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On May 18 2011 19:05 FXOpen wrote:
I think the Koreans should have to go through the open bracket just like the rest of the players. Naniwa did it and won the tournamnet, whats stopping moon or whoever doing the same?
It is sort of like gaming racism in a way really. But not a serious form of racism. I feel sorry for anyone who played 18-22 (seeing as though 2 ppl are not showing so 16 17 should get in?).
What about the code A invites GOM gave a few season back (and will again soon plus even a code S spot) to Huk, Moonglade etc? It's exactly the same thing they didn't have to go through horrible qualifiers (which are probably 10x harder then the MLG ones) while the korean players did.
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Pool C is scary just, like NASL's group 5! OMG, so excited.
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Group C :S :S
And 4 Liquid players split between 2 groups =(
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On May 18 2011 19:05 FXOpen wrote:
I think the Koreans should have to go through the open bracket just like the rest of the players. Naniwa did it and won the tournamnet, whats stopping moon or whoever doing the same?
It is sort of like gaming racism in a way really. But not a serious form of racism. I feel sorry for anyone who played 18-22 (seeing as though 2 ppl are not showing so 16 17 should get in?).
You should read the interview with Lee Chen. The whole point of the exchange is based on mutual respect between the GSL and MLG. Gom gives MLG players Code A/S spots and MLG gives Koreans spots in the seeded pools. If you want the Koreans to have to qualify through the open bracket then it would be the same as sending the MLG winners to go and qualify through Code B (which noone would actually do...consider that even when offered Code A spots, a lot of players have said they wouldn't bother taking the offer).
Forcing the invited players to qualify would defeat the entire purpose of the exchange. The way they've organised it is to give the invited players the respect they deserve and give them a seed. This exchange is about promoting international competition, and what is good for ESPORTS is obviously not necessarily good for average to middling American pros who now have to qualify through the open bracket. Unsurprisingly, most of the whining about the new format seems to be coming from this group of players =/
Arguments about the structure of the MLG format in general are fair game, but I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that seeding the Koreans into the pools is a bad idea.
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Oh......my.....god... Group C is certainly the group of death!
And taking into account that Tastosis + Day[9]/DJ Wheat/JP will be casting the games, I can't wait for MLG to start! It's gonna be awesome! 
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At least there is an even spread of races across all of the pools, and I can't wait for group C
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idra vs Bomber will be awesome
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Nuuu Idra and Ret in the same pool =[
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wtf group C?! This could easily be the top 5 of any huge tournament... The other groups are absolutely nowhere near as stacked.
So hmm yeah please stream ALL matches from group C, no matter the rest, this is going to be insane!!!
p.s.: sorry third seed from open brackets... hahaha
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Ouch, group C seems immensely more difficult than the rest, great matches inc!
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Wow, they chose those four Koreans to invite? That's pretty much a guaranteed 3 of 4 in the overall top 16... The only one who's not going to come out of those groups is Moon, and that's because he just isn't very good compared to the rest of the Koreans at SC2.
I wouldn't want to be in Group C....
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Top 6 = All koreans. Group c is really hard by i don't think it is soo much harder. The names are just bigger. Ret and Tyler aren't performing that well lately.
And it's obvious that the seeding for the koreans is ridicilous, like the non existing possibility to drop out of the pool.
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Only 4 P 
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On May 18 2011 19:45 FuRong wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 19:05 FXOpen wrote:
I think the Koreans should have to go through the open bracket just like the rest of the players. Naniwa did it and won the tournamnet, whats stopping moon or whoever doing the same?
It is sort of like gaming racism in a way really. But not a serious form of racism. I feel sorry for anyone who played 18-22 (seeing as though 2 ppl are not showing so 16 17 should get in?).
You should read the interview with Lee Chen. The whole point of the exchange is based on mutual respect between the GSL and MLG. Gom gives MLG players Code A/S spots and MLG gives Koreans spots in the seeded pools. If you want the Koreans to have to qualify through the open bracket then it would be the same as sending the MLG winners to go and qualify through Code B (which noone would actually do...consider that even when offered Code A spots, a lot of players have said they wouldn't bother taking the offer). Forcing the invited players to qualify would defeat the entire purpose of the exchange. The way they've organised it is to give the invited players the respect they deserve and give them a seed. This exchange is about promoting international competition, and what is good for ESPORTS is obviously not necessarily good for average to middling American pros who now have to qualify through the open bracket. Unsurprisingly, most of the whining about the new format seems to be coming from this group of players =/ Arguments about the structure of the MLG format in general are fair game, but I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that seeding the Koreans into the pools is a bad idea.
No it's not comparable to code b. You are totally missing "time" in your conclusions. Aswell as money. Code A winner get's like ~1k $ but he needs to stay in korea for a month. Columbus winner get's 5k $ for a 3 day tournament. That is simply not fair for the foreigners.
GSL needs foreigners to watch the gsl. Therefore they need more foreigner participating. And koreans won't watch/pay the mlg streams in the same ammount. Overall i don't think it's worth it for mlg. But definatly not for the foreign players.
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On May 18 2011 21:05 Finrod1 wrote:
Top 6 = All koreans. Group c is really hard by i don't think it is soo much harder. The names are just bigger. Ret and Tyler aren't performing that well lately.
And it's obvious that the seeding for the koreans is ridicilous, like the non existing possibility to drop out of the pool.
Naniwa is not Korean 
But you are right in the main thing, not the biggest competition for the Koreans there.
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Holy Sh*t Group C ! Gogo Sheth in B! FXO FIGHTING!
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I'm sad that Socke can't go Would make one group much more exciting :D
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the difficulty of the groups seems to be percieved as just idras group > any other. if you took group c without idra noone would be calling it the hardest like this
if group b had idra everyone would say that one was the hardest instead : D
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GO GRETORP!! Advance of of group a and stay in the championship bracket!!
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I think seeding the Koreans is fine, I mean it's not like they're taking anyone's place, 1 more player from pool still goes into each group. And the entire idea of the exchange is for the tournaments to respect the achievements of their respective players; if you think of GSL as a partner to MLG the Koreans have earned their spots in the same way that the other seeds earned their spot last year. Same idea with foreigners going to Code A/S.
Also Group C! Nony's got that shit tied down, ez mode.
And MLG realising what they forgot at Dallas and putting Machine and Inc in the same group.
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