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Xeph
Korea (South)191 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/T29R9.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/bNGym.png) ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/NWcja.jpg) Korean Zerg player DongRaeGuProS(동래구프로에쓰) just reached 4000 points in KR ladder. He won 12 games in a row, and now he is 4006 points. As you can see above, it was like a competition between DongRaeGuProS(동래구프로에쓰) and ST_Squirtle(스타테일꼬부기) who has 3954 points now. Among his 12 winning streaks, last 3 matches were against ST_Squirtle(스타테일꼬부기). I just talked with DongRaeGuProS(동래구프로에쓰) and you might can see his stream on this Wednesday with Xeph's Progamer Stream. | ||
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Vehemus
United States586 Posts
Edit: Wrong info. | ||
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Kantutan
Canada1319 Posts
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
I'd like to hear IdrA's opinion, he always says it very clearly who's good and who's not. | ||
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Vehemus
United States586 Posts
On February 14 2011 05:15 decaf wrote: Never heard of him tbh I'd like to hear IdrA's opinion, he always says it very clearly who's good and who's not. He's been top of the Korean ladder and has had a roughly 60% win rate for at least a couple months now. | ||
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elmizzt
United States3309 Posts
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Xeph
Korea (South)191 Posts
On February 14 2011 05:14 Vehemus wrote: DongNaeGu lost after he hit 4,000 points. But congrats to him, I hope he can make it to the next Code A qualifiers. No he didn't. | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
On February 14 2011 05:15 decaf wrote: Never heard of him tbh I'd like to hear IdrA's opinion, he always says it very clearly who's good and who's not. idra called him the piqliq of the KR server | ||
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hotstuff
Norway42 Posts
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
On February 14 2011 05:16 zerious wrote: idra called him the piqliq of the KR server Yeah, but piqliq plays toss. I don't think it's that easy with Zerg. 60% win percentage is actually quite amazing with Zerg imo. | ||
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Vehemus
United States586 Posts
That's odd. My mistake, I had loaded up SC2ranks earlier and saw him at 4,000. Then loaded it up again a few minutes later and it had him at 3,960 and 59.90%. Must have been an updating issue. I apologize for the misinformation. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38199 Posts
He's the guy that couldn't get to the Code A qualies because of how far he lives from Seoul right? Hopefully he can make the trip next time ^^ (in other 4k news, nightend briefly hit it this afternoon on eu [4012] before falling back down again) | ||
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Xeph
Korea (South)191 Posts
On February 14 2011 05:19 Asha` wrote: Grats to him! He's the guy that couldn't get to the Code A qualies because of how far he lives from Seoul right? Hopefully he can make the trip next time ^^ (in other 4k news, nightend briefly hit it this afternoon on eu [4012] before falling back down again) He lost against GanZi on Code A qualify. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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ChickenLips
2912 Posts
On February 14 2011 05:19 Asha` wrote: Grats to him! He's the guy that couldn't get to the Code A qualies because of how far he lives from Seoul right? Hopefully he can make the trip next time ^^ (in other 4k news, nightend briefly hit it this afternoon on eu [4012] before falling back down again) yeah this shows you how ridiculous ladder is if someone like nightend can be in top 3. (i mean ... seriously ... watch some of his games) love to see how dongraegupros performs, idra called him cheesy, but anyone that doesnt play 100% macro greed zerg is a fucking idiot according to him anyways. KR ladder is pretty tough, so he must have some pretty solid early game. | ||
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Cedstick
Canada3336 Posts
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walklightwhat
Australia752 Posts
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
 Dongrae ?edit: i misread the name so it may not be him DongRaeGu v DongRae | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
Perhaps he might even be related to a certain other "Dong" we know haha... | ||
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GP
United States1056 Posts
On February 14 2011 05:15 decaf wrote: Never heard of him tbh I'd like to hear IdrA's opinion, he always says it very clearly who's good and who's not. Idra has only played against him. He's only got one third of the picture, so what's the point of listening to Idra? Apparently he thought Nestea was cheesy and wasn't very good after he won the GSL so... | ||
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
EDIT: Xeph i don't know how you find this kind of contacts but you're awesome. I hope your stream records VODs just in case i can't watch DongRaeGu on wednesday. | ||
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SpeedOfLight
Korea (South)4 Posts
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BleaK_
Norway593 Posts
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Comet702
China236 Posts
Comet from wfbrood.com(China). I have translated this article into Chinese and posted on wfbrood.com. I have clearly stated that this was taken from here and I will bring the feedback to here. Here is the link: http://bbs.wfbrood.com/thread-24437-1-1.html Thanks. | ||
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Xeph
Korea (South)191 Posts
On February 14 2011 17:29 BleaK_ wrote: Here is a game of his against HuK casted by Artosis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXyJq2oOzXo Oh thank you. I've never seen this. ST_Squirtle just reached 4000 points also. | ||
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BetterFasterStronger
United States604 Posts
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Crushgroove
United States793 Posts
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Geo.Rion
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takkatakka
United States48 Posts
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
On February 14 2011 16:41 Djagulingu wrote: Just like MvP team (after all, they have the same root). Can you elaborate a little? I'm interested in these two teams. | ||
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redeux
United States148 Posts
& congrats on 4k points of course | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On February 14 2011 18:41 Turgid wrote: Can you elaborate a little? I'm interested in these two teams. ProS was born out of the old WeRRa, I guess MVP (the team, not the player) was as well. | ||
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On February 14 2011 22:16 Liquid`Jinro wrote: ProS was born out of the old WeRRa, I guess MVP (the team, not the player) was as well. Exactly. About ProS, there was a community thread named "WeRRa to make fresh start as ProS". About team MvP, ex-WeRRa players like PhoeNix, LoveRip and Keeping are with that team. Also, if you watched PhoenixMvP's stream recently, he uses the ID "HeaDProS" in the ladder. With all of this being said, it makes me think both ProS clan and MvP team share the same root with ProS being the "clan that carries WeRRa traditions" which was mentioned in "WeRRa disbands due to sexual misconduct" thread and MvP being the team which is also supported by ProS clan that is picking up where WeRRa left off. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On February 14 2011 05:15 decaf wrote: Never heard of him tbh I'd like to hear IdrA's opinion, he always says it very clearly who's good and who's not. Why? People really got to start taking what IdrA says with a gain of salt. Shesh, it's starting to get out of hand. | ||
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
On February 15 2011 01:19 StarStruck wrote: Why? People really got to start taking what IdrA says with a gain of salt. Shesh, it's starting to get out of hand. I'm intelligent enough to extract only the data I need from his replies, you don't need to protect anyone. I'd like to hear IdrA's opinion because he's one of the best players in the world and he is very honest about what he says; some people lie if they don't want to make someone feel offended, he isn't that way and therefore his opinion is much more worth. | ||
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On February 14 2011 05:15 decaf wrote: Never heard of him tbh I'd like to hear IdrA's opinion, he always says it very clearly who's good and who's not. IdrA on MvP team and ProS clan players: "/* They are a bunch of cheesers */, they tend to do one base allins and they are not that good". /* I'm not exactly sure on what he said between these signs. Jason Lee expressed the entire quote before PhoenixMvP's GSL S2 Ro32 match, that IdrA said these things about WeRRa clan, you can check out the VOD in season 2 website, VOD of the first match may have this in it. */ IdrA on DongRaeGuProS: "No, he's not good. Having him on #1 KR ladder is like having piqliq on #1 NA ladder" IdrA on WeRRa's disband: "Them all wearing the same tag was a good way to know when you're getting all-in'd" EDIT: If there is anyone else who has more idra quotes on MvP/ProS/WeRRa/DongRaeGu, don't hesitate to share please. | ||
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On February 15 2011 01:39 Djagulingu wrote: IdrA on MvP team and ProS clan players: "/* They are a bunch of cheesers */, they tend to do one base allins and they are not that good". /* I'm not exactly sure on what he said between these signs. Jason Lee expressed the entire quote before PhoenixMvP's GSL S2 Ro32 match, that IdrA said these things about WeRRa clan, you can check out the VOD in season 2 website, VOD of the first match may have this in it. */ IdrA on DongRaeGuProS: "No, he's not good. Having him on #1 KR ladder is like having piqliq on #1 NA ladder" IdrA on WeRRa's disband: "Them all wearing the same tag was a good way to know when you're getting all-in'd" EDIT: If there is anyone else who has more idra quotes on MvP/ProS/WeRRa/DongRaeGu, don't hesitate to share please. Phoenix is anything but a cheesy player. Cella probably told his clan members about how everyone used to cheese Idra on the NA server during beta and maybe they thought it'd be funny to do the same. Idra may be honest, but he has very strong opinions on what he considers as a pretty narrow set of "legit" strategies, and if he encounters players deviating from it, he has a tendency to call them !@#$ing terrible whether he wins or loses those games. EDIT: On this DongRaeGu guy, he's going to have to show some decent tournament results before we can really acknowledge him as a top player. Ladder system has its flaws and many pros don't take it as seriously as others. | ||
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FortuneSyn
1826 Posts
On February 14 2011 18:23 BetterFasterStronger wrote: lol SeleCt at 3999 that would make me rage so hard if that was me lol. select has been 4k for like a day at least already I think. currently 4045 in my division | ||
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Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
On February 14 2011 16:40 GP wrote: Idra has only played against him. He's only got one third of the picture, so what's the point of listening to Idra? Apparently he thought Nestea was cheesy and wasn't very good after he won the GSL so... I don't recall IdrA calling Nestea a cheesy or "not very good", what I recall is IdrA saying that he didn't know Nestea enough to afirm that he was good. //tx | ||
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deerpark87
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On February 15 2011 02:11 Sein wrote: Phoenix is anything but a cheesy player. Cella probably told his clan members about how everyone used to cheese Idra on the NA server during beta and maybe they thought it'd be funny to do the same. Idra may be honest, but he has very strong opinions on what he considers as a pretty narrow set of "legit" strategies, and if he encounters players deviating from it, he has a tendency to call them !@#$ing terrible whether he wins or loses those games. EDIT: On this DongRaeGu guy, he's going to have to show some decent tournament results before we can really acknowledge him as a top player. Ladder system has its flaws and many pros don't take it as seriously as others. IdrA's opinions were quite accurate when we think about WeRRa guys and their results in GSL1, as most of these words are quite outdated (except the one that's specifically on DongRaeGu), it's not that accurate at present. Phoenix is far from being cheesy, MvP guys were quite solid and did better than i expected in Zotac team invitational (3-5 with wins against finalist ZeNEX and semi-finalist SlayerS and all-kill against Prime), Tails especially was quite solid (with a bank of 10 wins and an all-kill against Prime with MarineKing in it). On DRG: Considering MvP's best 2 zergs not being that dependable and him appearantly being the "top dawg" in his race in ProS clan and MvP team, I don't see a reason why he's not recruited by MvP. Sure he needs to bank some tournament wins, but i don't think he's too far away from doing that. He's eliminated by GanZi in code A but i think that was some kind of bracket sinister. I don't think he would be eliminated by current code A qualified players except GanZi, LosirA, Virus and maybe Ace. On HuK vs DRGProS video: Artosis only casts replays that foreigners win against koreans. That is maybe because he only gets those replays. I watched it and DRG didn't play cheesy at all in that game. I'm pretty sure that HuK has an even-ish record against him in a good number of games. | ||
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GP
United States1056 Posts
On February 15 2011 02:22 Tschis wrote: I don't recall IdrA calling Nestea a cheesy or "not very good", what I recall is IdrA saying that he didn't know Nestea enough to afirm that he was good. //tx Are you serious? He definitely made it clear he didn't think Nestea was very good. He said in GSL 3 that "a good player would win this time" and, probably not tot the best info, but someone mentioned in Idra's fanclub that he changed his opinion on Nestea, he thought Nestea was bad because Nestea would always cheese him on the ladder and he thought he had an easy bracket in GSL2. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On February 15 2011 03:29 GP wrote: Are you serious? He definitely made it clear he didn't think Nestea was very good. He said in GSL 3 that "a good player would win this time" and, probably not tot the best info, but someone mentioned in Idra's fanclub that he changed his opinion on Nestea, he thought Nestea was bad because Nestea would always cheese him on the ladder and he thought he had an easy bracket in GSL2. Please if you want to state things at least be up to date. Yes in GSL2 Idra said he though Nestea wasn't as good as everything thought and I think that can't really be argued. His play was good but not above what other zergs showed. Since then Idra has stated "people change" and how Nestea has improved a lot since then and is really good now. He even said how Nestea is one of the only zergs he knows that can handle all the cheese thrown at him. Nestea did have an easy bracket and wasn't that amazing back then. Now is a different story. | ||
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GP
United States1056 Posts
On February 15 2011 03:33 Numy wrote: Please if you want to state things at least be up to date. Yes in GSL2 Idra said he though Nestea wasn't as good as everything thought and I think that can't really be argued. His play was good but not above what other zergs showed. Since then Idra has stated "people change" and how Nestea has improved a lot since then and is really good now. He even said how Nestea is one of the only zergs he knows that can handle all the cheese thrown at him. Nestea did have an easy bracket and wasn't that amazing back then. Now is a different story. Uhm, context, context. I know what Idra thinks now, you don't have to tell me that. My whole point was that Idra's impressions from the ladder isn't really the best way to gauge a player. | ||
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chenchen
United States1136 Posts
On February 15 2011 02:22 Tschis wrote: I don't recall IdrA calling Nestea a cheesy or "not very good", what I recall is IdrA saying that he didn't know Nestea enough to afirm that he was good. //tx Even after Nestea won GSL 2, Idra said that he's not that good and grossly overrated by Tastosis. | ||
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DarkGeneral
Canada328 Posts
On February 14 2011 16:40 GP wrote: Idra has only played against him. He's only got one third of the picture, so what's the point of listening to Idra? Apparently he thought Nestea was cheesy and wasn't very good after he won the GSL so... Idra is... an entertainer... I didn't want to use the word clown, but for someone who takes things seriously, he doesn't command the respect he probably should among the community, even though he is actually a skilled player. | ||
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imyzhang
Canada809 Posts
On February 14 2011 05:18 decaf wrote: Yeah, but piqliq plays toss. I don't think it's that easy with Zerg. 60% win percentage is actually quite amazing with Zerg imo. yeah in all honesty, i was surprised that he was zerg as well. not that it's impossible, but to win 12 straight seems like he should earn a feat of strength achivement lol. | ||
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Moonling
United States987 Posts
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Steel
Japan2283 Posts
Huk > all though =D | ||
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kidgonesmall
United States309 Posts
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frogmelter
United States971 Posts
Yes, he does do some all in plays but he is a very solid player and undoubtedly very skilled | ||
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iamxeph
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On February 16 2011 16:54 frogmelter wrote: As requested by lord Xeph, I'm going to comment of Xeph's play Yes, he does do some all in plays but he is a very solid player and undoubtedly very skilled It is not me. It is 동래구프로에쓰(DongRaeGuProS) | ||
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Snaphoo
United States614 Posts
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billyX333
United States1360 Posts
his english is very easy to understand too | ||
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
was he part of the original WeRRa clan too o.O? EDIT: already asked him chat, yea he was... | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On February 16 2011 17:03 billyX333 wrote: DongRaeGu is awesome. watching him on xeph's stream :D his english is very easy to understand too Are you sure it was DongRae speaking the English? It might've been Xeph himself, since he often speaks to the stream viewers and translates stuff for them. Nevertheless, it's cool to see the DongRae on stream. He's quite a strong Zerg, and I'm hoping to see him get into GSL in the near future. | ||
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billyX333
United States1360 Posts
On February 16 2011 17:20 eviltomahawk wrote: Are you sure it was DongRae speaking the English? It might've been Xeph himself, since he often speaks to the stream viewers and translates stuff for them. Nevertheless, it's cool to see the DongRae on stream. He's quite a strong Zerg, and I'm hoping to see him get into GSL in the near future. im just going by what the poster above me "iamxeph" said | ||
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deerpark87
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HQuality
2682 Posts
On February 14 2011 22:16 Liquid`Jinro wrote: ProS was born out of the old WeRRa, I guess MVP (the team, not the player) was as well. Sir what do u think about this zerg? I see him top1 of KR ladder already 3weeks in a row probably ^^ | ||
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TheMunkey
Canada470 Posts
» huk is so hot! Lol this guy is funny as hell | ||
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aquanda
United States477 Posts
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Resolve
Singapore679 Posts
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nemahsys
Canada457 Posts
On February 14 2011 05:15 decaf wrote: Never heard of him tbh I'd like to hear IdrA's opinion, he always says it very clearly who's good and who's not. was this intended to be sarcasm? | ||
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DeltruS
Canada2214 Posts
Epic match. I noticed he overbuilt on COrruptors to make the protoss switch more into a zealot, sentry and stalker army. This was cool b/c it allowed for those banelings. | ||
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
On February 15 2011 01:34 decaf wrote: I'm intelligent enough to extract only the data I need from his replies, you don't need to protect anyone. I'd like to hear IdrA's opinion because he's one of the best players in the world and he is very honest about what he says; some people lie if they don't want to make someone feel offended, he isn't that way and therefore his opinion is much more worth. He's also very biased and bitter towards certain people like MKP. He's not always honest. Anyway watching this guy stream, he's actually surprisingly good! On February 15 2011 02:22 Tschis wrote: I don't recall IdrA calling Nestea a cheesy or "not very good", what I recall is IdrA saying that he didn't know Nestea enough to afirm that he was good. //tx No, he definitely said Nestea "isn't that great and is overrated". Eventhough Nestea is easily the best Zerg in the world at the moment. | ||
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netherDrake
Singapore1831 Posts
On February 16 2011 18:25 dunc wrote: He's also very biased and bitter towards certain people like MKP. He's not always honest. Anyway watching this guy stream, he's actually surprisingly good! No, he definitely said Nestea "isn't that great and is overrated". Eventhough Nestea is easily the best Zerg in the world at the moment. That was after his win in season 2, where he didn't get the chance to play "macro games which showcase real zerg skill", and only proved himself as a top zvz player. Since the S3 ended Idra has said Nestea is the best zerg in the world atm. | ||
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
On February 16 2011 18:33 netherDrake wrote: That was after his win in season 2, where he didn't get the chance to play "macro games which showcase real zerg skill", and only proved himself as a top zvz player. Since the S3 ended Idra has said Nestea is the best zerg in the world atm. 10:53, I'm pretty sure that wasn't short after Nestea's win in season2. You edited your post after I was already looking for this interview so I'm just gonna leave it here! Anyway, believe whichever player you're a fan of. I just wanted to point out that what the other guy said was completely true. | ||
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ALPINA
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Resolve
Singapore679 Posts
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ALPINA
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willeesmalls
United States477 Posts
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penis
Korea (North)1 Post
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Rampager
Australia1007 Posts
<DRG> Live! It's DongRaeGu. | ||
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onPHYRE
Bulgaria907 Posts
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SpaceFighting
New Zealand690 Posts
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Xeph
Korea (South)191 Posts
On February 18 2011 21:03 SpaceFighting wrote: wtf bro...this guys a total badass, hes proasfuck! was there a reason he wasnt in GSL? hes beating code S players and A's...i think i heard something about him living to far away from gsl? iuno QQ I already answered about his Code A thing. He lost by GanZi on Code A quali. | ||
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
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tehplank
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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alepov
Netherlands1132 Posts
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
And he has some sort of resilience to early pressure / cheese. | ||
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ALPINA
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NexUmbra
Scotland3776 Posts
On February 18 2011 21:44 LittLeD wrote: Does this < 쓰 > look like a smiley to anyone else? Yup XD On xephs stream he looked quite good | ||
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pksens
United Kingdom156 Posts
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
On February 14 2011 05:16 zerious wrote: idra called him the piqliq of the KR server It's always fun to see LZgamer and qxc beating up on stupid piqliq on their streams. | ||
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Space Invader
Australia291 Posts
On February 15 2011 02:38 deerpark87 wrote: this is the zerg that says he's going to rape huk at the beginning of their games if you watch huk's stream. usually huk looses to him too no need to use such harsh language o_o i hope he's better than what that game vs huk showed, seems like he must be if he killed squirtle 3 times during a 12 game win-streak. not an easy task as a zerg, even if squirtle was trying a new strat perhaps. or maybe his allins just normally do better than they showed vs huk. | ||
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Ultramus
United States319 Posts
I'm really surprised a zerg managed to go that many games without getting a loss to cheese. | ||
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vileChAnCe
Canada525 Posts
On February 18 2011 22:15 RoosterSamurai wrote: It's always fun to see LZgamer and qxc beating up on stupid piqliq on their streams. I just watched a couple hours of this fellow and I have to say and Idra appears to be entirely wrong, he has some really creative play but his movement and macro is nothing short of impressive. | ||
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
On February 18 2011 23:02 Ultramus wrote: Are there any reps or VODs other than that one vs Huk of this player? I always like watching top zergs :D I'm really surprised a zerg managed to go that many games without getting a loss to cheese. It was really weird. In his game vs sCfou he build early evo chamber and put down like 5 spore crawlers without scouting him going banshee. Maybe I missed something. | ||
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Ultramus
United States319 Posts
On February 18 2011 23:43 butchji wrote: It was really weird. In his game vs sCfou he build early evo chamber and put down like 5 spore crawlers without scouting him going banshee. Maybe I missed something. Glad to see that even the pros share my detection paranoia!! I always throw down a spore at each base regardless of whether or not I know they have cloak. | ||
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Morale
Sweden1010 Posts
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bennyaus
Australia1833 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
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Clare
United States372 Posts
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onPHYRE
Bulgaria907 Posts
I've watched Idra, Ret, CatZ, etc. countless times...and it's not even close for me. His macro is second nature, on par with IdrA. However at the same time he is looking at 10 places on the map, and doing things with his zerglings and Mutas that I am pretty sure is illegal in 29 states... Picture the macro monster that IdrA is, but with the harassment of I dunno...god? His game sense is incredible, making perfect counters, flanks, surrounds..not to mention he can at anytime pump an army to end the game if he sense even a little bit of weakness... I don't know, maybe he was having a good day, but the way I saw him..toy...with code S and A players made me feel like I was watching someone get violated. By far the sickest Zerg..no Starcraft 2 player I have ever watched in first person...and I watch streams VERY often of all races (pretty much anything available to me, aka not in Korea only). DRG Hwaiting!!! | ||
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hitman133
United States1425 Posts
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rushian
United Kingdom568 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On February 19 2011 06:21 onPHYRE wrote: Honestly, after watching him play through first person, I've never seen anything like it in Starcraft 2 (I'd imagine only the likes of NesTea/MVP would make me feel the same). The complete control he has over everything under any kind of pressure is amazing, and to be honest (and I don't say this lightly, in fact ever) the only time I've seen anything like it, is watching the 10 second first person views of Jaedong they show every game... I've watched Idra, Ret, CatZ, etc. countless times...and it's not even close for me. His macro is second nature, on par with IdrA. However at the same time he is looking at 10 places on the map, and doing things with his zerglings and Mutas that I am pretty sure is illegal in 29 states... Picture the macro monster that IdrA is, but with the harassment of I dunno...god? His game sense is incredible, making perfect counters, flanks, surrounds..not to mention he can at anytime pump an army to end the game if he sense even a little bit of weakness... I don't know, maybe he was having a good day, but the way I saw him..toy...with code S and A players made me feel like I was watching someone get violated. By far the sickest Zerg..no Starcraft 2 player I have ever watched in first person...and I watch streams VERY often of all races (pretty much anything available to me, aka not in Korea only). DRG Hwaiting!!! None of his opponents executed their builds particularly well nor abused the zerg timings. He seemed like a very good player, but the stream likely painted a bit overly positive image. Seeing Boxer's meta close positions meta was especially disappointing. | ||
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Clare
United States372 Posts
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Railgan
Switzerland1507 Posts
On February 19 2011 02:01 eviltomahawk wrote: I saw him practicing a proxy-hatch strategy for his TvP on ladder on Xeph's stream. He beat the likes of Genius, Sangho, and other top Protoss with this strategy popularized by our dear Root.Catz. It was funny seeing him as possibly the Korean Catz. do you have a link to a vod or something of that proxy hatch strategy | ||
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excellionx
United States85 Posts
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onPHYRE
Bulgaria907 Posts
On February 19 2011 08:11 syllogism wrote: None of his opponents executed their builds particularly well nor abused the zerg timings. He seemed like a very good player, but the stream likely painted a bit overly positive image. Seeing Boxer's meta close positions meta was especially disappointing. I couldn't disagree more. Not only did he stop some very well timed Terran and Protoss timing pushes several times, but he went about delaying the pushes longer than I've seen any Zerg do with amazing decision making, harassing, and countering. I don't know how much of the 5 hour stream you actually watched but the boxer game is the only example of a poor build execution that I even saw. I'm sure some of it was being 'in the zone' because to be honest he looked unbeatable except in ZvZ when he played NesTea (the best Zerg let alone best ZvZer). But yea like I said.. Sick good. | ||
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hotstuff
Norway42 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On February 19 2011 08:31 Sclol wrote: do you have a link to a vod or something of that proxy hatch strategy VODs weren't allowed to be recorded off of Xeph's stream since the Korean progamers don't want other Koreans being able to access their first-person VODs. Xeph said that the pros allowing him to stream on TL were simply doing a favor, and he repeatedly urged the stream viewers to not record the stream or else he wouldn't be able to stream any more games. | ||
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Xeph
Korea (South)191 Posts
On February 19 2011 08:11 syllogism wrote: None of his opponents executed their builds particularly well nor abused the zerg timings. He seemed like a very good player, but the stream likely painted a bit overly positive image. Seeing Boxer's meta close positions meta was especially disappointing. That is his ability, I think. I don't know why, but none of his opponents cannot make great decision against him; maybe DRG's timing, harassment, multitasking ability made that. Actually, some other progamers are saying DRG has some 'supernaturl' power. lol. This is RTS which is none of the players can make decision freely. | ||
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willeesmalls
United States477 Posts
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Railgan
Switzerland1507 Posts
On February 19 2011 10:39 eviltomahawk wrote: VODs weren't allowed to be recorded off of Xeph's stream since the Korean progamers don't want other Koreans being able to access their first-person VODs. Xeph said that the pros allowing him to stream on TL were simply doing a favor, and he repeatedly urged the stream viewers to not record the stream or else he wouldn't be able to stream any more games. I know its off topic but is there a vod of the proxy hatch of catze anywhere to be found  | ||
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Phanekim
United States777 Posts
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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craz3d
Bulgaria856 Posts
On February 15 2011 03:42 DarkGeneral wrote: Idra is... an entertainer... I didn't want to use the word clown, but for someone who takes things seriously, he doesn't command the respect he probably should among the community, even though he is actually a skilled player. He does entertain, but he doesn't intend to. He's a competitive guy who talks smack about his opponents in order to unsettle them, and it works sometimes. | ||
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Winterfrozz
Sweden357 Posts
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Allscorpion
United Kingdom319 Posts
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magha
Netherlands427 Posts
On February 19 2011 17:41 willeesmalls wrote: GET THIS STREAM UP I AM DYING FROM WITHDRAWALLLLLLL.... please? Im really curious about this guy after reading everything about him here now, really looking forward to seeing some vods or replays of this guy. | ||
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adrift
192 Posts
is he qualified for this coming code A? | ||
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onPHYRE
Bulgaria907 Posts
On February 20 2011 03:52 adrift wrote: guy is really good. also his proxy hatchery build that he beat Sangho and others with was hillarious is he qualified for this coming code A? No he lost to GanZi, who is a very good terran I believe? It's in the thread several times, read it over. He is on IM with NesTea and MVP. | ||
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plasemeious
United States244 Posts
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Javah
France739 Posts
I'll keep a close eye on Xeph's stream, hoping for another session. | ||
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onPHYRE
Bulgaria907 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:58 plasemeious wrote: Are there any videos of him besides the one with him and Huk? I found one.. I don't know any korean, but with some help from google translator I managed to type in his name and the word for replay (in korean, then pasted into google search). I didn't find any replays but I did find one VOD. It's from the korean gomTV site, but the only problem is that the video is almost 3 months old now... A lot has changed since then but since it's the only video I have found that isn't the match against HuK (which is also pretty old) I thought I would post it. Here is the link (the site is in Korean, but i'll explain how to get to the VOD): http://ch.gomtv.com/4057/28101/397657 On the right side there, they have the video for each individual set between the two teams. Set 4 is the one with DRG, his korean id is: 동래구프로에쓰 You will need the korean (the one from the US site will not work) GOM Player to view it. It is easy to download however, just like the other one, only difference is that it is all in korean. On February 22 2011 04:44 Javah wrote: Thanks to all these comments, especially from onPHYRE, I'm now craving for some firstperson streaming of DRG :-] I'll keep a close eye on Xeph's stream, hoping for another session. Just saw him stream for the second time a couple of days later (last night up until the GSL, on Xeph's stream). And I'd have to say everyone in the chat agreed, it was an awesome "pre-game" show to the GSL (Code A in this case), and since it was all against S class talent, it turned out to be even more entertaining than most of the Code A matches themselves. I am just as impressed as I was before. I think in the 4-5 hours total I have watched of MVP_DRG I've seen 2, maximum 3 losses. | ||
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Javah
France739 Posts
Edit: DRG just won! Incredible defense! | ||
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onPHYRE
Bulgaria907 Posts
On February 23 2011 22:55 Javah wrote: Right now on Xeph's stream, GuineaPig laddering against DRG on Scrap, with GuineaPig FPV. Awesome indeed. Edit: DRG just won! Incredible defense! I was watching this game as well. Interesting to see him play from the opponents POV. Very gg also. | ||
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