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RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
June 07 2011 14:57 GMT
#81
The question is how many will watch the playoff.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
June 07 2011 14:59 GMT
#82
considering the people behind the nasl are some of the same people calling for cooperation between leagues i was suprised that they even aired week 8 on an mlg weekend.
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 15:11:47
June 07 2011 15:09 GMT
#83
They need to figure out a new system. Its not exciting enough to watch the groups play out online over 3 months. You know people suffer with lagg and alot of the games just arent at a high level. None of the games have the feel of importance

I would suggest they seperate the different zones and have the league play out abit faster with smaller price pool. I watch alot of Sc2, but NASL have just fallen off my radar lately, pretty much not watched any of the matches in weeks.

It would be cool when you get the best of the different zones and then they play eachother in offline event after maby 2 months.
schmeebs
Profile Joined August 2010
United States115 Posts
June 07 2011 15:15 GMT
#84
I think the results for this last week are probably a little bit skewed because of MLG< they probably would have been better off playing those sunday/monday/tuesday instead of playing them thursday/friday/sat.
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
June 07 2011 15:18 GMT
#85
I'm pretty sure MLG hurt NASL a bit in week 8
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
June 07 2011 15:20 GMT
#86
Remember that part of NASL's mission is to provide something almost every night in the US, just like a real sport. I don't know how much it matters if the LR threads are short when they're still pulling down 10k+ viewers (mostly 15k+ when I'm watching) each night.

It might be nice for spectators if the group stage were shorter, but unless there are a lot of player complaints I don't think it's time to change.
Authweight
Profile Joined May 2010
United States304 Posts
June 07 2011 15:21 GMT
#87
I wonder if it would be better to have each division play itself out over the course of two weeks, then move on to the next division, having each division play all its matches before showing the next division. This would make scheduling easier on the players (seems to me like its easier to take a couple weeks and plan on playing every night than to remember to schedule around the same night for many weeks in a row), and it would make the drama of group stage easier to follow and more exciting.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 07 2011 15:22 GMT
#88
MLG Crushed Nasl in week 8 i took a peak and saw only 200 viewers each night

As I live reporter I gave up with the Nasl reports a while back as people just wasn't interested in them as they are with GSL etc
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
June 07 2011 15:26 GMT
#89
considering the people behind the nasl are some of the same people calling for cooperation between leagues i was suprised that they even aired week 8 on an mlg weekend.


It really makes no sense to me that at least 2 day of those days weren't just aired yesterday and tonight instead since relatively little is going on now.
Syben
Profile Joined October 2010
United States512 Posts
June 07 2011 15:27 GMT
#90
Personally I stopped watching the NASL stream and am only checking out the LR thread for results. Something about it not being live is a big turn off for me and it happens SO often combined with the fact that its prerecorded kinda lost its appeal for me.
Definitely gonna switch to G, the only race I havent played yet. - TLO
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
June 07 2011 15:29 GMT
#91
I would like to note that while the number of post and views has declined significantly from the first week, the viewership for the two time periods typically combines to about 30k viewers of the livestream. I typically keep it open without commenting on TL, and I wouldn't be surprised if that is fairly typical that folks are keeping abreast of the games and players they like but not bothering to comment on it here.

In summation, awareness and interest likely remains high (despite the drop off from week 1) as the quality of NASL has gradually gone up. I imagine this last week, without MLG to get in the way, will get tons of attention and the playoffs will be equivalent to the TSL or possibly even MLG. Don't forget, TSL viewership also greatly resembled this this trend with really high initial viewers followed by a big fall off in the middling weeks.
VirtuallyJesse
Profile Joined February 2011
United States398 Posts
June 07 2011 15:33 GMT
#92
I stopped caring about NASL after seeing so many walkovers. Why should I care when the players don't care enough to show up for their matches?
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
June 07 2011 15:39 GMT
#93
stream numbers are more important to be honest... if there are epic games or there is controversy then people post more. having said that NASL shot themselves in the foot with the awful week 1 plus the drawn out divisional play is hard to care about. walkovers are also terrible and put everyone off.

pretty dumb to air at the same time as mlg though, especially when NASL are supposed to be advocating co-operation between other LANs since its of benefit for everyone...
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
thee telescopes
Profile Joined August 2010
321 Posts
June 07 2011 16:12 GMT
#94
Nine weeks of division play does really hurt the tournament. Shorter tournaments with smaller prize pools seem to make more sense in general, too, they're easier to stay interested in and the prize money tends to get distributed more evenly between the top players.

Saying that though NASL still seems to be getting 25k viewers a day between the two streams which is really impressive.
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
June 07 2011 17:13 GMT
#95
NASL league takes too long.

after playday1 i was basically just checking results now and then and waiting for playoffs
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
June 07 2011 18:04 GMT
#96
I don't think those stats looks to bad. If you ignore the first and last week that both have extreem viewers for different reasons, it looks pretty stable. That the viewers might drop as more games means less is understandable. The big question is how much it will increase/decrease in the playoff. I bet we'll see a reasonable climb again.
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 19:09:52
June 07 2011 19:06 GMT
#97
Stream numbers may be more important but it's obvious there's some correlation between interest in a tournament and the activity of it's LR thread. It may not specifically be a casual relationship between viewer number and LR posts as LR thread's also contain a lot of spam about certain things that happen that are related to the tournament in some way, not exclusively about the games themselves.

For example, the Week 8 Day 5 thread was about 14 pages after the broadcast itself. Now it's getting close to 40 mainly due to comments regarding Painuser's and the NASL organiser's communication failures (to put it as neutrally and non inflammatory as possible).
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
June 07 2011 19:10 GMT
#98
Nothing wrong with the ambition NASL has but:
- too long process
- too many games that doesn't mean anything
- the production quality is not that high

overall much less interesting than GSL.

i have limited time and choose to watch the best league GSL and then the special tourneys MLG Dreamhack etc
Karthane
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1183 Posts
June 07 2011 19:11 GMT
#99
I don't see too big of a problem for NASL. Sure the live report threads aren't booming but the views are there. Apart from MLG weekend they constantly have 10-15k viewers which i think is great for the first season, and i'm sure once we close in on the finals that number will only grow.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
June 07 2011 19:15 GMT
#100
Awww, that sucks as someone who follows NASL pretty frequently I do have noticed that the LR threads are becoming less active(but really the last few ones have been inactive because everybody was on the MLG LR threads)

But I don't think this is a good indicator of viewership.
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