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rickybobby
Profile Joined October 2010
United States405 Posts
April 22 2011 07:29 GMT
#541
i feel like you can really see the resources that ign has put into it. NASL (which i do enjoy) is so much bumpier then ipl
mufin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States616 Posts
April 22 2011 07:32 GMT
#542
ooook... so its 3 am, just finished a huge project for my class, the VODs are up for the IPL and I must say I am SUPER impressed by the infastructure of the VODs. I absolutely love the IGN player, i love how everything is so easy and accessible. and the best part is that you click on a series and once the first match is done, it autoloads up into the 2nd match. Absolutely no way to get accidentally spoiled in any way shape or form. NASL is gonna have their hands full if they wish to compete with this.
I only make 5 actions per minute. But since I use all my time deliberating and planning, my 5 actions are so brutally devastating that children cry out and grown men weep.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
April 22 2011 07:35 GMT
#543
Seems to me they have been inspired by all the right places, this is good :D
Trashie
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway131 Posts
April 22 2011 07:44 GMT
#544
Really impressed with the overall production. The Street Fighter theme is so god damn awesome.
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3050 Posts
April 22 2011 07:48 GMT
#545
Holy moly, saw the VODs in HD :D and wasn't disappointed. The production quality was awesome. Definitely something I will use my time to follow later on. TB's casting was also good.
End my suffering
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
April 22 2011 07:51 GMT
#546
On April 22 2011 16:32 mufin wrote:
ooook... so its 3 am, just finished a huge project for my class, the VODs are up for the IPL and I must say I am SUPER impressed by the infastructure of the VODs. I absolutely love the IGN player, i love how everything is so easy and accessible. and the best part is that you click on a series and once the first match is done, it autoloads up into the 2nd match. Absolutely no way to get accidentally spoiled in any way shape or form. NASL is gonna have their hands full if they wish to compete with this.


Oh, for me it shows a "Play again" button to go to the next VOD, also I have some strange framing issues with the video player... anyone else as well?
moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
April 22 2011 07:54 GMT
#547
This just blew my mind as to how well they did it. No big mistakes, and everything ran smoothly.

I think Idra also tweeted about this. Keep going strong, since I really don't have anything else to say o.O
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 22 2011 07:56 GMT
#548
On April 22 2011 16:51 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 16:32 mufin wrote:
ooook... so its 3 am, just finished a huge project for my class, the VODs are up for the IPL and I must say I am SUPER impressed by the infastructure of the VODs. I absolutely love the IGN player, i love how everything is so easy and accessible. and the best part is that you click on a series and once the first match is done, it autoloads up into the 2nd match. Absolutely no way to get accidentally spoiled in any way shape or form. NASL is gonna have their hands full if they wish to compete with this.


Oh, for me it shows a "Play again" button to go to the next VOD, also I have some strange framing issues with the video player... anyone else as well?


I have this problem with the HD VODs, but the SD ones work perfectly fine.
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mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
April 22 2011 07:59 GMT
#549
On April 22 2011 16:21 adeezy wrote:
I don't know about you but im very particular about quality and frame rate. If it's more attractive to the eye, I'll watch it. And if it's pleasing to the ears in quality, I'll listen to it. This is what the iPL has done that NASL needs to do if it wants to gain viewers. And as for the casters, people criticize casters without much more substance than : I want more analysis. I bet you if you put InControl saying the same exact things say djwheat was saying but incontrol just read it out, you would consider the analysis to be fine. People just want faces behind credibility and I think it's silly.

I on the other hand do not care about video and sound quality beyond the basic watchable one. So NASL 480p is ok for me, sound is not, so hopefully they will fix it. On the other hand I care about quality of gameplay and I want more analysis. Which has all the substance necessary, for me the excitement is not in exploding visual things but in strategical subtleties, but since I am not top level player I won't catch all of them and for that you need knowledgeable caster. And no I do not judge by faces, but by their words. If they make sense and are right they gain credibility for the future.

But as I said I am not their target audience so ...
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
April 22 2011 08:01 GMT
#550
On April 22 2011 16:56 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 16:51 Ketch wrote:
On April 22 2011 16:32 mufin wrote:
ooook... so its 3 am, just finished a huge project for my class, the VODs are up for the IPL and I must say I am SUPER impressed by the infastructure of the VODs. I absolutely love the IGN player, i love how everything is so easy and accessible. and the best part is that you click on a series and once the first match is done, it autoloads up into the 2nd match. Absolutely no way to get accidentally spoiled in any way shape or form. NASL is gonna have their hands full if they wish to compete with this.


Oh, for me it shows a "Play again" button to go to the next VOD, also I have some strange framing issues with the video player... anyone else as well?


I have this problem with the HD VODs, but the SD ones work perfectly fine.


Yeah, SD works better in that respect. If I select HD it seems to open the webpage again in the video player with the player embedded in that. Don't know what exactly happens though
edward.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
47 Posts
April 22 2011 08:08 GMT
#551
I mentioned this in the other thread, we'll work with the dev team tomorrow to see if we can come up a spoiler-free solution to being able to see later games.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
April 22 2011 08:15 GMT
#552
The stream quality was amazing. I only have one complaint and that is there needs to be two casters. I love Wheat and TB, but it's just too much having them alone. What makes tournaments a lot of fun is the banter between casters. Get a color commentator in with each of them and IPL will be THE league outside of GSL. The production quality was just fantastic. I especially loved the stats after each game. Very cool.
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Executor1
Profile Joined April 2011
1353 Posts
April 22 2011 08:17 GMT
#553
On April 22 2011 14:33 Dommk wrote:
I agree with the sentiment that IPL is doing what NASL wanted to do.

But as it is, NASL has a long road ahead of them. What they are doing is much bigger of a task than IPL. The way IPL has done it is much smater though, started small without a lot of hype then grow it.

It isn't like NASL is terrible, but IPL, IMO, will have greater success, just due to quality alone. Although I'm quite content watching just the games, a lot of people need more to draw them in, especially those who aren't enthusiasts already.

But the internet has a thing for quality, make great content and people will come. NASL already has a large following, if they take community feedback seriously then they are only going to get bigger.

In the future I think NASL will have to adopt the IGN approach, of free Vods w/ advertising and better production quality. But for now just fixing the video/sound issues and improving the casting will go a long way

For most of the IPL it had double the viewers of the NASL, 7 k viewers for a majority of the day is not a large following and they will not succeed with those numbers or even get by. I dont think they will succeed with 20k viewers either they were expecting to probably get more than TSL (40-50k at times) but aside from the first day were they had 20 something this just isnt happening people are turning away from the NASL in large numbers as there are better tournaments with better casters higher production value and very few errors. NASL is riddled with errors and terrible production, I wish there was a point where i could say it was okay during the NASL but they have yet to fix the framerate or the sound yet and those things just make it blaringly obvious how much work the NASL needs.

Not to mention their caster room is the most bland thing i have ever seen, i would prefer cool graphics and no view of the casters at all, then just a grey room that looks like its in somebody's basement, it literally is just completely grey and says NASL behind it, cant really get anymore bland than that, without having 2 guys just sitting in chairs in a black room with nothing in front of them, thats pretty much as bland as it gets.

IPL has done a fantastic job with production quality,and is an absolute joy to watch, i applaud them. NASL well they have alot of work to do, seems like everything is going wrong for them, i feel like i wasted 25 bucks, id prefer to just give my 25 bucks to IGN even though its free just because they have done such a fantastic job and seem more deserving of my money.

NASL is just another example of a really ambitious esports league failing (at least so far they are going to have to really step it up to turn peoples oppinions around) honestly the owners of NASL must feel like they are having their worst nightmare come true right now , all this money has to be given away for a tournament that isnt even pulling in 10k viewers most of time, uh oh.
edward.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
47 Posts
April 22 2011 08:28 GMT
#554
Alright guys, for those of you that have been asking to jump to a specific match - you should be able to do this from the individual match pages found on the brackets page here - http://www.ign.com/ipl/starcraft2/tournaments/best-of-the-west

Let us know if you have any other questions!
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
April 22 2011 08:31 GMT
#555
On April 22 2011 17:28 edward.IGN wrote:
Alright guys, for those of you that have been asking to jump to a specific match - you should be able to do this from the individual match pages found on the brackets page here - http://www.ign.com/ipl/starcraft2/tournaments/best-of-the-west

Let us know if you have any other questions!


I was really quite shocked to see that you could go straight to a specific match vod from the bracket. Ign is really raising the bar for NA SC2.
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
April 22 2011 08:33 GMT
#556
On April 22 2011 17:28 edward.IGN wrote:
Alright guys, for those of you that have been asking to jump to a specific match - you should be able to do this from the individual match pages found on the brackets page here - http://www.ign.com/ipl/starcraft2/tournaments/best-of-the-west

Let us know if you have any other questions!


ah. But if you link it from the brackets, you'll get spoilers.
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edward.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
47 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 08:38:51
April 22 2011 08:38 GMT
#557
On April 22 2011 17:33 KevinIX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 17:28 edward.IGN wrote:
Alright guys, for those of you that have been asking to jump to a specific match - you should be able to do this from the individual match pages found on the brackets page here - http://www.ign.com/ipl/starcraft2/tournaments/best-of-the-west

Let us know if you have any other questions!


ah. But if you link it from the brackets, you'll get spoilers.


The age old Catch-22 - the idea is if you're looking for a specific match you're not as concerned as the end-result, because otherwise you'd just watch directly from the videos page
noproblem
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom161 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 09:23:00
April 22 2011 08:38 GMT
#558
I have to admit that the IPL is what I imagined the NASL to be but the vods are free, the casters are brilliant, there are no sound and streaming issues and it is just all round feels and watches better.

What I really like is there no loooooooong play intros, you are straight into the game which is really refreshing and much needed for time scarce people like myself.

NASL and to a certain extent the MLG have a quite a way to catch up imho. Competition is great and it will only push all three to out do each other and up their quality.

Great job to those guys at WellPlayed and IGN.
(╯°□°)╯︵ du
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 22 2011 08:45 GMT
#559
On April 22 2011 17:28 edward.IGN wrote:
Alright guys, for those of you that have been asking to jump to a specific match - you should be able to do this from the individual match pages found on the brackets page here - http://www.ign.com/ipl/starcraft2/tournaments/best-of-the-west

Let us know if you have any other questions!


Ahhhhh SPOLIER alert, Luckily I didnt see the outcome of the 2 matches I still have to watch .
I had a good night of sleep.
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
April 22 2011 08:55 GMT
#560
The solo casting is fine for me. Analytical commentary is ok, but it is really annoying when people try to be analytical, and are way off. I'd prefer exercizing my own analytical skills during the game, and thinking for myself, instead of hearing a commentator guess what will happen. Just me.

On another note: I fully agree with the rest of the community- this league ate NASL alive. Superior quality, superior casters (yes, I think TotalBiscuit is the best caster in the industry, feel free to dissent, I could care less), superior animations, no need to pay, no 'no-shows'.

Sure, the players may not be as huge names are they are in the NASL, however the superior production value easily makes up for that.

Excellent work IGN. Very, very proud of your work. Not to flame NASL, but you desperately need to adopt their business model. It is simply more polished and well-rounded.
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