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ilmman
Profile Joined September 2010
364 Posts
May 18 2011 02:14 GMT
#2141
Another thing that you could do to improve. Have a ladder for each group. Like in the world cup. Display wins and stats... I think for a tournament that is not a knockout, displaying a ladder is needed.
wakefield
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom114 Posts
May 18 2011 17:26 GMT
#2142
[image loading]

i thought one of the reasons of this league to be started was to 'promote esports'? well this obviously contradicts that completely, if there is videos on youtube surely this will bring in more viewers from outside sources and who knows, they may make more money from subscriptions from small videos like these? copyrighting 1 minute long videos such as this is exactly something vevo would do and look how hated they are..
7sk
Profile Joined August 2010
United States55 Posts
May 19 2011 00:35 GMT
#2143
I would like to see a cast similar to ESPN's Sportcenter on the NASL site. They could wrap up the 10-15 games played each day, show highlights, interviews, provide hype for the next matches, bring on prominent guests from the scene, and even have a top 10 segment at the end.
There is just too much content for a casual viewer to keep up with and I feel that I'm missing out. Just like I can't always watch the Yankees play but I still want to see Rodriguez's home runs or Cybathia's strike outs - I can watch the highlights.
The NASL would greatly benefit from a highlight show.
Zormaan
Profile Joined December 2010
United States13 Posts
May 19 2011 02:13 GMT
#2144
I know it's a big thing to ask but I would like to be able to watch all the games of a series in the vod's
TheBigBear
Profile Joined November 2010
United States46 Posts
May 19 2011 03:11 GMT
#2145
Don't get me wrong here. I have no problem with Gretorp as a person. He seems like an intelligent guy, and I think his heart's in the right place, but he's terrible at casting. I'm sorry to be so blunt about it, but it's the truth. He has a vocabulary that's too broad for his own good. He constantly uses incorrect words and is very inconsistent with his in-game analysis. He constantly repeats the same word in different situations and many times it simply doesn't make sense. He also gets very excited and starts yelling at points that really aren't worthy of getting excited about.

Just now, for example. It's the first game of Sheth vs Moon. Sheth is fungaling Moon's Roaches while also attacking with his own Roaches. Half-way through saying that Moon is going to lose, he changes his mind, saying something along the lines of "Sheth's Roaches are just too much and it looks like Moon is going to........ not lose." He did the same thing in the TLO game. It just isn't professional and I'm not the only one that thinks so.

I'm not saying "Fire Gretorp." I'd just like to see him work on these things.

Also, before I get hated on for this in the form of "Who are you?! What do you know about casting and professionalism?! RABBLERABBLERABBLE!" I've been watching Baseball, Football, Hockey, and Basketball for the better part of 20 years. I know what professional production looks and sounds like, and I'm sure NASL is striving for professionalism.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2011 03:15 GMT
#2146
On May 19 2011 02:26 wakefield wrote:
[image loading]

i thought one of the reasons of this league to be started was to 'promote esports'? well this obviously contradicts that completely, if there is videos on youtube surely this will bring in more viewers from outside sources and who knows, they may make more money from subscriptions from small videos like these? copyrighting 1 minute long videos such as this is exactly something vevo would do and look how hated they are..

yeah blocking videos on youtube makes no sense, was it just a hype vid? or something short? or an interview?
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
May 19 2011 03:17 GMT
#2147
I don't know if this will get read since there's over 100 pages of feedback, but I'd personally change the playoff format. Right now it's 3vs6 and 4vs5, and I'd like to see 5vs6, winner vs 4, winner vs 3 instead, much like the Korean proleague does it.

The reason for this is that 6th place players will often have a losing record, so it doesn't make sense to me that they get the same chance to get into the top 16 as someone who might have barely missed out on 2nd place.
aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
May 19 2011 03:28 GMT
#2148
On May 19 2011 12:17 jalstar wrote:
I don't know if this will get read since there's over 100 pages of feedback, but I'd personally change the playoff format. Right now it's 3vs6 and 4vs5, and I'd like to see 5vs6, winner vs 4, winner vs 3 instead, much like the Korean proleague does it.

The reason for this is that 6th place players will often have a losing record, so it doesn't make sense to me that they get the same chance to get into the top 16 as someone who might have barely missed out on 2nd place.


I totally agree with this. It's not as much about fairness as just incentive-creating. It makes the division rankings matter a lot more.
AKspartan
Profile Joined January 2011
United States126 Posts
May 19 2011 03:46 GMT
#2149
Going subscribers only chat cuts into your viewer count. Only slightly, but be aware of it. I think it's a bad decision.

Gretorp, try thinking a few words ahead and avoid trying to be wordy. Honestly, you guys would do well to talk a bit less.
blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
May 19 2011 18:39 GMT
#2150
Noticed that NASL doesn't use ingame music + very low sound. You can hear the echo from the room in the background etc, I would love to get the ingame music + more sound in general.. except commentators ofc.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 19 2011 18:47 GMT
#2151
On May 18 2011 11:14 ilmman wrote:
Another thing that you could do to improve. Have a ladder for each group. Like in the world cup. Display wins and stats... I think for a tournament that is not a knockout, displaying a ladder is needed.

That's exactly what I proposed some days ago They should assume in their cast that no one will go to their website, and give ladders, stats, racial winrates, etc.
Bread779
Profile Joined October 2010
United States27 Posts
May 20 2011 02:51 GMT
#2152
I'm not sure how much control you guys have over the advertisements that play (and I can't believe that I'm even suggesting this), but having more "gamer" centered advertisements would probably be a lot more beneficial to both you and the advertiser. I believe advertisements for a game like L.A Noire that I see elsewhere or any kind of computer gear will be more beneficial compared to an ad for a cruise.

Keep up the good work!
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
May 20 2011 05:46 GMT
#2153
Tip to improve NASL:

- TotalBiscuit casting together with InControl
- InControl must do his TotalBiscuit impression
- Both must engage on an epic struggle and purposely correct each other when unnecessary
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
May 20 2011 05:52 GMT
#2154
On May 20 2011 14:46 VIB wrote:
Tip to improve NASL:

- TotalBiscuit casting together with InControl
- InControl must do his TotalBiscuit impression
- Both must engage on an epic struggle and purposely correct each other when unnecessary


:D

Oh man I think they would actually be a very interesting duo, especially if they just get along. Geoff has been polite when mentioning TB recently too so who knows! Let me dream.
DTrain
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia64 Posts
May 20 2011 06:19 GMT
#2155
I would appreciate if there were high and low quality VODs.

My internet is not fast enough for the VODs on Justin TV, and there is no option to choose a lower quality one. It's possible to choose the quality when watching on the live stream, but not on the VODs
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
May 20 2011 07:10 GMT
#2156
On May 20 2011 15:19 DTrain wrote:
I would appreciate if there were high and low quality VODs.

My internet is not fast enough for the VODs on Justin TV, and there is no option to choose a lower quality one. It's possible to choose the quality when watching on the live stream, but not on the VODs

On every justin stream you can lower the resolution by clicking the icon at lower right. Next to the full screen icon, there should be a text saying "best" or something. You click that, and instead of best you choose a lower quality. I think 240p is the lowest. But you can choose between like 4 or 5 different levels.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Vigeous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States16 Posts
May 20 2011 18:24 GMT
#2157
This is just another whiny post to go with the others, I just need to get it off my chest.

I want to like NASL. I know they are trying. Gretorp and InControl are terrible casters! That's just my opinion right? I could point out specific reasons, but no! I am whining right now!

I can't stand them! I tend to only listen when there is a guest caster to dilute the awfulness.

QQ!
*Whinge*
Someone find some real god damned casters!
QQ!
If you say there is no way, then you have no will.
clownzim
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil267 Posts
May 20 2011 18:25 GMT
#2158
web cam`s interviews with winners just awesome

moman yesterday was hilarious
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
fatkobra
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1 Post
May 20 2011 19:16 GMT
#2159
Quick suggestion, when you put the screen before the match of " Player A vs Player B" put their current record somethere in the same screen, this way is easier to keep track of their record on the spot without having to dig it up yourself
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
May 20 2011 19:18 GMT
#2160
After one player gg's they should leave a few seconds to let the commentators go 'OH SHI GG" before they suddenly blast music :D
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