[Show] Inside The Game - Official Thread - Page 349

On October 25 2012 09:32 yeastiality wrote:


sorry, got my drama threads mixed up. edited the post to remove that

On October 25 2012 09:29 zefreak wrote:


Is this really true? Times have changed since BW and WC3. Custom games were huge then, yes. HL1 had a huge, vibrant mod scene. HL2 was supposed to build on that, providing even greater support. The HL2 mod scene is a shadow of its former self. Is it because the tools were worse? Because the UI was shit? No, the tools were (in my understanding) just as good and the UI was the same. The players preferences had changed.

On October 25 2012 09:33 acgFork wrote:
I love this community

On October 25 2012 09:36 Bart wrote:
My thoughts after listening to the show in its entirety.

Destiny parting words was dead on. Funny and so true.

I thought the discussion when Destiny was on was ok actually. Thing is DJWheat is looking at e-sports and streaming growing in general (working with twitch and all) while Destiny is focused on SC2 which is dwindling in numbers. I felt Idra and Painuser had good points. I felt Incontrol gave a good closing statement in giving hope for HoTS.

I also felt DJWheat's rants after Destiny left was inappropriate but provided no solutions to help SC2 because he feels everything is alright and esports in general is growing.

MASSIVE respect to Painuser for all his points and being the voice of calmness and reason.

My final words: Thanks for the MP3.

On October 25 2012 09:36 Bart wrote:
Destiny parting words was dead on. Funny and so true.

On October 25 2012 09:46 shaldengeki wrote:


I'm seeing this sort of reaction quite a bit and I'm kind of confused; what about it was true? Are you saying that Destiny's implication here (incontrol et al are only pushing for people to try and improve the community on their own instead of relying on Blizzard because they're no longer major tournament winners and would like to see better players quit out of frustration with the game) is true? Or at all sensical?

I don't think what he said was "true" at all, and it sounds especially silly coming from a guy who is also no longer a major tournament winner. To me, it sounded like he was just lashing out at people in an irrelevant way. It makes me think that there must be some serious shit going on with Destiny's personal life.

On October 24 2012 10:51 Rezudox wrote:
Mp3 for Inside The Game Episode 57.

http://archive.org/download/InsideTheGameEpisode57/InsideTheGameEpisode57.mp3 (Right click, save as.)

Enjoy.

On October 25 2012 09:46 shaldengeki wrote:


I'm seeing this sort of reaction quite a bit and I'm kind of confused; what about it was true? Are you saying that Destiny's implication here (incontrol et al are only pushing for people to try and improve the community on their own instead of relying on Blizzard because they're no longer major tournament winners and would like to see better players quit out of frustration with the game) is true? Or at all sensical?

I don't think what he said was "true" at all, and it sounds especially silly coming from a guy who is also no longer a major tournament winner. To me, it sounded like he was just lashing out at people in an irrelevant way. It makes me think that there must be some serious shit going on with Destiny's personal life.

On October 25 2012 09:53 corpuscle wrote:


He was never a major tournament winner, not even remotely close. It was not only immature and uncalled for, but made no sense at all.

On October 25 2012 09:49 yeastiality wrote:


what other incentive could idra have to give up and not try to help SC2 (his stated course, in the ITG discussion)?
I want you to reason this out for me from his perspective.

On October 25 2012 09:50 Jellikit wrote:
Thanks, quoted because I had to search

On October 25 2012 09:57 shaldengeki wrote:

Well AFAIK the course that idra/incontrol/painuser/djwheat are promoting is for people to try and improve the SC2 community on their own instead of relying on Blizzard to do everything, not for people to just "give up and not try to help SC2". So I don't think it's fair to say that idra has given up on SC2; he does still play the game, after all.

Even if he did say that he's given up on the SC2 scene getting better (which I sincerely doubt), we all know that greg has had issues dealing with frustration and not giving up prematurely in the past. And who can blame him here? It's been a couple years and while we have seen some positive changes in SC2 from Blizzard's end, some of the biggest concerns the community has had have remained totally unaddressed.

So I don't think that this sort of thing is necessarily only explainable by some sort of secret malicious undermining of the professional SC2 scene. I think it makes a lot more sense to interpret things more charitably.

On October 25 2012 10:00 yeastiality wrote:


let me know when you've actually watched the show and heard what idra said

his position was incredibly clear, and had absolutely nothing to do with how he used to leave tournament games sometimes (back when he was in them)

On October 25 2012 10:05 CiCeRoSC2 wrote:



Destiny basically said that he though SC2 was completely screwed unless Blizzard does the changes he supports. IdrA and Geoff agreed that many of the changes should be implemented, but they don't think SC2 is screwed without the changes. They would rather work on things they can actually fix, while Destiny wants to complain about Blizzard.

On October 25 2012 03:09 iNcontroL wrote:
LOOK

I gave an amazingly over the top animated rant. It was offensive and it was mean. But it was directed at Destiny. Why is this different? Well, Destiny fucking dishes it out more so than anyone else. He doesn't make points without mocking others.. I get that: I am the same way. I felt like pretending to shit in my hand and doing a randy savage impression would make it pretty clear I was hamming it up pretty good. I in no way shape or form think this makes it "ok" or alright.. it's obscene and rude. BUT GUESS WHAT? Me ranting about fat girls wearing flip flops is mean/rude. Me ranting about horses IS mean and rude. Me comparing Artosis to a frog that eats shit off the ground IS mean and rude. I have ALWAYS joked this way. And NO this doesn't change anything.. I don't hate Destiny at all. I don't even dislike the guy.. I think he is fucking hilarious and I watch his stream frequently because I enjoy it. But I sure as fuck didn't agree with what he was saying so rather than give a straight laced boring speech I went into "rant mode" which has always been an "incontrol special" or w/e.

I am not sorry for my rant. It was a fucking joke. I am not sorry for high-fiving.. it was a fucking joke. The only thing I regret is having ever responded to this community. 2GD talks about my dead mother watching me masturbate and calls me a cunt on air and it's "Oh 2GD!" Want to know the difference? You guys know god damn well he doesn't give a fuck. I am guilty of giving a fuck.

Well there it is. I will rant and rave in the future. It's what I've done for my entire life. People usually love it but selectively and for no good reason it's also the reason "I lose respect" or "you have lost a fan today."

There are people on reddit campaigning to call the sponsors of EG and get me fired. Part of me hopes they are successful. I couldn't leave SC2 if I tried. Maybe I need this community to fucking murder me.

On October 25 2012 10:13 yeastiality wrote:


actually, idra repeatedly stated he believes the changes won't ever be implemented, and that everyone who continues pushing for them is stupid

this was different from incontrol's position, because he did not state that he thinks this

it's also not simply that "destiny wants to complain about blizzard" and you know it isn't, so why post like that? you're not sponsored by monster and I don't know where to follow you on twitter, so there's no need to act like you're hot shit

I hope this has been enlightening. I'm gonna go play warsow now, instead of arguing about things you can see for yourself for free