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Kerpz

Canada6 Posts

June 12 2011 20:54 GMT

#701

Congrats guys!

Edited for length

TT1

Canada10016 Posts

June 12 2011 20:54 GMT

#702

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Lite Kirby

United States74 Posts

June 12 2011 20:54 GMT

#703

Minigun fighting! Sad to see ROOT go though.

Enox

Germany1667 Posts

June 12 2011 20:54 GMT

#704

i think kiwi will be a second Grubby. he often said that he got enough money from playing poker. why should he join a new team if he has enough money to "sponsor" himself? i dont think we will see him joining another team anytime soon

Barbiero

Brazil5259 Posts

June 12 2011 20:55 GMT

#705

On June 13 2011 05:47 rblstr wrote:
People need to stop basing their opinion of players on what that douche IdrA says. He makes it his priority to say that other players are shit. Minigun is a fucking GREAT protoss, and deserves more recognition. Just because IdrA bitches about him doesn't mean he's bad. Goddamn it grinds my gears. Especially because IdrA is a painfully "fine" player, nothing special. Base your opinion of players on watching them play, its the only way you can form a valid opinion of a player.

I'm sorry to say it but, IdrA is only the best mechanic of North America, hands down. Give me one player, one single SC2 player that has the same mechanics(or better) as IdrA and you can say anything about him.

Not that I agree with what IdrA says, but it pisses me off when people regard him as a "fine" player. Being a prick, a bad mannered person, etc has nothing to do with his skill level. And his skill level has nothing to do with his judgement of other players. Right or wrong, IdrA is the best North American player, mechanic-wise, and one of the best(if not the straight up best - up for discussion) player in NA.

MenSol[ZerO]

Canada1134 Posts

June 12 2011 20:56 GMT

#706

Liquid Kiwi

PLZ

Xova

United States342 Posts

June 12 2011 20:56 GMT

#707

Gogo to my favorite team Kiwi!!!

SixPackAbs

United States160 Posts

June 12 2011 20:56 GMT

#708

On June 13 2011 05:54 TT1 wrote:
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What would idra think about this quote?

too bad he's still banned

najreteip

Belgium4158 Posts

June 12 2011 20:57 GMT

#709

I don't... understand...

rblstr

Ireland398 Posts

June 12 2011 20:57 GMT

#710

On June 13 2011 05:49 MrDudeMan wrote:

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If you followed your own advice, you would see that idra is more then a "fine" player.

I've observed IdrA play countless times, and I still root for him when he plays tourneys like MLG (I really wanted him to do better in that). I had a higher opinion of IdrA before actually watching him play on stream and paying attention to his tounament games. The only time I've been impressed by IdrA was the first 2 games vs MC at MLG and winning the IGN league.

On the other hand, I've been watching Minigun play from the beginning and I'm totally blown away by his progress so far, and I think he's an incredibly solid player who has big things in his future if he starts to play the tournament scene more.

But thats besides the fact, what I'm trying to say is that people seem to have a low opinion of Mini because IdrA said he was shit. Which is further than the truth. (I also think Cruncher doesn't deserve the hate that IdrA spaws, but I won't get into that argument again after the TSL)

ROOTFayth

Canada3351 Posts

June 12 2011 20:57 GMT

#711

On June 13 2011 05:36 Titorelli wrote:
Wait what is it true that Kiwi is a millionaire cause of poker??? Is it that easy to make millione in such a short time? My mind is blown :o
Why does he play sc2 then instead of making even more money with poker?

1st off he isn't millionaire
2nd it's not easy to make millions off poker
3rd he plays sc2 cuz it's a lot more fun than playing poker, also much less stressful

edc

United States666 Posts

June 12 2011 20:58 GMT

#712

compLexity Gaming just got way cooler.

haticK

United States74 Posts

June 12 2011 20:58 GMT

#713

QFT

Falcor

Canada894 Posts

June 12 2011 20:58 GMT

#714

On June 13 2011 05:55 Zephirdd wrote:

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He has the best mechanics. But he doesnt have the right mentality imo. And i think its easier to get better mechanics(just alot of practice) then change your entire mentality. Also saying he really doesnt need to practise alot until other north americans are at his level in mechanics makes me sad.

But with that said he is still a amazing player and calling him fine is a bit crazy

cavalier117

United States430 Posts

June 12 2011 20:58 GMT

#715

On June 13 2011 05:51 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:

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On June 13 2011 05:32 cavalier117 wrote:

On June 13 2011 05:25 Mordiford wrote:

On June 13 2011 05:21 cavalier117 wrote:

On June 13 2011 05:10 Mordiford wrote:

On June 13 2011 04:53 Falcor wrote:

On June 13 2011 04:51 ROOTFayth wrote:
so minigun beating kiwi in the root invitational finals a while ago and him beating idra 2-1 in the latest clan war and him qualifying for last IPL by beating hasuobs and other good players i believe doesn't count?

is MLG the only thing that people really care about?

Since esports became big, lan results have really only been the only thing that matters. Online events are cool and all but champions are made at lan

Well then, I guess we differ here, online results count just as well, even though I enjoy LAN tournaments more and believe there is more pressure in this format, it doesn't mean I discredit the online accomplishments of players considering how many big online tournaments there are.

Also, as said earlier, we don't know the financial specifics of this deal, so speculation there is kind of pointless, but I will point out once again that the players they acquired(regardless of the absence of Kiwikaki and Slush) are comparable with, or better than the best players on their own roster.

Like I said earlier, once again though, I feel it's a weird situation for fans since ROOT is no longer ROOT and Complexity is no longer Complexity, the members of ROOT will no doubt shake up the line-up and this will no doubt draw attention away from the original members of Complexity, essentially it's some dilution of the value of both teams individually which creates a new potentially stronger team as a whole but it's not really ROOT and it's not really Complexity. Moving forward we'll see if this pairing really is beneficial for both parties, but for now I wish the new Complexity good luck and I'll reserve major judgement until we see how it turns out.

On June 13 2011 05:10 cavalier117 wrote:

Minigun's root invitational finals was a prepatch PvP (aka 4 gate coin flip) he won against IdrA in ONE set of the match. and he didnt even win the IPL 2 qualifier. (he placed 3rd)and none of them were LAN settings.

He's beaten IdrA in more than the EGMC. He placed third behind other great players, and has done well in a number of tournaments. I don't really see the argument here, is it simply that he doesn't have LAN experience? Alright, acknowledged. He's still a great fucking player.

Are you saying Combatex is good then? he's taken a few wins off IdrA and done well in Tourneys (the collegiate starleague before he got kicked off lolz)
im sure you dont think combatex is good. (me neither) nor is he in the same league as minigun (i dont think so either) but your logic follows what i said, so i'd reevaluate your reasoning why you think he's good. cuz your evidence doesnt add up.

Wait, what? I thought we were being reasonable here, by this move let's discredit everyone without top wins in LAN tournaments, you'd get left with like 4 or 5 players you could call good in all of North America. Combatex has taken wins of IdrA, in what tournaments or show matches? In what tournaments has he done well in? Getting kicked off the collegiate starleague clearly isn't an accomplishment, he doesn't even have a TLPD page. Don't try to use shitty logic to discredit a really good player.

you really need to google Combatex, he, like minigun has taken wins off IdrA on the ladder. he hasnt beat IdrA in a tourny, but minigun hasnt WON any money in tourney (at least, yet) for beating IdrA so thats not very relevant. and bo3 doesnt make a trend. as for the CSL. he was pretty much the Ace player of the university of waterloo (the best college in the league) before getting kicked off bc hes an idiot. as for the lack for of a TLPD page. im pretty sure a paticular TL admin has something to do with it (chill)

If you're seriously arguing that Combat-Ex is as good or better than Minigun, then you have a problem. That's all I really have to say about that.

In regards to contractual stuff, yeah it's a confidentiality issue not a moral issue, but YOU asked about contractual details so you can't call people out for saying that the question can't be answered when there's obviously confidentiality issues with the 'worth' of players.

can you read? i ask this because you clearly dont understand the statement above. i mean, you couldnt even gather from that i called them both bad (which i didnt) the point was me asking the poster why he thought minigun was good, because based on his argument and his examples provided. that would mean that Combatex would also be considered good. which i dont think anyone thinks he is. so by his argument, it doesnt make sense. go crawl back in your cave now.