I am a high masters level Terran player. As of early September 2011, ~1100 Master. Trying hard to get into Grandmaster this season! (And indeed, I get matched with a fair amount of Grandmasters.)
My philosophy behind replay packs is to just add all the games that are the "better" games. Doesn't matter whether I win or lose - if it was a well played game from both players, then that's fine with me. I'm aiming to include the "Top 10% of games" in these packs, and will aim to include approximately 20 of the best month's games in each month's pack.
August 2011 Replay Pack: 19 Games. A high amount of "macro / long" games, with 17/19 games going over 20 minutes. Includes one "epic" 2 Hour TvZ game. 2 games against the infamous Destiny. 10 Wins, 9 Losses.
I enjoy watching him play and his commentary on what he's thinking during the fights. His insight is pretty good into why he's doing something and what he can do to fix it.
That being said I really wish you'd improve your macro, it pains me to watch how high your money gets sometimes (constructive criticisim is all <3) when you're so far behind on army.
Watched a couple of the replays, liked em even as a zerg player, though I must ask, seemed as you have been keen on using certain strats in certain matchup. Not a lot of variety BUT still an awesome pack and hoping you release more in the future !
Thanks so much man! I'm trying to learn to play terran -- know thine enemy and all that-- and I bet these replays will help me a bunch. I watch your stream and especially like your TvT play, so I'm really excited about this.
Love this, was wondering if you'd ever release some of the replays i see you save on the stream, can't wait to see some of the exact timings the TvP thor opening, i always seem to fail horribly with it >.< Ever since i started watching your stream I started losing to zerg.. you're a bad influence in that way, better come up with somethign fast!! :-) <3
On February 16 2011 12:48 flexy wrote: which ones show your good strat vs protoss? I watched two of them and both got ran over by the protoss colossus army ball. am I missing something?
Look for the later ones. He gets a really cool thor timing, where if the Toss expands the toss gets crushed by a scv repair/thor/250mm/marine "all-in". It almost always works. If the toss doesn't expand then Trump builds a CC in his base and waits for the toss to attack him. He defends the toss all-in and can quickly outmacro the toss.
On February 16 2011 12:48 flexy wrote: which ones show your good strat vs protoss? I watched two of them and both got ran over by the protoss colossus army ball. am I missing something?
Look for the later ones. He gets a really cool thor timing, where if the Toss expands the toss gets crushed by a scv repair/thor/250mm/marine "all-in". It almost always works. If the toss doesn't expand then Trump builds a CC in his base and waits for the toss to attack him. He defends the toss all-in and can quickly outmacro the toss.
That's quite a dull strat though, it's painful to see a "core strategy" being an allin.
Love your stream though Trump, you seem so confident and relaxed. Your strats tend to be just somewhat gimmicky(TvZ and TvP, TvT is just very greedy ), which is sad, since you seem to have decent enough macro(ok well you need to fix the supply capping ) and micro which could get you places if you relied on it more. Will download and watch the replays when I get home.
On February 16 2011 12:48 flexy wrote: which ones show your good strat vs protoss? I watched two of them and both got ran over by the protoss colossus army ball. am I missing something?
Look for the later ones. He gets a really cool thor timing, where if the Toss expands the toss gets crushed by a scv repair/thor/250mm/marine "all-in". It almost always works. If the toss doesn't expand then Trump builds a CC in his base and waits for the toss to attack him. He defends the toss all-in and can quickly outmacro the toss.
That's quite a dull strat though, it's painful to see a "core strategy" being an allin.
Love your stream though Trump, you seem so confident and relaxed. Your strats tend to be just somewhat gimmicky(TvZ and TvP, TvT is just very greedy ), which is sad, since you seem to have decent enough macro(ok well you need to fix the supply capping ) and micro which could get you places if you relied on it more. Will download and watch the replays when I get home.
The TvP strat is actually quite solid. It punishes Protoss for fast expanding which is what most Protoss players do because they think they are invincible with just a few gateway units and an immortal. The strat is capable of transitioning into a strong mid game. Thors can be countered by colossi, but vikings and banshees are surprisingly good at making the strat workable as long as it doesn't go to templar tech, which demolish Thor support units, banshees, and vikings, making it possible for colossi to demolish thors.
I think the best aspect that Trump's stream demonstrates is the power of 250 mm strike cannon. It turns out that it is very hard to break a Terran thor army with the typical mix of immortal and gateway units mid-game, because 2 fact thors match 1 robo chrono'd immortal production and as long as Terran has as many thors as immortals or more thors than immortals the immortals will be demolished by 250 mm. This requires a switch to colossi and/or void rays and/or mass robo play, though none of these are ideal compositions against Terran mech given the ease by which Terran can add vikings and/or banshees. This is the reason this TvP strategy is more successful than most Protoss are willing to admit.
However, there are definite ways to exploit the immobility (though Protoss is usually quite immobile as well) and late-game Protoss is still stronger due to chargelots, high templars, and colossi. Blink stalkers also do surprisingly well.
On February 16 2011 12:48 flexy wrote: which ones show your good strat vs protoss? I watched two of them and both got ran over by the protoss colossus army ball. am I missing something?
Look for the later ones. He gets a really cool thor timing, where if the Toss expands the toss gets crushed by a scv repair/thor/250mm/marine "all-in". It almost always works. If the toss doesn't expand then Trump builds a CC in his base and waits for the toss to attack him. He defends the toss all-in and can quickly outmacro the toss.
That's quite a dull strat though, it's painful to see a "core strategy" being an allin.
Love your stream though Trump, you seem so confident and relaxed. Your strats tend to be just somewhat gimmicky(TvZ and TvP, TvT is just very greedy ), which is sad, since you seem to have decent enough macro(ok well you need to fix the supply capping ) and micro which could get you places if you relied on it more. Will download and watch the replays when I get home.
A number of people have posted making generalizations about Trump's playstyle. As a regular watcher of his stream, I have to say, I have seen Trump incorporate more experimentation and variation into his BOs than any other streamer I have watched.
While Trump might be experimenting with a "gimmicky" phase right now, and exploring all-ins, if we go back a month, Trump was claiming that he didn't even know how to do an all-in. He consciously stated that he wanted to develop some all-ins to compliment his general macro-style. If anything, Trump is always struggling to move away from the gimmick (until he gets frustrated-remember "poking out the eye" of the protoss?).
TL DR Please don't generalize about someone's playstyle based on a small amount of evidence or a handful of game that they are doing recently. With Trump, it's all about the journey and the experiment. Trump is not afraid to lose. And yes, I consider him the most solid TvT player I've ever watched precisely because he is so methodical. This month, he has been trying out some greedy stuff. I'm sure he'll back back to dominating in the near future.
Thanks for the high quality entertainment, Trump. I always look forward to your stream.
I love watching Trump's stream but I have to admit he played a lot better before he started doing the wow guide thingy. He had this mass nuke lategame strats or solid builds but seeing TvP Thor+Marine allin is just.. I dont know
Big fan of the stream, excellent music and lots of commentary (which is the single most important thing about a good streamer, imo).
Quite surprised at the low win ratio v Zerg, doesn't feel that bad when I'm watching. But I'm sure you'll come up with something. Keep reaching for that rainbow!
On February 21 2011 00:10 EmilA wrote: The TvP strategy is really neat. How does it fare against 3 gate robo pushes or 3 gate stargate?
Due to the presence of Thors, defense is quite easy against all-ins (excuse me...one base aggression) - because your entire base is an army of repairers. They can't break your Thor.
If they one base aggress you, you can build your expansion in-base and out-macro them.
Hey, Trump, I really like your TvP style, so I've started using it as well.
However, I can't think of a good followup to quick DTs into an expansion..... I've watched several of the replays, but I did not see any where you faced quick DTs..... Waiting for a raven puts me behind badly in economy, and attacking too quick will make me run out of energy on my OC before I can kill the dts.....
How do you deal with that? Do you abandon your plan?
On February 21 2011 12:56 Impervious wrote: Hey, Trump, I really like your TvP style, so I've started using it as well.
However, I can't think of a good followup to quick DTs into an expansion..... I've watched several of the replays, but I did not see any where you faced quick DTs..... Waiting for a raven puts me behind badly in economy, and attacking too quick will make me run out of energy on my OC before I can kill the dts.....
How do you deal with that? Do you abandon your plan?
if I suspect DT (a combination of early scv scout seeing 2x fast gas and hellion scout seeing something suspicious) I'll go for same opening but add a starport and get raven instead of 250mm cannon.
Trump your stream is amazing! Quality of stream, music and commentary is great and also the way you experiment and challenge assumptions. Seeing you try and fail/succeed has really improved my understanding of the game.
Watching anxiously for you to solve the current zerg frustration!
On February 21 2011 23:41 REM.ca wrote: By far my favorite stream. Always looking out for your name on the "Live user streams" list. Often dissapointed to not see you there.
How much do I need to pay you to totally change your routine and stream whenever I'm available to watch?
That is easy REM, you can watch the VODs on Trump's justin.tv page (Trumpsc) whenever you want to (unless you manage to see all of Trump live)
Thinking about getting back into laddering (60 games played, with the last one 6 weeks ago :[); I'm going to power through these, take mad notes, and own some Platinum scrubs.
Definitely gonna check this out. Funny enough, watching Trump play TvZ and fail time and time again has helped me most against the matchup. I know very well how scary zerg can be and have a much better understanding of their strengths and how to avoid confronting it after so many losses. It's currently my best and most nerve-wracking matchup at the moment.
On February 21 2011 14:02 Impervious wrote: Do you wait for the Raven to get 100 energy for a PDD before engaging then? Or does the attack come too late in that case?
The Raven is just there to be able to see DT. I move out as soon as I have a Raven.
In other news, Jinro v Idra may give me some additional ideas on how to take down the oh-so-terrible zerg.
In other other news, I'll be editing this thread to just be the trump replay compendium and will have a new set out Feb. 15-28 on the 28th.
Replay Pack from Feb. 15 - 28 of 52 replays out of 166 games. Expect the next replay pack to be many many less and actually be the 'best of the best' replays instead of me saving games whenever I immediately think "oh hey, this was pretty good" right after each game. :p
Stats:
60 TvP games, 54 TvZ games, and 51 TvT games. Again, pretty balanced. My record was 84-81.
TvP: 63% Win TvZ: 35% Win TvT: 52% Win
I continued the Thor opening against Protoss. Despite many repeat games against players, and in fact many players hard countering me in extreme fashion (some of which I won, some of which I lost very very badly), this Thor opening seems very strong - and if nothing else, it is an opening I'm confident I can mix in every so often even if I switch away from it in the future.
Against Zerg...on Feb. 24 I watched the Jinro vs Idra Clash of the Titans showmatch. I've been going for marine/siege tank generally but I believe starting 2 Barracks with the possibility of bunker rush into a fast expansion will be a good choice for me. Needs more testing.
In TvT, I have a very simple basic style of 1/1/1 into a quick 7 marine, siege tank, medivac "poke" into expand. I need to work on the midgame's macro - terrans have been doing amazing things with marnies to me which I intend to finally start picking up.
On September 05 2011 05:03 OscarN wrote: trump man... u had potential to be big.... then u just stop playing? or you made that wow guide and stopping playing! ill be sure to check it out
EPT
BUt your TvP looks really good. So i will check that out cause my TvP isn't so good.
