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Fiction_
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand33 Posts
May 18 2011 09:24 GMT
#341
Wow Group C is group of death. I hope SeleCT makes it out!
Cocacooh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1510 Posts
May 18 2011 09:31 GMT
#342
Sjow got this
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
May 18 2011 09:33 GMT
#343
Bomber is about to kill group c.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 09:37:46
May 18 2011 09:37 GMT
#344
Can't wait for Huk to sign up after getting eliminated in the first round of the Super Tournament, having to go through the open brackets.

Also, Gretorp is a sneaky sneaky weasel, managing to get into pool play again. Unbelievable. :lol :lol


Great lineup.
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
May 18 2011 09:40 GMT
#345
Before reading this thread I really felt for someone like TT1 who has been screwed thoroughly by this weird system that MLG has going. He placed highly all last season including placing second at one event and that earned him a very high seed going into this season.
Then he missed the first event this season and suddenly he is comepletely out of MLG and has to go unseeded through the open bracket.
That being said, the way to go about it isn't responding in a whiny tone in this thread though

Mirror this to the IM not getting into GSTL. Obviously they were very disappointed and felt that they had earned a spot after performing better than any other team. But the way they've handled it and responded to it is admirable. They just accepted the situation and acknowledged that they knew the rules going into it and have to respect that.

TT1 should do the same now. He knew how it worked when he agreed to go to the GSL WC. He knew at that time, he wouldn't be seeded in the next MLG. And if he didn't then that is his and his teams fault for not reading the rules. It's too late now to change it, so complaining about it in this way isn't gonna accomplish anything except diminishing any goodwill the community would have towards you based on the situation you'd been put in. You accepted MLG's rules when you wanted to play in their tournaments. You and your team can do everything in your power to interact with MLG and help them develope a system that suits everyone, but obviously the way to accomplish it isn't whining about it here. In fact that probably only works against yo in the future. If MLG doesn't want that then either accept their terms or don't play in their tournament. But even then it would only make you look better if you didn't complain about it in this manner.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 09:49:10
May 18 2011 09:45 GMT
#346
On May 18 2011 14:11 Zlasher wrote:
...Gretorp gets to stay in pool play because he was basically into top 16 by winning like one match? I'm REALLY not liking the system if it doesn't account points from before. People like Vibe, dde, mihai, etc. fought through the open bracket just to not get any help for mlg columbus?

I can't say I can agree with the system if it leads to brackets like this.


People said this format was terrible and will keep saying it's terrible because it is. I don't really understand how one can defend this format. It makes it so once you are seeded all you have to do is pitch up and you have a very high chance that you will continue to be seeded. It's a huge benefit. The format is done to almost exclude anyone outside of the top 16(Now 20). I don't see how they can keep acting as if they want to become this massive competition if they actively try and squash competition outside of their seeds.

I hope people don't stop being vocal about this. This system is ridiculous. Sure it helps players that are consistent but it helps them far too much while negatively impacting others harshly.

On May 18 2011 18:40 Vorenius wrote:
Mirror this to the IM not getting into GSTL. Obviously they were very disappointed and felt that they had earned a spot after performing better than any other team. But the way they've handled it and responded to it is admirable. They just accepted the situation and acknowledged that they knew the rules going into it and have to respect that.

TT1 should do the same now. He knew how it worked when he agreed to go to the GSL WC. He knew at that time, he wouldn't be seeded in the next MLG. And if he didn't then that is his and his teams fault for not reading the rules. It's too late now to change it, so complaining about it in this way isn't gonna accomplish anything except diminishing any goodwill the community would have towards you based on the situation you'd been put in. You accepted MLG's rules when you wanted to play in their tournaments. You and your team can do everything in your power to interact with MLG and help them develope a system that suits everyone, but obviously the way to accomplish it isn't whining about it here. In fact that probably only works against yo in the future. If MLG doesn't want that then either accept their terms or don't play in their tournament. But even then it would only make you look better if you didn't complain about it in this manner.


This is rather ludicrous. The IM debate is completely different to this. Comparing the two to try make a point is just silly. TT1 making his feelings known is a good thing. It's a progamer interaction and he is showing that he echos the thoughts of many fans of the system. Telling progamers to stop posting here because they can't post what they feel like is the whole reason we don't have progamers posting. TL has become so filthy at least let it have some light with progamers posting.
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
May 18 2011 09:50 GMT
#347
Interesting groups - compare Pool A to Pool C. LOL.
Hydro
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada153 Posts
May 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#348
wow crazy pool C.
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
May 18 2011 10:05 GMT
#349
I think the Koreans should have to go through the open bracket just like the rest of the players. Naniwa did it and won the tournamnet, whats stopping moon or whoever doing the same?

It is sort of like gaming racism in a way really. But not a serious form of racism. I feel sorry for anyone who played 18-22 (seeing as though 2 ppl are not showing so 16 17 should get in?).

www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
JaxDaniels
Profile Joined July 2010
United States29 Posts
May 18 2011 10:08 GMT
#350
I'm more excited about group D than C personally. Love watching TLO and Inc.
Come at me bro.
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 10:14:00
May 18 2011 10:09 GMT
#351
I really feel sorry for Tyler. Group C may even have ended up harder then the best of all the other groups combined.

Group C:
Select
Idra
Ret
Tyler
Bomber

Best of A,B,D:
naniwa
mma
losira
kiwikaki
Sheth

These groups look kinda equal

Also I gotta add that the format is retarded. The people who where seeded last MLG is gonna stay there forever. People like Gretorp has no business beeing seeded after his last showing.
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
May 18 2011 10:12 GMT
#352
This is rather ludicrous. The IM debate is completely different to this. Comparing the two to try make a point is just silly. TT1 making his feelings known is a good thing. It's a progamer interaction and he is showing that he echos the thoughts of many fans of the system. Telling progamers to stop posting here because they can't post what they feel like is the whole reason we don't have progamers posting. TL has become so filthy at least let it have some light with progamers posting.

It's two players/teams that can't attend a tournament they clearly deserves to be in.

One decided to accept that rules are rules. The other decided to make several post in a negative tone about both the tournament organizer as well as other player competing in the tournament.

If someone doesn't like the rules that apply to them they should strive to change them.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
May 18 2011 10:15 GMT
#353
On May 18 2011 11:43 GTR wrote:
group c is more group of death than what group d was of the current msl.

I don't agree with that.
It's quite deadly though
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
May 18 2011 10:16 GMT
#354
On May 18 2011 18:45 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 14:11 Zlasher wrote:
...Gretorp gets to stay in pool play because he was basically into top 16 by winning like one match? I'm REALLY not liking the system if it doesn't account points from before. People like Vibe, dde, mihai, etc. fought through the open bracket just to not get any help for mlg columbus?

I can't say I can agree with the system if it leads to brackets like this.


People said this format was terrible and will keep saying it's terrible because it is. I don't really understand how one can defend this format. It makes it so once you are seeded all you have to do is pitch up and you have a very high chance that you will continue to be seeded. It's a huge benefit. The format is done to almost exclude anyone outside of the top 16(Now 20). I don't see how they can keep acting as if they want to become this massive competition if they actively try and squash competition outside of their seeds.

I hope people don't stop being vocal about this. This system is ridiculous. Sure it helps players that are consistent but it helps them far too much while negatively impacting others harshly.



tell that to painuser.

jrdn
Profile Joined September 2010
United States132 Posts
May 18 2011 10:17 GMT
#355
These groups are kinda bs. It's almost like they went out of their way to insure teammates played each other. Would rather have teams split up...less chance for collusion.
“The sole purpose of an opening is to achieve a playable midgame”
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
May 18 2011 10:19 GMT
#356
On May 18 2011 19:17 jrdn wrote:
These groups are kinda bs. It's almost like they went out of their way to insure teammates played each other. Would rather have teams split up...less chance for collusion.


Yea but they didn't, http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/competitions/17#event_36_competition_format
Vlare
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
748 Posts
May 18 2011 10:22 GMT
#357
Really hope IdrA/Bomber do well in group C. Also looks like Naniwa has an easy time. Rest of the pools look like meh.
Mass zerglings doesnt fail
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 10:56:52
May 18 2011 10:31 GMT
#358
On May 18 2011 19:22 Vlare wrote:
Really hope IdrA/Bomber do well in group C. Also looks like Naniwa has an easy time. Rest of the pools look like meh.

Edit: Oops.
Get crunk
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
May 18 2011 10:31 GMT
#359
Group C & D look much harder than A & B.
keep it deep! @zulison
laguu
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland278 Posts
May 18 2011 10:34 GMT
#360
o.o Group C is ridiculous!! there's gonna be some blood as well as awesome matches!
Arguing with a fool proves there are two.
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