniwa and Thorzain? They won't even have enough players if they get to the finals. Top 4 foreigners from MLG Anaheim? GSTL starts on June 23rd.
Look at the schedule of when F.United is playing. They don't play until the 6th week. Finals aren't until the end of August.
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I'm so excited for this, especially love the announcement that Naniwa and Thorzain (and one other?) will join up with WeMadeFox and compete. Will be so great to see them get to play in team league as well.
Thank you so much Mr. Chae! Didn't realize this was coming up so soon, can't wait for it to start :-)
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In light of my sudden realization of some details of the new announcements (Naniwa and Thorzain only going to GSL in August) these questions need to be clarified. I'm guessing they're working on the details now considering:
1. Will GSL July proceed as normal with only 1 invitation being given to SaSe?
2. If the 3rd place seed goes to Sheth, will he be able to use it for the July Code A as his team will be there during that period or will he be forced to take it in August to keep things consistent?
3. Since the seeds are being pushed back a season, does MMA get a Code S seed since GSL August can accommodate the MLG winner?
If anyone can answer now, it'll be great. Otherwise, I'll wait patiently for the answer. Either way really great to hear.
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On June 14 2011 13:06 Hazu~ wrote:
But.. who's gonna play for WeMadeFOX other than Moon, Lyn, Soccer, Naniwa and Thorzain? They won't even have enough players if they get to the finals.
I believe they have sase as well from that swedish tournament. Plus there is the 3rd foreigner that is joining them as well... so there should be 6 in total.
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Anyway next time please invite some Chinese or Taiwanese player, I have seen some of their leagues and wow their SC2 scenes are huge and tons of talented players.
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This is so exciting... GSTL was always the best league and now it's on twice a week.
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On June 14 2011 13:13 DoomsVille wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 13:06 Hazu~ wrote:
But.. who's gonna play for WeMadeFOX other than Moon, Lyn, Soccer, Naniwa and Thorzain? They won't even have enough players if they get to the finals. I believe they have sase as well from that swedish tournament. Plus there is the 3rd foreigner that is joining them as well... so there should be 6 in total.
Actually if you look at the schedules, it seems that SaSe probably won't join the team, unless he stays for 2 seasons. This is because he's going to be going in GSL July (although this hasn't really been confirmed in light of the recent arrangement.
Quoting from the MLG announcement: "Dignitas.Naniwa and MouzThorzain will be competing in GSL Code A August and will also participate in the August GSTL"
It looks like GSL are pushing back the MLG seeds 1 season to accommodate Naniwa and Thorzain's schedule.
Which leads to the third seed. The MLG announcement says that the player has accepted his seed but they haven't announced it yet. I'm just speculating, but could it be that this player is Sheth and the reason they're not announcing him yet is that they want to work out the details of his seed?
Does he get seeded into GSL July (since FXO play then)? Or does he get seeded into GSL August (since the other seeds are going that month)?
Definitely should wait on more details, but it's just interesting, as if they push back the seeds by 1 season, it should make a spot available for the winner of MLG Columbus to get the Code S seed in GSL August (and the winner of Anaheim takes the seed in GSL October). *shrug*
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What format will they play? Winner league or fixed set?
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Nice, but I already have some criticism:
- F.United doesnt play till week 6? That's one and a half months wait.
- Group A is stacked while group B is super weak
- Why can't all teams play each other like in Proleague? (rather see more GSTL than GSL).
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On June 14 2011 13:24 Highways wrote:
Nice, but I already have some criticism:
- F.United doesnt play till week 6? That's one and a half months wait.
- Group A is stacked while group B is super weak
- Why can't all teams play each other like in Proleague? (rather see more GSTL than GSL).
1) Probably because they want to give Nani/Thorzain/whoever a chance to get to korea, settle in and get a chance to really get to know their teammates a bit before forcing them to compete.
2) What can you do... they ranked every team and placed them accordingly... not much GSL can do about who gets placed where.
3) Kind of want to see this too. But I guess they don't want it to run forever. Especially since they can only broadcast twice a week.
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Wow Korea does that with the names too?
That's interesting, cus in spanish we learned that the spanish names for days were also based on the planets
Edit:
Oh the third player will probably be Slush, they might not be announcing yet maybe cus Slush is undecided? (slush got the furthest if you look at the brackets, slightly ahead of ret and haypro)
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On June 14 2011 13:06 Hazu~ wrote:
But.. who's gonna play for WeMadeFOX other than Moon, Lyn, Soccer, Naniwa and Thorzain? They won't even have enough players if they get to the finals.
They can always use mercenaries.
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On June 14 2011 13:24 Highways wrote:
Nice, but I already have some criticism:
- F.United doesnt play till week 6? That's one and a half months wait.
- Group A is stacked while group B is super weak
- Why can't all teams play each other like in Proleague? (rather see more GSTL than GSL).
1) This schedule was clearly made so that Naniwa and Thorzain do not have to go to Korea for another month and a half (since they have other events coming up that would conflict with them being able to play in the GSTL at all if they had to be there a month and a half earlier.
2) This is unfortunate, but it was clearly not intentional as it was based off seeding, and at least it means we will get to see the members of F.United go up against the very best in Korea week in and week out.
3) There's simply too many teams for that to happen. This is the best way. Besides, the best 3 teams from each division have a chance to meet each other in the playoffs anyway.
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On June 14 2011 13:21 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 13:13 DoomsVille wrote:On June 14 2011 13:06 Hazu~ wrote:
But.. who's gonna play for WeMadeFOX other than Moon, Lyn, Soccer, Naniwa and Thorzain? They won't even have enough players if they get to the finals. I believe they have sase as well from that swedish tournament. Plus there is the 3rd foreigner that is joining them as well... so there should be 6 in total. Actually if you look at the schedules, it seems that SaSe probably won't join the team, unless he stays for 2 seasons. This is because he's going to be going in GSL July (although this hasn't really been confirmed in light of the recent arrangement. Quoting from the MLG announcement: "Dignitas.Naniwa and MouzThorzain will be competing in GSL Code A August and will also participate in the August GSTL" It looks like GSL are pushing back the MLG seeds 1 season to accommodate Naniwa and Thorzain's schedule. Which leads to the third seed. The MLG announcement says that the player has accepted his seed but they haven't announced it yet. I'm just speculating, but could it be that this player is Sheth and the reason they're not announcing him yet is that they want to work out the details of his seed? Does he get seeded into GSL July (since FXO play then)? Or does he get seeded into GSL August (since the other seeds are going that month)? Definitely should wait on more details, but it's just interesting, as if they push back the seeds by 1 season, it should make a spot available for the winner of MLG Columbus to get the Code S seed in GSL August (and the winner of Anaheim takes the seed in GSL October). *shrug*
Ignoring both of our speculation... don't you think GSL would confirm that they have enough players willing to participate before letting them in or making this annoucement?
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Awesome, awesome. Raises a few questions though:
How much will the season ticket cost?
Who's going to be casting?
Who is the 3rd Code A invitation going to?
Why is the schedule so odd looking? It makes for very odd, unbalanced schedule requirements for the teams...
can't wait!
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On June 14 2011 13:31 DoomsVille wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 13:21 pdd wrote:On June 14 2011 13:13 DoomsVille wrote:On June 14 2011 13:06 Hazu~ wrote:
But.. who's gonna play for WeMadeFOX other than Moon, Lyn, Soccer, Naniwa and Thorzain? They won't even have enough players if they get to the finals. I believe they have sase as well from that swedish tournament. Plus there is the 3rd foreigner that is joining them as well... so there should be 6 in total. Actually if you look at the schedules, it seems that SaSe probably won't join the team, unless he stays for 2 seasons. This is because he's going to be going in GSL July (although this hasn't really been confirmed in light of the recent arrangement. Quoting from the MLG announcement: "Dignitas.Naniwa and MouzThorzain will be competing in GSL Code A August and will also participate in the August GSTL" It looks like GSL are pushing back the MLG seeds 1 season to accommodate Naniwa and Thorzain's schedule. Which leads to the third seed. The MLG announcement says that the player has accepted his seed but they haven't announced it yet. I'm just speculating, but could it be that this player is Sheth and the reason they're not announcing him yet is that they want to work out the details of his seed? Does he get seeded into GSL July (since FXO play then)? Or does he get seeded into GSL August (since the other seeds are going that month)? Definitely should wait on more details, but it's just interesting, as if they push back the seeds by 1 season, it should make a spot available for the winner of MLG Columbus to get the Code S seed in GSL August (and the winner of Anaheim takes the seed in GSL October). *shrug* Ignoring both of our speculation... don't you think GSL would confirm that they have enough players willing to participate before letting them in or making this annoucement?
Don't really get what exactly you're referring to, but even with 5 players on F. United, they should be able to play even the Bo9 finals (although there was an 8 player limit before, which probably was relaxed for them). You only need 5 players in the finals, which is the bare minimum. I would guess GSL are trying to get that number to increase though.
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6 is not enought. 9 people needed in final
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On June 14 2011 12:32 DoomsVille wrote:I wonder if Nani/Thorzain are going to live with Moon/Lyn in the WMF house? Here is a video tour of it: + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1pLV5KyvQM
Wow, now that's a nice place! :O
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YES GSTL is the most exciting format of competition atm, making it a more regular thing can only mean it'll be awesome!!
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On June 14 2011 13:36 namedplayer wrote:
6 is not enought. 9 people needed in final
No. GSL uses the winners stay/all-kill format for their team leagues and have not made any announcements that they're changing it so 5 is enough in the Bo9 finals. See GSTL 1, 2 and 3 finals and count how many players played for each team.
And even if they changed it to the Proleague style, usually you only need 8 players, with the 9th match being an Ace match allowing you to repick another player to play again.
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On June 14 2011 13:35 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 13:31 DoomsVille wrote:On June 14 2011 13:21 pdd wrote:On June 14 2011 13:13 DoomsVille wrote:On June 14 2011 13:06 Hazu~ wrote:
But.. who's gonna play for WeMadeFOX other than Moon, Lyn, Soccer, Naniwa and Thorzain? They won't even have enough players if they get to the finals. I believe they have sase as well from that swedish tournament. Plus there is the 3rd foreigner that is joining them as well... so there should be 6 in total. Actually if you look at the schedules, it seems that SaSe probably won't join the team, unless he stays for 2 seasons. This is because he's going to be going in GSL July (although this hasn't really been confirmed in light of the recent arrangement. Quoting from the MLG announcement: "Dignitas.Naniwa and MouzThorzain will be competing in GSL Code A August and will also participate in the August GSTL" It looks like GSL are pushing back the MLG seeds 1 season to accommodate Naniwa and Thorzain's schedule. Which leads to the third seed. The MLG announcement says that the player has accepted his seed but they haven't announced it yet. I'm just speculating, but could it be that this player is Sheth and the reason they're not announcing him yet is that they want to work out the details of his seed? Does he get seeded into GSL July (since FXO play then)? Or does he get seeded into GSL August (since the other seeds are going that month)? Definitely should wait on more details, but it's just interesting, as if they push back the seeds by 1 season, it should make a spot available for the winner of MLG Columbus to get the Code S seed in GSL August (and the winner of Anaheim takes the seed in GSL October). *shrug* Ignoring both of our speculation... don't you think GSL would confirm that they have enough players willing to participate before letting them in or making this annoucement? Don't really get what exactly you're referring to, but even with 5 players on F. United, they should be able to play even the Bo9 finals (although there was an 8 player limit before, which probably was relaxed for them). You only need 5 players in the finals, which is the bare minimum. I would guess GSL are trying to get that number to increase though.
But they wouldn't without Sase or whoever is the 3rd player...
Soccer doesn't really play SC2 so they are only left with 4. There has to be atleast 1 more player joining them.
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I hope Thorzain's GSL team does well in this coming GSTL.
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On June 14 2011 13:40 DoomsVille wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 13:35 pdd wrote:On June 14 2011 13:31 DoomsVille wrote:On June 14 2011 13:21 pdd wrote:On June 14 2011 13:13 DoomsVille wrote:On June 14 2011 13:06 Hazu~ wrote:
But.. who's gonna play for WeMadeFOX other than Moon, Lyn, Soccer, Naniwa and Thorzain? They won't even have enough players if they get to the finals. I believe they have sase as well from that swedish tournament. Plus there is the 3rd foreigner that is joining them as well... so there should be 6 in total. Actually if you look at the schedules, it seems that SaSe probably won't join the team, unless he stays for 2 seasons. This is because he's going to be going in GSL July (although this hasn't really been confirmed in light of the recent arrangement. Quoting from the MLG announcement: "Dignitas.Naniwa and MouzThorzain will be competing in GSL Code A August and will also participate in the August GSTL" It looks like GSL are pushing back the MLG seeds 1 season to accommodate Naniwa and Thorzain's schedule. Which leads to the third seed. The MLG announcement says that the player has accepted his seed but they haven't announced it yet. I'm just speculating, but could it be that this player is Sheth and the reason they're not announcing him yet is that they want to work out the details of his seed? Does he get seeded into GSL July (since FXO play then)? Or does he get seeded into GSL August (since the other seeds are going that month)? Definitely should wait on more details, but it's just interesting, as if they push back the seeds by 1 season, it should make a spot available for the winner of MLG Columbus to get the Code S seed in GSL August (and the winner of Anaheim takes the seed in GSL October). *shrug* Ignoring both of our speculation... don't you think GSL would confirm that they have enough players willing to participate before letting them in or making this annoucement? Don't really get what exactly you're referring to, but even with 5 players on F. United, they should be able to play even the Bo9 finals (although there was an 8 player limit before, which probably was relaxed for them). You only need 5 players in the finals, which is the bare minimum. I would guess GSL are trying to get that number to increase though. But they wouldn't without Sase or whoever is the 3rd player... Soccer doesn't really play SC2 so they are only left with 4. There has to be atleast 1 more player joining them.
Soccer does play SC2. He tried to qualify for the last GSL. Ironically lost to Moon in the second last round before Moon himself lost to TopClassfOu. I remember, because I was compiling information for the live updates for the qualifier thread. (Don't ask me how I remember these stuff).
EDIT: Also, WMF could start recruiting for their "Warcraft 3 (read: SC2)" team to expand it and if SaSe was joining the team, I think GSL would have announced it.
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Is it me or is group A seem more stacked?
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On June 14 2011 13:41 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 13:40 DoomsVille wrote:On June 14 2011 13:35 pdd wrote:On June 14 2011 13:31 DoomsVille wrote:On June 14 2011 13:21 pdd wrote:On June 14 2011 13:13 DoomsVille wrote:On June 14 2011 13:06 Hazu~ wrote:
But.. who's gonna play for WeMadeFOX other than Moon, Lyn, Soccer, Naniwa and Thorzain? They won't even have enough players if they get to the finals. I believe they have sase as well from that swedish tournament. Plus there is the 3rd foreigner that is joining them as well... so there should be 6 in total. Actually if you look at the schedules, it seems that SaSe probably won't join the team, unless he stays for 2 seasons. This is because he's going to be going in GSL July (although this hasn't really been confirmed in light of the recent arrangement. Quoting from the MLG announcement: "Dignitas.Naniwa and MouzThorzain will be competing in GSL Code A August and will also participate in the August GSTL" It looks like GSL are pushing back the MLG seeds 1 season to accommodate Naniwa and Thorzain's schedule. Which leads to the third seed. The MLG announcement says that the player has accepted his seed but they haven't announced it yet. I'm just speculating, but could it be that this player is Sheth and the reason they're not announcing him yet is that they want to work out the details of his seed? Does he get seeded into GSL July (since FXO play then)? Or does he get seeded into GSL August (since the other seeds are going that month)? Definitely should wait on more details, but it's just interesting, as if they push back the seeds by 1 season, it should make a spot available for the winner of MLG Columbus to get the Code S seed in GSL August (and the winner of Anaheim takes the seed in GSL October). *shrug* Ignoring both of our speculation... don't you think GSL would confirm that they have enough players willing to participate before letting them in or making this annoucement? Don't really get what exactly you're referring to, but even with 5 players on F. United, they should be able to play even the Bo9 finals (although there was an 8 player limit before, which probably was relaxed for them). You only need 5 players in the finals, which is the bare minimum. I would guess GSL are trying to get that number to increase though. But they wouldn't without Sase or whoever is the 3rd player... Soccer doesn't really play SC2 so they are only left with 4. There has to be atleast 1 more player joining them. Soccer does play SC2. He tried to qualify for the last GSL. Ironically lost to Moon in the second last round before Moon himself lost to TopClassfOu. I remember, because I was compiling information for the live updates for the qualifier thread. (Don't ask me how I remember these stuff). EDIT: Also, WMF could start recruiting for their "Warcraft 3 (read: SC2)" team to expand it and if SaSe was joining the team, I think GSL would have announced it.
Ah I thought he gave up on SC2 a while ago. He's been pretty active in the WC3 world the last few months. I guess he must be splitting his time...
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On June 14 2011 13:39 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 13:36 namedplayer wrote:
6 is not enought. 9 people needed in final No. GSL uses the winners stay/all-kill format for their team leagues and have not made any announcements that they're changing it so 5 is enough in the Bo9 finals. See GSTL 1, 2 and 3 finals and count how many players played for each team. And even if they changed it to the Proleague style, usually you only need 8 players, with the 9th match being an Ace match allowing you to repick another player to play again.
He was talking about teams into the playoffs, but your rejection was still spot-on.
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mr chae still doesnt have his own special baller status icon?
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On June 14 2011 13:47 DoomsVille wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 13:41 pdd wrote:On June 14 2011 13:40 DoomsVille wrote:On June 14 2011 13:35 pdd wrote:On June 14 2011 13:31 DoomsVille wrote:On June 14 2011 13:21 pdd wrote:On June 14 2011 13:13 DoomsVille wrote:On June 14 2011 13:06 Hazu~ wrote:
But.. who's gonna play for WeMadeFOX other than Moon, Lyn, Soccer, Naniwa and Thorzain? They won't even have enough players if they get to the finals. I believe they have sase as well from that swedish tournament. Plus there is the 3rd foreigner that is joining them as well... so there should be 6 in total. Actually if you look at the schedules, it seems that SaSe probably won't join the team, unless he stays for 2 seasons. This is because he's going to be going in GSL July (although this hasn't really been confirmed in light of the recent arrangement. Quoting from the MLG announcement: "Dignitas.Naniwa and MouzThorzain will be competing in GSL Code A August and will also participate in the August GSTL" It looks like GSL are pushing back the MLG seeds 1 season to accommodate Naniwa and Thorzain's schedule. Which leads to the third seed. The MLG announcement says that the player has accepted his seed but they haven't announced it yet. I'm just speculating, but could it be that this player is Sheth and the reason they're not announcing him yet is that they want to work out the details of his seed? Does he get seeded into GSL July (since FXO play then)? Or does he get seeded into GSL August (since the other seeds are going that month)? Definitely should wait on more details, but it's just interesting, as if they push back the seeds by 1 season, it should make a spot available for the winner of MLG Columbus to get the Code S seed in GSL August (and the winner of Anaheim takes the seed in GSL October). *shrug* Ignoring both of our speculation... don't you think GSL would confirm that they have enough players willing to participate before letting them in or making this annoucement? Don't really get what exactly you're referring to, but even with 5 players on F. United, they should be able to play even the Bo9 finals (although there was an 8 player limit before, which probably was relaxed for them). You only need 5 players in the finals, which is the bare minimum. I would guess GSL are trying to get that number to increase though. But they wouldn't without Sase or whoever is the 3rd player... Soccer doesn't really play SC2 so they are only left with 4. There has to be atleast 1 more player joining them. Soccer does play SC2. He tried to qualify for the last GSL. Ironically lost to Moon in the second last round before Moon himself lost to TopClassfOu. I remember, because I was compiling information for the live updates for the qualifier thread. (Don't ask me how I remember these stuff). EDIT: Also, WMF could start recruiting for their "Warcraft 3 (read: SC2)" team to expand it and if SaSe was joining the team, I think GSL would have announced it. Ah I thought he gave up on SC2 a while ago. He's been pretty active in the WC3 world the last few months. I guess he must be splitting his time...
Yeah, the feeling I get from the WMF players is that they are really splitting their time hardcore and that they only surface when GSL qualifications come nearer.
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On June 14 2011 12:00 Parapa wrote:
In Korea, Thursday is called the day of Jupiter and Friday is called the day of Venus hence our reason for giving the leagues such names.
I had to geek out on this.
Thursday is derived from Thor's Day. The Roman's equated the Thor with Jupiter (lightning Gods).
Friday is derived from Freyja's Day, who as the Goddess of Love, the Roman's equated with Venus.
Oh ya, I was going to comment on what a good move this was going to be for We Made Fox. I wonder if they were always planning on 'adopting' the foreigners from the exchange program.
I saw in some old interviews that they were hoping to build up the team to give Moon, Lyn, Soccer some practice partners instead of having them fend for themselves by making friends with all the other pro-houses.
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this looks massively awesome
can't wait
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This is how GSTL was meant to look; very happy to see the team leagues twice a week.
Group A is looking really strong, especially because the bottom three teams according to rank (MVP, Prime, F.United) all should perform well in the team league format. TSL is actually one of the weaker teams in the group, so that says a lot. The most obvious prediction is to look for Slayers to stay hot.
Group B could be extremely competitive, but this hinges largely on NS and FXO staying with the pack and not falling to bottom. With NesTea and MVP, look for IM to stay on top of the leaderboard all season long. Hopefully the other teams' strategies evolve and coaches focus on preparing snipers to take games off of the two IM superstars.
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On June 14 2011 13:51 Wuster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 12:00 Parapa wrote:
In Korea, Thursday is called the day of Jupiter and Friday is called the day of Venus hence our reason for giving the leagues such names. I had to geek out on this. Thursday is derived from Thor's Day. The Roman's equated the Thor with Jupiter (lightning Gods). Friday is derived from Freyja's Day, who as the Goddess of Love, the Roman's equated with Venus. Oh ya, I was going to comment on what a good move this was going to be for We Made Fox. I wonder if they were always planning on 'adopting' the foreigners from the exchange program. I saw in some old interviews that they were hoping to build up the team to give Moon, Lyn, Soccer some practice partners instead of having them fend for themselves by making friends with all the other pro-houses.
Actually in CJKV language, people use sun, moon, fire, water, tree, metal, soil to indicate sunday, monday,tuesday,....
And yes, they do call Jupiter literally tree planet, Mars = fire planet,.v.v.v..
That's why Thursday actually means day of tree, Friday means day of metal, not Jupiter and Venus. But yeah, Gom really knows how to word play though.:D
There're so many games, so little time GSTL ftw!!!!
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I really like the combination of Jupiter and Venus leagues, that seeds 1&3 from one and 2 from other are bracketed together for the finals. This should hopefully prevent a "semi-finals are the real finals" scenario.
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Format is like winner's league for sure, right? I hope so.
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Thanks so much for posting. This is gonna be sick.
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United States33230 Posts
what luck, my three favorite swedes in korea at the same time D:
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For people wondering if 5 people is enough to be able to compete in the team league, in a winner's league format (one they've been using), you only need a maximum of 4 people to win a bo7 (normal match) or a maximum of 5 people to win a bo9 (finals match). First to 4 or 5 wins. Fox technically won't need any more players, but that leaves them very susceptible to snipes, given that they have no depth.
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Question for Dr.Chae. Theres no new map this season ? that lower my interest a lil bit :p
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I'm actually more happier to hear that WemadeFox is playing in GSTL rather than Thorzain, naniwa and co.
But i'm glad Thorzain gets his chance to play in there.
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3030 Posts
Nice 12 teams and foreigners, will be looking forward to this.
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I hope the foreigner teams have a good showing.. Doubt its going to happen though.. =\
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Are they really gonna play as..
F.U.Naniwa
F.U.Thorzain
?
That would be awesome :D Thank you Mr. Chae!
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GOM seems to be doing so much to push Sc2
Changing the formats up so it doesnt get boring
Huge pool prizes
Huge amount of involvement with the foreign scene
I like the way e-sports is going. I do hope that GOM's actions pays off, cause I'd be surprised if they're making a lot of money at the moment...
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On June 14 2011 14:52 VIB wrote:
Are they really gonna play as..
F.U.Naniwa
F.U.Thorzain
?
That would be awesome :D Thank you Mr. Chae!
They don't make separate accounts for the GSTL, players on a team all play on the same team account. They'll be playing on 'F.United' or something.
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Who is the 3rd player?
afaik
naniwa
thorzain
and idra is the top 3 europeans in mlg
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Sick :D. In the other thread I was like of all teams why We Made Fox? And now it all makes sense :D. Surely We Made Fox needs to pick up some more koreans tho ^^ :D?
I CANT WAIT TO SEE TZAIN AND NANIWA IN THE TEAM LEAGUE :D:D:D:D:D:D
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United States3704 Posts
Does this mean I can FINNALLY see Soccer play some protoss in an offical GSL match!
Thank you GSL for doing the foreigner + WMF team!
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On June 14 2011 15:07 Benjef wrote:
Sick :D. In the other thread I was like of all teams why We Made Fox? And now it all makes sense :D. Surely We Made Fox needs to pick up some more koreans tho ^^ :D?
I CANT WAIT TO SEE TZAIN AND NANIWA IN THE TEAM LEAGUE :D:D:D:D:D:D
maybe nada will join wemadefox? kekekee
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My guess on the possible candidate for third F.United player:
Fenix
Slush
Major
KiWiKaKi
Select
Pretty sure one of them will be it!
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Thank you Mr. Chae. Keep up the good work there!
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Thanks for letting us know of such great news. I can't wait!
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Russian Federation676 Posts
guys, but it was said nani + thorzain will compete in gsl august. does this mean we have to wait 1.5 months for their performance in korea?
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Haha I don't think a lot of man united fans will be happy with this team name
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Russian Federation676 Posts
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Any word on whether or not the league will be winners league format or a proleague format?
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49986 Posts
On June 14 2011 15:32 RoK Ot7Er wrote:
Any word on whether or not the league will be winners league format or a proleague format?
winner's league.
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Russian Federation676 Posts
will this take 10 weeks total? I wonder if they changed prizepool
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Wow... GSTL was already the best thing ever and Gom keeps improving it? Just awesome!
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This GSTL is going to be EPIC, even more so than the other ones! =)
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Oh damn, sickness!
Lets go SlayerS!
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Awesome news!
I'm so cheering for F. United now!
Swedes fighting~~
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Germany1287 Posts
On June 14 2011 15:38 human_ko wrote:
will this take 10 weeks total? I wonder if they changed prizepool
The prize pool was upped from ₩15,000,000 (1st 10m, 2nd 5m) to ₩50,000,000 (1st 30m, 2nd 15m, 3rd 5m).
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A real Teamleague...SC2 has really come all the way.
Makes a nerd happy.
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Oh look, IM is actually playing in this one and they're still in second even after not being allowed in during GSTL May.....
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On June 14 2011 13:30 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Wow Korea does that with the names too?
That's interesting, cus in spanish we learned that the spanish names for days were also based on the planets
not only in spanish, in french and italian too.
Jupiter Venus
Jueves Viernes
Jeudi Vendredi
Giovedi Venerdì
and the planets are based on the roman gods, who were based on greek gods too.
roman jupiter = greek zeus
roman venus = greek aphrodite
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WoW. This looks pretty insane.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49986 Posts
On June 14 2011 16:35 Xacalite wrote:
A real Teamleague...SC2 has really come all the way.
Makes a nerd happy.
A real Team League lasts 10 months not weeks,but this still very good.
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Putting FXO in the first part of the matches might be a bit bad, because they could have more time to prepare on the Korean ladder for the "Korean style" if they had all their matches in the second half.
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Does HuK/Jinro get to play for oGs?
would love to see them participate in GSTL
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Naniwa and Thorzain with my favourite korean team! This has to be a dream because it's too good to be true! TAKE MY MONEY!
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On June 14 2011 16:43 xuanzue wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 13:30 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Wow Korea does that with the names too?
That's interesting, cus in spanish we learned that the spanish names for days were also based on the planets
not only in spanish, in french and italian too. Jupiter Venus Jueves Viernes Jeudi Vendredi Giovedi Venerdì and the planets are based on the roman gods, who were based on greek gods too. roman jupiter = greek zeus roman venus = greek aphrodite
It's actually also the same in English and German, only with a tiny difference. The Nordic and Germanic people weren't quite so happy with referring to the roman gods and so they were allowed to use their own. To use French - German as an example:
Lundi - Luna - Mond (Moon) - Montag
Mardi - Mars - Dienst - Dienstag
(Wedsnesday is Mittwoch in German, which just means "middle of the week" :/)
//Anyways French - English: Mercredi - Mercury - Woden/Odin - Wednesday
//The German "Mittwoch" is apparently adopted from the Gothic calendar which does not refer to gods at all. It seems as though Polish and Russian calendars adopted this calendar also.
Jeudi - Jupiter - Thor/Donner - Donnerstag
Vendredi - Venus - Freya - Freitag
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
Awesome news!
On a side note, why hasn't Mr Chae received a shiny GOMTV icon yet?
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On June 14 2011 17:01 RiceManOdoom wrote:
Does HuK/Jinro get to play for oGs?
would love to see them participate in GSTL
oGs has too deep rooster to have a need to empliy mercenaries.
Look at FXO. They stated that they wont employ Liquid guys cause it isnt in their sponsors interest.
I think the only chances for Liquid guys is playing as mercenaries for F. United
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MVP vs SlayerS first night? Already hyped!
Hoping to see more unknown players from teams. Last GSTL gave us Taeja, Gumiho, GuineaPig and Dongraegu.
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On June 14 2011 17:21 Telcontar wrote:Awesome news! On a side note, why hasn't Mr Chae received a shiny GOMTV icon yet?
I'm totally with you. Give the man a GOMtv icon!
Thanks to Mr. Chae to help esports/SC2 to grow even more.
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Actually the Japanese and Korean days of the week are based off the five Chinese elements (water fire wood metal earth) plus the moon and the sun.. This naming system is obsolete in chinese nowadays but the planets are named for the elements. So it's a coincidence that it coincides with roman days of the week... Jupiter is wood-star, Venus is gold, mars invariably fire, Saturn earth lol, mercury water...
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On June 14 2011 17:27 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 17:01 RiceManOdoom wrote:
Does HuK/Jinro get to play for oGs?
would love to see them participate in GSTL oGs has too deep rooster to have a need to empliy mercenaries. Look at FXO. They stated that they wont employ Liquid guys cause it isnt in their sponsors interest. I think the only chances for Liquid guys is playing as mercenaries for F. United
oGs-TL is already a thing. Liquid guys aren't mercing out when they're already an integrated part of a team. oGs for that matter doesn't consider them mercenaries, they're teammates.
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On June 14 2011 17:14 DonkeyShot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 16:43 xuanzue wrote:On June 14 2011 13:30 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Wow Korea does that with the names too?
That's interesting, cus in spanish we learned that the spanish names for days were also based on the planets
not only in spanish, in french and italian too. Jupiter Venus Jueves Viernes Jeudi Vendredi Giovedi Venerdì and the planets are based on the roman gods, who were based on greek gods too. roman jupiter = greek zeus roman venus = greek aphrodite It's actually also the same in English and German, only with a tiny difference. The Nordic and Germanic people weren't quite so happy with referring to the roman gods and so they were allowed to use their own. To use French - German as an example: Lundi - Luna - Mond (Moon) - Montag Mardi - Mars - Dienst - Dienstag (Wedsnesday is Mittwoch in German, which just means "middle of the week" :/) //Anyways French - English: Mercredi - Mercury - Woden/Odin - Wednesday //The German "Mittwoch" is apparently adopted from the Gothic calendar which does not refer to gods at all. It seems as though Polish and Russian calendars adopted this calendar also. Jeudi - Jupiter - Thor/Donner - Donnerstag Vendredi - Venus - Freya - Freitag
i'm learning so much on TeamLiquid forums!
Jupiter and Venus are cool and logical group names.
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Great news. Thanks for the notice Mr Chae.
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it's the war3 team hehehe ;D
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Im not sure how well FXO can be expected to do but Im really looking forward to see them and all the foreigners. Ill proboably buy a ticket this time.
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On June 14 2011 17:21 Telcontar wrote:On a side note, why hasn't Mr Chae received a shiny GOMTV icon yet?
This.
User was warned for this post
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F.United... what a name :S
I hope I get to watch every single GSTL , gom is awesome <3
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GSTL looking better and better with each change. Keep those changes comming.
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Just noticed that the Fox + Foreigner team play oGs week 10. I think GOM is trolling us hard here. >_<
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I say!
I knew about the whole Thursday and Friday situation, but 2 foreigner teams? This is really great news. I am quite curious who the third foreigner joining FOX's bid is. There are a couple possibilities that occur to me as to the shroud of secrecy there. We'll just have to wait and see.
Nani and Thorzain are such beasts, and FXO as a team is no slouch either. I'll be wishing them all the best.
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On June 14 2011 17:38 Bear4188 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 17:27 Frankon wrote:On June 14 2011 17:01 RiceManOdoom wrote:
Does HuK/Jinro get to play for oGs?
would love to see them participate in GSTL oGs has too deep rooster to have a need to empliy mercenaries. Look at FXO. They stated that they wont employ Liquid guys cause it isnt in their sponsors interest. I think the only chances for Liquid guys is playing as mercenaries for F. United oGs-TL is already a thing. Liquid guys aren't mercing out when they're already an integrated part of a team. oGs for that matter doesn't consider them mercenaries, they're teammates.
GOM doesnt think that way.... The mercenary system were made with TL guys in mind.
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get FUnited to get grubby and it will be fun time :D
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On June 14 2011 18:26 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Just noticed that the Fox + Foreigner team play oGs week 10. I think GOM is trolling us hard here. >_<
huh? I don't understand this. Since it is a league format, each team will play against every other team, round robin style. Before the final rounds, which will be similar to the teamleague. So, I can only assume you think when they lose they will be out? But that's not the case right, so it doesn't matter if they the team with the strongest players overall. Hmm, sorry just looked at the schedule and it clearly says there's multiple weeks so I'm wrong in assuming you weren't aware of that. I just don't understand then haha. Maybe there's an MLG or?
Also, wow so cool. WeMade <3 with MooN and Lyn. Nani, Thorzain, SaSe? <3 OMG !!!!
FXO got a really fair group I feel. Zenex, fOu, HoSeo and Startale. I think they will do well :D
SO COOL!!! SO HYPE!!! Foreigners Fighting!!
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oh man group A looks so tough lol
besides F.United all the "weaker teams" (Zenex, NS_Hoseo, fOu, FXO) seem to be in group B :O
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I wasn't sure about buying a new ticket for this season, but with these great news, I can't say no. Thanks alot!
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On June 14 2011 17:14 DonkeyShot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 16:43 xuanzue wrote:On June 14 2011 13:30 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Wow Korea does that with the names too?
That's interesting, cus in spanish we learned that the spanish names for days were also based on the planets
not only in spanish, in french and italian too. Jupiter Venus Jueves Viernes Jeudi Vendredi Giovedi Venerdì and the planets are based on the roman gods, who were based on greek gods too. roman jupiter = greek zeus roman venus = greek aphrodite It's actually also the same in English and German, only with a tiny difference. The Nordic and Germanic people weren't quite so happy with referring to the roman gods and so they were allowed to use their own. To use French - German as an example: Lundi - Luna - Mond (Moon) - Montag Mardi - Mars - Dienst - Dienstag (Wedsnesday is Mittwoch in German, which just means "middle of the week" :/) //Anyways French - English: Mercredi - Mercury - Woden/Odin - Wednesday //The German "Mittwoch" is apparently adopted from the Gothic calendar which does not refer to gods at all. It seems as though Polish and Russian calendars adopted this calendar also. Jeudi - Jupiter - Thor/Donner - Donnerstag Vendredi - Venus - Freya - Freitag
Actually friday is not from Freya, but from the god Frigg. It's a common missconception.
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Aww you gotta feel for poor fox! They only have 3 players!. It is so cute that they are ale to compete now!
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SlayerS got this obviously. IM got the easy group, which is good because the SlayerS - IM final is guaranteed, and beating IM is always very enjoyable.
Let's get this going!
PS. Noooo don't call it F. United. I want Nani and Thorzain to be on WMF, it sounds much cooler that way. 
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On June 14 2011 16:37 stevarius wrote:
Oh look, IM is actually playing in this one and they're still in second even after not being allowed in during GSTL May.....
They were allowed, they just didn't have enough ranking points to be one of the top 10 teams. Surely next time that happens we'll just toss out one of the lesser teams and let them in, yay!
I really don't understand how people didn't get this. Yes, it was too bad but it was hardly GOM TVs fault.
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Im looking forward to this
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Wait so some days we have 2 team matches on a day? Also maps were forgotten for Jupiter side when it gets down.
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Australia8532 Posts
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F United with Moon,Lyn,Naniwa and Thorzain?! Sorry Prime, sorry Slayers but this is just too epic to not be a Fan!
Always loved Lyn and its a team with all the old Warcraft players!
Super excited now for GSTL.
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i want to have Mr Chae's babies ^^ cute little snails
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This should be spectactular! Love it.
What does the F in F.United stand for? Fox United?
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Fix your F*cking stream first before mroe shit
Nobody in my country can watch a normal gsl match anymore without non-stop lag
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On June 14 2011 19:55 Azurues wrote:
Fix your F*cking stream first before mroe shit
Nobody in my country can watch a normal gsl match anymore without non-stop lag
No issues here in Canada, maybe the problem isn't GSL, you might wanna perform a little extensive troubleshooting there eh
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What kind of troubleshooting can i do if my whole country lags? The same ISP with the fastest possible speed. Previously totally smooth even when times where complains of stream not functioning well in TL, we are all fine.
Now it's like watching youtube that are not trying to buffer at all.
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Woot!@
Bringing sick news as always, Mr. Chae :D
WemadeFOX fighting <3!!!
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On June 14 2011 20:03 Azurues wrote:
What kind of troubleshooting can i do if my whole country lags? The same ISP with the fastest possible speed. Previously totally smooth even when times where complains of stream not functioning well in TL, we are all fine.
Now it's like watching youtube that are not trying to buffer at all.
How do you know your 'whole country' lags? Besides, the stream is a FREE SERVICE. You should be grateful.
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maybe I'm missing something, but isn't teamliquid team playing anymore in GSTL? I remember them playing in the first ones right?
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On June 14 2011 20:10 Serelitz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 20:03 Azurues wrote:
What kind of troubleshooting can i do if my whole country lags? The same ISP with the fastest possible speed. Previously totally smooth even when times where complains of stream not functioning well in TL, we are all fine.
Now it's like watching youtube that are not trying to buffer at all.
How do you know your 'whole country' lags? Besides, the stream is a FREE SERVICE. You should be grateful.
Unfortunately i am not a leecher unlike most of the users here
I have a valid HD ticket of Gom TV which i wasted buying for the super tournament as it lags badly.
Free? Yup free lags
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Venus and Jupiter day ? ^^ sounds strange but anyway the new format sound awesome cant wait ;D
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On June 14 2011 20:15 titan_tase wrote:
maybe I'm missing something, but isn't teamliquid team playing anymore in GSTL? I remember them playing in the first ones right?
They never played in the first one. Not enough players. They are teaming up with oGs this time around though.
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On June 14 2011 20:15 titan_tase wrote:
maybe I'm missing something, but isn't teamliquid team playing anymore in GSTL? I remember them playing in the first ones right?
TL have never participating as they haven't had enough players/never had a enough points to qualify as one of the teams. However, under the new rules there are "free agents" allowed with foreigners. They are able to be picked up by any team, and since TL has a relationship with oGs they have agreed to play only for them if required.
On June 14 2011 20:21 Esel wrote:
Venus and Jupiter day ? ^^ sounds strange but anyway the new format sound awesome cant wait ;D
Makes sense according to the OP it is the translation of the Korean name for the days the games are played on :D
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Thanks for the info....I cant have anything else but apreciation for every action GSL/GOM are taking to make the game grow and allow everyone to have a shot in the ever growing competitive korean scene. GJ and keep it up! You'll have my support and everytime that I can I will watch bot the GSL and the GSTL!
Gogogo SlayerS and WMF!!!!
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On June 14 2011 20:15 titan_tase wrote:
maybe I'm missing something, but isn't teamliquid team playing anymore in GSTL? I remember them playing in the first ones right? You remember incorrectly, they never played in a GSTL.
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On June 14 2011 20:38 Alkior wrote:
No team liquid? QQ You can't play in the GSTL with 2 players, c'mon people think a little.
Huk and Jinro are part of the oGs roster.
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On June 14 2011 12:06 last.resistance wrote:
So F.United is Moon, Lyn, Naniwa, Thorzain, and who else?
Soccer OF COURSE !!!!!
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Naniwa and Thorzain in GSTL!? Awesome!!
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On June 14 2011 20:48 Cosmos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 12:06 last.resistance wrote:
So F.United is Moon, Lyn, Naniwa, Thorzain, and who else? Soccer OF COURSE !!!!!
Plus the other foreigner thats going over there. Its also going to be playing for FOX or FUnited I believe
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On June 14 2011 19:55 Azurues wrote:
Fix your F*cking stream first before mroe shit
Nobody in my country can watch a normal gsl match anymore without non-stop lag
Yeah, actually I have problems with even the low quality stream lagging as well, even though I have 10Mb and everything else works fine. Anyone else in Australia have lag issues with GSL?
Maybe it's the connection to Korea that's bad still after the earthquake in Japan?
Hopefully it'll be better next season though.
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gsl stream is fine for me (im in Western Australia)
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this is such awesome news. <3 korea
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Magic Woods9326 Posts
Group A seems sooo much harder than group B
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amazing news. cant wait. definitely buying a pass
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Great news, I love the format too, should be some good pool games and there is actually a lot of incentive to be 1st rather than 2nd or 3rd.
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MR CHAE MR CHAE MR CHAE
gom is so super duper fantastic awesome and gawd am i excited for this. Going to buy my HD pass for gom now :D :D :D
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Yes, I love GSTL and now there's even more reason to watch :D.
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On June 14 2011 19:05 RaiKageRyu wrote:
Wait so some days we have 2 team matches on a day? Also maps were forgotten for Jupiter side when it gets down.
Well it could be that they will introduce a few new maps for the 6-10th week, since it'll be august by then.
Every two months or so we have seen some new maps.
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This is going to be awesome
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United States313 Posts
F. United Fighting!
Glad its extended to group play, really exciting announcement all in all.
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On June 14 2011 20:28 Dattish wrote:
I'm gonna lol if the announce voice goes "F.U. Thorzain!"
Haha,epic win.
Edit:Lol,we posted the same thing.
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This will make for some amazing games !
Can hardly wait for F.United against SlayerS.
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Is there a reason why FXO plays all their matches on the first 5 weeks, and F.United plays all theirs on the last 5 weeks?
Cool thing to see though, I was wondering too the other day just what teams were in the league. Fun to know.
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On June 15 2011 00:41 Nidoa wrote:
Is there a reason why FXO plays all their matches on the first 5 weeks, and F.United plays all theirs on the last 5 weeks?
I thought the same thing when I looked at the schedule. Could be that they want the foreigners to be able to leave if they don't make the playoffs or something? I guess that only explains FXO's schedule though.
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Wow really excited to see these games. Good work by gom. Can't wait!
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Fun facts about the point rankings..
IM only participated in 2 out of 3 GSTL's, yet they are the second highest ranked team.
MVP only participated in 1 GSTL, yet they are ranked higher then Prime who participated in all 3.
Some teams are better then others it seems
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As usual, Mr. Chae's threads deliver. Fantastic news, can't wait to buy the ticket!
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On June 15 2011 00:53 Archvil3 wrote:Fun facts about the point rankings.. IM only participated in 2 out of 3 GSTL's, yet they are the second highest ranked team. MVP only participated in 1 GSTL, yet they are ranked higher then Prime who participated in all 3. Some teams are better then others it seems
Well Prime probs have the best players all around but i know they seem to fail way to much in the team league they have insane amount of good players
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Funny this is that Thorzain and Naniwa will probably be amongst the best players in their team.
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WooWoo! =D Awesome to read this!
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Fantastic News!
Group A is stacked though. I would consider every team in group A to be stronger than the last 4 seeds in group B.
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Thank you very much Mr.Chae, really looking forward to it!
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Awesome, my only concern is group A seems way more stacked than group B. Especially considering MVP made it to the finals last gstl and Prime has finally started to improve. Fou is just awful (besides SC the rest are basically 1basers) now its too bad they still have a rank 5 above teams like MVP just because they've been around longer.
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On June 14 2011 12:00 Parapa wrote:
In Korea, Thursday is called the day of Jupiter and Friday is called the day of Venus hence our reason for giving the leagues such names.
Dear Reddit, today I learned...
Cool stuff there, hope to see the foreigners perform well under the extreme team pressure
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On June 14 2011 12:32 DoomsVille wrote:I wonder if Nani/Thorzain are going to live with Moon/Lyn in the WMF house? Here is a video tour of it: + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1pLV5KyvQM
Wow, wemadefox house is much nicer than the other pro houses I've seen so far. I guess thats the benefit of being in a big multi game team.
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Wow this is awesome. This is the kind of league I've been hoping for, not to mention a lot more foreigners are going to be involved.
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hmmm.... Having the two different leagues seem a little bit weird in my eyes - some teams just never get to play each other. I suppose this is due to the time constrain?
I hope fox can pick up some more people to fill their roaster - maybe even borrow someone from the bw team :p
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The problem with ogs-TL is that ogs' roster is far too deep and strong to have to use the TL players. I highly doubt we'll ever see them as part of the gstl with ogs.
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On June 15 2011 02:52 Hikari wrote:
hmmm.... Having the two different leagues seem a little bit weird in my eyes - some teams just never get to play each other. I suppose this is due to the time constrain?
I hope fox can pick up some more people to fill their roaster - maybe even borrow someone from the bw team :p
Having that much teams playing for 2 days a week, it would be too long to make them face each others, sadly.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Fanchester United Fighting!
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Hoping to see oGsTheStC play this season :D
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On June 15 2011 02:21 darkest44 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 12:32 DoomsVille wrote:I wonder if Nani/Thorzain are going to live with Moon/Lyn in the WMF house? Here is a video tour of it: + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1pLV5KyvQM Wow, wemadefox house is much nicer than the other pro houses I've seen so far. I guess thats the benefit of being in a big multi game team.
yeah FOX is one of the only teams that was already a successful clan. Not only did they have their BW team, but they also had the best wc3 team for many years. (moon lyn and soccer)
I doubt anyone knows soccer, but he is on the FOX sc2 roster, so he has attempted to get into Code A a few times, but hasnt succeded. He was a night elf in Wc3, and had a decent amount of success, won a few tournaments, and was always considered one of the top players. (probably equivalent to say kal from BW? always near the top, but never at the top.) but my BW knowledge is a little sketchy)
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On June 15 2011 02:21 darkest44 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 12:32 DoomsVille wrote:I wonder if Nani/Thorzain are going to live with Moon/Lyn in the WMF house? Here is a video tour of it: + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1pLV5KyvQM Wow, wemadefox house is much nicer than the other pro houses I've seen so far. I guess thats the benefit of being in a big multi game team.
If i am not mistaken they dropped their support for CS or WC3, so i don't know if their "conditions" are as good as they once were.
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Awesome! Thank you Mr. Chae!
Will Team Liquid be participating as a team? Or will they be merged with another team?
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On June 15 2011 03:58 willoc wrote:
Awesome! Thank you Mr. Chae!
Will Team Liquid be participating as a team? Or will they be merged with another team?
Team Liquid players are being allowed to play under the oGs name, and it's likely that they will do so. We probably won't see them that often, considering how many good players are on oGs, but it should happen at least a few times.
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Format looks pretty cool. Way to go GOM.
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On June 15 2011 04:29 YoungNeil wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 03:58 willoc wrote:
Awesome! Thank you Mr. Chae!
Will Team Liquid be participating as a team? Or will they be merged with another team? Team Liquid players are being allowed to play under the oGs name, and it's likely that they will do so. We probably won't see them that often, considering how many good players are on oGs, but it should happen at least a few times.
I am assuming oGs will pick their own players by default unless there are special circumstances like players are sick or there is an internal decision to bring in a liquid sniper perhaps.
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haha, hope Chill gets to cast the GSTL for this possible chat to occur:
Nani: CHILL GET OUT
Chill: F.U. NANIWA
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Thank you sir. This is going to be soooooo awesome.
Edit: I forgot to add, oGs fightinggggg!!!!
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WOW, sounds really great. PUMPED! ^_^
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FXO, Nani and Thorzain fighting!
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Naniwa will dance trough the tournament, good luck to all the foreigners participating!
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holy fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
naniwa + thorzain + lyn + moon = my new favorite team
F.United hwaiting D:
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United States23455 Posts
If F.United was in the other division, I think they would have a good chance to get top six, but they really got unlucky in their draw.
Slayers? Two time champions.
oGs? MC, Nada, TOP, Supernova, and a bunch of depth.
Prime? MarineKing, the new-and-improved Polt, the resurgence of Maka, and the ever dangerous Anypro.
MVP? Genius, Violet, and Keen. Oh, and they got that guy DongRaeGu. Heard he's pretty good.
TSL? Not at their best, but still have a dangerous line-up with Clide, Tester, Killer and FruitDealer.
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Whateven side wemade got in there was a big chance they would need to fight against some of the best teams like MvP, Slayers or IM. So now they just need to continue the tradition of new teams owning the GSTL and make us all happy
Hopefully the 3rd foreigner will be a good addition as well
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omfg hello waking nights now i got to watch code a and s and teamleague like always for foreigners srsly all this gsl exchange program is starting to look alot better :D
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Great news, looking forward to the GSTL!
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I just want to express my deepest gratitude to the combined efforts of GOM and the MLG for doing everything they can to merge Starcraft 2 into a global esports community. There's just about nothing more exciting than watching the best foreign players play against the best Korean players, but that wouldn't even be possible if you didn't go above and beyond to facilitate it. On behalf of all pro Starcraft fans, thank you!
The only thing about the post I'm really confused about is this:
Our expectations are high for the new GSTL which will now be a regular league.
I'm not exactly sure what that "will now be a regular league" means. Anyone know?
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On June 15 2011 13:54 Skaggs wrote:I just want to express my deepest gratitude to the combined efforts of GOM and the MLG for doing everything they can to merge Starcraft 2 into a global esports community. There's just about nothing more exciting than watching the best foreign players play against the best Korean players, but that wouldn't even be possible if you didn't go above and beyond to facilitate it. On behalf of all pro Starcraft fans, thank you! The only thing about the post I'm really confused about is this: Show nested quote +Our expectations are high for the new GSTL which will now be a regular league. I'm not exactly sure what that "will now be a regular league" means. Anyone know?
I think he means one of two things,
1. The GSTL will occur regularly i.e. two or three seasons per year w/ 10+ teams
2. Instead of a king of the hill format, it will be a 1v1 format where each player is different for each game up until the ace match, see BW proleague format
Hopefully it is both :D
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On June 15 2011 15:04 RoK Ot7Er wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 13:54 Skaggs wrote:I just want to express my deepest gratitude to the combined efforts of GOM and the MLG for doing everything they can to merge Starcraft 2 into a global esports community. There's just about nothing more exciting than watching the best foreign players play against the best Korean players, but that wouldn't even be possible if you didn't go above and beyond to facilitate it. On behalf of all pro Starcraft fans, thank you! The only thing about the post I'm really confused about is this: Our expectations are high for the new GSTL which will now be a regular league. I'm not exactly sure what that "will now be a regular league" means. Anyone know? I think he means one of two things, 1. The GSTL will occur regularly i.e. two or three seasons per year w/ 10+ teams 2. Instead of a king of the hill format, it will be a 1v1 format where each player is different for each game up until the ace match, see BW proleague format Hopefully it is both :D
Ahh, that's quite interesting.
I would imagine it's the second one as the first one doesn't really make sense as the GSTL was already occurring regularly. Should be muy interesante.
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i wasn't going to watch this, but now i probably will with more foreigners
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Cannot wait to see how the foreigners do in korea, would love to see them put up a great fight!!!
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On June 15 2011 13:54 Skaggs wrote:The only thing about the post I'm really confused about is this: Show nested quote +Our expectations are high for the new GSTL which will now be a regular league. I'm not exactly sure what that "will now be a regular league" means. Anyone know?
It means that GSTL is now an actual league where teams play for a season and the teams with most wins after a season gets to play in the play-offs. It's not a 1 week tournament anymore.
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The format favors F.United a little in terms of getting information.
They play weeks 6-10 and they will have seen every team play, players builds for the map, and tendencies.All they have to do is play to their ability and beyond!
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Cannot wait for this the GSTL's so far have been amazing and pretty damn exciting and with foreigners playing in it it will be even better
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does the gstl start this thu fri? or next week?
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Excited about Thorzain and Naniwa on GSTL! It will be awesome!! Thank you Mr. Chae!
But GSL finals is upon us!! I was rooting for MKP, but MMA vs Polt is pretty good too. =]
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OMGGG Can't wait for foreigners to be in the team leagueeeee!!! FXO HWAAITIINGGG
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Seems WMF's whole warcraft3 roster is going to play in the GSTL? Any confirmation?
Edit: typo.
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lol Slayers are going to win again anyway. They are da best
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Wowow! I've been feeling a bit down about taking a break from watching GOMTV. Lately, I haven't been able to find the time with my new work schedule but . . .
I think it's about goddamned time to get back into it. Sweeeeeeeeeeet!!! Can't wait.
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i bet nani and thorzain are really excited about this (and code a).
might pick up a ticket for this (my first one).
XD
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On June 15 2011 22:37 L3g3nd_ wrote:
does the gstl start this thu fri? or next week?
Starting 23rd ( Which is next week;P)
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I love team leagues, can't wait to see what happens in this one.
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slayers hwaiting! im hoping for a triple kill. or maybe even go as far to have a monster kill!!~~ Also any1 know if Team Liquid is gonna update their system so that we can have our favorite team's icons like what they're doing for BW currently?
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Why is this league so much more expensive than the super tournament? (Super tournament was $10 with ads $20 without while GSTL is $25 with ads $40 without. I realize it goes on until september but it's only 2 days a week. I don't think your getting 2.5 times the content.
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On June 18 2011 03:30 OgsStump wrote:
Why is this league so much more expensive than the super tournament? (Super tournament was $10 with ads $20 without while GSTL is $25 with ads $40 without. I realize it goes on until september but it's only 2 days a week. I don't think your getting 2.5 times the content.
Yeah I don't get this either. I will still be buying the ticket because the tournament is stackkked. But I'm certain that the price increase will be turning away a lot of the regular buyers. GOM needs to realize that foreigners are not all loaded with cash
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New GSTL is 35 series (3 per week times 10 weeks, plus 5 in the playoffs)
Old GSTL is 7 series (2 per day times 3 days, plus 1 final)
Looks like you are actually getting 5 times the content.
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You get more matches per dollar than previous GSTL stuff, stop complaining guys, come on.
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Is the GSTL still the all-kill format or is it like those BW leagues?
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On June 18 2011 04:24 0neder wrote:
You get more matches per dollar than previous GSTL stuff, stop complaining guys, come on.
Actually it's the same number of matches per dollar for the team league with ads. (35matchs/25 bucks is 1.4 mpd 7 matches/5 bucks is 1.4 mpd). With my comment I was comparing the team league price to the individual league where you get a significantly better rate even if the matches are shorter series (62 head to head series/10 bucks is 6.2 mpd). Even taking the series length into effect it's a much better deal for the individual league. Not trying to be cheap but there's a pretty big discrepancy there. I like supporting gom i think they've got the highest level of play in the world but I also like supporting myself while paying off student loans. Please don't tell to stop complaining when you don't know my financial situation and double check your math before calling me out.
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Go Go Mr.Chae ! a.k.a Parapa! Thanks for the update!
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I'm so happy just because IM will be back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Incredible Miracle FTW!!!!!!
IMNesTea : The Best Zerg in the world (according to Tastosis)
IMLosira : Second Best Zerg in the world (according to Tastosis)
IMMvp : The Best Starcraft 2 player in the world (according to Tasteless)
IMYongHwa : one of the best PvP master and Total 7 kills in GSTL.
IMSeed : 3 kills vs oGs in GSTL Feb
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Will the GomTV steam ever be HD? I WANT to pay, but for a measly increase in resolution from the free stream, I feel like a sucker for paying....
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On June 18 2011 09:26 OgsStump wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 04:24 0neder wrote:
You get more matches per dollar than previous GSTL stuff, stop complaining guys, come on. Actually it's the same number of matches per dollar for the team league with ads. (35matchs/25 bucks is 1.4 mpd 7 matches/5 bucks is 1.4 mpd). With my comment I was comparing the team league price to the individual league where you get a significantly better rate even if the matches are shorter series (62 head to head series/10 bucks is 6.2 mpd). Even taking the series length into effect it's a much better deal for the individual league. Not trying to be cheap but there's a pretty big discrepancy there. I like supporting gom i think they've got the highest level of play in the world but I also like supporting myself while paying off student loans. Please don't tell to stop complaining when you don't know my financial situation and double check your math before calling me out.
They should raise the price of the individual league so that there is not a discrepancy. Gom should only care about making the most profit that it can not making the most people watch esports even if they are poor with student loans. You still have MLG dreamhack and the EG masters cup anyways.
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AWESOME!!!!
My goodness that's amazing.
Group A seems by far to be the toughest group but that's just fine because I truely believe ThorZain and Naniwa can handle it. It's awesome that those two are teammates for once haha.
I'd say that against those teams FXO has a real chance in here. It's gonna be hard to break into the top two, but Zenex, Hoseo, and foU have all been lackluster lately. They should at least win a series or two I think.
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On June 18 2011 23:30 coolcor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 09:26 OgsStump wrote:On June 18 2011 04:24 0neder wrote:
You get more matches per dollar than previous GSTL stuff, stop complaining guys, come on. Actually it's the same number of matches per dollar for the team league with ads. (35matchs/25 bucks is 1.4 mpd 7 matches/5 bucks is 1.4 mpd). With my comment I was comparing the team league price to the individual league where you get a significantly better rate even if the matches are shorter series (62 head to head series/10 bucks is 6.2 mpd). Even taking the series length into effect it's a much better deal for the individual league. Not trying to be cheap but there's a pretty big discrepancy there. I like supporting gom i think they've got the highest level of play in the world but I also like supporting myself while paying off student loans. Please don't tell to stop complaining when you don't know my financial situation and double check your math before calling me out. They should raise the price of the individual league so that there is not a discrepancy. Gom should only care about making the most profit that it can not making the most people watch esports even if they are poor with student loans. You still have MLG dreamhack and the EG masters cup anyways.
haha very true.
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