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Philip2110
Profile Joined April 2010
Scotland798 Posts
May 11 2011 13:44 GMT
#241
I just listened to the first 2 episodes in a row. Im glad i checked this show out love it
Master Sc2 - Diamond LoL - Eu W
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 13:56:28
May 11 2011 13:47 GMT
#242
On May 11 2011 22:43 djWHEAT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 09:37 Whitewing wrote:
djWHEAT, not to sound like I'm angry, I'm not, but I'm curious if you give preference to people who call via skype, or if you actually do answer phone calls? It seemed as if you didn't take any calls via phone, and everyone in chat was agreeing with that sentiment.

EDIT: Ignore me, you did take one near the end.


I understand the curiosity. Let me break it down for you. The other two shows that take calls, Weapon of Choice and Live On Three, generally have about 10-20 callers trying to reach the phone during the Open Phone segments.

Inside the Game has approximately 70-100 callers trying to reach the show. My select is completely random. The only "pattern" I tend to follow is to try to swap back and forth between a SKYPE caller and a PHONE caller. It's actually EASIER and BETTER for us to take the phone callers, because there's a smaller chance that they will actually have problems (like when people call via skype but then listen to us via the stream). However, I try to give everyone equal footing.

It's not much different than a radio show where your chances of getting on are fairly slim. Which is also why we encourage people to mail in things as well.

Hope that at least helps understanding the volume of callers we're dealing with. Out of about 300 callers who tried to get through last night, we only answered about 6 or 7 calls total. ^_^


Clearly helps your chances to have a name like Goatlust though, right? =p

Yeah, I understand.

@TOPIC/QUESTION: I have a question for iNcontroL, if it'd be possible to address it in the next show, if not, I completely understand, and I apologize for wasting your time.

I've been doing a good amount of analysis in my 'copious' spare time on the warp gate mechanic, and have come to the conclusion that it is being extremely underused in it's effectiveness. People are using warp gates in 3 ways currently: timing based attacks with a large influx of units due to the front loaded nature of the production (4 gate/6 gate attacks), shortening reinforcement distances, and quick replenishment when maxxed and banking resources. However, because people focus so much on making use of robotics units, it is impossible to take advantage of the real power of the warp gate mechanic in the mid-late game. I've been experimenting with the warp prism speed buff and getting 2-3 warp prisms at the same time, flying around doing archon/DT drops and warping in DTs and zealots/sentries in multiple locations at the same time as harassment to essentially fill the role of phoenix for a pin without having to spend that amount of gas (the gas goes into upgrades and research and high templar/archons instead) and has a lot more power behind the harass, while having less weakness. You are also less open to large timings while you are weak after opening phoenix, and fast warp prisms are actually quite difficult to pin down (they're about as durable as a phoenix is), and are cheap to remake if you lose one.

It also avoids the mobility issue of robotics units and being forced to keep your army balled up.

So far, I've found that I'm winning almost all of my PvT's and PvZ's using this method, relying entirely on only gateway units, observers and warp prisms with speed. Does iNcontroL think this style of play is sustainable at the pro-level of play, and that it's not being utilized simply because robo units are easy to use, or is it working for me only because it's below the pro level or that nobody expects it. In other words: how does iNcontroL feel about heavy warp prism play (2-3 at a time with only gateway units, no robo or stargate units other than the warp prism).
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 23:55:12
May 11 2011 23:36 GMT
#243
Edited: i was wondering how to download file, but i found the blip.tv site
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
-vVvTitan-
Profile Joined August 2010
United States473 Posts
May 12 2011 06:22 GMT
#244
vVvTitan---- I just want to defend myself of what was said in this show by Stan.

Yes, I have taught him for 2 hours in the past, but this was over a month ago. After hearing how the conversation progressed, I contacted Stan and he apologized for making it sound as if I was to blame for his staggered growth.

Having said that, I just wish to express that I do know what I am doing in my teaching, and there are various students who can attest to the results I have helped them achieve.

As for Stan, he just lacks the correct attitude and discipline in his practice sessions. A good analogy would be a Musician. Although the pianist practices 5-8 hours a day, it is how he practices that will decide if he will be a virtuoso or not.

I wish him the best
vVv.Titan @ vVv-Gaming.com
f4natic
Profile Joined May 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 16:34:18
May 13 2011 16:33 GMT
#245
I've only whatched the first episode.. And beside great job guys i wanna tell u to get a better layout for this show. it's so bad designed .. the camera space is so tiny and there is so much "dead space" that can be used for more fancy things or larger camera space for the guys who makes the show.
randplaty
Profile Joined September 2010
205 Posts
May 13 2011 17:47 GMT
#246
On May 12 2011 15:22 Titan107 wrote:
vVvTitan---- I just want to defend myself of what was said in this show by Stan.

Yes, I have taught him for 2 hours in the past, but this was over a month ago. After hearing how the conversation progressed, I contacted Stan and he apologized for making it sound as if I was to blame for his staggered growth.

Having said that, I just wish to express that I do know what I am doing in my teaching, and there are various students who can attest to the results I have helped them achieve.

As for Stan, he just lacks the correct attitude and discipline in his practice sessions. A good analogy would be a Musician. Although the pianist practices 5-8 hours a day, it is how he practices that will decide if he will be a virtuoso or not.

I wish him the best



What is the correct attitude and discipline that he's lacking? Is he just laddering and not focusing on specific matchups with a specific practice partner? Is it like what he said, he doesn't analyze replays?

I only ask because I play about 1-2 hours a day and I'm not really improving either. Obviously I don't play 5-8... but... just wondering if maybe Stan and I have the same problem.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
May 13 2011 18:32 GMT
#247
Hi yeah I'm the stan that called in and just wanted to say that I in no way meant to sound like I wasn't getting a lot from titan. I'm a huge fan of idra, so of course getting to call and ask him a question, I kinda stumbled over my words, and afterwords realized that what I had said made it sound like titan was a bad coach. That is very far from the truth, the couple lessons he did give me were very insightful and helpfull, and he regularly gives me advice when I ask him. So yeah, titans an amazing player, coach, and friend, and I really hope that my call and me sounding like an idiot didn't deter anyone from getting lessons from titan.

If anything titan is probably to thank for the little improvements I have made, and having known him and seeing him play, and seeing idra play in tournaments are the reasons I even switched over to zerg when I did, and a big reason of why I keep being inspired to keep playing zerg and hoping to someday get good enough to play on their level.

Also I like how after the call djwheat made fun of me "jeeze 5-8 hours a day? if i had that kind of time i tell you what" lol :D anyway <3 titan and idra sorry I'm just awful at the game and apparently awful at talking and phrasing questions.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
May 14 2011 23:15 GMT
#248
I love the disco music in the intro :D gets me pumped
djWHEAT
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States925 Posts
May 17 2011 15:22 GMT
#249
On May 14 2011 01:33 f4natic wrote:
I've only whatched the first episode.. And beside great job guys i wanna tell u to get a better layout for this show. it's so bad designed .. the camera space is so tiny and there is so much "dead space" that can be used for more fancy things or larger camera space for the guys who makes the show.


See Episode 2
OneMoreGame.tv // Weapon Of Choice // Kings Of Tin // Inside The Game // Live On Three
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 17 2011 23:29 GMT
#250
You guys didn't talk about sentry as a attacking unit
Are you hurting ESPORTS? Find out today - http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=232866
Slunk
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany768 Posts
May 17 2011 23:36 GMT
#251
Has anyone tried watching OneMoreGame via iPhone app? I can watch any other stream just fine, but this one allways cuts off after like 3 seconds.
NightAngel
Profile Joined June 2010
United States144 Posts
May 17 2011 23:57 GMT
#252
On May 05 2011 01:30 djWHEAT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 00:02 NightAngel wrote:
Was I the only viewer who attempted to add djWHEAT on Skype, but he was offline?

What is the correct process to go about making a Skype call to ITG?


A few others reported this as well. I believe the newest version of skype automatically shows someone as OFFLINE if you are not a contact on their list. This was previously not the case (it would only happen when you were on DND). So I need to go back in and verify the settings.

In an effort to give people more time to MUTE the stream as well, we'll be picking up calls and then giving them a moment to adjust/mute the stream accordingly. I think I'll be making a little video about this so people have reference.

One thing I would mention, is that these problems seem to go bye-bye when you just use your phone to call in. But I realize that's a bit more difficult to get through than just sitting and letting your Skype auto-ring.

I do typically bounce back and forth between Skype callers and Phone Numbers (I can tell on my side which is which).

BTW, this is what it looks like when 300 people are calling you on skype at once :D After about 30 or so calls, skype starts stacking them on top of one another, so I had to constantly be moving them out of the way haha

http://yfrog.com/h3fwbsfj


Thank you so much for the info, djWHEAT! <3 Much appreciated.
[QUOTE][B]On August 05 2011 05:06 Beerdrinker wrote:[/B] TSL needs to be more sensitive about doing business in korea, they need to be respectful of the culture, their contracts and verbal obligations[/QUOTE]
Kolvacs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1203 Posts
May 17 2011 23:58 GMT
#253
Does anyone else notice that the two "masters" player questions are like REALLY bad.
But the one Diamond league player asks a really good question?
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
May 17 2011 23:59 GMT
#254
On May 18 2011 08:58 Kolvacs wrote:
Does anyone else notice that the two "masters" player questions are like REALLY bad.
But the one Diamond league player asks a really good question?

Yeah.

Btw incontrol is always trolling LOL
Master League Zerg - EGIdrA - IMNesTea - EGMachine - EGIncoNtrol - IMLosirA - Destiny - MVPDRG -
AxelTVx
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada916 Posts
May 18 2011 00:13 GMT
#255
@TOPIC/QUESTION I just want to know what would be an ideal patch 1.4.0 for you guys. NOT BALANCE, but features to IMPROVE the game (eg. B.net 2.0 fixes, ec)

@TOPIC/QUESTION What do you guys (Painuser + Geoff) Think about the Huk PvT FE Build?
Axel 145 Masters Protoss
NightAngel
Profile Joined June 2010
United States144 Posts
May 18 2011 00:18 GMT
#256
Dear djWHEAT,

Since I know that you are being pummeled by callers during the show, and I know that you have taken a question from these forums before, I would like to voice my question here:

This question is designated fro all 3 professional gamers on the show. Do you feel as though the Contaminate ability will become a major part of the Zerg endgame? I know that this ability is used sporadically by some players; however, I feel as though this ability has enormous potential for players who have the APM available to tab into it.

Thank you.
[QUOTE][B]On August 05 2011 05:06 Beerdrinker wrote:[/B] TSL needs to be more sensitive about doing business in korea, they need to be respectful of the culture, their contracts and verbal obligations[/QUOTE]
odE
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland177 Posts
May 18 2011 00:23 GMT
#257
I live inccontrol
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
May 18 2011 00:29 GMT
#258
RETURN OF GOATLUST. He needs to be a weekly caller!!!
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
May 18 2011 00:30 GMT
#259
i like to think that goatlust, cockhorse and poopfeast420 are the same person
life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories and crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously but there it is. Life finds a way
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
May 18 2011 00:31 GMT
#260
On May 18 2011 09:30 rolfe wrote:
i like to think that goatlust, cockhorse and poopfeast420 are the same person

most likely.
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