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On February 03 2011 04:51 Drowsy wrote: Legion.400 INTJ Protoss Masters* *Barely, I've already been demoted and re-promoted once and I suspect I will once more. Low masters high diamond. It's funny how INTJ is rare in the general populace. I remember in a class of 70 kids we all did this and only 2 of us and the professor were INTJ and the common ones were ENFP or ENFJ. Then when you get to the internet on practically any website, it reverses and INTJ suddenly becomes common. I think also being anonymous + on the Internet, people here will be more honest (relatively) about their choices than in a class with peer pressure, etc. | ||
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On February 04 2011 00:37 teamsolid wrote: Show nested quote + On February 03 2011 04:51 Drowsy wrote: Legion.400 INTJ Protoss Masters* *Barely, I've already been demoted and re-promoted once and I suspect I will once more. Low masters high diamond. It's funny how INTJ is rare in the general populace. I remember in a class of 70 kids we all did this and only 2 of us and the professor were INTJ and the common ones were ENFP or ENFJ. Then when you get to the internet on practically any website, it reverses and INTJ suddenly becomes common. I think also being anonymous + on the Internet, people here will be more honest (relatively) about their choices than in a class with peer pressure, etc. Or alternatively we are just all nerds here ^^ | ||
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On February 03 2011 21:13 Beyonder wrote: Show nested quote + On February 03 2011 19:01 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote: On February 03 2011 18:37 Erandorr wrote: What I always found odd is that the psychological community generally is very critical towards stuff like Myers-Briggs and 'emotional intelligence', but at the same time all stand firmly behind the notion of 'IQ' and 'IQ tests'.On February 03 2011 18:25 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote: On February 03 2011 04:11 akaname wrote: Surely you should know as a psychologist that Myers-Briggs is basically your average pseudo-science? It really has no more predictive value than enneagrams.this is amazing, i'm a psychologist and i love it. Runkk#195 INTP, INFP, INTJ, INFJ (depending on when I take the test and what test I take) Protoss/Zerg. Yeah thats why im doubtful as well. The chances that this unbelievably limited test can show anything are very slim in my opinion. I mean, IQ tests are as reproducible as cannon rushes and lack any constructive value. There are people who score phaenomenal at IQ tests but have accomplished nothing intellectually, and the reverse. My cents are that IQ tests, and the entire notion of 'IQ', the supposed metre on 'intelligence' are as pseudo-scientific as Myers-Briggs or 'emotional intelligence'. Uhm, IQ tests predict performance in education job performance very well. There is no other instrument that predicts as well as a good intelligence test (not even a very, very expensive assessment centre matches the IQ test in general). What does emotional intelligence predict? I like how you mention some individuals with a high IQ that do not perform well... We're talking populations here, norm groups. No offence, but you are pretty clueless on this subject. Well to be fair you can learn for IQ tests. I had to do one ( it was not called that but it esentially was) for a college aplication and a friend recommended to me to do a few and it really improves the results, because you see the thoughpatterns required etc. An IQ test just measures what its designed for, which is basicly measuring how quickly and correctly you can understand and apply certain patterns in different categories. There are quite a few people who just train a lot for the test and then score high results based on training not "intelligence" whatever that even is and noone would ever think them to be of high intelligence. Of course if you are really smart you will get through those tests without much preparation but i would never value someones intelligence by that standart | ||
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I studied physics, I can predict the path electrons will take in an electric field down to femtometric precision, furthermore, I can quantify the uncertainty of my measurements in hard units and account exactly how much they leak through. You will pardon my snobbish elitism I hope when what I learnt actually has to do with bloody hard numbers and irrefutable stone cold mathematics rather than this creative interpretation of results. You can debate, but yes there are measures that tell us how well one does in a job or in an educational setting. Not that unthinkable is it? There's entire sub-field of psychology dedicated to it. IQ tests are still ridiculously poor at it. If you take an IQ test the next day the result can be a whole standard deviation different. It's not at all unlikely that if I take it today, it will be 97, if I take it tomorrow, it will be 112. Furthermore, the test itself is also relevant, the selection of questions into it and so on. Imagine if they tried to measure the mass of the W/Z-bosons and were like 'Yeah, it's totally 80 GeV', and they try again the next day and are then like 'Okay, now it's 97 GeV' And this still ignores the fact that IQ tests are as reproducible as a cannon rush. Take the test tomorrow, and the result will be completely different, take a different IQ test at the same time, and its result will also be different. No they are not, they are not ridiculously poor. Actually, the correlation between measures of IQ and job and educational performance is quite high (= a good predictor). Additionally, IQ is ideally measured more than once. However, a good intelligence test will report a confidence interval scale... And although there is variation, this variation is not nearly as high as what youve written. The correlation between intelligence tests at the beginning and at the end of youth are really high as well, for example, indicating the strength of the measurement even over the course of the development. Very little, just as IQ. a 'high emotional intelligence' bears some correlation with a succesful carreer and love life later on. Just as a 'high IQ' bears some correlation with academic results. There are however a very significant amount of people which have a low result on IQ tests and enjoyed a lot of academic success, and the reverse. There are barely any good research articles done on EQ, while there are tons for IQ. Throwing these two in one sentence is a sign of being uneducated on this subject. Additionally, of course there are exceptions, but population wise it's a good indicator. And this is exactly why it's not science. And the list goes on. Really, get off your high exact science horse. There's a reason why we call these social sciences. And yes, they work differently from what you are used to. But if you really want to say something on this topic, I suggest reading some. You can debate the construct, but you can not really debate how useful it is when large populations need to be assessed on how well they will do for a certain job, or a certain education. And this is what it was designed for, and it does the best job possible. Anyways, im quitting derailing this thread now. Nice initiative and I in no way mean to criticise this. I just hate the ignorance on this topic. | ||
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