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BalZer
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy44 Posts
June 13 2011 19:40 GMT
#1141
Catz doesn't know Italian language.
Otherwise he wouldn't choose CoL.Catz as a name
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
June 13 2011 19:40 GMT
#1142
On June 14 2011 04:30 badcnr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 04:23 Linwelin wrote:
On June 14 2011 04:22 FairForever wrote:
On June 14 2011 04:18 Linwelin wrote:
On June 14 2011 04:17 NeonFox wrote:
On June 14 2011 03:58 Mario1209 wrote:
On June 14 2011 03:53 badcnr wrote:
so does any one know if kiwikaki is even looking for a new team? maybe fayth slush and kiwi are just going to make there own team

that wouldn't be the smart thing to do. sheth has a spot in code A, so him going to either TL or FXO would be smartest, since they both have people out in korea already. Kiwi also has attempted to get intot he GSL, so same goes for him.


Sheth is already in FXO, and it's been a while.


Probably meant Slush


Again, for the 900th time, Slush is planning on declining his spot, so it doesn't matter where he goes. Something tells me TL wouldn't accept Slush anyway (not because of skill, just team size) while FXO might, but they do have quite a few Zergs (I think they'd prefer Kiwi, but dunno if Kiwi wants to go there).

GL to everyone.


I never said that Slush accepted the code A spot. If you're refering to the guy who said Sheth instead of Slush then my bad

yeah but no offense to the liquid team but really huk and tlo were the only two i would even follow or watch, its not that ret or the others suck they just are just not consistent enough to consider watching where slush and kiwi have always usually put on a good run and enetertaing games that surprise or shock people so tl could use some revivement, but i am also good with fxo. just not eg please lol , egidra egincontrol egslush and egkiwi, its like angels and demons fighting together lol


Jinro was good for awhile, while Haypro and Tyler are choking it up, Ret is actually playing well and did well at the recent MLG (as well as NASL).

I don't think it would be good PR just to drop struggling players for TL, don't think they're in a position to pick up both, and it seems like they want to stick together for now.

I think EG is actually the best fit: they've got the flagship Ace (Idra), a top-25 foreigner (DeMuslim) and a rapidly growing star (Axslav) who made it through the Open Bracket of MLG (through the Loser's side). Don't know but StrifeCro hasn't looked very promising in either 1v1 or 2v2 (though Axslav playing Terran in 2v2 has helped). InControl is still good as well, but not compared to either. I think EG is the right fit, assuming Idra hasn't pissed off Slush that much lol.
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
June 13 2011 19:54 GMT
#1143
On June 14 2011 04:30 badcnr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 04:23 Linwelin wrote:
On June 14 2011 04:22 FairForever wrote:
On June 14 2011 04:18 Linwelin wrote:
On June 14 2011 04:17 NeonFox wrote:
On June 14 2011 03:58 Mario1209 wrote:
On June 14 2011 03:53 badcnr wrote:
so does any one know if kiwikaki is even looking for a new team? maybe fayth slush and kiwi are just going to make there own team

that wouldn't be the smart thing to do. sheth has a spot in code A, so him going to either TL or FXO would be smartest, since they both have people out in korea already. Kiwi also has attempted to get intot he GSL, so same goes for him.


Sheth is already in FXO, and it's been a while.


Probably meant Slush


Again, for the 900th time, Slush is planning on declining his spot, so it doesn't matter where he goes. Something tells me TL wouldn't accept Slush anyway (not because of skill, just team size) while FXO might, but they do have quite a few Zergs (I think they'd prefer Kiwi, but dunno if Kiwi wants to go there).

GL to everyone.


I never said that Slush accepted the code A spot. If you're refering to the guy who said Sheth instead of Slush then my bad

yeah but no offense to the liquid team but really huk and tlo were the only two i would even follow or watch, its not that ret or the others suck they just are just not consistent enough to consider watching where slush and kiwi have always usually put on a good run and enetertaing games that surprise or shock people so tl could use some revivement, but i am also good with fxo. just not eg please lol , egidra egincontrol egslush and egkiwi, its like angels and demons fighting together lol

Ret is like the best current Liquid player and I would even say the most consistent.
badcnr
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada116 Posts
June 13 2011 20:10 GMT
#1144
On June 14 2011 04:40 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 04:30 badcnr wrote:
On June 14 2011 04:23 Linwelin wrote:
On June 14 2011 04:22 FairForever wrote:
On June 14 2011 04:18 Linwelin wrote:
On June 14 2011 04:17 NeonFox wrote:
On June 14 2011 03:58 Mario1209 wrote:
On June 14 2011 03:53 badcnr wrote:
so does any one know if kiwikaki is even looking for a new team? maybe fayth slush and kiwi are just going to make there own team

that wouldn't be the smart thing to do. sheth has a spot in code A, so him going to either TL or FXO would be smartest, since they both have people out in korea already. Kiwi also has attempted to get intot he GSL, so same goes for him.


Sheth is already in FXO, and it's been a while.


Probably meant Slush


Again, for the 900th time, Slush is planning on declining his spot, so it doesn't matter where he goes. Something tells me TL wouldn't accept Slush anyway (not because of skill, just team size) while FXO might, but they do have quite a few Zergs (I think they'd prefer Kiwi, but dunno if Kiwi wants to go there).

GL to everyone.


I never said that Slush accepted the code A spot. If you're refering to the guy who said Sheth instead of Slush then my bad

yeah but no offense to the liquid team but really huk and tlo were the only two i would even follow or watch, its not that ret or the others suck they just are just not consistent enough to consider watching where slush and kiwi have always usually put on a good run and enetertaing games that surprise or shock people so tl could use some revivement, but i am also good with fxo. just not eg please lol , egidra egincontrol egslush and egkiwi, its like angels and demons fighting together lol


Jinro was good for awhile, while Haypro and Tyler are choking it up, Ret is actually playing well and did well at the recent MLG (as well as NASL).

I don't think it would be good PR just to drop struggling players for TL, don't think they're in a position to pick up both, and it seems like they want to stick together for now.

I think EG is actually the best fit: they've got the flagship Ace (Idra), a top-25 foreigner (DeMuslim) and a rapidly growing star (Axslav) who made it through the Open Bracket of MLG (through the Loser's side). Don't know but StrifeCro hasn't looked very promising in either 1v1 or 2v2 (though Axslav playing Terran in 2v2 has helped). InControl is still good as well, but not compared to either. I think EG is the right fit, assuming Idra hasn't pissed off Slush that much lol.

i am not saying drop some players but defiantely addind people that are of kiwi and slush quality is def going to boost them, and ath one point all of liquid was doing good but rets and even tylers not bad but they dont stand out. And eg has some really good players but all of them are so over rated or glitchy. before mlg columbus i can honestly say i was starting to be and idra and incontrol fan but after they are big hyprocrits. They talk they know what good players are and how good they are then fail hard at mlg and tournments. Not saying idra sucks or incontrol sucks but they fail to provide results that makes me fan. even when huk or kiwi lose a game or catz is a good one when they lose a game its in such a style that you want to watch them again
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 13 2011 20:14 GMT
#1145
I'm a little disappointed to hear this.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
theVash
Profile Joined May 2011
2 Posts
June 13 2011 20:50 GMT
#1146
On June 14 2011 02:29 strength wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 02:12 theVash wrote:
I don't understand the point of this? I'm not a fan of the cheesy coL team. Also I understand the sponser issues and all the work of having your own team and playing but couldn't they hire some staff members?


someone has no idea what they are talking about.

Obviously you didn't read CatZ article. So you don't know what you're talking about dumb ass...

User was banned for this post.
Tacoss23
Profile Joined April 2011
United States23 Posts
June 13 2011 21:07 GMT
#1147
Wouldn't surprise me is Kiwi moves to FXO, would be a great overall change for both I think.

However, what complexity needs to do to start to be taken seriously in the SC2 scene, is get rid of the several "filler" players that they have currently. It's not good for their image and gives the impression that they are not taking this seriously enough to be considered a real SC2 pro team.

I'm talking about having players like Cruncher on their roster for example. Having such a poor player who is hated and ridiculized by most of the SC2 community does not help the image of the team at all. Now that they are acquiring talented players from ROOT they should start a house-cleaning and get rid of the "garbage" players like Cruncher, for a solid small team of really talented players with a future in the SC2 scene. This would give Complexity a decent chance to be taken seriously and become a real competitive team.

User was temp banned for this post.
Gatored
Profile Joined September 2010
United States679 Posts
June 13 2011 21:18 GMT
#1148
On June 14 2011 06:07 Tacoss23 wrote:
Wouldn't surprise me is Kiwi moves to FXO, would be a great overall change for both I think.

However, what complexity needs to do to start to be taken seriously in the SC2 scene, is get rid of the several "filler" players that they have currently. It's not good for their image and gives the impression that they are not taking this seriously enough to be considered a real SC2 pro team.

I'm talking about having players like Cruncher on their roster for example. Having such a poor player who is hated and ridiculized by most of the SC2 community does not help the image of the team at all. Now that they are acquiring talented players from ROOT they should start a house-cleaning and get rid of the "garbage" players like Cruncher, for a solid small team of really talented players with a future in the SC2 scene. This would give Complexity a decent chance to be taken seriously and become a real competitive team.


Ban incoming?

If Cruncher is so garbage why do you consistently see him doing good in tournaments? He just recently made top 32 at MLG and took down people like KiWiKaKi. He also got what, top 8 in the TSL as well as difficult task of qualifying for it?

Ignorant fanboys (of Idra) such as yourself really need to quit blindly hating people just because he uses a style you might not necessarily like.

User was warned for this post
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
June 13 2011 21:31 GMT
#1149
On June 14 2011 06:07 Tacoss23 wrote:
Wouldn't surprise me is Kiwi moves to FXO, would be a great overall change for both I think.

However, what complexity needs to do to start to be taken seriously in the SC2 scene, is get rid of the several "filler" players that they have currently. It's not good for their image and gives the impression that they are not taking this seriously enough to be considered a real SC2 pro team.

I'm talking about having players like Cruncher on their roster for example. Having such a poor player who is hated and ridiculized by most of the SC2 community does not help the image of the team at all. Now that they are acquiring talented players from ROOT they should start a house-cleaning and get rid of the "garbage" players like Cruncher, for a solid small team of really talented players with a future in the SC2 scene. This would give Complexity a decent chance to be taken seriously and become a real competitive team.


lmao you had me going there... till you mentioned cruncher.

love him or hate him (form your own opinion of him noobs) you see him in tournaments everywhere because he earned his way there.
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 13 2011 21:32 GMT
#1150
On June 14 2011 05:50 theVash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 02:29 strength wrote:
On June 14 2011 02:12 theVash wrote:
I don't understand the point of this? I'm not a fan of the cheesy coL team. Also I understand the sponser issues and all the work of having your own team and playing but couldn't they hire some staff members?


someone has no idea what they are talking about.

Obviously you didn't read CatZ article. So you don't know what you're talking about dumb ass...


Lmfao... first of all, congrats on going straight to the name calling. Seriously, it takes a lot of work to insult someone who disagrees with you.

Secondly, how do you think they would pay these managers with no income from sponsors (or not enough). I think that is why he said you don't know what you're talking about, though I shouldn't speak for him.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
June 13 2011 21:44 GMT
#1151
since people seem to of forgotten the earlier posts

kiwi slush and fayth have confirmed they are staying together. so any team where you can think adding more members is a problem multiply that by 3.
OsC
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 21:49:08
June 13 2011 21:48 GMT
#1152
cruncher is good i dont see why he has so many haters. hes not a top NA but hes def a name worth mentioning in terms of NA talent

doesnt matter how you win winning is winning

and i dont see why TL wouldnt pick up kiwi slush and fayth

is it a money issue? TL seems like a team that doesnt have any financial problems at all and kiwi and slush are two of the best IN NA. honestly TL has been in a slump lately imo, and this could really revitalize them. i dont know too much about fayth
Tyrgrim
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden83 Posts
June 13 2011 21:57 GMT
#1153
On June 14 2011 02:47 Clickety wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 02:37 badcnr wrote:
On June 14 2011 02:29 MapleFractal wrote:
On June 14 2011 02:14 GreEny K wrote:
On June 14 2011 00:06 Turenne wrote:
On June 13 2011 22:57 Megaliskuu wrote:
On June 13 2011 22:02 holycrapitsTony wrote:
On June 13 2011 21:54 GreEny K wrote:
On June 13 2011 19:52 Raigeki wrote:
On June 13 2011 19:15 DailYLeet wrote:
[quote]
kiwi to mouz ! then mout got a representant in america



kiwi canadian boiiiiiiiiii bwahahaha


Last time I checked... Canada was still part of America...


North America... not America.


Most people in Europe refer to America as one big single unit.


Only the ones that are geographically illiterate. Maybe you mean the 'Americas' though.


He didn't say US, he said America...


Im sorry you Euros don't get this, BUT think of it this way its like me saying Germans Brits, French, Italians are all the same cause they are located in the content of Europe. Wanna piss off Canadians, Tell us were American.

Learn to not be so damn ignorant.



I totally agree i am a canadian and we are from canada not us not america.

So Canada isn't in America? I guess my country isn't in Europe either, because we're a unique and glorious snowflake and to mix us with the rest of the continent would be the greatest of insults!


Hahahaha!

And to the Canadian who thought it would be like him calling us German Brits, French italians etc. No. It would be like you calling us European german, or European Italian. Which would be odd, but still correct. Sort of like calling you an American Canadian.
gamecreator
Profile Joined July 2010
United States24 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 23:59:51
June 13 2011 21:57 GMT
#1154
I was curious so I made a list.

Ladder Positions
3. KiWiKaKi (ROOT)
19. slush (ROOT)
27. Minigun (ROOT -> coL)
28. rsvp (coL)
30. CrunCher (coL)
61. Catz (ROOT -> coL)
69. Steak (aka stalife) (coL)
79. FireZerg (coL)
81. Destiny (ROOT -> coL)
101. Drewbie (ROOT -> coL)
113. Ryze (coL)
Not GM - ddoRo (ROOT -> coL)
Not GM - AntiMage, Ryan (coL)

Edited to correct Steak's standing, per Lunaro's post on the next page. Thanks!
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
June 13 2011 22:36 GMT
#1155
Don't wanna be rude but imo, Ryan and Antimage don't deserve to be in complexity anymore. Guys are good but not worthy of a team imo, well at least not in that team. Unless it's complexity's goal to have a huge roster.
@ggmonx
zakmaa
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada525 Posts
June 13 2011 22:37 GMT
#1156
Lake coming in big. Good pickup for Complexity, grats to everyone on ROOT as well.
ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
June 13 2011 22:45 GMT
#1157
LOL this thread is disgusting, some people in here really have their heads up their asses. Lets try and clear some things up. Me and CatZ tried very hard to make ROOT work, and to get our own sponsors and make it on our own. Unfortunately it has proved to be much, much harder than we ever thought, and even if we found 1 or 2 good sponsors, it would still not make us even close to enough money to compensate for all the hours it takes us to run ROOT. We did it for a very long time, not making any money at all and paying our own way to tournaments, because we loved the team and Starcraft 2, but unfortunately Starcraft 2 is not just a game for us, it is our livelihood, and we need to treat it as a business, and ROOT just didn't work as a business. Sponsors are looking for teams that have players that are willing to put themselves out there in the community and get exposure and do interviews and make videos and promote their product. We couldn't even get KiWiKaKi or Slush to post on the root-gaming.com website ffs, they only treated SC2 as a game, and that is 100% fine with me, they are amazing players and friends but they don't give a shit about the business side. The ROOT members that went to complexity are willing to work hard to make Starcraft work on a business level and complexity is a huge organization that has had many years of experience supporting the top players in the world and marketing them and helping them in every way. Just think about IdrA, before he joined EG he wasn't making any money, but EG showed IdrA how to treat the game as a business, and make training videos and cast and coach and stream and do tons of interviews and get himself out there. Complexity can give us this amazing support, so that we can play Starcraft full time, which in the end is best for the fans and viewers because it will produce better quality players and games. So I for one, am really happy to be joining complexity, as sad as I am that Slush and Kiwi will not be joining us, I do think that it is for the best, and I can promise that from now on I will step up my game, as I have more time to dedicate to practicing now, and I am a lot more motivated since I don't have to deal with running a team anymore.

It would be nice if everyone stopped bashing on me / catz / minigun / ddoro / destiny, and treating slush / kiwi like superstars LOL I know slush did really amazing at the last MLG but I did beat him in the group stages and in a tournament finals not too long ago and at MLG dallas 2010 finals so I am not sure why everyone thinks he is levels above everyone else in ROOT. I know that KiWiKaKi has always been our all-star player, but any team he joins will be sadly disappointed because he is asking for a LOT of money, and he is not even willing to post on the forums.

Anyways, I loved ROOT but it is time to move on, we are still the same people that you know and love, only now we have the support of a huge team to publicize / promote / send us to events which will only make us better players .
www.root-gaming.com
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
June 13 2011 22:49 GMT
#1158
Gratz Drewbie <3 Gratz Col! I'm glad for all of you! <3
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Destiny
Profile Joined May 2009
United States280 Posts
June 13 2011 22:50 GMT
#1159
On June 14 2011 07:45 coL.drewbie wrote:
LOL this thread is disgusting, some people in here really have their heads up their asses. Lets try and clear some things up. Me and CatZ tried very hard to make ROOT work, and to get our own sponsors and make it on our own. Unfortunately it has proved to be much, much harder than we ever thought, and even if we found 1 or 2 good sponsors, it would still not make us even close to enough money to compensate for all the hours it takes us to run ROOT. We did it for a very long time, not making any money at all and paying our own way to tournaments, because we loved the team and Starcraft 2, but unfortunately Starcraft 2 is not just a game for us, it is our livelihood, and we need to treat it as a business, and ROOT just didn't work as a business. Sponsors are looking for teams that have players that are willing to put themselves out there in the community and get exposure and do interviews and make videos and promote their product. We couldn't even get KiWiKaKi or Slush to post on the root-gaming.com website ffs, they only treated SC2 as a game, and that is 100% fine with me, they are amazing players and friends but they don't give a shit about the business side. The ROOT members that went to complexity are willing to work hard to make Starcraft work on a business level and complexity is a huge organization that has had many years of experience supporting the top players in the world and marketing them and helping them in every way. Just think about IdrA, before he joined EG he wasn't making any money, but EG showed IdrA how to treat the game as a business, and make training videos and cast and coach and stream and do tons of interviews and get himself out there. Complexity can give us this amazing support, so that we can play Starcraft full time, which in the end is best for the fans and viewers because it will produce better quality players and games. So I for one, am really happy to be joining complexity, as sad as I am that Slush and Kiwi will not be joining us, I do think that it is for the best, and I can promise that from now on I will step up my game, as I have more time to dedicate to practicing now, and I am a lot more motivated since I don't have to deal with running a team anymore.

It would be nice if everyone stopped bashing on me / catz / minigun / ddoro / destiny, and treating slush / kiwi like superstars LOL I know slush did really amazing at the last MLG but I did beat him in the group stages and in a tournament finals not too long ago and at MLG dallas 2010 finals so I am not sure why everyone thinks he is levels above everyone else in ROOT. I know that KiWiKaKi has always been our all-star player, but any team he joins will be sadly disappointed because he is asking for a LOT of money, and he is not even willing to post on the forums.

Anyways, I loved ROOT but it is time to move on, we are still the same people that you know and love, only now we have the support of a huge team to publicize / promote / send us to events which will only make us better players .


so wat u r saying is that kiwi + slush r true gamers who love esports and u and catz are just trying to get rich playin games lol?
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hewley
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1063 Posts
June 13 2011 22:51 GMT
#1160
Thanks for clarification Drewbie <3. Gogogogo practice hard and show us your real strength. =)
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