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ScrubS
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands436 Posts
May 01 2011 17:18 GMT
#1781
<3 the new background. It might be awesome to have several to change every (couple) games.
SolonTLG
Profile Joined November 2010
United States299 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 17:38:25
May 01 2011 17:37 GMT
#1782
On May 02 2011 02:18 ScrubS wrote:
<3 the new background. It might be awesome to have several to change every (couple) games.


I too like the new background!

However, I disagree that it should change every game or every few games. During the last EG Open, the background for the casters changed quite frequently and I found it to be very distracting. The background is supposed to be just that "background"! If the audience is noticing the background too much (either because it is too flashy or too boring), then that is a problem because it is detracting from the actual content of the show.
The Law Giver
In1t4themoney
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany77 Posts
May 01 2011 17:54 GMT
#1783
think the nasl needs some tough executive calls like replacing some heads behind and in front of the camera
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Nalesnik
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada51 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 18:29:35
May 01 2011 18:28 GMT
#1784
On May 02 2011 02:00 Hypemeup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 20:33 Thugtronik wrote:
didn't want to start another thread to ask this - but is this legit that husky is casting NASL games? thought NASL would be against that, and how did he get replays?

he cast the boxer vs sen series:


Does not matter if they are against it at all, its not their replay.

Douchebaggy of Husky if they are though, but I think they would have to give him the replay or he'd have to ask sen/boxer for it.


Didn't the NASL have the players sign some contracts? Which, one of the reason for the contracts (I would think) would be to have exclusive broadcasting rights of the players' replays.

But anyways, I think I remember the NASL saying that they'll be releasing some matches to some famous youtube casters (probably in order to promote the league), so I do believe Husky casting these games is "legit." Hopefully some NASL person can confirm or correct me, cause my only source is my fallible memory.
Toastmold
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada207 Posts
May 01 2011 18:49 GMT
#1785
+ Show Spoiler +

This comment... is by FAR the most annoying, selfish comment that is consistently made.

First - 30 minutes is not a long time. If you think 30 minutes is a long time you are either like 12 years old and have no concept of time, or just have no concept of time.

Second - If you don't want to watch the preshow, if you don't like the preshow, then you know it goes 30 minutes before the games start. Simply don't turn in!!!!!!!!!! That is like saying "DAMMIT, I hate how there is a 2 hour NFL pregame show on Sundays that I KNOW IS COMING and I hate it, but I still tune in at 11AM even though I know games start at 1PM." Did you ever think some people out there enjoy the 30 minute pregame? Simply put, if you don't like the PRE-show, don't watch it. Just pretend in your mind the NASL starts 30 minutes after it says it starts. Not really a big deal. That is why it is called the Pre Show, not the Show.

Third - The pregame show needs to stay and continue to improve because it is what other sports would do. It opens up a world of possibilities they can continue to add during that 30 minutes, interviews, bracket analysis... etc. What people don't get is the preshow right now is very dull because it is early in the season. But once we get to the end the preshow is going to be pretty cool because it will be used often to explain all the different scenarios that are existing. Like "This week Player A has to beat Player B, and hope that Player C losses to have any chance at taking 2nd place going forward." Shit like that is going to be cool to hear about during the preshow. Also if there are any tie breaker scenarios that is a good time to clearly explain them. Thing is, once you remove that 30 minutes or shorten it, if they ever need to go back and add it everyone will just complain. For now, you know 30 minutes before there is talking and that needs to be kept consistent. You can't just make it a long preshow one night and 5 minutes the next.

Quit being so closed minded about something other people might like, and something that you can easily just avoid watching if you don't like it.


These are opinions we are sharing in to help them improve. If they did their entire cast in 'furry' outfits I'm sure a few people would really enjoy it, however the vast majority would not be too impressed so it might be something they would think about changing.

I think in general people are not opposed to the casters fleshing out the upcoming matches, but they find that bunching it all up at the start does not provide for the best viewing experience. Another point that I will just add is that I am sure a lot of viewers tune in and out halfway through the broadcast. These people miss out on some of the 'flavour' that NASL is trying to generate.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 01 2011 18:51 GMT
#1786
Yes, there will be one match per week casted and released on youtube!
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
artanis2
Profile Joined April 2010
United States732 Posts
May 01 2011 19:19 GMT
#1787
Gretorp and Incontrol shouldn't call each other stupid live on the stream.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 01 2011 19:41 GMT
#1788
we are joking around

In fact we even joke about joking around about calling each other dumb

How the hell people cannot detect this bothers me
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 01 2011 19:45 GMT
#1789
On May 01 2011 19:30 eloist wrote:
What's the incentive for players that go 0-4 or 0-5 in their first games to play well and keep trying? Will there be up and down matches or some other form of relegation?


Top 2 go to final 16

The next 2 go into a playoff where another 5 of those 10 go to the finals

Can't remember how it is done but the bottom chunk of each group + some more are eliminated from the NASL and have to qualify like everyone else in season 2.
artanis2
Profile Joined April 2010
United States732 Posts
May 01 2011 19:46 GMT
#1790
I can see that, I just don't like it, that's all.
NoahNickels
Profile Joined March 2011
United States102 Posts
May 01 2011 19:56 GMT
#1791
On May 02 2011 04:41 iNcontroL wrote:
we are joking around

In fact we even joke about joking around about calling each other dumb

How the hell people cannot detect this bothers me


I can answer this.

When Tastosis rib each other we enjoy it and we laugh because we know they heart each other big time.

When you guys do it, the jokes come off as cold and mean because we can't tell if you actually like each other. I can't detect the love, you seem like business professionals not true friends. There is no chemistry. The audience loves when broadcasters of any sport give each other a hard time but only and ONLY when we know deep down really friends.
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 01 2011 20:06 GMT
#1792
please don't pretend to be able to speak for everyone...

The people that don't get our joking around are in the vast minority. And it irks me because the vast majority "get it" and are having fun along side us. So in a "tips" threads when those few that don't get it try and blow up this "issue" and make it bigger than it is I get a bit rattled... I feel an urgency in helping you guys find out what is actually happening.
Griffith`
Profile Joined September 2010
714 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 20:10:26
May 01 2011 20:06 GMT
#1793
Should do more behind the scenes episodes. There always seems to be an air of uncomfortableness/awkwardness. Also try smiling and laughing more.
griffith.583 (NA)
artanis2
Profile Joined April 2010
United States732 Posts
May 01 2011 20:07 GMT
#1794
I'd like to point out that as far as I've seen no other casters call each other stupid, and generally sports commentators on tv don't call each other stupid either, even if they are good friends... just sayin'.
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
May 01 2011 20:11 GMT
#1795
I still want to see more personality from the casters, damnit! It seems like you two are still holding back some.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 01 2011 20:12 GMT
#1796
On May 02 2011 05:07 artanis2 wrote:
I'd like to point out that as far as I've seen no other casters call each other stupid, and generally sports commentators on tv don't call each other stupid either, even if they are good friends... just sayin'.


We aren't every other caster nor are we on television casters.

Look.. we are essentially having an argument about you not liking our humor and me trying to defend that. I won't. It's just sad that you can't get away from "tastosis never did that" as if that is some reason for us to do anything.
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 20:17:47
May 01 2011 20:15 GMT
#1797
On May 02 2011 02:18 ScrubS wrote:
<3 the new background. It might be awesome to have several to change every (couple) games.



new background is definitely Awesome !!!!!\



and obviously Gretorp and Incontrol are joking with each other ..
NoahNickels
Profile Joined March 2011
United States102 Posts
May 01 2011 20:26 GMT
#1798
On May 02 2011 05:06 iNcontroL wrote:
please don't pretend to be able to speak for everyone...

The people that don't get our joking around are in the vast minority. And it irks me because the vast majority "get it" and are having fun along side us. So in a "tips" threads when those few that don't get it try and blow up this "issue" and make it bigger than it is I get a bit rattled... I feel an urgency in helping you guys find out what is actually happening.


You probably find mostly ego-strokers on TL, but man, you guys could use some help. People may "get it" but guess what, that doesn't make it good. I "get it" but I also don't think it comes across like you think it does, man. Geez.

And i honestly think the majority of NASL viewers get the feeling you two don't go out for drinks after the game... NOT that you DON'T but it doesn't appear that way. Nor should you two need to be chums, BUT it it is a requirement if you are going to berate each other during casts.

You can say, say, say it all you want, what matters is how it APPEARS. It might just be your personality, whatever. Anyway, I am not saying you guys are bad casters. And I know its ten times harder than it looks to get out there and do that 4-5 times a week. Even more difficult when you can't stop yourself from coming on here and reading the feedback. But dood, seriously, let me have my opinion and if i think i speak for a majority, so be it. It's still only my opinion.

Read the bad reviews once, the good one’s twice, and put them all away and never look at them again.
"One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high-powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
artanis2
Profile Joined April 2010
United States732 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 20:29:18
May 01 2011 20:26 GMT
#1799
Well shouldn't you be treating it like you're on tv? It is a public event that anyone in the world can tune into. As viewership increases these new people aren't going to know about you or Gretorp or your personal relationship.

In my mind, the higher regard you hold someone, the less likely you are to joke around about how dumb you think they are. When I see that, I feel like you guys aren't actually very close at all and it definitely distracts from the game which should be the main focus.

It just seems to me that joking around in that manner is more suited to an off the cuff sort of show like SOTG where the purpose is to talk to each other and (somtimes) bash each others opinions.

edit: I should add, that I do enjoy NASL and I don't think you guys are bad at what you do, I am just pointing out one thing that I feel detracts from the overall quality.
Punti
Profile Joined August 2010
99 Posts
May 01 2011 20:28 GMT
#1800
Pls stop the L-O-L. It just sounds childish und unprofesionell. Also pls don't freak out about every battle.
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