Edit: *I'm sorry I wanted to include a smiley into the thread title but the 50-max-character-rule swallowed it**I think everyone is aware of the relationship between the two and how this is meant :-) *
On his website, popular German caster HomerJ regularly publishes profile pages of well-known SC2-gamers, which include short interviews. This time around: Greg "EGIdrA" Fields, who apparantly loves to make girls cry.
You can read the original post here, unfortunately it is in German, so I'll try to translate:
Q: How did you get into eSport, and gaming overall? A: A friend showed me StarCraft when I was 12. Over a longer period of time I occasionally played it and got more interested in it. Finally, while searching for StarCraft-websites, I ended up on teamliquid.net, where I found out more about progaming and eSports. It made me look at the game in a more serious way and I started to train more in order to become really good. That's how I climbed the ladder of non-korean players and teams.
Q: Why did you pick Zerg? A: I play Zerg because Artosis is an asshole and convinced me to believe Zerg is the best race. I think Zerg fits my style pretty good.
Q: What are your biggest accomplishments? A: When I won the title "King of the Beta" over Tester. This was really impressive to me because most people considered him to be the best player of the world. Then I won MLG DC, which was the first international LAN and SC2-tournament in America I went to after my time in Korea. That was pretty cool. But I think my biggest accomplishment was to finish in the top 8 of MLG Dallas 2011 with Zerg.
Q: What was your biggest defeat? A: Probably when I lost to Jinro in GSL Code S in January. It was my last GSL before I left Korea and I played really well. I felt I could beat him and reach the finals. Then we spawned in close positions twice, and I lost the 6 pool to a Marine with 5 hitpoints. That was a cruel way to lose.
Q: What was the funniest moment in your SC2-career? A: This was still in the times of Broodwar; I don't think it can be topped in any way that I made Tossgirl cry at the ESWC. [In an interview, Tossgirl admitted she "cried a lot" after losing to IdrA. See interview in this thread]
Q: What is your opinion of how the scene and the eSport will develop in the future? What will your role be in it? A: I think eSport is going to become big, SC2 already is pretty big, and I can see it only grow. Americans currently have more acceptance for RTS-games than I possibly thought just one year ago. I consider myself as a part of eSport and I want to be a progamer as long as I can pull in results.
Q: Do you have a tip for SC2 newcomers on how to improve their gaming skills the best way? A: You have to train a lot, and you should not try to be creative. You can start experimenting once you have the normal stuff down - the basics and the mechanics. Else you will always be handicapped.
Q: Last words? A: I want to thank all my fans for their support, and of course my team Evil Geniuses and our sponsors Intel, Steelseries, Monster Energy, Kingston HyperX, Six Pool Gaming, Intel Extreme Boards, Bigfoot Networds.
A: You have to train a lot, and you should not try to be creative. You can start experimenting only once you have the normal stuff down - the basics and the mechanics. Else you will always be handicapped.
This is actually good advice ^_^
Lol at the asshole and Artosis part, haha Artosis, how he you convince him to play Zerg and then switch to Protoss? xD <3 Idra humor. But he does say it fits his style, so hurrah? :D
I thought it was known that both IdrA and Artosis got together to decide what was going to be the strongest race in sc2 when they were learning stuff about it before the beta. Weird that he would blame Artosis now but i suppose nothing is IdrA's fault :s
zere's translation is pretty accurate if anyone is wondering. (In fact the German translation of the (not published?) original English interview is pretty terrible)
On May 08 2011 17:12 Casablancas wrote: How can he say that top 8 in MLG is a bigger accomplishment than top 8 in the GSL?
Because you just need to pass Ro32 and Ro16 to get into ro8. He had a semi-easy run to ro8, too.
Twice? And a semi easy run in GSL is still harder than the hardest run in MLG which had far from the best line up of foreigners. I'll go with the sarcastic zerg is imbalanced explanation.
I can imagine the troll face Artosis made after tricking IdrA to believe Zerg was the best race. But on the other side, IdrA is doing great as Zerg. Although I am really curious to what it would have been watching IdrA play Terran. Would he still have self respect then?
On May 08 2011 17:24 Psykologen wrote: I can imagine the troll face Artosis made after tricking IdrA to believe Zerg was the best race. But on the other side, IdrA is doing great as Zerg. Although I am really curious to what it would have been watching IdrA play Terran. Would he still have self respect then?
On May 08 2011 17:24 Psykologen wrote: I can imagine the troll face Artosis made after tricking IdrA to believe Zerg was the best race. But on the other side, IdrA is doing great as Zerg. Although I am really curious to what it would have been watching IdrA play Terran. Would he still have self respect then?
Zerg was probably the best race, in Beta.
Maybe in the first month of beta it was the best race but after roach nerfs it became worst.
On May 08 2011 17:24 Psykologen wrote: I can imagine the troll face Artosis made after tricking IdrA to believe Zerg was the best race. But on the other side, IdrA is doing great as Zerg. Although I am really curious to what it would have been watching IdrA play Terran. Would he still have self respect then?
Zerg was probably the best race, in Beta.
He also constantly said that Zerg fits his macro style the best, it's only that he feels imbalances are holding the race back and when the game is properly balanced zerg will be the best for him, which is why he keeps at it, that and he feels it'll take too long to get back to top-tier with a different race.
Can we can some more context on the comment "i made tossgirl cry" ? Since this occurred during the days of BW it's been quite some time...
What exactly went down? He beat her by a thin margin or a brutal stomping? Did he say something extraordinarily mean[doesn't sound like IdrA would do that(?)]. Or something else completely unrelated?
On May 08 2011 17:18 DuneBug wrote: he really ought to switch back to terran. I think he'd be pretty good at it. although he'd probably tsill bitch @ protoss.
I don't think he'd be very good at protoss.
He's managed to beat CatZ with protoss, so he's ok.
On May 08 2011 17:16 Philip2110 wrote: I thought it was known that both IdrA and Artosis got together to decide what was going to be the strongest race in sc2 when they were learning stuff about it before the beta. Weird that he would blame Artosis now but i suppose nothing is IdrA's fault :s
Q: Do you have a tip for SC2 newcomers how to improve their gaming skills the best way? A: You have to train a lot, and you should not try to be creative. You can start experimenting only once you have the normal stuff down - the basics and the mechanics. Else you will always be handicapped.
damn, he is right !! trying to be creative when you don't have everything set up is suicide going for some build you saw some1 do makes you achieve a lot less than going for your normal build this applies to everyone below masters
On May 08 2011 18:57 D_K_night wrote: Can we can some more context on the comment "i made tossgirl cry" ? Since this occurred during the days of BW it's been quite some time...
What exactly went down? He beat her by a thin margin or a brutal stomping? Did he say something extraordinarily mean[doesn't sound like IdrA would do that(?)]. Or something else completely unrelated?
On May 08 2011 17:06 zere wrote: Q: Do you have a tip for SC2 newcomers how to improve their gaming skills the best way? A: You have to train a lot, and you should not try to be creative. You can start experimenting only once you have the normal stuff down - the basics and the mechanics. Else you will always be handicapped.
On May 08 2011 18:57 D_K_night wrote: Can we can some more context on the comment "i made tossgirl cry" ? Since this occurred during the days of BW it's been quite some time...
What exactly went down? He beat her by a thin margin or a brutal stomping? Did he say something extraordinarily mean[doesn't sound like IdrA would do that(?)]. Or something else completely unrelated?
She thought she would go farther in the tournament and was shocked that she lost to a foreigner.
Any moment in your progaming career that you enjoyed and that you regretted or wanna take back? - I enjoyed beating male progamers at prelims. ^^ A regretful moment was when I lost to non-Korean players at ESWC. I felt good after beating Chinese players, but after losing to (T)IdrA, I cried a lot (though I don't usually cry; maybe the national pride got me.). It felt horrible.
On May 08 2011 17:15 Ocedic wrote: What a misleading, sensationalist thread title.
Indeed. But it did make me and you read this, so hats off to OP. We're all sensationalists deep down, though we may not wish to admit it. Media, serious business.
On May 08 2011 18:57 D_K_night wrote: Can we can some more context on the comment "i made tossgirl cry" ? Since this occurred during the days of BW it's been quite some time...
What exactly went down? He beat her by a thin margin or a brutal stomping? Did he say something extraordinarily mean[doesn't sound like IdrA would do that(?)]. Or something else completely unrelated?
idra 2-0'd her, and she considered it embarassing for a korean to lose to a foreigner
On May 08 2011 17:16 Philip2110 wrote: I thought it was known that both IdrA and Artosis got together to decide what was going to be the strongest race in sc2 when they were learning stuff about it before the beta. Weird that he would blame Artosis now but i suppose nothing is IdrA's fault :s
Thanks for posting interview anyway
Yeah, it's not like him and Artosis are friends and there's no jest in that statement... :roll:
Good interview, some humorous answers. God damn that Tossgirl crying thing is still pretty funny. Gotta love IdrA's sense of humor.
On May 08 2011 17:12 Casablancas wrote: How can he say that top 8 in MLG is a bigger accomplishment than top 8 in the GSL?
Because it was MLG 2011 where a lot of really strong europeans decided to play and Idra had a good solid run and again he did it "with Zerg". I think hes referring more to the fact that he has a hard time with Zerg and that making it to top 8 of a grueling 3 day competition is more than getting top 8 in a Korean competition where you have time in between series to prepare.
On May 08 2011 18:57 D_K_night wrote: Can we can some more context on the comment "i made tossgirl cry" ? Since this occurred during the days of BW it's been quite some time...
What exactly went down? He beat her by a thin margin or a brutal stomping? Did he say something extraordinarily mean[doesn't sound like IdrA would do that(?)]. Or something else completely unrelated?
Q: Do you have a tip for SC2 newcomers on how to improve their gaming skills the best way? A: You have to train a lot, and you should not try to be creative. You can start experimenting once you have the normal stuff down - the basics and the mechanics. Else you will always be handicapped.
On May 08 2011 20:46 Bobster wrote: GODDAMN IT ARTOSIS
Just think how much balance whining we could've avoided if he didn't talk Greg into choosing Z.
If he balance whined with terran in BW, he would balance whine with any race in any game lol
didnt terran was considered the most difficult race in BW ? if i recall correctly, terran struggeled pretty hard at the beggining of the pro leagues, until the genious terrans like as boxer and nada etc appeared.
or maybe i am horribly conffusing it with something else ?.
On May 08 2011 20:46 Bobster wrote: GODDAMN IT ARTOSIS
Just think how much balance whining we could've avoided if he didn't talk Greg into choosing Z.
If he balance whined with terran in BW, he would balance whine with any race in any game lol
didnt terran was considered the most difficult race in BW ? if i recall correctly, terran struggeled pretty hard at the beggining of the pro leagues, until the genious terrans like as boxer and nada etc appeared.
or maybe i am horribly conffusing it with something else ?.
They were the hardest to play mechanically, but at the top terrans had more success then protoss (which was considered the easier race).
Q: What was the funniest moment in your SC2-career? A: This was still in the times of Broodwar; I don't think it can be topped in any way that I made Tossgirl cry at the ESWC.
don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote: don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear
NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.
If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote: don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear
NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.
If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.
Every top player complains about their race being underpowered, though. A week or two ago they were saying MVP was trying to convince people that Terran was too weak and the worst race. I'm not saying Zerg is better than these pros are claiming, but there just seems to be perpetual disappointment and excuses from those at the top.
Q: Why did you pick Zerg? A: I play Zerg because Artosis is an asshole and convinced me to believe Zerg is the best race. I think Zerg fits my style pretty good.
His style is always choosing to play the weakest race
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote: don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear
NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.
If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.
MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote: don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear
NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.
If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.
MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?
Find me one source where MC says protoss is weak.
The fact of the matter is the rest of Korea agrees zerg is terrible.
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote: don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear
NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.
If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.
MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?
Find me one source where MC says protoss is weak.
The fact of the matter is the rest of Korea agrees zerg is terrible.
Yes, the fact of the matter can be put to rest based on your one statement that generalizes an entire country's opinion.
On May 08 2011 22:59 Escape wrote: love him or hate him, but when idra speaks; people listen.
They do? I personally didn't even read the OP, I just came to this thread for the comments and I like drama created around IdrA, not him.
IdrA has charisma ..... people listen to people with charisma no matter what they say Stalin and Hitler had charisma, but this doesn't make their opinions right. I am not comparing IdrA with Adolf Hitler, just saying having fans means nothing.
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote: don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear
NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.
If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.
MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?
Find me one source where MC says protoss is weak.
The fact of the matter is the rest of Korea agrees zerg is terrible.
it does look like zerg will have a couple month period where they will be considered op, or at least winning everything.
however that will quickly go away when protoss realizes they have hard counters for every unit zerg has and can win games despite being behind economically for the entire thing.
terrans though, a lot of people are having trouble with late game tvz and I'm not sure if it's because they are still relying on marines at the 30 minute mark, or what.
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote: don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear
NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.
If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.
MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?
Find me one source where MC says protoss is weak.
The fact of the matter is the rest of Korea agrees zerg is terrible.
On May 08 2011 17:12 Casablancas wrote: How can he say that top 8 in MLG is a bigger accomplishment than top 8 in the GSL?
Because to him, accomplishments are all about how well he does with Zerg when they are on the scale of really really really really horrible to just kinda bad. Obviously during the GSL they were just kinda bad and in MLG they were really really really really horrible.
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote: don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear
NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.
If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.
MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?
Find me one source where MC says protoss is weak.
The fact of the matter is the rest of Korea agrees zerg is terrible.
watch the sk interview good sir.
EDITED: err SK interview linked above.
IIRC in an interview with a bunch of the oGs house members, everyone besides MC said that Zerg was the weakest.
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote: don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear
NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.
If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.
MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?
Find me one source where MC says protoss is weak.
The fact of the matter is the rest of Korea agrees zerg is terrible.
On May 08 2011 17:12 Casablancas wrote: How can he say that top 8 in MLG is a bigger accomplishment than top 8 in the GSL?
Because to get GSL Top 8 you need to literally only win 2 group stages (they had Ro16 groups back then as well) in Bo1s. And, at the time IdrA was confident he could win, and get very far... at MLG Dallas he was expecting to get destroyed because he felt so underpowered.
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote: don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear
NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.
If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.
MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?
Every player will think their own race is terrible.. that's a given. But all the Terrans will think that Terran and Zerg are both weak, and all the Protoss will think that Protoss and Zerg are both weak. See the pattern?
On May 08 2011 17:16 Philip2110 wrote: I thought it was known that both IdrA and Artosis got together to decide what was going to be the strongest race in sc2 when they were learning stuff about it before the beta. Weird that he would blame Artosis now but i suppose nothing is IdrA's fault :s
On May 08 2011 18:57 D_K_night wrote: Can we can some more context on the comment "i made tossgirl cry" ? Since this occurred during the days of BW it's been quite some time...
What exactly went down? He beat her by a thin margin or a brutal stomping? Did he say something extraordinarily mean[doesn't sound like IdrA would do that(?)]. Or something else completely unrelated?
no korean wanted to lose to a foreigner in bw. it was their sport/pride. they were way ahead of the foreigners, noone was even close to them. If you watch wcg, when the koreans played the foreigners they look like bronze level players playing against top masters. She just took it to heart and cried.
I like IdrA, he is so full of confidence and he can almost recall every single bit of details of the games he has played and truely and beating a korean at bw is an insane achievement.
But I think my biggest accomplishment was to finish in the top 8 of MLG Dallas 2011 with Zerg.
What a pathetic comment coming from a pro-gamer. He was clearly under-performing in Dallas but hey, lets blame it on the game (again).
You aren't an IdrA fan are you?
IdrA is the best thing that can happen to SC2 scene by far.His play and the character he is are great, people talk/flame/hate/love him.
He is a great player and yes he can blame balance as he plays Zerg.It's quite funny that on this site balance talk is almost taboo...
I still remember MC saying during GSL before one of his matches "i'm not worried my opponent is zerg" with a smile on his face.
Anyway fun interview as always with IdrA, he's so mean making a girl cry.
I must disagree, Idra has personaly stated that he dosen't like the game, and starcraft one is much better.
Ofcourse it's always a good thing to have a guy who everyone loves to hate, but sometimes the personal attacks from Idra goes too far.
MC is a perfect example of what Idra should try to be, a person with a strong personality, strong opinions, but respect enough for other people to not throw them around for no other reason than to damage them.
Thanks for translating this inteview Idra is a very talentd player and seems like a smart guy, so I wonder when he will grow up. I mean, he is somthing like 21, isn't he? It's time to stop for a moment and introspect.
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote: don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear
NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.
If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.
MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?
Its well known that race-specfic players have an inherent bias that precludes them from making clear absolute judgements about which race is under or overpowered.
There is a reason why Blizzard employees must play random.
On May 08 2011 17:18 btx0 wrote: (In fact the German translation of the (not published?) original English interview is pretty terrible)
Yep ... its absolutely done by a translation software or by someone with only rudimentary knowledge in english and who didnt proofread it afterwards.
Guys.... you cant quite know the orignial answers from Idra, cause they were never published... so how do you know that the translation is bad? Makes me wonder....
On May 08 2011 17:18 btx0 wrote: (In fact the German translation of the (not published?) original English interview is pretty terrible)
Yep ... its absolutely done by a translation software or by someone with only rudimentary knowledge in english and who didnt proofread it afterwards.
I am actually working for homerj.de and saw the english text we got from IdrA himself and which was never published in english. So sorry pal, but you cannot judge about the german translation since you never saw the real english source.
Artosis is to blame for his race choice. Blizzard for maps and "flaws in game design" (which only Greg considers faults) Other players for playing non-zerg races Other players being so bad that you can't read their strategy from their gameplay, because they do random allins. Tossgirl for having fragile feelings and crying
I think he's going to mature in a couple more years though
1. How did you get into the eSport / Gaming Scene and what were you reasons and motivations?
A friend introduced me to StarCraft1 when I was 12, I played it casually for a long time and slowly became more interested in it. I eventually stumbled onto teamliquid.net while looking for StarCraft websites and found out about progaming and esports. That made me a lot more serious about the game, I started practicing more and playing with the intent of getting really good and started to climb the ladder of non Korean players and teams.
2. Why do you play Zerg and your very macro heavy playstyle?
I play zerg because Artosis is an asshole and convinced me that zerg would be the best race. Also they suit my style pretty well.
3. What were your greatest victories or tournament take downs?
Winning King of the Beta over tester was pretty awesome given that most people considered him the best player in the world at the time and it was nice to come away with that title. Then winning MLG DC, the first international individual lan I went to, and my first sc2 tournament back in America, was really nice. But I think my biggest achievement so far is getting top 8 at MLG Dallas 2011 with zerg.
4. What was your biggest defeat?
Probably losing to Jinro in GSL Code S January. My last GSL before leaving Korea, I had been performing pretty well, and I definitely felt I could beat him and at least make the finals. And then we got close positions twice and I lost the 6 pool game to a 5 hp marine. It was a pretty awful way to go out.
5. What was the funniest moment in your SC2 career this far?
It was in SC1 but I don't think anything can top making tossgirl cry at ESWC.
6. How will eSports develop in the future and where do you see your place in it?
I think eSports is going to be huge, SC2 is already doing incredibly well and I can only see it growing. Americans have been a lot more accepting of an RTS than I expected a year ago. I see myself as a part of eSports for a very long time. I will stay a progamer as long as I feel im capable of producing acceptable results.
7. Do you have any advices for SC2 Newbies, how they can improove their skill?
Practice a ton and don't be creative. Start experimenting after you can execute stuff properly or you're always gonna be handicapped.
8. Last words?
I'd like to thank all my fans for their support and my team Evil Geniuses and our great sponsors, Intel, Steelseries, Monster Energy, Kingston HyperX, Six Pool Gaming, Intel Extreme Boards, Bigfoot Networks.
On May 08 2011 17:18 DuneBug wrote: he really ought to switch back to terran. I think he'd be pretty good at it. although he'd probably tsill bitch @ protoss.
I don't think he'd be very good at protoss.
He was originally protoss back when he first started playing SC2.
However, he really hated pvp and felt that it didn't suit his strengths at all.
Q: What was your biggest defeat? A: Probably when I lost to Jinro in GSL Code S in January. It was my last GSL before I left Korea and I played really well. I felt I could beat him and reach the finals. Then we spawned in close positions twice, and I lost the 6 pool to a Marine with 5 hitpoints. That was a cruel way to lose.
Blah blabla :D. Never admitting he lost to the better man ^^.
Q: What was your biggest defeat? A: Probably when I lost to Jinro in GSL Code S in January. It was my last GSL before I left Korea and I played really well. I felt I could beat him and reach the finals. Then we spawned in close positions twice, and I lost the 6 pool to a Marine with 5 hitpoints. That was a cruel way to lose.
Blah blabla :D. Never admitting he lost to the better man ^^.
*shakes head*
But cool interview, still find it funny artosis switched to prot.
I am by no means an idra fan, but I think that gsl ro8, idra was a better player than jinro, but was unlucky. 2 close position is rough, and jinro abused it.
Q: What was your biggest defeat? A: Probably when I lost to Jinro in GSL Code S in January. It was my last GSL before I left Korea and I played really well. I felt I could beat him and reach the finals. Then we spawned in close positions twice, and I lost the 6 pool to a Marine with 5 hitpoints. That was a cruel way to lose.
Blah blabla :D. Never admitting he lost to the better man ^^.
He said it was sad to be knocked out by having 1 marine survive 1 extra zergling attack, not that Jinro didn't earn it.
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote: don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear
NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.
If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.
MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?
Find me one source where MC says protoss is weak.
The fact of the matter is the rest of Korea agrees zerg is terrible.
On May 09 2011 10:09 SoKHo wrote: I am by no means an idra fan, but I think that gsl ro8, idra was a better player than jinro, but was unlucky. 2 close position is rough, and jinro abused it.
He might've been a better player if you just dropped them down from the sky to start playing at a random point in time, but Jinro was crazy at preparing for a game. He'd study his opponent until he could perform a lubed rape... in starcraft...
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote: don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear
NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.
If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.
MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?
Find me one source where MC says protoss is weak.
The fact of the matter is the rest of Korea agrees zerg is terrible.
But I think my biggest accomplishment was to finish in the top 8 of MLG Dallas 2011 with Zerg.
What a pathetic comment coming from a pro-gamer. He was clearly under-performing in Dallas but hey, lets blame it on the game (again).
Oh relax, it was clearly a tongue in cheek response in a pretty casual interview.
Pretty sure that Idra is quite serious in his whines about the game's balance. What's annoying is that it rubs off on 80% of Zerg players in general, who just become martyrs and spend more time talking about how hard they have it rather than playing the game.
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote: don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear
NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.
If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.
MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?
Find me one source where MC says protoss is weak.
The fact of the matter is the rest of Korea agrees zerg is terrible.
But I think my biggest accomplishment was to finish in the top 8 of MLG Dallas 2011 with Zerg.
What a pathetic comment coming from a pro-gamer. He was clearly under-performing in Dallas but hey, lets blame it on the game (again).
Oh relax, it was clearly a tongue in cheek response in a pretty casual interview.
Pretty sure that Idra is quite serious in his whines about the game's balance. What's annoying is that it rubs off on 80% of Zerg players in general, who just become martyrs and spend more time talking about how hard they have it rather than playing the game.
Uh.. then ignore them?
Imbalances idra talks about are not the same as ladder imbalances. The game he plays is completely different from the ones platinums on ladder play.
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote: don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear
NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.
If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.
MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?
Find me one source where MC says protoss is weak.
The fact of the matter is the rest of Korea agrees zerg is terrible.
a randomer 난초 (rank 27) is higher than the highest zerg oGsCezanne (29) probably because he play terran/protoss 2/3 of the time
The fact that oGsCezanne is the highest ranked Zerg should give you an indication of how many people actually ladder seriously in Korea.
yeah, SC (1), SuperNova (5), Alive (7), MKP (8), Bomber (10), Keen (13), Polt(16), MC(20) are not serious player at all
also just notice that Gumiho(11) is now a terran, probably he got tired of playing zerg 1/3 of the time. Does wonder for his points though
and being top 200 in ladder is the only way you can participate in code B, so I would think that some people are taking it seriously
I meant it in the sense that ladder ranking shouldn't be an indication of game balance. You don't think players like Nestea or Losira couldn't destroy the ladder if they wanted to? In Korea most good players are on a team/clan so custom games are better for practice.
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote: don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear
NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.
If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.
MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?
Find me one source where MC says protoss is weak.
The fact of the matter is the rest of Korea agrees zerg is terrible.
a randomer 난초 (rank 27) is higher than the highest zerg oGsCezanne (29) probably because he play terran/protoss 2/3 of the time
The fact that oGsCezanne is the highest ranked Zerg should give you an indication of how many people actually ladder seriously in Korea.
yeah, SC (1), SuperNova (5), Alive (7), MKP (8), Bomber (10), Keen (13), Polt(16), MC(20) are not serious player at all
also just notice that Gumiho(11) is now a terran, probably he got tired of playing zerg 1/3 of the time. Does wonder for his points though
and being top 200 in ladder is the only way you can participate in code B, so I would think that some people are taking it seriously
I meant it in the sense that ladder ranking shouldn't be an indication of game balance. You don't think players like Nestea or Losira couldn't destroy the ladder if they wanted to? In Korea most good players are on a team/clan so custom games are better for practice.
Do you think all the top zergs just happen to "not take it seriously" while the top players of other races take it at least more seriously because they are certainly all doing better on ladder than the zergs? Now, balance isn't the only reason why zergs may not be performing as well, for instance most ladder maps are pretty terrible for zerg and the fact at least terran mirror matchup is less volatile than ZvZ, but it still raises some questions.
Why are people arguing with the Korean ladder when we know the following:
There is A LOT of cheese on the Korean ladder and
Blizzards maps and their close spawns / small size encourage you to cheese or allow it in the first place.
So IMO there is no point in trying to prove a point by the positions of the races on the ladder ... not until the close spawns and small maps are gone and Blizzard finally makes a decent mappool with "cheeseproof maps". Until that time we wont see Zerg at the top of that ladder due to the slow speed at which that race grows at the start of the match and which makes it impossible for Zerg to cheese (except for the sixpool probably and that is super risky against possible wall-ins).
On May 09 2011 17:36 Rabiator wrote: Why are people arguing with the Korean ladder when we know the following:
There is A LOT of cheese on the Korean ladder and
Blizzards maps and their close spawns / small size encourage you to cheese or allow it in the first place.
So IMO there is no point in trying to prove a point by the positions of the races on the ladder ... not until the close spawns and small maps are gone and Blizzard finally makes a decent mappool with "cheeseproof maps". Until that time we wont see Zerg at the top of that ladder due to the slow speed at which that race grows at the start of the match and which makes it impossible for Zerg to cheese (except for the sixpool probably and that is super risky against possible wall-ins).
yes, when one race is very weak againts cheese/early all-in and the other two are not then something is probably is not right
the ladder ranking reflect that because most people will just cheese zerg in a one off ladder game and get the win
again, when there's one sure win strategy (quick rush/all-in) that work well againts a race on multiple level of gameplay (tourney/ladder/casual) then something probably is not right
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote: don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear
NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.
If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.
MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?
Find me one source where MC says protoss is weak.
The fact of the matter is the rest of Korea agrees zerg is terrible.
watch the sk interview good sir.
EDITED: err SK interview linked above.
IIRC in an interview with a bunch of the oGs house members, everyone besides MC said that Zerg was the weakest.
Cool story bro, I was just asked to provide a link to an interview, and it was delivered above. Nestea also says zvp is imbalanced yet he said he had a 90% win ratio vs toss. We could do this all day but it is pointless. Learn new strats and grow and the game will balance itself.
the thing is MC said protoss was strong WHEN IT WAS... That proves he isnt biased, and hes actually talking real opinions. Now he says Protoss is the weakest, and he is right, as shown by the results in korea since March (zvp is like what, 75% win for zerg lately and we all know Terran are dominating everything)
MLG stats: ZvP: 68-57 (54.4%) IPL stats: ZvP: 13-13 (50%) Zerg is not the weakest race, neither there is imbalance and if there was it would be on zergs side. What Idra said that top8 with zerg in MLG was his best achievement is untrue. (this is not a whine nor balance discussion, just some facts)
On May 13 2011 02:07 SuperStyle wrote: MLG stats: ZvP: 68-57 (54.4%) IPL stats: ZvP: 13-13 (50%) Zerg is not the weakest race, neither there is imbalance and if there was it would be on zergs side. What Idra said that top8 with zerg in MLG was his best achievement is untrue. (this is not a whine nor balance discussion, just some facts)
How do wake up every morning without jumping out of the window?
On May 13 2011 02:07 SuperStyle wrote: MLG stats: ZvP: 68-57 (54.4%) IPL stats: ZvP: 13-13 (50%) Zerg is not the weakest race, neither there is imbalance and if there was it would be on zergs side. What Idra said that top8 with zerg in MLG was his best achievement is untrue. (this is not a whine nor balance discussion, just some facts)
How do wake up every morning without jumping out of the window?
Ah, another Destiny fan, maybe u should ask urself that.
On May 13 2011 02:07 SuperStyle wrote: MLG stats: ZvP: 68-57 (54.4%) IPL stats: ZvP: 13-13 (50%) Zerg is not the weakest race, neither there is imbalance and if there was it would be on zergs side. What Idra said that top8 with zerg in MLG was his best achievement is untrue. (this is not a whine nor balance discussion, just some facts)
On May 13 2011 02:07 SuperStyle wrote: MLG stats: ZvP: 68-57 (54.4%) IPL stats: ZvP: 13-13 (50%) Zerg is not the weakest race, neither there is imbalance and if there was it would be on zergs side. What Idra said that top8 with zerg in MLG was his best achievement is untrue. (this is not a whine nor balance discussion, just some facts)
How do wake up every morning without jumping out of the window?
Ah, another Destiny fan, maybe u should ask urself that.
I don't like Destiny. Just showing 50 that are in favor of his argument and says zerg is op is just ultimate retardedness.
EPT
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