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IdrA withdrawing from GSL March, returns to US - Page 3

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jonathan1
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
February 16 2011 06:48 GMT
#41
Junkka gets moved into Code S!!!!!!
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
February 16 2011 06:48 GMT
#42
On February 16 2011 15:33 G3nXsiS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 15:31 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
On February 16 2011 15:28 G3nXsiS wrote:
What the fuck is this?! Freaking GSL is the place to be! American tournaments don't pay shit! OMFG. If EG was involved in this then they are just complete shit!


Strictly prize money speaking there is less money to be had in Korea unless you can win the GSL. 1k+ tournaments happening constantly in NA. Local lan in March with 2k for first prize... there is a LOT of money amongst more tournaments in NA/EU than Korea at the moment. A good player like Idra can make more money by taking advantage of these if he's unable to take top in GSL.



Subtract that money from travel fees and living course and you get way way less. Not to mention, the experience of having pros around you all the time to discuss the game with!

The pros that you don't share a common language with?
I also assume he's moving to Cali, so Incontrol/Gretorp/that crew will be there to talk with.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44312 Posts
February 16 2011 06:48 GMT
#43
Well I guess it's for the best

Best of luck to him
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
February 16 2011 06:49 GMT
#44
The comeback of the Grackken
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
February 16 2011 06:51 GMT
#45
Aww thats a shame but to be fair hes been there for a very long time . I hope to see him return one day .
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
February 16 2011 06:54 GMT
#46
On February 16 2011 15:36 cyprin wrote:
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On February 16 2011 15:34 Meteora.GB wrote:
So... what happens to IdrA's Code S spot now?



Who cares about IdrA's Code S spot--WTF is going to happen with IMBALANCED?
Poor Artosis :[


Artosis was my first thought as well. Poor guy D: He's going to be lonely now.

It seems like very few people are going to be heading to korea now for SC2 if even IdrA is coming back for "NASL". I think the only people left will be the current Liquid guys and a few foreigners randomly that just want to travel. And who knows how long they will stay. Like others have said, the opportunities to make real money in korea are pretty low and if a big league is going to be made in NA it's a deal breaker I think.

Otherwise, not many top pros went to the GOM team house and it's looking like it's only going to go downhill. GSL is also the only real big tournament in Korea so it's a shame.

I'm a little skeptic with how the SC2 scene will evolve from here. It's not huge in korea yet and now we are essentially going to be splitting the pro world even more with less foreigners risking the GSL if there are better opportunities in NA + more small tournaments and show matches. Guys like the Liquid guys and TorcH have to be pretty anxious to see how everything will turn out because they invested a lot to be part of the korean scene and hoping the foreigner scene would develop there as well.

Still, I'm going to keep watch the GSL because Artosis + Tasteless are the best casters. Whatever happens in NA, they won't be on top until they get those two IMO (and I assume they are under contract for a while). That's not a knock on other casters, it's just how fun it is to listen to Tastosis.

On the other hand, whatever the project is could also bomb (although from the information we got they are also associated with some top poker pros who I imagine don't mind burning a bit of cash to try it).


Well, it might seem like an excessive reaction to this news but IdrA moving is a large piece of the puzzle for me. Eager to see what happens in the next few days.
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sOvrn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States678 Posts
February 16 2011 06:54 GMT
#47
Oh noes. I'm kind of sad, but if this seems to be the best decision then I hope it all goes well. IdrA fighting!!!
My favorites: Terran - Maru // Protoss - SoS // Zerg - soO ~~~ fighting!
Loddigesia
Profile Joined April 2010
247 Posts
February 16 2011 06:54 GMT
#48
I am actually crying right now
aka gorfou
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
February 16 2011 06:55 GMT
#49
Wow... maybe this is more expected to everyone else here who has been stalking incontrol more than I have but this is pretty shocking to me, as I was looking forward to seeing IdrA making a run at the GSL again starting in just a few days.

Part of me thinks it is in his best interest, if the announcement is of the magnitude people are starting to expect. But... no one can argue that the top tier of players in the world is the Code S of GSL. I can't help but think that in some sense IdrA is giving up at being the best in the world, settling for a tournament with lesser players. I'm sure he'll be happier in the US and there isn't anything you can say against that, but it does seem like the end of a dream to me in some ways.
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
February 16 2011 06:57 GMT
#50
Question -> Say IdrA stays in US for 6 months, but eventually wants to go back to korea. He will have "points", right? That will allow him to get back to code S easier? Or will he just have to go through the up and down matches in code A?
feaynnewedd
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany41 Posts
February 16 2011 06:57 GMT
#51
Well, I think this proves it - if a player like Idra (after TLO, but I think he got kinda homesick) withdraws, it means that the future of esports lies maybe not in the West only, but in international events. Foreigners will always struggle because the environment is afaik so different at the GSL than at their home events. Maybe we will see even more Koreans in tournaments like IEM, too, and everything will balance? Otherwise, who knows. The future remains a mystery =)
Dinotoss hwaiting!
uSnAmplified
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1029 Posts
February 16 2011 06:58 GMT
#52
Sad top US zerg will no longer be representing us, but definitely points towards something big going on in NA.
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
February 16 2011 06:59 GMT
#53
On February 16 2011 15:57 Fa1nT wrote:
Question -> Say IdrA stays in US for 6 months, but eventually wants to go back to korea. He will have "points", right? That will allow him to get back to code S easier? Or will he just have to go through the up and down matches in code A?


he will have to go through code A to qualify for the up and down matches
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
February 16 2011 06:59 GMT
#54
On February 16 2011 15:57 feaynnewedd wrote:
Well, I think this proves it - if a player like Idra (after TLO, but I think he got kinda homesick) withdraws, it means that the future of esports lies maybe not in the West only, but in international events. Foreigners will always struggle because the environment is afaik so different at the GSL than at their home events. Maybe we will see even more Koreans in tournaments like IEM, too, and everything will balance? Otherwise, who knows. The future remains a mystery =)


Think about it like this

Jinro and IdrA have been in korea a few months now, yet they have made less money than the top european players who go to multiple 1-10k prize pool tourneys.

The GSL prize pool is so top heavy, that unless you make top 4 every single time, there is a good chance you are not making very much money..

Not only that, but this year, theres MORE giant tourneys over here that last year.
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
February 16 2011 07:01 GMT
#55
On February 16 2011 15:39 neo_sporin wrote:
My question about the decision is with GSL starting next week...are there really any tournaments in the next 2-3 weeks that are worthy of leaving GSL for? I mean, wouldn't it in theory be more financially sound to finish this GSL, win some money, THEN return to NA instead of waiting another month for GSL 5?


I have the same question.

Btw, if Idra withdraw from GSL this month(i.e. GSL5), theoretically, he will be code A in GSL 6. And if he doesn't show up again in GSL6 he will be completely out of GSL.
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 07:04:41
February 16 2011 07:03 GMT
#56
so.... who's filling in idra's spot then?

EDIT: nvm, found out from looking on GOM's news...

"Players in Code S Group B who are scheduled to play Greg will get automatic wins."
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Deyster
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Jordan579 Posts
February 16 2011 07:03 GMT
#57
Bummer. I was hoping for something like all foreigners in code A compete against each other for IdrA's spot in code S.
Watch the minimap.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 07:04:18
February 16 2011 07:03 GMT
#58
On February 16 2011 16:01 bearhug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 15:39 neo_sporin wrote:
My question about the decision is with GSL starting next week...are there really any tournaments in the next 2-3 weeks that are worthy of leaving GSL for? I mean, wouldn't it in theory be more financially sound to finish this GSL, win some money, THEN return to NA instead of waiting another month for GSL 5?


I have the same question.

Btw, if Idra withdraw from GSL this month(i.e. GSL5), theoretically, he will be code A in GSL 6. And if he doesn't show up again in GSL6 he will be completely out of GSL.


GSL has 4 reserved slots in Code A for foreigners

if Idra ever decides to come back to Korea for GSL, he is very likely going to be given one of those slots. it doesn't matter what GSL number it is as long as Idra is still a top foreigner.

E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
zor.au
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia270 Posts
February 16 2011 07:04 GMT
#59
I guess there is so much strong competition in Korea, he has a bigger chance in the US.

I still think there is something not said here, whether its something to be announced shortly (by EG) or Idra in Korea with a Visa issue or something.
wow
No_Roo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States905 Posts
February 16 2011 07:05 GMT
#60
What's going to happen to all the Grack troll names during the interviews? This is the end of an era...
(US) NoRoo.fighting
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