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Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
April 15 2011 01:25 GMT
#21
i feel bad for mc, assuming he's as displeased as he sounds.

Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
Datum
Profile Joined February 2011
United States371 Posts
April 15 2011 01:25 GMT
#22
Personally, I love when a player is punished for playing greedily. For the same reasons, I don't have a problem with cheeses every once in a while. I mean, if you rely on that to win I won't respect you as a progamer, but MC has proved he is one of the best, if not the best, players in the world. Keeping people honest is no crime in my book.
Rokusha
Profile Joined January 2011
United States207 Posts
April 15 2011 01:25 GMT
#23
On April 15 2011 10:22 bibbaly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 10:21 iSometric wrote:
On April 15 2011 10:16 bibbaly wrote:
A win is a win no matter how dirty it seems to be. With money on the line, especially that much money, you have to exploit every weakness your opponent has.

How was his win dirty?


Read my post, don't assume anything, it makes an ass of u and me


So how was his win dirty?
weaknurse
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia320 Posts
April 15 2011 01:25 GMT
#24
The best way for MC to respond to the haters would be not to respond at all and keep winning. I think this was a wrong move here by him.
Clicker
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
April 15 2011 01:25 GMT
#25
Keep your head up, MC.
IMABUNNEH
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1062 Posts
April 15 2011 01:25 GMT
#26
Good rebuttel from MC - White-Ra never changes his opening, MC counters it, that's how pros win tournaments, and congrats to him for doing so.
"I think...now? No rival. Me world champion. Yeah. None rival." - oGsMC
dLKnighT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada735 Posts
April 15 2011 01:26 GMT
#27
A win's a win. White-Ra's wins however were way more exciting but a progamers gotta do what a progamers gotta do.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
April 15 2011 01:26 GMT
#28
I just hope that the ridiculous hate spewing doesn't turn off pros from entering foreign tournaments. It is great being passionate but this kind of thing can actually hurt the game. Great to see MC giving just as much as he gets. People need to realise their place.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14110 Posts
April 15 2011 01:26 GMT
#29
On April 15 2011 10:21 iSometric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 10:16 bibbaly wrote:
A win is a win no matter how dirty it seems to be. With money on the line, especially that much money, you have to exploit every weakness your opponent has.

How was his win dirty?


He cheesed the final game of the series when it was 2-2 bo5
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
April 15 2011 01:27 GMT
#30
On April 15 2011 10:23 Rekrul wrote:
I drank with MC a few days before he went to DH and I must say, his new GF is really fkin hot.

Considering that fact plus the fact that he wins a tournament every other week now, I don't think he really cares how people judge his playstyle.
why so 진지해?
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
April 15 2011 01:27 GMT
#31
I think first and foremost , cheesing is all fair and square in a competition because you do what you to do win. Thus there are people who supports MC saying it's ok that he cheesed in the last game and there are people flaming him for cheesing.

But MC's point here is that he was not cheesing at all. Cheesing implied something that is luck based. MC's proxy gate was something that was based on knowledge of previous games and white-ra's build. That he scouts after gate and he skips the first zealot. He used the first 4 games to reconfirm it and thus punished him in the 5th game.

So calling it cheese underestimates the amount of thought MC put into that decision. It wasn't like he decided to proxy gate and pray white-ra doesnt make the first zealot and scout early.. He KNEW white-ra wasn't going to scout and make the zealot
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
April 15 2011 01:27 GMT
#32
lol which foreigners are bming him? to do that in the last game was not stupid or cheesy...it was nerves of steel. not sure why they would bm him...
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
April 15 2011 01:28 GMT
#33
On April 15 2011 10:26 sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 10:21 iSometric wrote:
On April 15 2011 10:16 bibbaly wrote:
A win is a win no matter how dirty it seems to be. With money on the line, especially that much money, you have to exploit every weakness your opponent has.

How was his win dirty?


He cheesed the final game of the series when it was 2-2 bo5

It was a calculated build. It's the same as people cheesing Sjow when he didn't SCV scout.

<3 MC, 100% right.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
April 15 2011 01:28 GMT
#34
On April 15 2011 10:27 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 10:23 Rekrul wrote:
I drank with MC a few days before he went to DH and I must say, his new GF is really fkin hot.

Considering that fact plus the fact that he wins a tournament every other week now, I don't think he really cares how people judge his playstyle.


uhhh on behalf of tl can we get some pics? ^^
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
April 15 2011 01:29 GMT
#35
Don't see what fans are bitching about. What did MC do wrong other than win? :/
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
iYiYi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States489 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 01:32:20
April 15 2011 01:29 GMT
#36
MC exploited WhiteRa's greedy play perfectly. I noticed that Russian and Ukraine fans have really strong feelings when it comes to players like bratok and Whitea, and they get really angry over anything that doesn't go in their favor. MC played better and smarter, don't try to play down MC's achievement. Cheese in a tournament of this caliber is something that is done intelligently, he got outplayed.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
April 15 2011 01:30 GMT
#37
Not sure who was flaming MC but it was a great call to proxy in that game, and MC got to where he is (the best in SC2...for now) by taking those calculated risks and being decisive.

I love WhiteRa as much as the next person and wanted to see him win...but he threw the series away. MC had an epic comeback and deserved to win.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 01:33:19
April 15 2011 01:32 GMT
#38
Wow it is actually really cool to hear MC speak about the game; haven't heard him give some form of strategy comments ever. Well played MC.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 15 2011 10:27 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 10:23 Rekrul wrote:
I drank with MC a few days before he went to DH and I must say, his new GF is really fkin hot.

Considering that fact plus the fact that he wins a tournament every other week now, I don't think he really cares how people judge his playstyle.

Haha - that explanation sounds much better; i wish MC had said this though
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Moja
Profile Joined July 2010
United States313 Posts
April 15 2011 01:32 GMT
#39
Why would people BM him? It was clear from the series that he could get a BO win with that cheese...

I don't really get the BM about cheese in general?... People need to be less lazy about scouting early on imo.
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
April 15 2011 01:33 GMT
#40
On April 15 2011 10:25 Rokusha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 10:22 bibbaly wrote:
On April 15 2011 10:21 iSometric wrote:
On April 15 2011 10:16 bibbaly wrote:
A win is a win no matter how dirty it seems to be. With money on the line, especially that much money, you have to exploit every weakness your opponent has.

How was his win dirty?


Read my post, don't assume anything, it makes an ass of u and me


So how was his win dirty?

He did not say it was dirty, he said "how dirty it seems to be", there is a difference.
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