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Tacky
Sweden21 Posts
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RedDragon571
United States633 Posts
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
 Does any1 know if there is a european broadcast or should I just go find the Vods or smthn? | ||
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Demonaz
United Kingdom1219 Posts
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densha
United States797 Posts
This thread is way overblown I think, or maybe everyone has such low expectations because of the NASL. What I saw of the VODs felt like a Youtube cast and doesn't seem to deserve the amount of accolades I'm reading here. The graphics and everything were slick and the post-game screen is a great idea, but that alone doesn't help how boring having just one caster is. Duos need to happen for "major" events like this, I think that was the primary reason it felt like a normal Youtube cast to me. I like the idea of it, I like that this is just a test run, and I like that everything pretty much went well aside from the leaked tourny results and single-caster style. However, this isn't the league I've been waiting for, not yet anyway. It doesn't have that "live" feel to me like the GSL does for example. I kinda want to see the casters, have them talk and analyze, have some cool hype like this seasons GSL intro videos to the Code S matches (shouldn't be hard with all that interview footage, with the production quality this sort of thing could be amazing), etc. Starting small is good, but I think the NASL is moving more in the right direction as far as how a league should look and feel. I just feel like there should be *something* to get rid of the Youtube-y feel. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
It is better production-wise then NASL but not as much better as one would get a feeling by reading this topic. Maybe stream had something VODs do not?! I still think Dreamhack was far superior to both IPL and NASL and that is what all of them should strive for. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On April 22 2011 13:50 andy186 wrote: Bullshit you aren't attacking him. Almost every single post that says something bad about IGNPL. You have jumped in going OMG how dare you say something bad. If it doesn't affect you sit down and stop making yourself look stupid by attacking everyone Fairly sure I'm not the one taking offence at being told his opinion isn't pure internet gold. If you think that is 'attacking' then I can't help ya because it seems to me you're getting overly emotional and sensitive. When people eventually realise their opinion is one of many, many opinions and unless it contains useful constructive criticism them it won't be taken seriously, the happier we'll all be. | ||
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Escapist
Portugal548 Posts
One of the intentions behind this event was to get e-sports in general and SC2 in specific to reach an untapped audience that uses IGN as a bridge to everything game related. Based on that i was expecting a much more refined presentation of the players and the game itself. Also its perfectly understandable that for the 1st event the playerbase will be very "local" based. Basically they're all NA server players and it feels like its catering to the NA community leaving the rest on the side. Hopefully on future leagues that can be expanded. Firts impressions: - Cartoonish presentation instead of showing who are the persons behind the keyboard not a good idea in my personal opinion - Lackluster on providing players background and drawing in the viewer for something more than an online match - Great video quality on the VODs - Excellent video quality on the livestream - Good casting by all casters, but no proper background provided by any of them on who the players are. So, i liked it quite a lot and it can only get better. The technical side of it seems to be close to mastered now IGN just needs to add a bit of a heart to it so it can feel "human". Keep up the good work and thank you for the free VODs. | ||
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towerranger
Austria134 Posts
the problem is that i cant really watch totalbiscuit cast. he overlooks so much and doesnt go into stratagy at all. i enjoy NASL much more. because they have actuall pros commentating, they go into strat, they know the common/rising builds and i feel like that is what you need to do to bring in new people. its like poker on tv, they teach you every commercial break how the game works. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On April 22 2011 18:23 towerranger wrote: yeah production was quite nice. i liked the overlay and the interviews they threw out weeks before. the problem is that i cant really watch totalbiscuit cast. he overlooks so much and doesnt go into stratagy at all. i enjoy NASL much more. because they have actuall pros commentating, they go into strat, they know the common/rising builds and i feel like that is what you need to do to bring in new people. its like poker on tv, they teach you every commercial break how the game works. New people don't care about the metagame nor indepth analysis. You enjoy NASL much more because you are not new to the game. Different strokes for different folks. | ||
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Airship
United States465 Posts
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sicarii
United States93 Posts
On April 22 2011 10:35 divito wrote: It's not about not wanting NASL to succeed. Everyone wants great matches, features and competition for the hobby that we all enjoy. NASL so far has fell very short of the hype that was around it and what a lot of people were hoping for and expecting. IGN in comparison, for production values and other associated markers, is incredibly above the quality that NASL has put out so far. It just seems like the disparity is great between that which is put out by amateurs trying to be professional, and those that have put in a great deal of time and chose intelligent avenues to go down. /agree and if i have to choose one over the other like i did last night I will choose IPL every single time. Looking forward to Season 2+ with an open tournament like the GSL opens. with a comparable prize pool hopefully. | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On April 22 2011 18:35 sicarii wrote: /agree and if i have to choose one over the other like i did last night I will choose IPL every single time. Looking forward to Season 2+ with an open tournament like the GSL opens. with a comparable prize pool hopefully. i agree. Thats another thing that IPL is doing right. The Open tournament for all but 4 spots. I believe this is the best way to allow equal opportunity for all players. Plus it doesn't allow players to sit on some crutch like the nasl allows. OSL/MSL in korea have it down pat i think nasl has to do the same. Players should have to keep earning their spot rather than have an ez in. I can't wait to watch more IPL! | ||
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
On April 22 2011 18:27 TotalBiscuit wrote: New people don't care about the metagame nor indepth analysis. You enjoy NASL much more because you are not new to the game. Different strokes for different folks. I think you do well, your play-by-play is the best of any play-by-play caster imo... better than djwheat kinda, but IPL does need an analytical/progamer to cast... we can't have ALL play by players. | ||
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unoriginalname
England380 Posts
On April 22 2011 18:27 TotalBiscuit wrote: New people don't care about the metagame nor indepth analysis. That is a rather sweeping generalisation, aren't new people attracted to Day[9] because of exactly those two things? I do however think your "energy" is fine to listen to, but I cringe whenever you say things along the lines of 'this is an odd place to put a pylon' when a person is putting it behind the smoke screen to gain vision of that area. This is not "indepth analysis" but rudimentary knowledge that all people who want to cast any games should have. I really enjoyed your World of Warcraft work, especially your interview with Ekke and Awake a while back (I think that was you), but I keep thinking that you are out of your depth with professional games, but this can easily be addressed by putting you alongside an analysing commentator who would solve the one caster issue people are having with the IPL. We cannot expect to have every event casted by prominent ex-BroodWar players who know every little intricacy of the game, but is expecting the new blood to have a decent level of understanding for the game they're promoting too much to ask? :Edit: I should add that your play-by-play is absolutely fantastic to listen to. | ||
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fabulously
Norway724 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On April 22 2011 18:41 Vei wrote: I think you do well, your play-by-play is the best of any play-by-play caster imo... better than djwheat kinda, but IPL does need an analytical/progamer to cast... we can't have ALL play by players. There is an analyst/progamer, Painuser. HD/Painuser are doing the lion's share of the rest of the content, including the finals. In this case, IPL wanted to put out a strong, polished showing in terms of production values and appeal to it's own audience. It is as they've said, a test-bed for them, their 'Clash of the Titans'. High audio quality is something that doesn't seem to get valued all that much, but if folks want eSports to get bigger, then they have to put a greater emphasis on production values. In this case, with this timeframe, it made more sense to grab 2 solo commentators and a duo team who could cast from the same studio (HD/Painuser live right next to each other). Everyone has heard the call for duo teams for Season 2 and we all agree with it, but it will have to be done in the same location with a proper setup that sounds good. TSL is amazing, but the audio quality and sync issues resulting from online co-casting a replay is probably it's biggest weakness of the very few it actually has. That is a rather sweeping generalisation, aren't new people attracted to Day[9] because of exactly those two things? . New people are attracted to Day9 because he is a teacher and they are his students. Day9 Dailies are not the same as tournament casts and shouldn't be treated as such. They want to get better at the game by learning, that's why they watch Day9. Doesn't hurt that he has a personality so magnetic that it generates it's own gravity well. | ||
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Kojaimea
United Kingdom277 Posts
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