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Ameba-AZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States79 Posts
April 22 2011 03:30 GMT
#361
IPL's first night was absolutely kick ass. God damn. Bravo bravo.
I sometimes do something other then play Starcraft... Rarely.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
April 22 2011 03:30 GMT
#362
On April 22 2011 12:28 sansalvador wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 12:07 Highways wrote:
I completely agree, unbelievable production values.

IPL and NASL need to merge because the NASL production is sooo terrible.

How can NASL improve the IPL?



good players good casters good matches?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
fire_brand
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1123 Posts
April 22 2011 03:31 GMT
#363
Yeah, I gotta give props to IGN. They really put together an impressive product. They've obviously been looking at the GSL model when they but this thing together. You can really see the strength and depth of their organization coming through in their product.

I can't wait to see what's next for them.
Random player, pixel enthusiast, crappy illustrator, offlane/support
Trebis
Profile Joined March 2010
United States182 Posts
April 22 2011 03:31 GMT
#364
After watching this and comparing it (c'mon, you can't avoid it) to the NASL, it's clear that the future of tournaments like these is 100% in the production value. Show a potential viewer NASL vs IPL, and they'll chose IPL every time, prize pool and player pool be damned.

Props to the WellPlayed.org guys for such a fantastic job.
Are your friends all noobs? Send them to SC2 Noob School! www.youtube.com/sc2noobschool
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
April 22 2011 03:31 GMT
#365
On April 22 2011 12:23 Defacer wrote:
IPL's success is actually a perfect example of NOT listening to players.

NASL has the bulk of their capital wrapped up in a robust prize pool; professional, experienced players as commentators; and a long, extensive format that gives all players a reasonably even playing field to ascend in the tournament.

IPL has a reasonably decent graphic design (I can draw better portraits than that), and play-by-play casters that can make any game sound epic.

They've pulled the wool over the 'hardcore' community's eyes. And I geniunely respect that.




exactly! i'm glad there are others that share the same sentiment as i do. IPL is a great addition to esports but besides the glitter, it lacks in every other aspect of the game that true fans really care about.
The Show of a Lifetime
HeeroMaki
Profile Joined August 2010
United States27 Posts
April 22 2011 03:32 GMT
#366
after watching IPL, I can't go back to NASL, it makes it look REALLY bad, even more so then how bad they were making themselves look. I want NASL to be so good but incontrol and gretorp together seem really bland and not very exciting maybe the could be with other casters just not good together they both seem like support casters and need a lead caster which neither seem to fill that role and IGNs casters were ALL amazing every match I was glued to my seat the production was very surpriseing even being IGN it was fantasic and unlike NASL .. I can't WAIT to see the next IPL game.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
April 22 2011 03:32 GMT
#367
Smart play by IPN here... They focused their resources (admittedly much more vast than the NASL's) in the right places. Instead of renting a studio, putting money into a live production with live casters they directed their resources to improved sound quality, slick and polished graphics and just coming away with a much more refined product.
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sansalvador
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria308 Posts
April 22 2011 03:33 GMT
#368
On April 22 2011 12:30 sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 12:28 sansalvador wrote:
On April 22 2011 12:07 Highways wrote:
I completely agree, unbelievable production values.

IPL and NASL need to merge because the NASL production is sooo terrible.

How can NASL improve the IPL?



good players good casters good matches?

players granted, but the rest is to debate. I really hope NASL did watch with pen and paper in hand what IGN delivered today and start going to improve their stuff. There needs to be competition, and right now IPL just walks over NASL.
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
April 22 2011 03:33 GMT
#369
On April 22 2011 12:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:
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On April 22 2011 12:25 PHILtheTANK wrote:
its nice having both leagues up at once so i can pick and choose which games i wannna watch

Also TB did good tonite, but i wish he wouldn't say "rained down" so much.


Yeah I have no idea what the fuck I was doing there, I've never even used that phrase before. I believe I consciously stopped myself from using it in the later casts and with good reason, it's not even appropriate in the context it was used.


all good man, really lookin forward to more, was a great first night!
Jieun <3
neo_sporin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States516 Posts
April 22 2011 03:33 GMT
#370
Let me start by saying I want NASL and IPL to succeed. I do not fear having to much SC2 and think that as these leagues become bigger and more numerous, pros will have to pick and choose the leagues they participate in and that will be GOOD for esports in my opinion. I think it would be GOOD if we had rivalries like huk/idra but didnt expect to see them both at every tournament with a name. I would much rather have players dedicated to a league and only meet up for the really big events to make them more World Series/Olympic esque, instead of seeing them play every other week.

I think IPL>NASL for the following reasons:
1) IPL felt super noob friendly. They EXPLAINED even basic things. Casters like HD and TB admit they are not going for the day9 level analysis. I am glad IPL went for the fun/exciting feel with CASTERS casting, and not players casting. (Yes I know there are exceptions in that Painuser will cast for IPL and diggity for NASL)

2) Production value blew NASL out of the water...not sure anyone can argue that.

3) The single caster instead of duo...now hear me out. I PREFER having a duo if the duo is a pair that have great interaction--tastosis/daywheat for example. But people like TB have made a name for themself as a solo caster and he can handle the job. Right now my issue with NASL is that when incontrol isnt there, we have gretorp jumping partners and not really getting into a groove with his partner, this will be fixed with time I know, but it goes with #2 in that the current state of casting I have to give the edge to IPL

3-a) I HAAAATE when NASL has 1 live caster and 1 skype/vent/teamspeak in and that it is very evident one person is not in the studio. The distant sound of the cocaster is a peev of mine. By having a solo caster on IPL they have avoided this.


That is all, I just hope as NASL and IPL go into future seasons we have players in one OR the other, and not a bunch of people in both.
kethers
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 03:36:39
April 22 2011 03:34 GMT
#371
I tuned in and first thing was..."Wait, WTF, 1080p!"

Awesome stream, zero lag, great graphics and production, very minimal downtime between each match

When the guy from IGN came on for SotG, he was hyping up the IPL a bit, but suffice to say, I think most of us can agree that they delivered.
kaplOw
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada27 Posts
April 22 2011 03:35 GMT
#372
On April 22 2011 12:29 PhiliBiRD wrote:
also whoever said IPL was done by volunteers and not paid people is wrong... the people who've been working on IPL were HIRED by IGN full time...

far from "volunteer", more like career.


I'm part of the WellPlayed production team and that's not true.
http://amisson.com/ - I design for WellPlayed Productions
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 03:37:22
April 22 2011 03:35 GMT
#373
NASL runs for three months, massively bigger prizepool, more good players, in depth analysis by experienced pros, post-game player interviews and thoughts... and somehow this just isn't good enough for some people in the community. makes me sad.


How can you not understand that NASL is paying people to do a job that people are doing for free with IPL and the paid people are performing not just a little bit worse, but alot? They have not fixed their sound issues after seven fucking episodes. They still have fps issues that anyone in production would recognize as unacceptable. These are not personal preference issues like casters. At some point you have to stop being an esports cheerleader and be realistic. SC2 community is hungry for a good quality broadcast we can follow regularly, up to this point NASL is not it, not even close but IPL is showing every sign that they can do it especially once they have a good player base.
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
April 22 2011 03:35 GMT
#374
so so good I am very impressed, great work IGN! And Total Biscuit has improved a ton, such an exciting commentator.
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
Googity
Profile Joined January 2011
United States127 Posts
April 22 2011 03:36 GMT
#375
Remember, this is the first season for BOTH leagues. Hopefully they will both learn from each other going forward, because if we could get IPL's production level with the experience level and players of NASL, we'll have two AMAZING products that would both be effective at brining the viewers in.
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
April 22 2011 03:36 GMT
#376
On April 22 2011 12:29 PhiliBiRD wrote:
also whoever said IPL was done by volunteers and not paid people is wrong... the people who've been working on IPL were HIRED by IGN full time...

far from "volunteer", more like career.

thats where you're wrong do some research
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
April 22 2011 03:36 GMT
#377
Unlike others, I like the sole commentator so you see different perspectives and it's different people to listen to
MLG Admin | Astro.631 NA
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 22 2011 03:36 GMT
#378
On April 22 2011 12:31 Terranist wrote:
true fans


I find this phrase really obnoxious. Am I alone in that?
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
April 22 2011 03:37 GMT
#379
On April 22 2011 12:28 sansalvador wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 12:07 Highways wrote:
I completely agree, unbelievable production values.

IPL and NASL need to merge because the NASL production is sooo terrible.

How can NASL improve the IPL?


WAY better players, i didn't catch all of the IPL but what i did catch was fun and all, amazing production value but.........

can you name one epic game? Idras games were idra killing


catz base in yo base? damn good so maybe

but anything else? select dominating like he should,. seems like it was blah from players with a lot of wow factor in production

like i said i didnt catch it all so i could be wrong, still a amazing tournament set up they have going on
No Artosis, you are robin
Weaponx3
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada232 Posts
April 22 2011 03:37 GMT
#380
I love the total at the end showing units lost and mining so good, casting was pretty awesome too, I like the single casting, but dueling cast is nice in between games but they went straight in to them so it didn't really matter.
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