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RyanRushia
United States2748 Posts
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space_yes
United States548 Posts
On April 22 2011 12:43 Zeri wrote: Just cause its shinier does NOT mean its better. IPL cannot compete with the player lineup and the amount of matches NASL has right now. Lets remember why we love starcraft so much. We love the players and the competition! No we want silly portrait art!  | ||
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Cataphract
United States69 Posts
"AND ITS SELECT BY A NOSE!!!" The cast was amazing. DJwheat was really good. Solo casts are normally not the best, but he proved he could hold his own in casting. I loved his total Zerg bias in some of the games though. Added flavor. Something that I like that both IPL and NASL does is allowing players to pick their own colors. Adds some flavor to a bland Red/Blue color scheme. | ||
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shindigs
United States4795 Posts
On April 22 2011 12:43 Zeri wrote: Just cause its shinier does NOT mean its better. IPL cannot compete with the player lineup and the amount of matches NASL has right now. Lets remember why we love starcraft so much. We love the players and the competition! I agree, I really enjoy the quality of matches the NASL offers. That being said, the IPL made a hell of a first impression and I think a lot of pros will be accepting of an invite once the IPL expands. Pretty damn good showing. | ||
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Nerdslayer
Denmark1130 Posts
On April 22 2011 12:43 Zeri wrote: Just cause its shinier does NOT mean its better. IPL cannot compete with the player lineup and the amount of matches NASL has right now. Lets remember why we love starcraft so much. We love the players and the competition! I agree but us from EU can watch it so wtf is the point!! | ||
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j0k3r
United States577 Posts
On April 22 2011 12:27 Terranist wrote: NASL runs for three months, massively bigger prizepool, more good players, in depth analysis by experienced pros, post-game player interviews and thoughts... and somehow this just isn't good enough for some people in the community. makes me sad. I don't know about massively bigger pool, season one Ipl is to seed top 4 into a 32 man season 2 with a $50,000 pool. And if attention grows expect ign to fund even bigger prizes. Tonight was top notch production, wellplayed really shined. | ||
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
Uhhh interview with Alex from IGN at wellplayed.org: Well if this is the case they should explain themselves. Either way their production quality was obviously higher but to say you are volunteers and to actually have a paid component is misleading. | ||
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
On April 22 2011 12:36 TotalBiscuit wrote: I find this phrase really obnoxious. Am I alone in that? it does seem a little obnoxious, but let's be honest here. i watched the first day of IPL and you casted like you were selling starcraft 2 to a bunch of console gamers. i don't have an issue with that because you're bringing a bunch of people into esports but at the same time alienating those of us that really love it enough to stay up till 4 am watching live GSL - the "true fans" | ||
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space_yes
United States548 Posts
On April 22 2011 12:46 Duravi wrote: Well if this is the case they should explain themselves. Either way their production quality was obviously higher but to say you are volunteers and to actually have a paid component is misleading. Looking at some of the posts from the wp people here on TL it's unclear. They said they're not getting paid for this event.. | ||
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DarkRise
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
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leviathan400
United Kingdom393 Posts
I like how after NASL we got a "tips for NASL to improve" thread and after IGN we get a "omg its amazing" thread. My only suggestion: When on player info page (with the lines of info) please show what country they are from with a flag maybe, NASL missed this also and its great to see and people love to root for players from their own country etc. Also will we get a EU restream plz? | ||
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destian
141 Posts
I spent the 25 on NASL, but I haven't gotten what I expected out if it. I want NASL to do better, but the IPL seriously made a great impression tonight and I'm questioning the next NASL season pass. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On April 22 2011 12:47 Terranist wrote: it does seem a little obnoxious, but let's be honest here. i watched the first day of IPL and you casted like you were selling starcraft 2 to a bunch of console gamers. i don't have an issue with that because you're bringing a bunch of people into esports but at the same time alienating those of us that really love it enough to stay up till 4 am watching live GSL - the "true fans" Not really. Some of you are alienated, but not all. The noisy few will always come out in opposition of play-by-play casting, but it's the silent majority that are more important. Every caster alienates somebody, it's not worth worrying about and in this case, the IPL was not aimed squarely at TL's demographic anyway, yet still managed to attract and SUSTAIN a significant viewer count from them, so that alone is proof the concept is worth pursuing. The negativity really is rather depressing if ya take it too seriously and it seems some people are more interesting in tearing down the efforts of others all in the name of 'true fandom'. A true fan would celebrate anything that moves eSports forward, I would think. | ||
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Nerdslayer
Denmark1130 Posts
On April 22 2011 12:45 TotalBiscuit wrote: Or, it is also possible that your opinion isn't set-in-stone fact and people actually enjoy the casting and the games. I love these so called 'true fans' of eSports taking a dump on everything they possibly can while contributing nothing of their own to the scene they supposedly live and breath. Thank God they are only a tiny vocal minority or eSports would be in real trouble. Totoally agree with you TB. Esport is growing and just like boxing is not about hardcore fans anymore its about the casuals get them and esport is a succes and the onyl way to get them is getting some awesome shoutcasters and a really good production value do that right and the fans will tune in and then players will follow so gj to everyone at IGN | ||
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kevinmon
United States540 Posts
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BenKen
United States860 Posts
On April 22 2011 12:23 Defacer wrote: IPL's success is actually a perfect example of NOT listening to players. NASL has the bulk of their capital wrapped up in a robust prize pool; professional, experienced players as commentators; and a long, extensive format that gives all players a reasonably even playing field to ascend in the tournament. IPL has a reasonably decent graphic design (I can draw better portraits than that), and play-by-play casters that can make any game sound epic. They've pulled the wool over the 'hardcore' community's eyes. And I geniunely respect that. That's funny but it's true. Turns out giving the players exactly what they say that want isn't as entertaining as giving the masses (including me) what they actually enjoy. Would the Koreans rather have a 9-week long group stage instead of having to risk falling from S to A to oblivion? I'm guessing yeah, but it wouldn't be near as exciting as watching Boxer basically playing for his progaming career on korean TV (If he went to code B he might never get back on televised GSL). I agree with everything you said except maybe the wording of "pulled the wool" over us. IPL doesn't pretend to be for hardcore fans or try to fool anyone. It aims at being a good evening of entertainment, and in that respect it has done extremely well on day one. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14208 Posts
On April 22 2011 12:45 TotalBiscuit wrote: Or, it is also possible that your opinion isn't set-in-stone fact and people actually enjoy the casting and the games. I love these so called 'true fans' of eSports taking a dump on everything they possibly can while contributing nothing of their own to the scene they supposedly live and breath. Thank God they are only a tiny vocal minority or eSports would be in real trouble. my views arn't set in stone if you saw any of the threads I was completely jacked for IPL and I was loving the stream every moment until TB came on. "tiny minority"? did you even look at the viewer counts for tonight? NASL was 5k less then IPL at the start but at the end it was less then 1k away from each other. Even day9 said that he enjoyed his trolls and hes a god among us whats wrong with you? I'm saying my opinion you don't have to attack me because of that. | ||
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kethers
United States719 Posts
On April 22 2011 12:23 Defacer wrote: NASL has the bulk of their capital wrapped up in a robust prize pool This first IPL is a test run, I have confidence if it goes well, they have the financial means to match NASL's prize pool On April 22 2011 12:23 Defacer wrote: ...professional, experienced players as commentators I actually would classify TB and djWheat as being more professional and having more expereience in casting than Gretorp/Inc. Progamer does not equate to being good/professional casters On April 22 2011 12:23 Defacer wrote: ...and a long, extensive format that gives all players a reasonably even playing field to ascend in the tournament. If you listen to SotG, they cover this topic quite well. There are many matches right now being covered by IPL, NASL, GSL, and TSL, etc. None of the first few weeks of NASL matches will be very exciting because there isn't much on the line right now from a spectating experience. On April 22 2011 12:23 Defacer wrote: They've pulled the wool over the 'hardcore' community's eyes. And I geniunely respect that. IPL is trying to reach out to attract a wider audience for SC2 and Esports and so far, they're on the right track. What does being "hardcore" have to do with anything? | ||
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raybasto
United States151 Posts
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