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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
May 18 2011 10:36 GMT
#361
On May 18 2011 19:05 FXOpen wrote:
I think the Koreans should have to go through the open bracket just like the rest of the players. Naniwa did it and won the tournamnet, whats stopping moon or whoever doing the same?

It is sort of like gaming racism in a way really. But not a serious form of racism. I feel sorry for anyone who played 18-22 (seeing as though 2 ppl are not showing so 16 17 should get in?).



What about the code A invites GOM gave a few season back (and will again soon plus even a code S spot) to Huk, Moonglade etc? It's exactly the same thing they didn't have to go through horrible qualifiers (which are probably 10x harder then the MLG ones) while the korean players did.
viii
Profile Joined March 2011
United States266 Posts
May 18 2011 10:42 GMT
#362
Pool C is scary just, like NASL's group 5! OMG, so excited.
For those who came from nothing, and became something - DGK
Klaent
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden374 Posts
May 18 2011 10:42 GMT
#363
Group C :S :S
And 4 Liquid players split between 2 groups =(
"On a scale from 1 to Idra, how mad are you right now?" -ROOTDestiny
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 10:48:54
May 18 2011 10:45 GMT
#364
On May 18 2011 19:05 FXOpen wrote:
I think the Koreans should have to go through the open bracket just like the rest of the players. Naniwa did it and won the tournamnet, whats stopping moon or whoever doing the same?

It is sort of like gaming racism in a way really. But not a serious form of racism. I feel sorry for anyone who played 18-22 (seeing as though 2 ppl are not showing so 16 17 should get in?).


You should read the interview with Lee Chen. The whole point of the exchange is based on mutual respect between the GSL and MLG. Gom gives MLG players Code A/S spots and MLG gives Koreans spots in the seeded pools. If you want the Koreans to have to qualify through the open bracket then it would be the same as sending the MLG winners to go and qualify through Code B (which noone would actually do...consider that even when offered Code A spots, a lot of players have said they wouldn't bother taking the offer).

Forcing the invited players to qualify would defeat the entire purpose of the exchange. The way they've organised it is to give the invited players the respect they deserve and give them a seed. This exchange is about promoting international competition, and what is good for ESPORTS is obviously not necessarily good for average to middling American pros who now have to qualify through the open bracket. Unsurprisingly, most of the whining about the new format seems to be coming from this group of players =/

Arguments about the structure of the MLG format in general are fair game, but I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that seeding the Koreans into the pools is a bad idea.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
SMaD
Profile Joined September 2010
Spain137 Posts
May 18 2011 10:56 GMT
#365
Oh......my.....god... Group C is certainly the group of death!

And taking into account that Tastosis + Day[9]/DJ Wheat/JP will be casting the games, I can't wait for MLG to start! It's gonna be awesome!
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
May 18 2011 11:11 GMT
#366
At least there is an even spread of races across all of the pools, and I can't wait for group C
MLG Admin | Astro.631 NA
Tyri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany453 Posts
May 18 2011 11:13 GMT
#367
idra vs Bomber will be awesome
dc302
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia576 Posts
May 18 2011 11:15 GMT
#368
Nuuu Idra and Ret in the same pool =[
...
CursedFeanor
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada539 Posts
May 18 2011 11:58 GMT
#369
wtf group C?! This could easily be the top 5 of any huge tournament... The other groups are absolutely nowhere near as stacked.

So hmm yeah please stream ALL matches from group C, no matter the rest, this is going to be insane!!!

p.s.: sorry third seed from open brackets... hahaha
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
May 18 2011 12:04 GMT
#370
Ouch, group C seems immensely more difficult than the rest, great matches inc!
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Boundless
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada588 Posts
May 18 2011 12:05 GMT
#371
Wow, they chose those four Koreans to invite? That's pretty much a guaranteed 3 of 4 in the overall top 16... The only one who's not going to come out of those groups is Moon, and that's because he just isn't very good compared to the rest of the Koreans at SC2.

I wouldn't want to be in Group C....
"Sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace." - Romans 6:14
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
May 18 2011 12:05 GMT
#372
Top 6 = All koreans. Group c is really hard by i don't think it is soo much harder. The names are just bigger. Ret and Tyler aren't performing that well lately.
And it's obvious that the seeding for the koreans is ridicilous, like the non existing possibility to drop out of the pool.
DeLiriuMs
Profile Joined December 2010
Bulgaria40 Posts
May 18 2011 12:08 GMT
#373
Only 4 P
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
May 18 2011 12:09 GMT
#374
On May 18 2011 19:45 FuRong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 19:05 FXOpen wrote:
I think the Koreans should have to go through the open bracket just like the rest of the players. Naniwa did it and won the tournamnet, whats stopping moon or whoever doing the same?

It is sort of like gaming racism in a way really. But not a serious form of racism. I feel sorry for anyone who played 18-22 (seeing as though 2 ppl are not showing so 16 17 should get in?).


You should read the interview with Lee Chen. The whole point of the exchange is based on mutual respect between the GSL and MLG. Gom gives MLG players Code A/S spots and MLG gives Koreans spots in the seeded pools. If you want the Koreans to have to qualify through the open bracket then it would be the same as sending the MLG winners to go and qualify through Code B (which noone would actually do...consider that even when offered Code A spots, a lot of players have said they wouldn't bother taking the offer).

Forcing the invited players to qualify would defeat the entire purpose of the exchange. The way they've organised it is to give the invited players the respect they deserve and give them a seed. This exchange is about promoting international competition, and what is good for ESPORTS is obviously not necessarily good for average to middling American pros who now have to qualify through the open bracket. Unsurprisingly, most of the whining about the new format seems to be coming from this group of players =/

Arguments about the structure of the MLG format in general are fair game, but I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that seeding the Koreans into the pools is a bad idea.


No it's not comparable to code b. You are totally missing "time" in your conclusions. Aswell as money. Code A winner get's like ~1k $ but he needs to stay in korea for a month. Columbus winner get's 5k $ for a 3 day tournament. That is simply not fair for the foreigners.
GSL needs foreigners to watch the gsl. Therefore they need more foreigner participating. And koreans won't watch/pay the mlg streams in the same ammount. Overall i don't think it's worth it for mlg. But definatly not for the foreign players.
gnutz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany666 Posts
May 18 2011 12:17 GMT
#375
On May 18 2011 21:05 Finrod1 wrote:
Top 6 = All koreans. Group c is really hard by i don't think it is soo much harder. The names are just bigger. Ret and Tyler aren't performing that well lately.
And it's obvious that the seeding for the koreans is ridicilous, like the non existing possibility to drop out of the pool.

Naniwa is not Korean

But you are right in the main thing, not the biggest competition for the Koreans there.
blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
May 18 2011 12:18 GMT
#376
Holy Sh*t Group C ! Gogo Sheth in B! FXO FIGHTING!
Liquid
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
May 18 2011 12:21 GMT
#377
I'm sad that Socke can't go Would make one group much more exciting :D
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 12:27:43
May 18 2011 12:26 GMT
#378
the difficulty of the groups seems to be percieved as just idras group > any other. if you took group c without idra noone would be calling it the hardest like this

if group b had idra everyone would say that one was the hardest instead : D
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
May 18 2011 12:27 GMT
#379
GO GRETORP!! Advance of of group a and stay in the championship bracket!!
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
May 18 2011 12:27 GMT
#380
I think seeding the Koreans is fine, I mean it's not like they're taking anyone's place, 1 more player from pool still goes into each group. And the entire idea of the exchange is for the tournaments to respect the achievements of their respective players; if you think of GSL as a partner to MLG the Koreans have earned their spots in the same way that the other seeds earned their spot last year. Same idea with foreigners going to Code A/S.

Also Group C! Nony's got that shit tied down, ez mode.

And MLG realising what they forgot at Dallas and putting Machine and Inc in the same group.
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