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papachad
Profile Joined June 2011
United States15 Posts
June 13 2011 00:29 GMT
#901
heard that kiwi and slush both went to FXO is this a rumor or confirmed?
shit happens when you party naked.
brutality
Profile Joined August 2010
United States167 Posts
June 13 2011 00:29 GMT
#902
On June 13 2011 09:01 Sheth wrote:
Sheth[Kiwikaki] gogo

lol oh sheth <3
whereismymind
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom717 Posts
June 13 2011 00:32 GMT
#903
Kiwi and Slush can own the scene alone in Root. But in the end money will win, and they will probably move.
one day.. i'll lose my mind
Pwnzer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States617 Posts
June 13 2011 00:34 GMT
#904
Congrats to the former ROOT members on getting a new team. Congrats to Complexity gaming on gaining some seriously talented players. I wish Kiwikaki and Slush the best in their future endeavors.

To the people that are claiming that Minigun isn't an ace level player, I urge you to watch his stream. I've watched his play get better and better and better over the past months. This isn't something that I'm just pulling out of thin air, it's something I've seen with my own eyes. You can't judge a player that hasn't been to many LAN events solely on his results. It just doesn't make sense to do it that way. So the only way to really know is to watch their play and judge for yourself. His game sense, crisis management, and knowledge of the match ups are amazing. Yes, his APM might not be the highest in NA, but he makes up for a lack thereof with the aforementioned abilities. Before some of you judge these players, you really should take the time to watch their streams and replays.

Herp Derp
ChiKenSouP
Profile Joined August 2010
United States36 Posts
June 13 2011 00:34 GMT
#905
I hope Kiwi goes to EG, that would just make them THAT much better.
EG fighting
Winning since day 1
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
June 13 2011 00:35 GMT
#906
yeh I would argue Minigun is the strongest on the team (obviously without Slush and Kiwi now).. Minigun's stream is awesome, especially when he plays IdrA lol
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
CapnCDaWg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States179 Posts
June 13 2011 00:37 GMT
#907
How's this affect ROOT in the EGMC?
Is coL taking their place?
rblstr
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland398 Posts
June 13 2011 00:38 GMT
#908
On June 13 2011 09:34 Pwnzer wrote:
Congrats to the former ROOT members on getting a new team. Congrats to Complexity gaming on gaining some seriously talented players. I wish Kiwikaki and Slush the best in their future endeavors.

To the people that are claiming that Minigun isn't an ace level player, I urge you to watch his stream. I've watched his play get better and better and better over the past months. This isn't something that I'm just pulling out of thin air, it's something I've seen with my own eyes. You can't judge a player that hasn't been to many LAN events solely on his results. It just doesn't make sense to do it that way. So the only way to really know is to watch their play and judge for yourself. His game sense, crisis management, and knowledge of the match ups are amazing. Yes, his APM might not be the highest in NA, but he makes up for a lack thereof with the aforementioned abilities. Before some of you judge these players, you really should take the time to watch their streams and replays.



QFT
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
June 13 2011 00:39 GMT
#909
On June 13 2011 09:34 Pwnzer wrote:
Congrats to the former ROOT members on getting a new team. Congrats to Complexity gaming on gaining some seriously talented players. I wish Kiwikaki and Slush the best in their future endeavors.

To the people that are claiming that Minigun isn't an ace level player, I urge you to watch his stream. I've watched his play get better and better and better over the past months. This isn't something that I'm just pulling out of thin air, it's something I've seen with my own eyes. You can't judge a player that hasn't been to many LAN events solely on his results. It just doesn't make sense to do it that way. So the only way to really know is to watch their play and judge for yourself. His game sense, crisis management, and knowledge of the match ups are amazing. Yes, his APM might not be the highest in NA, but he makes up for a lack thereof with the aforementioned abilities. Before some of you judge these players, you really should take the time to watch their streams and replays.




So now to judge a player we have to watch their stream for hours and hours? I've watched Minigun in online tournies, he's okay. Good, but certainly not amazing. I'd be hesistant to call him the new col ace.
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Samuel Neptune
Profile Joined May 2011
United States95 Posts
June 13 2011 00:42 GMT
#910
it would be awesome to see kiwikaki go to eg
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
June 13 2011 00:45 GMT
#911
On June 13 2011 09:39 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 09:34 Pwnzer wrote:
Congrats to the former ROOT members on getting a new team. Congrats to Complexity gaming on gaining some seriously talented players. I wish Kiwikaki and Slush the best in their future endeavors.

To the people that are claiming that Minigun isn't an ace level player, I urge you to watch his stream. I've watched his play get better and better and better over the past months. This isn't something that I'm just pulling out of thin air, it's something I've seen with my own eyes. You can't judge a player that hasn't been to many LAN events solely on his results. It just doesn't make sense to do it that way. So the only way to really know is to watch their play and judge for yourself. His game sense, crisis management, and knowledge of the match ups are amazing. Yes, his APM might not be the highest in NA, but he makes up for a lack thereof with the aforementioned abilities. Before some of you judge these players, you really should take the time to watch their streams and replays.




So now to judge a player we have to watch their stream for hours and hours? I've watched Minigun in online tournies, he's okay. Good, but certainly not amazing. I'd be hesistant to call him the new col ace.


He means that Minigun will become better and better in a short amount of time.

And the guy is indeed a really good talent - it isn't easy to just come from zero RTS experience to his level the way he did.
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Bart
Profile Joined November 2010
494 Posts
June 13 2011 00:46 GMT
#912
On June 13 2011 09:39 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 09:34 Pwnzer wrote:
Congrats to the former ROOT members on getting a new team. Congrats to Complexity gaming on gaining some seriously talented players. I wish Kiwikaki and Slush the best in their future endeavors.

To the people that are claiming that Minigun isn't an ace level player, I urge you to watch his stream. I've watched his play get better and better and better over the past months. This isn't something that I'm just pulling out of thin air, it's something I've seen with my own eyes. You can't judge a player that hasn't been to many LAN events solely on his results. It just doesn't make sense to do it that way. So the only way to really know is to watch their play and judge for yourself. His game sense, crisis management, and knowledge of the match ups are amazing. Yes, his APM might not be the highest in NA, but he makes up for a lack thereof with the aforementioned abilities. Before some of you judge these players, you really should take the time to watch their streams and replays.




So now to judge a player we have to watch their stream for hours and hours? I've watched Minigun in online tournies, he's okay. Good, but certainly not amazing. I'd be hesistant to call him the new col ace.


I have to agree Eris. Playing well in the comfort of your room does not make you an "ace level player" or even a pro gamer for that matter. He has to perform and place well at LAN events to show that he can play at the highest stage. Being a professional at whatever sport is about playing well at the highest stage. Its just simply that.
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Ascendance
Profile Joined March 2011
United States57 Posts
June 13 2011 00:48 GMT
#913
Aww Kiwikaki... Still major team changing and improving by complexity
Bunker rushing <3
st4nta
Profile Joined April 2011
United States215 Posts
June 13 2011 00:50 GMT
#914
On June 13 2011 09:34 Pwnzer wrote:
Congrats to the former ROOT members on getting a new team. Congrats to Complexity gaming on gaining some seriously talented players. I wish Kiwikaki and Slush the best in their future endeavors.

To the people that are claiming that Minigun isn't an ace level player, I urge you to watch his stream. I've watched his play get better and better and better over the past months. This isn't something that I'm just pulling out of thin air, it's something I've seen with my own eyes. You can't judge a player that hasn't been to many LAN events solely on his results. It just doesn't make sense to do it that way. So the only way to really know is to watch their play and judge for yourself. His game sense, crisis management, and knowledge of the match ups are amazing. Yes, his APM might not be the highest in NA, but he makes up for a lack thereof with the aforementioned abilities. Before some of you judge these players, you really should take the time to watch their streams and replays.



When did players start getting judged by their performance on stream? You can win every single game on stream, but still do terribly on LAN events. For example, Select was rank 1 GM prior to MLG Columbus, but we all saw what happened. If you don't have the skill and mental toughness to attend and win at tournaments, it means nothing even if you beat Idra a thousand times on stream.
"OBAMA PROTOSS" "HuK is my warp prism" -MC
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 00:52:06
June 13 2011 00:50 GMT
#915
On June 13 2011 09:39 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 09:34 Pwnzer wrote:
Congrats to the former ROOT members on getting a new team. Congrats to Complexity gaming on gaining some seriously talented players. I wish Kiwikaki and Slush the best in their future endeavors.

To the people that are claiming that Minigun isn't an ace level player, I urge you to watch his stream. I've watched his play get better and better and better over the past months. This isn't something that I'm just pulling out of thin air, it's something I've seen with my own eyes. You can't judge a player that hasn't been to many LAN events solely on his results. It just doesn't make sense to do it that way. So the only way to really know is to watch their play and judge for yourself. His game sense, crisis management, and knowledge of the match ups are amazing. Yes, his APM might not be the highest in NA, but he makes up for a lack thereof with the aforementioned abilities. Before some of you judge these players, you really should take the time to watch their streams and replays.




So now to judge a player we have to watch their stream for hours and hours? I've watched Minigun in online tournies, he's okay. Good, but certainly not amazing. I'd be hesistant to call him the new col ace.


To the underlined part, actually yes watching their stream for a few hours will give you a much better grasp. I'm actually surprised by your reaction... it's like "So now we have to watch a player play games rather than just perpetuate the stereotype that Minigun is bad because I saw other people on TL say it (edit: or watched a few games), even though he is beating many good players quite often?"

To clarify, much of that wasn't actually directed at you, but the point is a lot of people just hear "Minigun isn't a good player" and then that word travels all around TL. I'm also not sure if he is an Ace quality player, but we will have to see.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
June 13 2011 00:55 GMT
#916
On June 13 2011 09:39 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 09:34 Pwnzer wrote:
Congrats to the former ROOT members on getting a new team. Congrats to Complexity gaming on gaining some seriously talented players. I wish Kiwikaki and Slush the best in their future endeavors.

To the people that are claiming that Minigun isn't an ace level player, I urge you to watch his stream. I've watched his play get better and better and better over the past months. This isn't something that I'm just pulling out of thin air, it's something I've seen with my own eyes. You can't judge a player that hasn't been to many LAN events solely on his results. It just doesn't make sense to do it that way. So the only way to really know is to watch their play and judge for yourself. His game sense, crisis management, and knowledge of the match ups are amazing. Yes, his APM might not be the highest in NA, but he makes up for a lack thereof with the aforementioned abilities. Before some of you judge these players, you really should take the time to watch their streams and replays.




So now to judge a player we have to watch their stream for hours and hours? I've watched Minigun in online tournies, he's okay. Good, but certainly not amazing. I'd be hesistant to call him the new col ace.


So who would you call the Col ace? Just wondering... Minigun is easily comparable to Cruncher, so if they'd play Cruncher as their ace, I'd go ahead and say Minigun could possibly perform equally well if not better.
Omer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Israel442 Posts
June 13 2011 01:02 GMT
#917
On June 13 2011 09:01 Sheth wrote:
Sheth[Kiwikaki] gogo


[F]kiwikaki[X]Sheth[O] gogo???
Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
June 13 2011 01:04 GMT
#918


actually yes watching their stream for a few hours will give you a much better grasp


Cool shit.

So watching IdrA leave 8/10 times he gets 2 rax marine/scv all-inned in ZvT on ladder gives a good grasp on the way he handles the matchup. /facepalm

For the most part - ladder is a way of trying new strategies and keeping mechanics sharp, nothing more. Get real.
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rblstr
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland398 Posts
June 13 2011 01:04 GMT
#919
On June 13 2011 09:50 st4nta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 09:34 Pwnzer wrote:
Congrats to the former ROOT members on getting a new team. Congrats to Complexity gaming on gaining some seriously talented players. I wish Kiwikaki and Slush the best in their future endeavors.

To the people that are claiming that Minigun isn't an ace level player, I urge you to watch his stream. I've watched his play get better and better and better over the past months. This isn't something that I'm just pulling out of thin air, it's something I've seen with my own eyes. You can't judge a player that hasn't been to many LAN events solely on his results. It just doesn't make sense to do it that way. So the only way to really know is to watch their play and judge for yourself. His game sense, crisis management, and knowledge of the match ups are amazing. Yes, his APM might not be the highest in NA, but he makes up for a lack thereof with the aforementioned abilities. Before some of you judge these players, you really should take the time to watch their streams and replays.



When did players start getting judged by their performance on stream? You can win every single game on stream, but still do terribly on LAN events. For example, Select was rank 1 GM prior to MLG Columbus, but we all saw what happened. If you don't have the skill and mental toughness to attend and win at tournaments, it means nothing even if you beat Idra a thousand times on stream.


Skill is skill, no matter what the venue. You can't deny that.
Rhodan
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 01:08:55
June 13 2011 01:07 GMT
#920
Never was a huge root fan personally, but I appreciate the excitement that a smaller, more personal team can generate for the community/entertainment and hopefully some of that can still shine through at complexity but I doubt it.

Kinda funny that the two players really worth pursuing didn't make the move (kiwi and slush), the only player left who can really compete close to a professional level there is Drewbie, though with better support I could see Minigun doing well. Depending on how much they spent on acquiring root, I really don't see how this was a good move for Complexity, but I guess time will tell
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