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On May 27 2011 05:22 hasuterrans wrote:
Inference from the hotkey charts is really silly. It's like people have never seen a hotkey graph before. My advice, go to the BW replays section of this website (very bottom, lower left), download 10 terran replays from 10 different terran players and load them up in BW Charts and you'll see something exactly like what was posted 10 times. There is nothing remotely unique in those graphs.
As a former BW terran player, and terran player in SC2, I'm tempted to screenshot some of my own hotkey graphs and troll you guys.
As a former BW player you really should know that you're full of shit.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=iccup who is who&t=t&f=-1&u=&gb=date
Check those threads out, and especially posts from or referencing to roMAD.
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@LaLuSh
Thank you.
If you look at the hotkeys, there is a huge distinction. One of the players uses 0 from time to time, while the others don't use it at all or only a couple times. Some players (MVP) stick with 1-2-3-4, while players like MMA use 5-6-7-8-9 a lot. Bomber doesn't use 0 at all.
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I really want to see games between this guy and some top NA ladder folk such as Deezer, Maker and Combat-Ex. Also, this win percentage is actually sick. Over 75 games played and he barely loses, I knew MVP was good but seriously?
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On May 28 2011 08:19 Micket wrote:
I really want to see games between this guy and some top NA ladder folk such as Deezer, Maker and Combat-Ex. Idra, Tyler, Select and Kiwikaki Also, this win percentage is actually sick. Over 75 games played and he barely loses, I knew MVP was good but seriously?
I agree, I would think the lag would be a real killer..
+ Show Spoiler + your "top players" are much different to what many other people consider "top players"
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On May 28 2011 08:19 Micket wrote:
I really want to see games between this guy and some top NA ladder folk such as Deezer, Maker and Combat-Ex. Also, this win percentage is actually sick. Over 75 games played and he barely loses, I knew MVP was good but seriously?
Korea is alot harder than NA. I'm not surprised, even with the lag. That's just awesome the fact that he's playing on NA. I wish more koreans played on NA.
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On May 28 2011 04:57 dunc wrote:
? Mvp has around 260 average apm, spiking up to 350+ in battles
No he's not that high, but still higher that Anonymous (I watched some replays). If he is playing for fun, he may not spam a lot however.
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On May 26 2011 17:29 PrideTV wrote:
i just played him today, i gave him his 4th lost..
feels good beating slayers mma gg
=]
-Pride
5 minute game, lol, grats on the recent cheese success.
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Wonder if he could get the same record playing on EU... 
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On May 28 2011 20:40 Bagi wrote:Wonder if he could get the same record playing on EU...
Probably.
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On May 28 2011 20:40 Bagi wrote:Wonder if he could get the same record playing on EU...
Happy: Won 525, lost 109 (82.81% wins) (eu)
that's not to far off and the ratio has obviously gone down after 600 games. if it's actually MVP then he would have a good chance at doing even better.
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On May 28 2011 05:08 LaLuSh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 05:22 hasuterrans wrote:
Inference from the hotkey charts is really silly. It's like people have never seen a hotkey graph before. My advice, go to the BW replays section of this website (very bottom, lower left), download 10 terran replays from 10 different terran players and load them up in BW Charts and you'll see something exactly like what was posted 10 times. There is nothing remotely unique in those graphs.
As a former BW terran player, and terran player in SC2, I'm tempted to screenshot some of my own hotkey graphs and troll you guys. As a former BW player you really should know that you're full of shit. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=iccup who is who&t=t&f=-1&u=&gb=dateCheck those threads out, and especially posts from or referencing to roMAD.
You're right I wasn't very clear when I posted so I'm full of shit. By "the hotkey charts" I was attempting to express my disagreement with inference from a single replay against another single replay. Especially inference of the type where you just put two graphs next to each other and just look at them, notice they're similar, then make a conclusion. Since this was originally a reddit post with zero analysis and two graphs pasted next to each other when I saw it reposted here at TL I was a bit hasty with my reply which was unfair to the OP. This is definitely a good contribution thread and I deserve any hate elicited by my reply.
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Btw, I wasn't serious about the deezer and combat ex stuff lol. It would be amazing if MVP played someone who was streaming.
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On May 29 2011 19:27 Micket wrote:
Btw, I wasn't serious about the deezer and combat ex stuff lol. It would be amazing if MVP played someone who was streaming.
I was streaming when he played me.
http://www.justin.tv/Janook
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Looks like Mvp is owning shit up again, people. He's got some serious win streak going currently.
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On May 28 2011 04:57 dunc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 03:30 -Zoda- wrote:
And looking at the APM on the replay, we can see it's not extremely high, that suits Mvp well. ? Mvp has around 260 average apm, spiking up to 350+ in battles So the hotkey setup is "kinda similar" and not exactly? Why would he be using different hotkeys? I honestly doubt it's him.
they're very similar actually... and there's not many people in the world who can get this type of record
also judging by the times they play, they're most definitely korean, and out of all the potential koreans his hotkeys matches up best, so if we were to take our best educated guess it would be MVP
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tQyrUseCc played him 3 times in a row while streaming. The two chatted in Korean for a bit and seCc asked if he was MKP. Anonymous replied no, and seCc asked who he was. Anonymous said that he was MVP and the two continued chatting afterwards. With his own words and the hotkey graphs, you HAVE to assume it's MVP.
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yep it is had a chat with him, damn hes gosu
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Omfg, 101 wins 5 losses LOOOOL
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hope he's entering the NASL Open =P
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Mvp making the ladder look like a farce
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EPT
