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Hey folks. I know a lot of people liked Xeph's stream, and out of respect for him I didn't share this until now. Here is a quick and short guide to watching Korean progamer or high level players streams.
What Xeph has been saying for the most part is false (nor was it a favour to tl,). Most progamers won't stream unless they want to, regardless of wether somebody asks them to or not. and if they wanted to stream on tl, it would be easy for them to do so. All we were doing is just taking numbers of their streams.
Daum player is watchable from outside Korea. There is though a few (i've only encountered maybe 6 or 7 sc2 streams) that are restricted to people who have a Daum account, which requires a Korean ID. You will tell this by either a happy face or a lock on the top left of the stream image. If you have a Korean ID, you can watch those.
But otherwise most streams don't require this and are watchable (in HD) from anywhere.
so lets get this show on the road. Here are the quick and simple steps to getting daum player on and working.
1, go here http://tvpot.daum.net/live/ and click the clearly labeled player download on the right side of the screen.
2, once downloaded install the program. THe only issue i've had is the fact that it installs a "Daum cleaner" which is a cheap disk cleanup thing. You can uninstall that after the installition is complete.
3. some media files will be associated with Daum player. Which can be charged by right clicking your media files and using the open with command and then changing the program used to open with to your preference. Though Daum is a Decent media player overall and if your not picky you can skip this step.
4. Click on the daum player Icon and get it to load up.
5. There will be a list of streams on the right side of the program. There are little arrows near the bottom of the side bar. use this to natvigate pages.
6, if you are looking for sc2 streams only. Just type in 스타2 for sc2 streams.
7, You're done. Now whenever your feeling in the mood, you can load up daum player and watch a stream. Though I can't say there will be streams on all the time. most evenings Korean time have a few streams going on. Just lat week I watched oGsTop stream for about an hour.
Sorry if this guide seems lacking a bit. I wanted it to be rather simple and consice without making the entire thing look over complicated. Nor do I know Korean, so I can't tell you exactly what options are there. Just look around the setting yourself and eventually you'll figure them out.
Also for all you fans of COH and BW. there are channels that appear for both games. with BW being the most.
I also see large amounts of Anime streams. So you Anime fans, This is the player for you.
EDIT: Guide to getting an account on Daum. Now you can get all stream. Thanks Kiante and Boblhead for the guides.
http://imageshack.us/f/853/daumguide.jpg/
On May 26 2011 17:43 Kiante wrote:the guide(images are massive, i'm bad at paint, sorry) + Show Spoiler [lol image size] +go to daum.net and click on the thing circled in red ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tBbYf.png) then click on the bottom option (circled) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/v8o3p.png) Tick both these boxes and click the blue button ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/dbspd.png) fill in details as shown(if it doesn't get a tick, try a new username) then click the circled button ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Xb6Yv.png) You should get this email, copy the number in the first line of the grey box ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Qo2Zw.png) put the number in this box and click the circled button ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/g13OP.png) Fill out captcha and click circled box ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PecXa.png) all done, u can use this login in the daum player when it requires ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/TRfc6.png)
There Seems to be some problems with europeans having some bad lag with Daum. If this is the case, please let me know
Also you cannot lower the quality of the stream ,you get what you get
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i think i miss installed mine smhow, it only install they offline player which serve same as VLC, i cant find the online stream player
edit: nvm, i uninstal and got it, extreme laggy but quality is at least 720p o.O...
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This is amazing it actually works. If only I could read Korean so I can figure out who I'm actually watching it would be even better lol.. maybe someone will post translations so we know who's who?
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On May 26 2011 15:02 Ezze wrote:
This is amazing it actually works. If only I could read Korean so I can figure out who I'm actually watching it would be even better lol.. maybe someone will post translations so we know who's who?
most pro players names are in english. So most players who are competing at that level will have english names. Otherwise they might be high level amatuers (and they will have Koren names)
On May 26 2011 15:02 NB wrote:
i think i miss installed mine smhow, it only install they offline player which serve same as VLC, i cant find the online stream player
The program comes with online stream thing as dealfault. So check all start menu shortcuts.
The guides there are for the most part outdated, so thats why I didn't link to them, but they are for sure useful. The translations do not work with the current build, trying them might crash Daum
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Well it is the guide I used so I thought I would put it out there. No worries though.
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On May 26 2011 15:11 Kralic wrote:
Well it is the guide I used so I thought I would put it out there. No worries though.
Its cool. For the most part the basic info is the same. Though most would not even look for those guides. hence why I posted this one with updated info.
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Watching this guy 스타2 미생물저그 개인화면 play IMMVP right now lol
Anyone know who he is? His mechanics are probably the best I've ever seen.
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so i am able to watchj this from like germany or so aswell?
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On May 26 2011 15:16 HappyZerg wrote:
so i am able to watchj this from like germany or so aswell?
Try it. I'm in canada and it works. So I would assume ti works in most places. If you find out it does not work in certain places. Let me know and I'll edit the OP
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it works but its free and legal?
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Have to remember it is not all progamers, a lot are in silver through to diamond. It is just a streaming service for them like jtv or ustream.
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when i try starting a stream/video, it just freezes on me :/
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Thanks for this! Now i can play even less and watch more!
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On May 26 2011 15:19 HappyZerg wrote:
it works but its free and legal?
Why would it break the law. Daum is very well known in Korea. Even sponsoring a OSL or MSL at one point.
On May 26 2011 15:23 nitdkim wrote:
when i try starting a stream/video, it just freezes on me :/
Might be buffering the stream. Or it could be an internet issue on your end.
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Wow, nice! Downloading now! I really should have taken korean but hten again... I'm a silverleague player, there's absolutely no hope for me to reach the level they are.
YOu have... okay, you probably do, but it was so extremely strange just going on a leap of faith that this wasn't an, "explode my computer and fill it with horse porn" thingy.
Super laggy though... can' watch it at all :" (
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Thanks! watching 스타2 미생물저그 개인화면 now too lol
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Thank you so much for this man.
Anyone else watching ArthurRazor vs some T
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On May 26 2011 15:27 njnick wrote:
Thank you so much for this man.
Anyone else watching ArthurRazor vs some T
The amount of screen clutter on that stream...
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I got it working, but my internet seriously needs some chronoboost to stop the buffering.
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nice thank you so much. seems like the koreans dont know that u have to play in Windowed[fullscreen] when u stream. if u dont the screen flickers for the viewers
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I seriously think we need like a LR thread of Korean streams to keep everyone updated when they see a good game about to go down. Kinda like how the MvC3 thread gets a bump to remind people of WNF or a good match that happened.
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why does the screen blinks everytime?any way i can fix that?
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On May 26 2011 15:51 SGKhaii wrote:
why does the screen blinks everytime?any way i can fix that?
Thats on their end. They usually stream Fullscreen, which means the stream flickers. Not our issue. just them not streaming properly. Better than nothing though
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This is awesome, thanks for sharing!! Also is it me or mostly Zergs stream 
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oh ok..thanks btw...im watching zerg oo.who is that?
스타2 미생물저그 개인화면
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My player crashed. I reopened it then the right side is now blank so I can't search for streams. I can't read Korean so I don't know how to get back. Help me please? 
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Thanks for the guide. Unfortunately this is really laggy for me. I have an ~16mbit connection but it doesn't seem to help.
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The quality is actually _sick_.
Btw, is the player darkblueish? Just to know that i have the right one.. i found 3 streams when i searched Sc2.
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On May 26 2011 16:01 pt wrote:My player crashed. I reopened it then the right side is now blank so I can't search for streams. I can't read Korean so I don't know how to get back. Help me please?
There is a little tiny arrow in the right side of the daum player when you hover over the right side. Slick on it. they will reappear.
On May 26 2011 16:01 Severian wrote:Thanks for the guide. Unfortunately this is really laggy for me. I have an ~16mbit connection but it doesn't seem to help.
I have a 3mb connectiong and downloading a torrent as well as watching stream, it works for me. So I guess thats an issue with your location.
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On May 26 2011 16:04 masterbreti wrote:
There is a little tiny arrow in the right side of the daum player when you hover over the right side. Slick on it. they will reappear.
thanks, but all it did was attach the right window with the main window. i remember there was 3 tabs at the top of the right window. right now, i only have one.
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On May 26 2011 16:07 pt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 16:04 masterbreti wrote:
There is a little tiny arrow in the right side of the daum player when you hover over the right side. Slick on it. they will reappear.
thanks, but all it did was attach the right window with the main window. i remember there was 3 tabs at the top of the right window. right now, i only have one.
hmm. Did you click the correct shortcut? there are 3 of them. maybe you clicked the wrong one. In the worst case you can't solve it, just reinstall.
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On May 26 2011 16:11 masterbreti wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 16:07 pt wrote:On May 26 2011 16:04 masterbreti wrote:
There is a little tiny arrow in the right side of the daum player when you hover over the right side. Slick on it. they will reappear.
thanks, but all it did was attach the right window with the main window. i remember there was 3 tabs at the top of the right window. right now, i only have one. hmm. Did you click the correct shortcut? there are 3 of them. maybe you clicked the wrong one. In the worst case you can't solve it, just reinstall.
yes, there 3 tabs, but after crashing, only 1 tab appears, the other are gone.
I reinstalled the program, but got crashed again, and same thing happened.
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Does no one in Korea watch streams? I'm seeing only one stream with over 20 viewers and it looks like an MVP vs zenex clan war thing.
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Can foreigners register to daum? Someone make a guide how to if possible. 
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On May 26 2011 16:22 Grettin wrote:Is it possible to foreigner register to Daum? Someone make a guide how to if possible.
Like i metioned. You would need a Korean ID to do so. so unless we all know Koreans, or are Korean. I don't see a way around that
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On May 26 2011 16:24 masterbreti wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 16:22 Grettin wrote:Is it possible to foreigner register to Daum? Someone make a guide how to if possible. Like i metioned. You would need a Korean ID to do so. so unless we all know Koreans, or are Korean. I don't see a way around that
Ah okay, missed that. Thanks!
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I deselected everything on the installation and I think it came out pretty clean and I can watch streams normally, I just can't see to find much streams going on.. Dunno if I messed up but here is my feedback (:
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Sweeet more streams to watch! But ya it is a little laggy , its in HD by default has any1 figured out how to change the quality?
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I'm watching a guy but i don't think hes a pro, i would suggest you keep the thread updated with progamers that stream, so people would know when to watch otherwise your better off just watching jtv or somthing.
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HUH?
You just dropped this like a fucking bomb!
Is it only me that reacts to two things:
1. Xeph was lying (you don't need to be in Korea nor was it a favor for TL)
2. And you not telling this because "out of respect for Xeph"
Thanks for sharing though but I found the whole Xeph is lying to TL a bit awkward.
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You can make accounts on daum without a korean id, because i have one...cant remember exactly how i did it, i remember selecting the third option down in the selection screen tho....if that helps...i just felt my way through it
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On May 26 2011 16:46 papaz wrote:
HUH?
You just dropped this like a fucking bomb!
Is it only me that reacts to two things:
1. Xeph was lying (you don't need to be in Korea nor was it a favor for TL)
2. And you not telling this because "out of respect for Xeph"
Thanks for sharing though but I found the whole Xeph is lying to TL a bit awkward.
Well I knew about the streams for a while, but I knew Xeph was restreaming and possibly making money from justin.tv ads. So I didn't want to ruin that for him. thats why I did it tonight cause I have not seen his stream on in so long.
Also on the topic on not many streams. Its only like 4pm there. evening time and late night there are more (korean time of course)
On May 26 2011 16:47 Kiante wrote:
You can make accounts on daum without a korean id, because i have one...cant remember exactly how i did it, i remember selecting the third option down in the selection screen tho....if that helps...i just felt my way through it
I always assumed you knew a Korena or something. If you ever decide to write a guide. you will have my eternal love. not that you don't already for streaming msl and osl and pl
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Sounds pretty cool if a ton of people get it going for themselves and everything works without any virus or weird stuff I'll jump in line and follow suit. Love me some streams!
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It works just fine, there's just no streams right now except 2 people ladders and a protoss from Mvp tearing through randoms while a guy commentates.
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Ummm when I open the streams they are playing upside down anyone else getting this?
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On May 26 2011 16:58 RaLakedaimon wrote:
Sounds pretty cool if a ton of people get it going for themselves and everything works without any virus or weird stuff I'll jump in line and follow suit. Love me some streams!
Well the daum player has been used for years for bw players, so it works fine. its new to sc2 community though.
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On May 26 2011 16:46 papaz wrote:
HUH?
You just dropped this like a fucking bomb!
Is it only me that reacts to two things:
1. Xeph was lying (you don't need to be in Korea nor was it a favor for TL)
2. And you not telling this because "out of respect for Xeph"
Thanks for sharing though but I found the whole Xeph is lying to TL a bit awkward.
Of course it was in favor of TL.
I can't watch it properly, it buffers all the time.
Although he had contact with the programes so that they do stream.
Do you think they stream in the public so that everyone can watch them play, even their next opponents?
You can watch people stream, but i guess 99% of them are mediocre players, or at least not in a famous team.
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On May 26 2011 17:11 Elefanto wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 16:46 papaz wrote:
HUH?
You just dropped this like a fucking bomb!
Is it only me that reacts to two things:
1. Xeph was lying (you don't need to be in Korea nor was it a favor for TL)
2. And you not telling this because "out of respect for Xeph"
Thanks for sharing though but I found the whole Xeph is lying to TL a bit awkward.
Of course it was in favor of TL. I can't watch it properly, it buffers all the time. Although he had contact with the programes so that they do stream. Do you think they stream in the public so that everyone can watch them play, even their next opponents? You can watch people stream, but i guess 99% of them are mediocre players, or at least not in a famous team.
Many players from Zenex use daum. I've seen players from MVP. Slayers, oGs. and many others use Daum. Daum is pulbic, its not that issue for sure. anyone can go on daum and watch them, Korean players usually don't if they have a big match in the next few days.
And on the buffering. thats sometimes is an issue on a stream by stream basis. I have no problems some days, and a lot another day.
I know Xeph knew people only since he was Korean and could talk to them. I talk to the players from TSL. Does that make me in the know? not at all. I have connections with a lot of really good players, but that does not mean anything.
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Yea you can make accounts too, I just made one.
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On May 26 2011 17:18 Herper wrote:
Yea you can make accounts too, I just made one.
I tried all the options and it says you need a kssn mind explaining how you did it xD
btw ppl having trouble buffering
load the stream up you want, and hit the pause button, you will notice the time will continue to go up, but after like a min of buffering you should be able to watch it buffering free :D
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On May 26 2011 17:18 Herper wrote:
Yea you can make accounts too, I just made one.
If you are willing to make a little guide to it. I'll add it to the OP
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ok hold on, ill make it now
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On May 26 2011 17:32 Herper wrote:
ok hold on, ill make it now
already done it uploading now and checking obsfucation.
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On May 26 2011 17:37 Kiante wrote:already done it uploading now and checking obsfucation.
Alright mate
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Anyone have a clue on how to reduce quality of stream? being in Aus my internet connection is quite shitty
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the guide(images are massive, i'm bad at paint, sorry)
+ Show Spoiler [lol image size] +go to daum.net and click on the thing circled in red then click on the bottom option (circled) Tick both these boxes and click the blue button fill in details as shown(if it doesn't get a tick, try a new username) then click the circled button You should get this email, copy the number in the first line of the grey box put the number in this box and click the circled button Fill out captcha and click circled box all done, u can use this login in the daum player when it requires
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Thanks for the guides. Added both to op.
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On May 26 2011 17:48 masterbreti wrote:
Thanks for the guides. Added both to op.
make sure u get the latest edit of mine, i had a couple of images mixed around lol
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will re check to make sure
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Very awesome thank you, although I find it difficult to find my way around the program lets hope I don't have many problems with it hehe
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Made another little thing so you can navigate the player better.
http://imageshack.us/f/405/daumguide2.jpg/
im messing around with the interface ill add more stuff as i figure shit out.
the Mecca TV stream is very entertaining, I believe this guy is casting a KOTH, masters level at least.
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Are there really only four streams available atm?
Yea, the Mecca TV stream is entertaining, except it is buffering like hell for me ><. As for the player level, HwangSin (the protoss right now) is #44 in GM.
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On May 26 2011 18:06 EtherealDeath wrote:
Are there really only four streams available atm?
Yea, the Mecca TV stream is entertaining, except it is buffering like hell for me ><. As for the player level, HwangSin (the protoss right now) is #44 in GM.
just pause the stream for like 30-40 seconds, and check your email, by the time your done checking it you shouldnt have to buffer anymore, and ya you have to keep refreshing the stream list.
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is there a way to reduce the quality? my connection isn't the greatest and i'm getting some lag
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On May 26 2011 18:06 EtherealDeath wrote:
Are there really only four streams available atm?
Yea, the Mecca TV stream is entertaining, except it is buffering like hell for me ><. As for the player level, HwangSin (the protoss right now) is #44 in GM.
Its 6pm Korean time. I've seen like 7 or 8 max around 10pm Korean time.
though for BW its always double to triple that number
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Ok further investigating if you just type in 스타 it will bring up many streams, but alot of them are password protected or require you to sign it, Smiley face icon in the thumbnail will require you to sign in, there are some BW/ sc2 streams that don't require a login.
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On May 26 2011 18:21 Boblhead wrote:
Ok further investigating if you just type in 스타 it will bring up many streams, but alot of them are password protected or require you to sign it, Smiley face icon in the thumbnail will require you to sign in, there are some BW/ sc2 streams that don't require a login.
I metion this in the op. for those wanting sc2, they just add the 2 to it.
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you can watch the MSL with this player too :D Although it may just be easier to watch the restreams 
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If it helps, find a quick hangul to english alphabet then translate each of the names, some won't make sense as they're smurfs, some definitely will. MKP traslated was baskin robins 31. Alot of the clan names are also korean-english compatible so you can just convert the korean to english, and also learn a new alphabet too
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Wow feels like many people (including me) have been a little tricked by Xeph telling he is the only one that can stream? o.O
Anyway this is great, much apprecieted man.
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So is there no way to decrease quality? I am thinking of how jtv has settings on most streams to decrease from 720 to 240.
In any case, thanks a lot for the info, really cool to see korean progamers playing!
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Wow, thanks Kiante and masterbreti! Nice to watch some of the average koreans laddermatches(as I am seing a 2rax-allin now lol).
Actually it is even worse:
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Sorry if the way i'm saying it's rude, but don't talk shit about xeph.
The Pros he streamed always knew they were streaming for TL and often chatted with us on JTV, saying xeph was just restreaming this is silly, very silly.
But i give you credit, this tutorial is well writed and i'll try it later.
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I guess MacOS is really not popular out there in Korea T_T I'll try this when i get my VM back ! Thanks for sharing
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Don't use an uppercase for first letter of your usename or it'll reject it
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This is good, i've been using Daum player for a great while and got through the registration myself. Good streams but tends to lag in some streamers because of the far distance. otherwise good entertainment and all kind of streamers. I wish i could stream myself but you need a KSSN ---.--- the buffering is not too good either even on my good internet
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On May 26 2011 15:19 HappyZerg wrote:
it works but its free and legal?
why do you say that as if it's a bad thing?
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Thank you very much, More options on who to watch
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The buffering time is so damn painful lol! All I can see is the ad for like 5min, some streams seems to buffer less than others or just me.
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hmm so I'm at the default place daum player when you open it, what do I do to get to the streams oO
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On May 27 2011 04:16 zhurai wrote:
hmm so I'm at the default place daum player when you open it, what do I do to get to the streams oO
스타2 Paste that into the Search like the OP says and the list of streams available will show up
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On May 27 2011 04:56 MorNin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 04:16 zhurai wrote:
hmm so I'm at the default place daum player when you open it, what do I do to get to the streams oO 스타2 Paste that into the Search like the OP says and the list of streams available will show up
http://i51.tinypic.com/v310rb.jpg
so I'm here, what do I do now, or am I in the wrong place/where do I put it...
oh... you mean the search on the daum website? X_o;
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The Music on the Mecca Tv stream is quite silly.
Very entertaining though, I haven't listened to many korean commentators, but this guy has lots of things that make it entertaining to even English viewers.
A bit like 1a2a3a[fOu]
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anyway tro watch without the daum palyer? :S
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On May 26 2011 14:54 masterbreti wrote:
What Xeph has been saying for the most part is false (nor is it a favour to tl, doubt some even know about it). Most progamers won't stream unless they want to, regardless of wether somebody asks them to or not. and if they wanted to stream on tl, it would be easy for them to do so. All we were doing is just taking numbers of their streams.
You are absolutly not informed enough. I myself discussed with oGsTheStC and it was xeph who asked him to stream on Daum so he could easily share this stream to the TL community since Daum DOES NOT WORK FOR EUROPEANS BECAUSE OF THE DELAY !
Xeph did it with other pro gamers like DongRaeGu who ONLY streamed because they knew TeamLiquid was watching them.
Part from DongRaeGu's interview:
Q. How much do you know about Teamliquid.net and the foreigner scene?
I know that Xeph mirror'ed my stream from Daum Pot and it was posted on TL.net. I tried to find posts in Teamliquid about my stream but I couldn't find any.
More, it was not realy possible for Koreans to make a stream on teamliquid since they were going to stream only some hours/month. That's why Xeph made this stream and when the pro gamer stopped streaming he tryed to find another one. The only pro which was not especially streaming for Teamliquid was Rainbow...
Now I hope that you will edit your OP post and warn enthusiast european users that they won't be able to watch Daum in most country because of the huge delay and lags issues or will watch it in very bad condition.
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On May 27 2011 06:49 Cosmos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 14:54 masterbreti wrote:
What Xeph has been saying for the most part is false (nor is it a favour to tl, doubt some even know about it). Most progamers won't stream unless they want to, regardless of wether somebody asks them to or not. and if they wanted to stream on tl, it would be easy for them to do so. All we were doing is just taking numbers of their streams.
You are absolutly not informed enough. I myself discussed with oGsTheStC and it was xeph who asked him to stream on Daum so he could easily share this stream to the TL community since Daum DOES NOT WORK FOR EUROPEANS BECAUSE OF THE DELAY ! Xeph did it with other pro gamers like DongRaeGu who ONLY streamed because they knew TeamLiquid was watching them. Part from DongRaeGu's interview: Q. How much do you know about Teamliquid.net and the foreigner scene? I know that Xeph mirror'ed my stream from Daum Pot and it was posted on TL.net. I tried to find posts in Teamliquid about my stream but I couldn't find any. More, it was not realy possible for Koreans to make a stream on teamliquid since they were going to stream only some hours/month. That's why Xeph made this stream and when the pro gamer stopped streaming he tryed to find another one. The only pro which was not especially streaming for Teamliquid was Rainbow... Now I hope that you will edit your OP post and warn enthusiast european users that they won't be able to watch Daum in most country because of the huge delay and lags issues or will watch it in very bad condition.
I'm not saying at all that xeph did not ask to restream, I would only assume it would be the polite thing to do. I do not believe he requested players to stream, He may have suggested, but I doubt they stream only because he asked.
Heck if I knew Korean, I could go and ask the Koreans to stream myself, and it would end up the same result. Anyone can do that.
But in response to what my op states. He says that Daum in unwatchable outside Korea. this is completely wrong. He says they stream only for tl, this is another wrong.
But now here is the good thing. We don't need to Xeph to stream. We can watch it ourselves now. unless you're in europe i guess.
My only problem with xeph was the fact he was making money off streaming. If a player wants to stream only for a month, they can do it for free and earn some cash while they are at it.
I might decicde to restream myself since Xeph is not around. Though the money would all go directly to the progamers who would be streamed, since I don't need the money.
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On May 27 2011 07:46 masterbreti wrote:
My only problem with xeph was the fact he was making money off streaming. If a player wants to stream only for a month, they can do it for free and earn some cash while they are at it.
Xeph was not making any money, he was not using the commercials so again, you are not well-informed enough.
If you can restream some Daum streams from famous progamer I am sure a lot of people in TL community who can't use Daum would appreciate a lot and I would be first.
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Nice nice nice! Huge thanks for posting this ^_^
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it's very very laggy for me any others? i'm in toronto could it just be a ping issue ?
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On May 26 2011 15:31 Vipsanius wrote:
I got it working, but my internet seriously needs some chronoboost to stop the buffering.
No dude, buffering is when your internet gets supply blocked.
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thanks thanks ))
Really good
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Hey, I found some guy's stream named Kangwook. Is that LGKangWook?
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Dominican Republic913 Posts
how do u see bw with this program?
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On May 27 2011 10:51 MechKing wrote:
Hey, I found some guy's stream named Kangwook. Is that LGKangWook?
Yes it is. I was chatting with him eariler today, he just switched from using justin tv to Daum.
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Dominican Republic913 Posts
help!!! i closed the program and now i dont have the search bar!!!
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Dominican Republic913 Posts
On May 27 2011 11:52 Kiante wrote:
f8
i hit f8 and nothing happes :S
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Dominican Republic913 Posts
OK, i reinstall the program...
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Anyone from eastern europe can share opinion? Laggy or not?
Edit:Nvm,I tried it myself,works fine,but you have to let it buffer,if you stream live its too slow just like youku.
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To anybody having the problem were all 3 tabs do not come up and no streams are showing. I was having the same problem until I looked on my desktop. There was one icon which just said dom player, and another one which said Daum but had live written across it. CLICK ON THIS ONE, the other one works more like gom player.
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Thanks for this but why the need to knock someone else?
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Thanks for the guide, but I can't stop thinking about Xeph's little scheme. He sounded really pleasant on the stream, I'm sure he's a nice guy, but alot of what he said was utter bull crap. making it sound like he contacted the players and arranged the streams.
I have respect for you masterbreti my good sir, I know I would have spilled the beans if I knew what was really going on. :D
EDIT: It appears that Xeph was innocently mirroring korean pro steams with their consent as is said is this DongRaeGu interview . perhaps an edit is in order?
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Only buffering for me here in Sweden. =(
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On May 27 2011 07:46 masterbreti wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 06:49 Cosmos wrote:On May 26 2011 14:54 masterbreti wrote:
What Xeph has been saying for the most part is false (nor is it a favour to tl, doubt some even know about it). Most progamers won't stream unless they want to, regardless of wether somebody asks them to or not. and if they wanted to stream on tl, it would be easy for them to do so. All we were doing is just taking numbers of their streams.
You are absolutly not informed enough. I myself discussed with oGsTheStC and it was xeph who asked him to stream on Daum so he could easily share this stream to the TL community since Daum DOES NOT WORK FOR EUROPEANS BECAUSE OF THE DELAY ! Xeph did it with other pro gamers like DongRaeGu who ONLY streamed because they knew TeamLiquid was watching them. Part from DongRaeGu's interview: Q. How much do you know about Teamliquid.net and the foreigner scene? I know that Xeph mirror'ed my stream from Daum Pot and it was posted on TL.net. I tried to find posts in Teamliquid about my stream but I couldn't find any. More, it was not realy possible for Koreans to make a stream on teamliquid since they were going to stream only some hours/month. That's why Xeph made this stream and when the pro gamer stopped streaming he tryed to find another one. The only pro which was not especially streaming for Teamliquid was Rainbow... Now I hope that you will edit your OP post and warn enthusiast european users that they won't be able to watch Daum in most country because of the huge delay and lags issues or will watch it in very bad condition. I'm not saying at all that xeph did not ask to restream, I would only assume it would be the polite thing to do. I do not believe he requested players to stream, He may have suggested, but I doubt they stream only because he asked. Heck if I knew Korean, I could go and ask the Koreans to stream myself, and it would end up the same result. Anyone can do that. But in response to what my op states. He says that Daum in unwatchable outside Korea. this is completely wrong. He says they stream only for tl, this is another wrong. But now here is the good thing. We don't need to Xeph to stream. We can watch it ourselves now. unless you're in europe i guess. My only problem with xeph was the fact he was making money off streaming. If a player wants to stream only for a month, they can do it for free and earn some cash while they are at it. I might decicde to restream myself since Xeph is not around. Though the money would all go directly to the progamers who would be streamed, since I don't need the money.
Xeph said you can't watch it outside of Korea because they limit the bandwidth and it will lag like crazy. If you guys have used Daum player before you would know how laggy it is.
We do need Xeph because he asks the players to stream and they do it as a favor for us. They were streaming for Xeph and teamliquid. Xeph was not just mirroring them and he wasn't using commercials.
The Koreans would come into the chat room and talk with us and ask about teamliquid. Clide was really nice and kept telling Xeph how cool it was that people were watching his stream.
So stop talking out of your ass and making shit up.
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On May 28 2011 06:09 CaptainTwig wrote:Thanks for the guide, but I can't stop thinking about Xeph's little scheme. He sounded really pleasant on the stream, I'm sure he's a nice guy, but alot of what he said was utter bull crap. making it sound like he contacted the players and arranged the streams. I have respect for you masterbreti my good sir, I know I would have spilled the beans if I knew what was really going on. :D EDIT: It appears that Xeph was innocently mirroring korean pro steams with their consent as is said is this DongRaeGu interview . perhaps an edit is in order?
Like I metion in a later post (sorry, op wasn't edited) that he probalay did ask for permission to restream. I'm was just saying that it was not all just him streaming the player, they would have been streaming anyways.
EDIT: op was edited.
My only thing is I hope that progamers start to stream on justin.tv or similar. Since that would be far better than Daum or any other stream, as they can use commercials to support themselves. Xeph restreaming was not doing that.
now i'm not sure, but I think daum does pay larger streamers. hence why we see people like mecca and such streaming a crapton. so giving them numbers is what really matters
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On May 28 2011 13:01 masterbreti wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 06:09 CaptainTwig wrote:Thanks for the guide, but I can't stop thinking about Xeph's little scheme. He sounded really pleasant on the stream, I'm sure he's a nice guy, but alot of what he said was utter bull crap. making it sound like he contacted the players and arranged the streams. I have respect for you masterbreti my good sir, I know I would have spilled the beans if I knew what was really going on. :D EDIT: It appears that Xeph was innocently mirroring korean pro steams with their consent as is said is this DongRaeGu interview . perhaps an edit is in order? Like I metion in a later post (sorry, op wasn't edited) that he probalay did ask for permission to restream. I'm was just saying that it was not all just him streaming the player, they would have been streaming anyways. EDIT: op was edited. My only thing is I hope that progamers start to stream on justin.tv or similar. Since that would be far better than Daum or any other stream, as they can use commercials to support themselves. Xeph restreaming was not doing that. now i'm not sure, but I think daum does pay larger streamers. hence why we see people like mecca and such streaming a crapton. so giving them numbers is what really matters
No, they wouldn't be streaming anyways. Xeph asked them to do it for TL. They only streamed for Xeph and TL. While they streamed them came into the chat room and talked to us and answered questions.
Sure you can find some pros streaming, but the top tier players that streamed for us only did it because Xeph asked.
Xeph also mentioned reason why they don't stream such as other Koreans will watch their streams and study them for GSL.
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is MKP/MMA/Bomber/MVP on here?
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On May 28 2011 14:12 sleigh bells wrote:
is MKP/MMA/Bomber/MVP on here?
I have not seen them on their mains anyways. If they have streamed. I have not noticed it. I did see a match against MVP though the other day.
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On May 28 2011 12:21 Beardedclam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 07:46 masterbreti wrote:On May 27 2011 06:49 Cosmos wrote:On May 26 2011 14:54 masterbreti wrote:
What Xeph has been saying for the most part is false (nor is it a favour to tl, doubt some even know about it). Most progamers won't stream unless they want to, regardless of wether somebody asks them to or not. and if they wanted to stream on tl, it would be easy for them to do so. All we were doing is just taking numbers of their streams.
You are absolutly not informed enough. I myself discussed with oGsTheStC and it was xeph who asked him to stream on Daum so he could easily share this stream to the TL community since Daum DOES NOT WORK FOR EUROPEANS BECAUSE OF THE DELAY ! Xeph did it with other pro gamers like DongRaeGu who ONLY streamed because they knew TeamLiquid was watching them. Part from DongRaeGu's interview: Q. How much do you know about Teamliquid.net and the foreigner scene? I know that Xeph mirror'ed my stream from Daum Pot and it was posted on TL.net. I tried to find posts in Teamliquid about my stream but I couldn't find any. More, it was not realy possible for Koreans to make a stream on teamliquid since they were going to stream only some hours/month. That's why Xeph made this stream and when the pro gamer stopped streaming he tryed to find another one. The only pro which was not especially streaming for Teamliquid was Rainbow... Now I hope that you will edit your OP post and warn enthusiast european users that they won't be able to watch Daum in most country because of the huge delay and lags issues or will watch it in very bad condition. I'm not saying at all that xeph did not ask to restream, I would only assume it would be the polite thing to do. I do not believe he requested players to stream, He may have suggested, but I doubt they stream only because he asked. Heck if I knew Korean, I could go and ask the Koreans to stream myself, and it would end up the same result. Anyone can do that. But in response to what my op states. He says that Daum in unwatchable outside Korea. this is completely wrong. He says they stream only for tl, this is another wrong. But now here is the good thing. We don't need to Xeph to stream. We can watch it ourselves now. unless you're in europe i guess. My only problem with xeph was the fact he was making money off streaming. If a player wants to stream only for a month, they can do it for free and earn some cash while they are at it. I might decicde to restream myself since Xeph is not around. Though the money would all go directly to the progamers who would be streamed, since I don't need the money. Xeph said you can't watch it outside of Korea because they limit the bandwidth and it will lag like crazy. If you guys have used Daum player before you would know how laggy it is. We do need Xeph because he asks the players to stream and they do it as a favor for us. They were streaming for Xeph and teamliquid. Xeph was not just mirroring them and he wasn't using commercials. The Koreans would come into the chat room and talk with us and ask about teamliquid. Clide was really nice and kept telling Xeph how cool it was that people were watching his stream. So stop talking out of your ass and making shit up.
Can't aggree more.
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How do I get the search/stream list up? Everytime i exit daum and reopen, the thing disappears. Then I have to reinstall ):
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Make sure you're opening the live player, not the default media player.
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On May 27 2011 05:32 zhurai wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 04:56 MorNin wrote:On May 27 2011 04:16 zhurai wrote:
hmm so I'm at the default place daum player when you open it, what do I do to get to the streams oO 스타2 Paste that into the Search like the OP says and the list of streams available will show up http://i51.tinypic.com/v310rb.jpgso I'm here, what do I do now, or am I in the wrong place/where do I put it... oh... you mean the search on the daum website? X_o;
Make sure you select the right shortcut: http://imgur.com/j18kP
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What kind of usernames are you guys using? I'm getting denied trying things like Bergys, Bergys125, Bergys_1294 and so on. Is it something im missing?^^
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On May 28 2011 18:34 Bergys wrote:
What kind of usernames are you guys using? I'm getting denied trying things like Bergys, Bergys125, Bergys_1294 and so on. Is it something im missing?^^
First letter can't be a capital, said another poster on one of the previous pages.
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Is there any way to find out the passwords to the locked ones? Seems like Mecca TV is locked right now.
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It's so sad that I dont know any Korean at all, otherwise at least I can tell who is streaming
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Hey guys, when I try to click on a stream on the right side bar, it pops up this account creation thing, how do I prevent that and actually watch streams
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On May 29 2011 13:50 blabla9111 wrote:
Hey guys, when I try to click on a stream on the right side bar, it pops up this account creation thing, how do I prevent that and actually watch streams
some streams require you to create an account. just go ahead and create one using the guides at the bottom of the op
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Is there a way to lower the quality since I'm getting buffering all the time with:
![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/1317014201.png)
Just realized I can rewind and let it have some time to buffer while watching previous stuff >,>
and then realized it can only keep a short time rewinded before it jumps forward again :\ bleh
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OP should add in bold at the top of the topic. "YOU CANNOT LOWER THE QUALITY OF THE STERAMS." its just a reiterated question.
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On May 29 2011 15:39 Boblhead wrote:
OP should add in bold at the top of the topic. "YOU CANNOT LOWER THE QUALITY OF THE STERAMS." its just a reiterated question.
will do.
On May 29 2011 15:35 DrBoo wrote:Is there a way to lower the quality since I'm getting buffering all the time with: Just realized I can rewind and let it have some time to buffer while watching previous stuff >,> and then realized it can only keep a short time rewinded before it jumps forward again :\ bleh
huh. I have a 3mb connection and it doesn't do that. odd indeed
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How do i filter for only sc2 streams?
And any recommended streams?
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On May 29 2011 16:27 LaiShin wrote:
How do i filter for only sc2 streams?
And any recommended streams?
For first question. Please read through the guide again. I metion it in the guide.
there are a lot of streams so I cannot suggest one in particular.
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The op seems pretty misleading and negative toward Xeph who did all of us a favor..
Should just remove all the things about Xeph instead of being so ambiguous.
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On May 27 2011 06:49 Cosmos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 14:54 masterbreti wrote:
What Xeph has been saying for the most part is false (nor is it a favour to tl, doubt some even know about it). Most progamers won't stream unless they want to, regardless of wether somebody asks them to or not. and if they wanted to stream on tl, it would be easy for them to do so. All we were doing is just taking numbers of their streams.
You are absolutly not informed enough. I myself discussed with oGsTheStC and it was xeph who asked him to stream on Daum so he could easily share this stream to the TL community since Daum DOES NOT WORK FOR EUROPEANS BECAUSE OF THE DELAY ! Xeph did it with other pro gamers like DongRaeGu who ONLY streamed because they knew TeamLiquid was watching them. Part from DongRaeGu's interview: Q. How much do you know about Teamliquid.net and the foreigner scene? I know that Xeph mirror'ed my stream from Daum Pot and it was posted on TL.net. I tried to find posts in Teamliquid about my stream but I couldn't find any. More, it was not realy possible for Koreans to make a stream on teamliquid since they were going to stream only some hours/month. That's why Xeph made this stream and when the pro gamer stopped streaming he tryed to find another one. The only pro which was not especially streaming for Teamliquid was Rainbow... Now I hope that you will edit your OP post and warn enthusiast european users that they won't be able to watch Daum in most country because of the huge delay and lags issues or will watch it in very bad condition.
It's okay, its quite obvious this thread is kind of a slap in the face to xeph and also that the op is an attention whore. Xeph was very dedicated and did sick work for us. I remember him streaming guineapig when he changed race and also MC if I recall correctly.
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Btw, how do I restream stuff from potplayer (using xsplit or ustream producer, for example)? It doesnt capture live stream or any video whatsoever, black screen instead of game picture (the mouse cursor is fine however) and all player GUI is shown too. Have anybody solved this issue?\
edit: ok fixed this by turning overlays off in video renderer
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Terrible Terrible lag
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ok i gotta admit thats pretty cool
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