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Lemonhead
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark31 Posts
May 19 2011 14:08 GMT
#401
I watched every pre-GSTL 3 because of Artosis
I didn't watch GSTL 3 because of no Artosis

I feel a little bad giving Kelly a horrible vote. It's not because of her demeanor or her voice, I simply can't understand her half the time, and that's a horrible thing on an English stream.
Sometimes the best defense is an insane offense.
Lemonhead
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark31 Posts
May 19 2011 14:11 GMT
#402
On May 19 2011 19:32 Astans wrote:
Kelly's game analysis is pretty good. I think people rate her wrongly because of her english/voice.


Is this not a fair judgement? If people can't understand her, she's failing as an English caster on a very basic level.
Sometimes the best defense is an insane offense.
GMonster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
686 Posts
May 19 2011 14:16 GMT
#403
On May 19 2011 23:11 Lemonhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 19:32 Astans wrote:
Kelly's game analysis is pretty good. I think people rate her wrongly because of her english/voice.


Is this not a fair judgement? If people can't understand her, she's failing as an English caster on a very basic level.


People can understand her, just very stubborn people choose not too. So they have a reason to hate her,

take a small flaw, turn it into something huge. psychology 101.
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Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
May 19 2011 14:19 GMT
#404
On May 19 2011 23:08 Lemonhead wrote:
I watched every pre-GSTL 3 because of Artosis
I didn't watch GSTL 3 because of no Artosis

I feel a little bad giving Kelly a horrible vote. It's not because of her demeanor or her voice, I simply can't understand her half the time, and that's a horrible thing on an English stream.


You should probably be watching because of the games, not the casters. Too bad too, cause you missed an amazing GSTL.
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lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
May 19 2011 14:21 GMT
#405
G
G
A
A
A

Tastosis is awesome and probably the best duo out there but I didn't give them an excellent just because there is not really a very large pool to pick from. I can't tell if I really like them or just like them because they commentate like 90% of the things worth watching.

Still great nonetheless.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
NPHarris
Profile Joined May 2011
91 Posts
May 19 2011 21:39 GMT
#406
Guys, you can stop defending her now. Polls show what the general opinion is.
The general opinion is that she's not good as a caster for whatever reason.
If you think otherwise that's fine, but I'd assume you already voted.
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
May 19 2011 22:42 GMT
#407
On May 19 2011 23:19 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 23:08 Lemonhead wrote:
I watched every pre-GSTL 3 because of Artosis
I didn't watch GSTL 3 because of no Artosis

I feel a little bad giving Kelly a horrible vote. It's not because of her demeanor or her voice, I simply can't understand her half the time, and that's a horrible thing on an English stream.


You should probably be watching because of the games, not the casters. Too bad too, cause you missed an amazing GSTL.

In a way this is true but if the game suck the caster are there to make it seem amazing to the public so if there are no good casters casting it well makes the games just look bad so in a way GSTL was ok i mean Tasteless....funny lol
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xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 23:39:03
May 19 2011 23:37 GMT
#408
After watching the GSTL finals, especially the game on Metalopolis, I find the results of the survey pretty surprising. I can understand the KellyMilkies haters (she's a girl and has a massive accent) but she is a class above Moletrap. Perhaps his excitement got the best of him but he seemed clueless as to what was going on in the game.

On May 19 2011 23:19 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 23:08 Lemonhead wrote:
I watched every pre-GSTL 3 because of Artosis
I didn't watch GSTL 3 because of no Artosis

I feel a little bad giving Kelly a horrible vote. It's not because of her demeanor or her voice, I simply can't understand her half the time, and that's a horrible thing on an English stream.


You should probably be watching because of the games, not the casters. Too bad too, cause you missed an amazing GSTL.

I watch the games because of the games and mute the sound because of the casters. Someone should actually make a survey about how often people watch tournaments without sound because of poor quality casters - I'm sure there's plenty of us.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 23:47:06
May 19 2011 23:46 GMT
#409
On May 19 2011 23:16 GoKu` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 23:11 Lemonhead wrote:
On May 19 2011 19:32 Astans wrote:
Kelly's game analysis is pretty good. I think people rate her wrongly because of her english/voice.


Is this not a fair judgement? If people can't understand her, she's failing as an English caster on a very basic level.


People can understand her, just very stubborn people choose not too. So they have a reason to hate her,


Why would anyone be stubborn and hate her anyway? -_-

You're just throwing around glaring generalizations about hate and stubborn people, it's just a loaded accusation intended to provoke even more pointless heated debates about this.

It's the only reason people get angry over this topic in the first place, not because they hate anybody.
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
May 20 2011 01:37 GMT
#410
On May 19 2011 19:01 Jonny55 wrote:
Tasteless + Artosis > Any other casting combo ever. I'm not even watching the GSTL because it's done by bad commentators.


Pfft... your loss man. Your fuckin loss...
in a state of trance
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
May 20 2011 01:56 GMT
#411
I think Doa and Moletrap need to play the game more, preferably as random so they can learn all the matchups. In the GSTL finals they weren't very good at analyzing the situation.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 02:22:04
May 20 2011 02:21 GMT
#412
On May 19 2011 23:16 GoKu` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 23:11 Lemonhead wrote:
On May 19 2011 19:32 Astans wrote:
Kelly's game analysis is pretty good. I think people rate her wrongly because of her english/voice.


Is this not a fair judgement? If people can't understand her, she's failing as an English caster on a very basic level.


People can understand her, just very stubborn people choose not too. So they have a reason to hate her,

take a small flaw, turn it into something huge. psychology 101.


Oh get over this attitude, it's as annoying to me as the other end of the spectrum with people who went ape-shit over Kelly...

There are a ton of people who have good reason not to like her casting, it's not because they're stubborn, it's not because they're dumb Americans, it's not because they're native english speakers or not native english speakers or whatever random fucking label you give them every other day of the week.

Her game knowledge was sort of questionable, even if she knew what she was talking about, she couldn't articulate it in a manner that wasn't distracting, her slurred speech, her awkward accent and her shrill voice made for an unpleasant listening experience, in addition, whenever something exciting was going on on screen, her voice became a shriek. Additionally, after the initial negative response to her casting, her attitude towards the response(at least the attitude the community saw) was rather disappointing and dramatic which resulted in people not liking her casting and subsequently some people not liking her attitude.

It has nothing to do with being stubborn, people found her voice distracting or annoying, they aren't stubborn for wanting a better casting experience, there are plenty of casters with light accents, or even somewhat noticeable accents, but they have something that either compensates or works with it, like a nice sounding voice, or amazing game knowledge and observation, or a robust vocabulary and flow of speech, Kelly had none of those...
nepitolko
Profile Joined April 2010
Slovakia32 Posts
May 20 2011 03:09 GMT
#413
Moletrap is a HERO.
I have watched every one of his videos in BW and i think everybody who was into BW likes Moletrap
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 03:26:55
May 20 2011 03:24 GMT
#414
On May 18 2011 22:19 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 22:12 Drakey wrote:
On May 18 2011 22:03 Krehlmar wrote:

There is no godamn excuse she's fucking bad, her voice and pronunciation is fucking horrendous: The two godamn keypoints on being a godamn caster.



I'm betting 8/10 that the majority of people who are thinking above are native english speakings... Pretty sure most of us non native speakings understood her perfectly... and lets be honest, if to get better a language thats not your native, want to know whats the only solution? Practice it...


I have been speaking English my entire life, and I had very little problem understanding her. My theory is that people were so used to the voices of Artosis and Tasteless that a female voice threw them off.


I have been speaking English my entire life too. I had some trouble understanding Kelly. The sound of her voice to me though is like nails on a chalkboard (kind of like that Fran Drescher lady from "The Nanny"). I don't know why exactly, but that's just how I felt listening to her. It was so distracting for me that I chose to stop watching Code A all together. I want a caster to make me more excited about what is going on than if I was just watching it as a replay. I want to hear high level insight into what is going on in the game. Tastosis gives me that. She was the polar opposite for me.

Tastosis- Excellent
Moletrap- Good
DOA- Average
Kelly- Horrible
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
aneruok
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 03:50:20
May 20 2011 03:48 GMT
#415
On May 20 2011 10:37 nokz88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 19:01 Jonny55 wrote:
Tasteless + Artosis > Any other casting combo ever. I'm not even watching the GSTL because it's done by bad commentators.


Pfft... your loss man. Your fuckin loss...



Moletrap needs to become a better commentator or just go back to solocasting on youtube. the was good at that.

Watching GSTL with no volume
Sovetsky Soyuz
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation905 Posts
May 20 2011 03:51 GMT
#416
So much hate on kelly
Moletrap needs to get his groove a bit though, seems like he hasnt settled yet.
I'd love him to be one of the regulars
Buff345
Profile Joined October 2010
United States323 Posts
May 20 2011 03:52 GMT
#417
It's hard to believe that people who's first language is english couldn't understand kelly talk.. I think they're just bullshitting or else the majority of the people who watch the GSL speak english as a second language.
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
May 20 2011 04:08 GMT
#418
u guyz is meanies
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
May 20 2011 04:17 GMT
#419
On May 20 2011 12:52 Buff345 wrote:
It's hard to believe that people who's first language is english couldn't understand kelly talk.. I think they're just bullshitting or else the majority of the people who watch the GSL speak english as a second language.


It's not that anyone couldn't straight up understand her, it's that it took a little more focus than anyone wants to allocate to simply understanding caster, particularly when shit gets intense and she goes into shriek-mode. When she starts slurring her words, it takes some genuine effort to understand what she's saying, it's nothing ridiculous and in a conversation I wouldn't give a shit, but when you're supposed to be casting a game, it's noticeably irritating.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4413 Posts
May 20 2011 06:58 GMT
#420
On May 20 2011 10:37 nokz88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 19:01 Jonny55 wrote:
Tasteless + Artosis > Any other casting combo ever. I'm not even watching the GSTL because it's done by bad commentators.


Pfft... your loss man. Your fuckin loss...


Actually it's Goms loss compare this GSTL's views to the last 2 seasons. We aren't just a small minority.
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