• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:04
CEST 15:04
KST 22:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High15Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments2[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon10
Community News
herO joins T18Artosis vs Ret Showmatch16Classic wins RSL Revival Season 22Weekly Cups (Sept 15-21): herO Goes For Four2SC2 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes + Sept 22nd update284
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes + Sept 22nd update Team Liquid jersey signed by the Kespa 8 SHIN's Feedback to Current PTR (9/24/2025) Storm change is a essentially a strict buff on PTR herO joins T1
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Prome's Evo #1 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo) Monday Nights Weeklies RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense
Brood War
General
New (Old) Selection Glitch? Firebathero BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL20 General Discussion Artosis vs Ret Showmatch Whose hotkey signature is this?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL20] Ro8 Day 1 BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch [IPSL] ISPL Season 1 Winter Qualis and Info!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Borderlands 3 Liquipedia App: Now Covering SC2 and Brood War!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Big Programming Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[AI] JoCo is Eminem for com…
Peanutsc
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1196 users

[Interview] Grubby: "I am indeed the underdog." - Page 7

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 Next All
Neverplay
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria532 Posts
February 01 2011 20:59 GMT
#121
he lost pretty early, but thats kinda expect since he only plays seriously since about two weeks as stated in the interview
Better light a candle than curse the darkness
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
February 01 2011 21:31 GMT
#122
Grubby was one of the first progamers I followed and remains one of my favs. I really hope he kicks ass in SC2 since he is a great talent.

That video naz linked should be put into the OP since it is amazing.
LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
February 01 2011 21:44 GMT
#123
I really cant wait to see grubby compete. I'm excited
bara
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany150 Posts
February 02 2011 01:32 GMT
#124
On January 31 2011 03:59 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Hope he does well. I like his attitude towards gaming and this industry in general.

One of the better esports documentaries I've seen: http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/23702-ESLTVs_QRY_on_Grubby_full_VOD_now_on_SK_Gaming

Thanks a lot for that link. I really enjoyed watching it!
Pure mathematics is, in its way, the poetry of logical ideas
Smigi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States328 Posts
February 02 2011 01:58 GMT
#125
I'm always interested to see how WC3 players convert to more economy based games.
Drone then Own
Hofo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16 Posts
February 02 2011 07:37 GMT
#126
On January 31 2011 03:59 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Hope he does well. I like his attitude towards gaming and this industry in general.

One of the better esports documentaries I've seen: http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/23702-ESLTVs_QRY_on_Grubby_full_VOD_now_on_SK_Gaming


Thanks Nazgul, I enjoyed watching that.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-02 10:33:26
February 02 2011 10:27 GMT
#127
On January 31 2011 08:33 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 07:49 WhiteDog wrote:
Grubby is a bit coky saying that he is "the best WC3 player in history".
Sure, he is the number 1 in a scene that died some years ago. Playing orc also is no great feat, even though he was one of the only who actually made orc good when it was such a shitty race to play.

Well I wish him great luck, but it will not be as easy as WC3, SC2 is another monster to handle in my opinion.

I have to add that I am an old night elf player and that I hate grubby, but as biased as my vision can be, Grubby obviously can do it, just look at player like Kas or Cruncher, who were never just touching grubby's level in WC3 doing so great in SC2.


First off, he never said he was the best WC3 player in history, he said he nearly became that had he won his third WCG.

Secondly, he isn't #1 and hasn't been for quite a while. He was some years ago when competition was still fierce. He's been constantly top5 though.

Thirdly, last year orc got owned left right and center by elf. Whining about imba orc is so 2009 and it was inaccurate even then.

I didn't see the WCG so my bad for that.
"Whining about orc is so 2009", who care for a scene that is dead ? I am of course talking about the time when it was almost alive, with Moon still playing, insomnia and madfrog coming back for shadow league. A time where orc was all about blade master, with cookie cutter strat (allo raider so I can focus your hero), that don't even change with any match up. I'm sorry, this was a very sad time for Orc race, meta game and the WC3 scene in general.
Grubby was actually a legend (for me) when he was like the only Orc with zacard that was actually owning. Everybody used to think that orc was bad at the time.
My point is, there is a big hype about Grubby, but WC3 is no SC, that's just not the same, and thinking that Grubby will be good only because he have such history is bad.

I have always thought that the players who had the greatest succes in WC3 are the one that didn't leave the game and actually had the courage to stay in despite it's lower scene, it's imbalance and it's very random, sometime non-strategical game play (drop claw with blade master = good, drop armor ring = lolz sell for 75 $$$).
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-02 12:00:01
February 02 2011 11:57 GMT
#128
On January 31 2011 03:50 LittLeD wrote:
Grubby interviews are always great as he has a very good english vocabulary and words himself extremely well most of the times.
I will follow his process of becomming a better SC2 player with huge interest.

Also, Im kinda in the mood to add something more to this. Grubby was actually the very first player I saw that made my jaw completely drop. So, I started playing Wc3 in 2004, by then I knew nothing about the pro scene and was a complete noob like everyone are when they start out. By middle 2005 I started to recognize a bit more about the pro scene and all and the very first Wc3 Pro tournament I watched was Blizzcon in late 05, and guess who was the first guy I saw a game of? Yeah that's right. Grubby. He was up against Lucifer (Another guys I have a HUGE crush on) on Echo Isle, and since I had been playing for about 2 years, I thought I knew alteast some about the game already, but as I said, my jaw just DROPPED in awe. He played so freaking well that I can still remember the game in perfect detail. And since then, I've never let go. Grubby, I've been one of your fans for quite some time now. Ill support you in whatever you do.

Best of luck for the future Manuel.
I met him once

"In 2008 I was in Cologne, to watch the WCG grand finals in WC3. I wanted to cheer for Grubby and had a little poster on which I wrote “Grubby FTW”. At the player’s booth I met a nice girl (which made a photograph of me, later it turned out that she was Cassandra.) Before the semifinale Grubby vs. Hot started, the king of orcs was going into the audience to meet his fans. I saw the chance to meet my hero in person. He signed on the backside of my poster, I turned it around. He somehow recognized it and told me that he saw me on a picture. I just stared at him … the Blademaster himself is speaking to me! He thought I would not understand English and switched to German: “Ich habe dich im Internet gesehen”. Now I was completely baffled. Grubby speaks German …? I do not know if I said anything before I left the scene, at least I have his signature to prove I actually did meet him and that it was not a weird dream.

Before the finals, I added “2004 2008” on my poster. Grubby applied some pressure in the first game, destroyed some moon wells with raiders, but Moon was able to win nonetheless. Grubby however took the other two games home. In the last game, his Blademaster survived with just 2 HP and his Tauren Chieftain go to level 6.

Grubby was world champion, I witnessed it and even met him. YES!!!"


(From my blog http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=188747)


He should do well in SC2 because he is a very solid RTS player and does not rely on some gimmicks.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
February 02 2011 12:35 GMT
#129
On January 31 2011 22:44 Bloodash wrote:
that docu was very moving, couldn't help but laugh at the denglish sentences, just so typical :D

there was another docu about grubby and another player where they followed both players trough the preparations of a tournament, forgot what it was called but believe it was fully dutch with english subtitles
Probably "Beyond the game", featuring Grubby and Sky. (Moon and Nada have a brief appereance on the bonus DVD.)
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Synapze
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada563 Posts
February 02 2011 12:40 GMT
#130
Wow, my warcraft 3 hero turned SC2. I am rooting for you grubby!!!!!! THIS NEWS MADE MY WEEK.
Yuri Victoria LMJ ~♥
nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
February 02 2011 12:45 GMT
#131
On February 01 2011 06:50 Squeegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 00:06 nGBeast wrote:
How can you say the game is more competitive then WC3? They are 2 different games, I didn't see any SC:BW pros switching over and dominating WC3 since it's "less" competitive. From what I've gathered most people who say its less competitive don't understand or haven't followed the game.


I also didn't see anybody switch from NBA to Squeegy Ball Tournament, and they're two different games.

Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 00:20 Seronei wrote:
On January 31 2011 23:43 maybenexttime wrote:
Saying he's the best progamer in the world is completely different from saying he's your favourite progamer.


No it isn't, it's the same thing. You got to realize that an opinion is an opinion, what makes someone the best progamer in his eyes isn't necessarily the thing that makes someone the best progamer in your eyes.


Well, I guess I can call myself the best speedskater in the world too then!

Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 00:23 rysecake wrote:

Pretty sure Moon is the most successful pro gamer of all time. If not in accomplishments then money. Correct me if I'm wrong.


Yeah, no, not in accomplishments. Especially considering how less competetive WC3 was and how many opportunities there were to win. I have no clue how much money he made, so I won't comment on that. I'm very skeptical about it. I mean, in both accounts we even have guys outside of BW like Fatal1ty. Who, by the way, I would say is easily more famous and succeful outside of Korea than Grubby.


No way, Fatal1ty isn't that famous; he spreads himself across too many boring games. Kasperov himself has heard of Grubby. Just think about that.
Dont look at the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
February 02 2011 13:06 GMT
#132
On January 31 2011 07:49 WhiteDog wrote:
Grubby is a bit coky saying that he is "the best WC3 player in history".
Sure, he is the number 1 in a scene that died some years ago. Playing orc also is no great feat
Why is the the only Orc who won WCG?
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
link0
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1071 Posts
February 02 2011 13:12 GMT
#133
He seems like a great guy from the video interview.
http://www.justin.tv/link0 - Gosu.Linko - http://www.facebook.com/link0
CherubDown
Profile Joined August 2010
United States171 Posts
February 03 2011 19:18 GMT
#134
Grubby in action:

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/134070-1v1-protoss-zerg-xelnaga-caverns

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/134071-1v1-protoss-zerg-metalopolis
Zerglinguist
Profile Joined October 2010
United States55 Posts
February 03 2011 19:44 GMT
#135
Grubby Used to be my idol. I will look forward to keeping an eye on his sc progress
livestream.com/zerglinguist
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
February 03 2011 19:56 GMT
#136
GL Grubby. Glad we're on the same team now :D (Toss)
Professional tech investor, part time DotA scrub | Follow @AllMeasures on Twitter
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 21:40:25
February 03 2011 21:39 GMT
#137
On February 02 2011 22:12 link0 wrote:
He seems like a great guy from the video interview.
He is.

He may be is actually the greatest progamer yet. Progamer status is not only judged by results. The korean SC pros live in their team practice houses with very professional coaches. Grubby for most parts manages himself (with help of his wife Cassandra now.)

You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Serthius
Profile Joined December 2010
Samoa226 Posts
February 03 2011 22:20 GMT
#138
The documentary "Beyond the game" by Dutch filmmaker Jos de Putter is up as a featured release in HD quality at over at eztv. Not that I would download anything illegally, of course, but someone less scrupulous might. Just sayin'.

It features mainly Grubby and Sky, but also Madfrog. It even has a few seconds of Tasteless! Really well made, actually. I think even someone not into e-sports could appreciate it.

mcbrite
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany229 Posts
February 03 2011 23:40 GMT
#139
On January 31 2011 03:59 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Hope he does well. I like his attitude towards gaming and this industry in general.

One of the better esports documentaries I've seen: http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/23702-ESLTVs_QRY_on_Grubby_full_VOD_now_on_SK_Gaming


Wow! Thanks a lot for this!!! Just watched it all in one go! Safe to say that Grubby has a new fan! ;-D
mcbrite
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany229 Posts
February 04 2011 00:09 GMT
#140
On February 04 2011 07:20 Serthius wrote:
The documentary "Beyond the game" by Dutch filmmaker Jos de Putter is up as a featured release in HD quality at over at eztv. Not that I would download anything illegally, of course, but someone less scrupulous might. Just sayin'.


It IS legal to download... Just sayin'
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 64
CranKy Ducklings56
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 325
Lowko115
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 2466
Bisu 1820
Sea 1707
Hyuk 864
Larva 352
Stork 351
EffOrt 339
BeSt 310
Soma 276
Leta 250
[ Show more ]
Killer 236
Snow 224
Mini 212
firebathero 210
Hyun 194
Soulkey 160
ggaemo 133
Light 125
hero 81
JYJ77
Mind 76
ZerO 76
Rush 50
Aegong 46
ToSsGirL 44
Sharp 43
zelot 40
Movie 38
Backho 30
Icarus 24
Free 23
soO 22
Bale 21
Nal_rA 20
scan(afreeca) 18
Sexy 18
sorry 13
Terrorterran 12
Sacsri 12
Hm[arnc] 7
Dota 2
Gorgc3972
singsing2881
Dendi831
qojqva712
XcaliburYe236
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1648
byalli372
allub201
markeloff63
edward26
Super Smash Bros
Chillindude16
Other Games
tarik_tv5937
gofns1877
B2W.Neo761
crisheroes370
hiko346
Pyrionflax217
Fuzer 160
SortOf144
XaKoH 109
oskar91
QueenE53
NeuroSwarm41
Trikslyr20
ZerO(Twitch)15
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 72
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis1856
Other Games
• Shiphtur74
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
20h 56m
Maestros of the Game
1d 22h
Serral vs herO
Clem vs Reynor
[BSL 2025] Weekly
2 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
RSL Revival: Season 2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.