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kagemucha
Profile Joined August 2010
United States326 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 07:44:01
May 18 2011 07:43 GMT
#301
Might've been answered before, but why are the Koreans placed into groups so weirdly? If you follow the original 16 seeds, there is a nice snake-pattern (like NFL draft system). But then the koreans come and the order is off. It would seem to me that :

A: (17)Losira
B: (18)Bomber
C: (19)MMA
D: (20)Moon

would make more sense statistically. Unless of course MLG is actually ranking Open Bracket players OVER the korean seeds.

Any thoughts?
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
May 18 2011 07:48 GMT
#302
bomber and losira? what the...awesome
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
May 18 2011 07:53 GMT
#303
On May 18 2011 16:37 MacAtry wrote:
I don't like the new concept of the GSL <-> MLG exchange, I think "foreign" players won't be as benefited as koreans obviously. I also agree with TT1 about the seeding format. Hopefully it turns out to work well, I'd like to see more high class tournaments like this. But I'm a little worried.
Of course I'm also excited about these games, although group C really is crazy compared to A.



ppl don't seem to understand that the 5 events leading to Nationals are essentially qualifiers where players gain as much points as they can to get a good seed for the championships.
Squirrel_x360a
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia305 Posts
May 18 2011 08:00 GMT
#304
Group C is going to prove for some really exciting games. All I can say is I am glad that we will be having two streams, to cover allt hese damn amazing games.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 18 2011 08:07 GMT
#305
Group C is the most ridiculous group I have ever seen. Together with Losira/MMA/Naniwa/Kiwi they are the 9 guys I would predict to win this tournament. And it is impossible to choose one of them. Ret please prove everybody wrong and advance out that group with a good score.

Pretty happy for Incontrol, but there is some pressure on his shoulders. NASL isn't working out for him and he has a relative easy group. But I am confident he can make it out of his group in the top 2.

Sad for TT1 and Boxxah. But once you guys make it to top 16 it will be pretty hard to get knocked out. You should be happy about that. MLG is protecting his top 16 players and you should be HAPPY about that, playing 1 bad tournament doesn't fuck everything up. Bad players will eventually go out, just fight through that open tournament again!
I had a good night of sleep.
HelloxD
Profile Joined May 2011
378 Posts
May 18 2011 08:08 GMT
#306
My predictions

Moon>Nani>Drewbie
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
May 18 2011 08:09 GMT
#307
Pool B is pretty dang easy...could see anyone from Pool C having a good shot there.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 18 2011 08:10 GMT
#308
On May 18 2011 17:08 HelloxD wrote:
My predictions

Moon>Nani>Drewbie

I dunno, I really haven't seen much in the way of solid performances from Moon. NaNi should have that group pretty easily, imo.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
HelloxD
Profile Joined May 2011
378 Posts
May 18 2011 08:12 GMT
#309
On May 18 2011 17:10 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 17:08 HelloxD wrote:
My predictions

Moon>Nani>Drewbie

I dunno, I really haven't seen much in the way of solid performances from Moon. NaNi should have that group pretty easily, imo.


I'm just wishing bro.. lol
DeLoAdEr
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Japan527 Posts
May 18 2011 08:15 GMT
#310
pool C.. LOL
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 18 2011 08:17 GMT
#311
On May 18 2011 16:21 Santi wrote:
Im going to LOL so hard if all koreans finish first in their groups.


Why?
Banelings are too cute to blow up
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 18 2011 08:18 GMT
#312
On May 18 2011 17:12 HelloxD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 17:10 Daralii wrote:
On May 18 2011 17:08 HelloxD wrote:
My predictions

Moon>Nani>Drewbie

I dunno, I really haven't seen much in the way of solid performances from Moon. NaNi should have that group pretty easily, imo.


I'm just wishing bro.. lol

would love to see moon do well, while he has failed in korea, he has done fairly well in foreign tournies (IEM)
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Roffu
Profile Joined April 2011
United States143 Posts
May 18 2011 08:20 GMT
#313
I never get how pools work, would neone mind explaining?
RuneZerg
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark90 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 08:31:39
May 18 2011 08:25 GMT
#314
sup with IdrA permanently in group of death lol,. Anyway, cant wait for MLG gonna be great!
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
May 18 2011 08:26 GMT
#315
Pool C looks pretty sick..
We make signature, then defense it.
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
May 18 2011 08:26 GMT
#316
I feel for you TT1.
I agree that its a bit retarded.

I mean, I loge Gretorp, but his performance at the last MLG was absolutely awful. The fact that he's still in the top 18 (now 16 since he got bumped twice) is a bit ridiculous...

Pool play should be awarded more IMO. Those people work way harder. =/

w/e I guess, hopefully someone will realize the retardedness and fix it.

As for the tourney itself, OMGSOSTOKED.
Tyler, man, if you make it out of C...
Just make it out of Pool C dude. YOU GOT THIS.
WeeEEeeEEEeeEEEeeeEEee!!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 08:32:21
May 18 2011 08:31 GMT
#317
On May 18 2011 17:20 Roffu wrote:
I never get how pools work, would neone mind explaining?

The 5 guys in each pool play once against everybody. After that is done a guy from the open bracket joins the pool and also plays against everybody in that pool, thus everybody ends up playing 5 games. If you end up first in your pool you advance further in the winners bracket. Otherwise you get seeded into the loser bracket, based on your position in the pool you will get seeded further (rounds) in the loser bracket.

You can read the full explanation here. Perfect explanation by motbob
I had a good night of sleep.
Roberi
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden347 Posts
May 18 2011 08:37 GMT
#318
I seriously hope that ThorZaIN qualifies into group C so that he can do a repeat of the TSL, whooping some of the best players.
A fan of ThorZaIN, MorroW, NaNiwa and SaSe. Sweden Fighting! /// @rob_eri
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
May 18 2011 08:40 GMT
#319
On May 18 2011 17:07 Koshi wrote:
Group C is the most ridiculous group I have ever seen. Together with Losira/MMA/Naniwa/Kiwi they are the 9 guys I would predict to win this tournament. And it is impossible to choose one of them. Ret please prove everybody wrong and advance out that group with a good score.

Pretty happy for Incontrol, but there is some pressure on his shoulders. NASL isn't working out for him and he has a relative easy group. But I am confident he can make it out of his group in the top 2.

Sad for TT1 and Boxxah. But once you guys make it to top 16 it will be pretty hard to get knocked out. You should be happy about that. MLG is protecting his top 16 players and you should be HAPPY about that, playing 1 bad tournament doesn't fuck everything up. Bad players will eventually go out, just fight through that open tournament again!


TT1 was seeded 3rd, the only reason he didn't go to the last MLG was because he had to play in the GSL World Championship which is pretty much a once in a lifetime thing. He went over there to represent the whole foreign scene.

Now i'm not TT1's biggest fan but the guy has every right to feel aggrieved. I'd be pissed too. Infact i think most pro gamers are with this system. This whole system is just ridiculous. He's placed well in most MLG's, even finished 2nd in one. But because he can't make it to just 1 MLG for reasons that are extremely rare. He's being punished severely for it. Meanwhile the Koreans just walk straight into the pool play despite playing no MLG games whatsoever seeded. And what do the foreigners even get in return? You play in our 5k tournament that is 3days long and get a seed that makes you extremely privileged. Get all your expenses paid for etc etc... While we get invited to play in code A which is a month long and if you're lucky and win the thing, you'll get just over 1k. Oh and you need to fund yourself living here for a month too.

Once you're in that pool play, the system is in such a way that it's REALLY hard to lose your spot. You're pretty much guaranteed at least top 25 every event. Which is just retarded, meanwhile other players have to play about 3times the games in very difficult qualifiers to be on an equal footing. I've been in competitive gaming for a long time, i played CS 1.6 competitively and went to lots of lans/events up until around 2008. So i've seen my fair share of stupid systems that people have tried to come up with. But this has got to be one of the most flawed.

I understand the logic behind the system but the honestly, it just doesn't work. It's unfair. I mean i thought the pool play was a bit too beneficial or unfair towards the players that have to work their arse off to get to a similar position before all the Korean thing went off to begin with. But at least they earned that seed with previous MLG showings. Which makes the system at least somehow justified slightly. But the Koreans are just being given something that people worked all year towards on a fucking plate.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
May 18 2011 08:41 GMT
#320
Gretorp gets in again because Socke and Huk aren't going?
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
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