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Kar98
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia924 Posts
May 20 2011 07:30 GMT
#421
I thought Doa would get better reviews .

My votes:
Excellent
Excellent
Average
Good
Good
Rabbitmaster
Profile Joined August 2010
1357 Posts
May 20 2011 07:30 GMT
#422
Artosis: Excellent. Incredible game knowledge, great "energy". Even when the games suck im still very entertained when this guy is casting.

Tasteless: Good. Very close to excellent tbh, but i had to distinguish him from artosis somehow. Solid casting, very funny but could use some more game knowledge. Also "Tastosis" has like the best chemistry of any caster-team ive ever seen.

Kelly: Bad. What she said was not actually bad, but i can not help it if i find her dialect incredibly annoying. Sorry Kelly! :<

DOA: Average. Haven't seen too much from this guy, but when ive tuned in to GSL code A hes been OK i suppose.

Moletrap: Average. Pretty much the same as above (DOA).
God is dead.
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
May 20 2011 07:41 GMT
#423
I haven't been watching GSL lately, so I don't know how Moletrap and Doa are. Tastosis are incredible imo. They make a great team and are great at what they do.

I could understand Kelly's accent, but her voice was not too pleasing to the ears, to understate it. Sometimes she casted with some knowledge of the game, and other times not so much. Not particularly great imo.
Bunnypanda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States103 Posts
May 20 2011 23:04 GMT
#424
It's pretty funny how people that defend Kelly more often than not take the road of:

She is a girl so you hate her
She is foreign so you hate her
She *insert stupid here* so you hate her

This is the main reasons people have issues with Kelly. Please note I say issues because nobody really hates her, that is just a convenient(but terrible) fallback for you to argue with.

She has a heavy accent, it is very noticeable
She gets excited and her voice goes up in a high shrieking pitch
She has very general and average game knowledge
She very often speak in absolutes, she is predicting things wrong based on the information she has yet she will carry on this idea until the cows come home

Now don't get me wrong, i am not saying this just so i can bash Kelly, I'm merely pointing out the facts here. I think she could be a great addition to casters if she works on her English and game knowledge. And as far as i know from watching her stream, she is trying to improve and she is even taking English speaking lessons, clearly she is trying and that is great.
If there is anything this community needs it's more females taking charge and showing that this is not a male only esport. It is just a bit unfortunate that the first girl to get a big break happened to also have some major flaws that the majority(please see the polls) say cannot be discounted simply because she is female and should "catch a break" for it. All in all, i hope that more girls do casting / pro gaming, it will do wonders for the community as a whole.

Moletrap looks like a cuddly little mole, he is adorable how can anyone not love him.

Artosis is probably the most passionate guy i have ever heard cast a game of starcraft, bar none.

Tasteless is funny, has great play by play and his analytical bits are picking up quite well. He is my favorite caster right now.

Doa has a lot to learn i think, his analysis is too often wrong, he too often say the wrong things. But he can only improve, and from watching him do Code A the first time with Kelly, he has noticeably improved.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10382 Posts
May 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#425
Seems about right.

However...

Tasteless is horrible and takes the quality away due to premature GG. Same with Artosis, but he does it to a much smaller, restricted extent.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
ilmman
Profile Joined September 2010
364 Posts
May 20 2011 23:12 GMT
#426
If I was a producer and going to televise the western version of GSL on live tv.. I would not muck around with moletrap, doa. kelly or tasteless. Just put JASON lee and Artosis..
Gracksaurusrex
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom171 Posts
May 22 2011 14:34 GMT
#427
I wish that Artosis would not go crazy sometimes
But I guess that he is just showing his love for the game, so I am not going to fault him for that
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
May 22 2011 14:36 GMT
#428
Can't wait to see Wolf clean this up in a couple weeks.

On May 20 2011 16:30 Kar98 wrote:
I thought Doa would get better reviews

Yeah, very unhappy with that as well.

Oh well, not everyone can have good taste.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
May 22 2011 14:38 GMT
#429
On May 21 2011 08:04 Bunnypanda wrote:
It's pretty funny how people that defend Kelly more often than not take the road of:

She is a girl so you hate her
She is foreign so you hate her
She *insert stupid here* so you hate her

This is the main reasons people have issues with Kelly. Please note I say issues because nobody really hates her, that is just a convenient(but terrible) fallback for you to argue with.

She has a heavy accent, it is very noticeable
She gets excited and her voice goes up in a high shrieking pitch
She has very general and average game knowledge
She very often speak in absolutes, she is predicting things wrong based on the information she has yet she will carry on this idea until the cows come home

Glad to hear someone sticking to the facts and not getting swayed by some laughably emotional sense of subjectivity.


On May 21 2011 08:04 Bunnypanda wrote:
Moletrap looks like a cuddly little mole, he is adorable how can anyone not love him.

... nevermind.



(All joking aside, 3 of the 4 complaints you have about Kelly fit to Moletrap as well. >_>)
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3772 Posts
May 24 2011 06:44 GMT
#430
I like Artosis (Excellent) and I'm OK with Tasteless (Good) - would like to hear Artosis + Day9 though. These two will get double excellent

DoA = boring = bad.

Moletrap = Excellent. Not that insightful (he sometimes overlooks some things visible on the screen) but extremely entertaining. Plus he is the reason I started reading TeamLiquid this 2 years ago, maybe even more.
Bunnypanda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States103 Posts
May 26 2011 08:23 GMT
#431
On May 22 2011 23:38 Bobster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 08:04 Bunnypanda wrote:
It's pretty funny how people that defend Kelly more often than not take the road of:

She is a girl so you hate her
She is foreign so you hate her
She *insert stupid here* so you hate her

This is the main reasons people have issues with Kelly. Please note I say issues because nobody really hates her, that is just a convenient(but terrible) fallback for you to argue with.

She has a heavy accent, it is very noticeable
She gets excited and her voice goes up in a high shrieking pitch
She has very general and average game knowledge
She very often speak in absolutes, she is predicting things wrong based on the information she has yet she will carry on this idea until the cows come home

Glad to hear someone sticking to the facts and not getting swayed by some laughably emotional sense of subjectivity.


Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 08:04 Bunnypanda wrote:
Moletrap looks like a cuddly little mole, he is adorable how can anyone not love him.

... nevermind.



(All joking aside, 3 of the 4 complaints you have about Kelly fit to Moletrap as well. >_>)


Haha, yeah i was just being funny with moletrap, i don't think hes a great caster at all. The high pitched shriek is what burns my brain. But he does look like a mole, there is no denying that. And i can sorta stand listening to him, because his voice is not horrible.
RickOrShay
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand132 Posts
May 26 2011 08:33 GMT
#432
<3 tastosis, not a fan of moletrap or kelly, but DOA is all good.
JadedZerg
Profile Joined May 2011
21 Posts
May 26 2011 09:27 GMT
#433
excellent for Tastosis because they just do everything and know a lot about the game.

Kelly was bad or horrible for lack of game knowledge and the voice was terrible

DoA I think is average, he doesn't know a lot about the game but enough to be just a caster not a commentator

Had to vote horrible for moletrap but maybe he should just be bad.

The reason is he often just takes over the cast and his knowledge of the game seems very limited. His voice isn't exactly easy to listen to either, leaving me muting the stream/VoD and playing the terran music and watching for myself.

He's not hopeless and can improve, but he seems to be more of a caster rather than a commentator.

I'll be looking forward to seeing if Wolf can fill the analytical commentator role that the code a duo lacks.
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
May 26 2011 12:36 GMT
#434
All the votes are almost exactly what I voted/expected.

Top to bottom:
Artosis
Tasteless
Wolf (already including him here, even though we haven't seen much of him)
Moletrap
Doa
Kelly

I'm looking forward to seeing the poll for Wolf after the next season.
LuckstYle
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany181 Posts
May 26 2011 12:41 GMT
#435
I like wolf
leecH
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 12:58:52
May 26 2011 12:58 GMT
#436
i hope moletrap will stay to cast GSTL and Code A. he has a really cool and unique voice. he really is up there with my favorite casters.

also he is like the guy who knows all the stats. i really like that its like when watching soccer its like "he had a really good season blablabla".

i like!
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
May 26 2011 13:06 GMT
#437
On May 26 2011 21:58 leecH wrote:
i hope moletrap will stay to cast GSTL and Code A. he has a really cool and unique voice. he really is up there with my favorite casters.

also he is like the guy who knows all the stats. i really like that its like when watching soccer its like "he had a really good season blablabla".

i like!

You mean: " Moletrap is the guy who reads all the stats."
I noticed that his knowledge on players is very poor actually and most of it comes from reading the stats that GSL displays before each match. Calling jookTo a bad player and making fun of him is just one example. People who actually had knowledge on jookTo predicted that he will put up a good fight vs Anypro.
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 13:15:04
May 26 2011 13:12 GMT
#438
Everyone has their flaws, some bigger than others.

Tasteless reiterates the same basic things so many times that it can get annoying.

Artosis early GSL casting was very biased (s1/s2 zerg whine), it still shows with his huge hardon for players like Nestea.

Kelly has a very thick accent and shrieks when there's action going down.

Moletrap talks over other casters, trying to one-up them.

Doa is a bit stiff, needs to loosen up a bit.

Day9 had the whole "Aha, mm, aha, yeah." deal going whenever the cocaster was talking back in the early tournaments.

I mean, people seem to focus on the bad things when all casters have them. Most of the kinks can be worked out with practise and some work i think. Really dislike people that don't give casters a chance before creating a royal shitstorm.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
May 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#439
Give Wolf a few weeks to settle in then we can add him to this poll also.
The "WolfTrap" dynamic was a bit different to what we've seen before and needs time to develop.
A great start though, but then that's what you'd expect from a guy who's done a lot of casting before.

He's a bit like Tasteless in his style I thought, anyone else think that?
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
WolfStar
Profile Joined February 2008
United Kingdom155 Posts
May 26 2011 13:33 GMT
#440
My casting Archon of choice would be DayTrap, Tastosis is alright but I would take Day[9] over Artosis for analyses and Moletrap over Tasteless.

That's not to say I think Tastosis should be removed from their spot as you have to give them props for getting out there and waiting patiently for their time.
The early bird catches the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese.
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