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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 18 2011 14:02 GMT
#201
Kind of hard to vote... My opinion goes as follows: Artosis > Moletrap > Tasteless > DoA > Kelly.
However neither is Kelly horrible, nor is any other caster of the level of Artosis.
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 14:04:34
May 18 2011 14:03 GMT
#202
Artosis is exellent, he knows the game and hes nice.
Tasteless is good and very funny.
Kelly is average, I just cant understand alat she says.
Doa is average, pretty normal guy.
Moletrap is horrible, I literally have to mute the stream if I want to watch code a, screams like a little girl hrrrrr. But I must say moletrap can be a good solo caster but with doa it just doesnt cut it.
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
May 18 2011 14:03 GMT
#203
On May 18 2011 23:02 JustPassingBy wrote:
Kind of hard to vote... My opinion goes as follows: Artosis > Moletrap > Tasteless > DoA > Kelly.
However neither is Kelly horrible, nor is any other caster of the level of Artosis.

Moletrap > tasteless? whaaaat !
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Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
May 18 2011 14:05 GMT
#204
1. Artosis - Excellent. Gold standard of casters, King Nerd. Artosis and Day[9] would still make the best casting duo ever

2. Tasteless - Good. Honestly, he's not that great by himself, but when paired with Artosis, their chemistry bumps him up to excellent. He sometimes goes off in really awkward tangents, but most of times sets up great dialogue between the casters.

3. Kelly - Horrible. Nothing against her casting content, but the accent is both distracting and grating.

4. Moletrap - Good. Great excitement, won me over with the whole 'the nuke is going to drop on his armeeeeee' bit.

5. DOA - Average. The two needs better chemistry between them and pick up each other's cues.
Jermstuddog
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2231 Posts
May 18 2011 14:06 GMT
#205
It appears that people like Artosis too much and undervalue what Tasteless brings to their epic duo.

The only reason Artosis is such a good caster is because Tasteless enables him to take the analytical side of the discussion most of the time. There needs to be an interchange between the two casters for things to line up truly well and Tasteless sets himself up as a platform for Artosis to stand on. Likewise, Artosis sets Tasteless up for some very humerous moments.

Lots of give and take between those two, but I would actually have to rate Tasteless higher than Artosis, both are excellent though.
As it turns out, marines don't actually cost any money -Jinro
fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
May 18 2011 14:06 GMT
#206
On May 18 2011 20:45 Lann555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 20:20 Roffles wrote:
Everyone but Kelly Milkies has been aight. Kelly was just a trainwreck. I just felt as if she didn't really bring much to the table in terms of casting. Restated co-caster comments, no fresh thoughts/ideas or random quibbles to keep me entertained.


Pretty much agree. She is the only caster that made me mute the stream so far. DoA/Moletrap aren't the greatest at analysing, but their random banter is quite entertaining if you don't take it too seriously.



Same here. I tried watching that season's Code A, sincerely, but it was just impossible for me.
On top of that, she later admits she actually think's she was excellent and puts all the guilt on external factors (mainly, she pulls the racism & sexism card to belittle her shortcomings). That just made me lose any respect I had gained for her after noticing her great effort.
Ah well, at least it's fairly certain she'll never get called back. I hope.
WellPlayed.org <3
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
May 18 2011 14:20 GMT
#207
On May 18 2011 23:06 Jermstuddog wrote:
It appears that people like Artosis too much and undervalue what Tasteless brings to their epic duo.

The only reason Artosis is such a good caster is because Tasteless enables him to take the analytical side of the discussion most of the time. There needs to be an interchange between the two casters for things to line up truly well and Tasteless sets himself up as a platform for Artosis to stand on. Likewise, Artosis sets Tasteless up for some very humerous moments.

Lots of give and take between those two, but I would actually have to rate Tasteless higher than Artosis, both are excellent though.


I think people are right when they say that Tasteless isn't all that great as a actual caster. He is awesome for the fun he brings but i feel that Artosis more or less brings 99% of the pure analytical sense in the duo.
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
May 18 2011 14:27 GMT
#208
On May 18 2011 23:20 karpo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 23:06 Jermstuddog wrote:
It appears that people like Artosis too much and undervalue what Tasteless brings to their epic duo.

The only reason Artosis is such a good caster is because Tasteless enables him to take the analytical side of the discussion most of the time. There needs to be an interchange between the two casters for things to line up truly well and Tasteless sets himself up as a platform for Artosis to stand on. Likewise, Artosis sets Tasteless up for some very humerous moments.

Lots of give and take between those two, but I would actually have to rate Tasteless higher than Artosis, both are excellent though.


I think people are right when they say that Tasteless isn't all that great as a actual caster. He is awesome for the fun he brings but i feel that Artosis more or less brings 99% of the pure analytical sense in the duo.


I have a dream that Tasteless will be as awesome as he was in the BW days :S Although that is quite the expectations for even a nerd god :S I love him anyways, I think he brings comic relief to the cast and knows when to let Artosis analyse and when to do Play-by-Play. TBH they are the best. Only team that comes close is a sort of mix between Day9's knowledge and charisma and Djwheat's professionalism and awesomeness.

d9/dj are great and there are a few others like diggity and what not who do well too. But lets face it, Tastosis are on the biggest stage
We talkin about PRACTICE
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
May 18 2011 14:28 GMT
#209
It would be interesting to have Day[9] in the poll as well... I'd expect him to have about the same ratings as Artosis
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
May 18 2011 14:42 GMT
#210
I was happy with everyones casting except for Kelly's. I stopped watching Code A that season and haven't really gotten myself to go back.
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
MyZioN
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden46 Posts
May 18 2011 14:45 GMT
#211
I like all of them, except the fact that DOA tries SOOO HARD to ape tasteless, acts exactly like him and it is just silly to watch him trying so hard to be someone else.

Tip to doa: Please be yourself and create your own style of casting, don't ape someone else!
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
May 18 2011 14:47 GMT
#212
tastosis good, the rest is bad. Tastosis got this nerdy humor that is funny and they provide good insight from time to time. Doa and moletrap have terrible humor, they seem to try and mimick tastosis too often, you even hear them saying stuff like: "I should be saying SO MANY BANELINGS now". It is just awkward to watch and they rarely if ever provide any great insight.
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
May 18 2011 14:55 GMT
#213
I miss the olden days of the GSL when Artosis and Tasteless casted every single game for GSL. But, it makes sense to give them a break with code A and team league and I have been mostly OK with whoever else they've had cast when Tasteosis doesn't. It was only after Tasteosis stopped casting some events I realized a large portion of why I watch the GSL is for them.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
May 18 2011 14:56 GMT
#214
On May 18 2011 22:12 Drakey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 22:03 Krehlmar wrote:

There is no godamn excuse she's fucking bad, her voice and pronunciation is fucking horrendous: The two godamn keypoints on being a godamn caster.



I'm betting 8/10 that the majority of people who are thinking above are native english speakings... Pretty sure most of us non native speakings understood her perfectly... and lets be honest, if to get better a language thats not your native, want to know whats the only solution? Practice it...

Tbh, there are more native english casters who annoy the crap out of me and make me want to go off streams then kelly... Yet those casters are seen as great casters by the native one's! Now explain that to me....


Greetings

Drakey


Dear Drakey
This is a forum, not the 17th century, everyone can read your name above the post since every post is signed with your account name; Drakey.

I'm swedish, I speak english fluently without any accent or problem and I feel anger at any swede who does not do the same because it's such an obvious flaw and easily removed. It's not like it's a speech impediment, people just need to arse themselves to pronounce the godamn words right.

I'm not saying nobody understands her, sometimes not but mostly yeah we do, it's just horrendous to hear her call stim "steeeaam" or push "pooosh". Yeah practice it, she can do that outside the major tournaments that I fucking pay to watch. GSL is not a godamn training yard for casters.

Why does one exclude the other? Does me saying kelly is a bad caster make every other caster good? Ofcourse not, stop having the roundabound arguments: There are other equally horrid or worse casters, but they're not usually on the major tournaments and there is great reason for that.
Also you didn't name a single caster that the "native" english speakers find great but annoy the hell out of you so what the hell are we suppose to explain to you?...

Your dearest penpall,

Krehlmar

My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
May 18 2011 14:57 GMT
#215
Seriously who's voting anything less than good for tastosis? And really 15 bad votes for tasteless lol...

All the casters are at least average, most are in the good or above categories.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
Bleb
Profile Joined August 2010
Croatia278 Posts
May 18 2011 15:02 GMT
#216
Kinda hard to vote for me
ie
Artosis is very good caster but together with Tasteless is excellent
I'd much rather vote on duos than just 1 person
Bluerain
Profile Joined April 2010
United States348 Posts
May 18 2011 15:07 GMT
#217
moletrap is blind. theres a game in the recent GSTL of a PvT on XNC and the protoss forcefields and kills off 4 units. he says protoss forcefields didnt do much and only killed 2 units. it's not that hard to say only killed off a FEW if ur not sure how many. other times he will say things like oh that attack did TONS OF DAMAGE but there was minimal...if u have an annoying voice at least try to have your content topnotch. and no more inane jokes plz.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
May 18 2011 15:12 GMT
#218
Artosis and Tasteless are a great combo. They are always aware of what's going on and are lots of fun on top of that.
Same goes for DoA and Moletrap. I feel like they miss some events from time to time, but for the most part are always on top of things. Certainly an entertaining casting duo.
I remember listening to some of Moletrap's broodwar commentaries on youtube, which struck me as terrible, but I think he has improved greatly and I actually enjoy him.
I don't remember with whom Kelly was casting but for some reason she didn't manage to grab me with her casting. She is simply not my taste.

Evaluating them individually is harder but for me it would be something like this:

Artosis>DoA>=Tasteless>Moletrap>>>Kelly
locilocisu
Profile Joined January 2011
25 Posts
May 18 2011 15:14 GMT
#219
When DOA and moletrap differs in opinion, you can see how they contest each other.... each one of them tries to be "right"er than the other.

You don't see this between Artosis and Tasteless, because Tasteless doesn't try to have opinions, he lets Artosis do the analytics of the game... Tasteless provides Artosis the opportunity to do so.

DOA and moletrap tries to one up each other... and I can sense how moletrap hates it. To me this is annoying. Both can't be humble enough to facilitate each other. When Doa opines, Moletrap just shoots it down, vice versa. Both of them are trying to do the same thing while Tasteless and Artosis comfortably snuggles each to their own role that's synergistic.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
May 18 2011 15:25 GMT
#220
On May 19 2011 00:14 locilocisu wrote:
When DOA and moletrap differs in opinion, you can see how they contest each other.... each one of them tries to be "right"er than the other.

You don't see this between Artosis and Tasteless, because Tasteless doesn't try to have opinions, he lets Artosis do the analytics of the game... Tasteless provides Artosis the opportunity to do so.

DOA and moletrap tries to one up each other... and I can sense how moletrap hates it. To me this is annoying. Both can't be humble enough to facilitate each other. When Doa opines, Moletrap just shoots it down, vice versa. Both of them are trying to do the same thing while Tasteless and Artosis comfortably snuggles each to their own role that's synergistic.


I perceive the exact opposite actually. I feel like they don't disagree with oneother enough. Especially, when both try to comment on a certain situation, DoA often times gives in to Moletrap's evaluation of the situation even though it is obvisouly wrong. I feel like DoA doesn't want to contradict Moletrap too often in order not to be rude (even though he would be perfectly right to do so).
I completely agree with your assessment of Tastosis though ^^
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