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jshnaidz
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada57 Posts
January 24 2011 00:02 GMT
#121
On January 24 2011 04:29 Terr wrote:
Thanks a lot, jshnaidz! I'll work on these!



No problem
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
January 24 2011 00:32 GMT
#122
Some fanart I made:

teamliquid
[image loading]

WeRRa (rip; my favorite wc3 clan/clan tag in general)
[image loading]
[image loading]
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
StreetWise
Profile Joined January 2010
United States594 Posts
January 24 2011 05:04 GMT
#123
Poll: 4 gate push an all in?

No (30)
 
70%

Yes (13)
 
30%

43 total votes

Your vote: 4 gate push an all in?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


There have been some threads about all ins, however, it seems in the community that there seems to be a broad range of what players deem an all in. The definition on Liquidpedia is: A type of attack where the player commits everything in an attack, thus forgoing any long-term strategy from that point. Thus I ask, is a 4 gate contain, while expanding considered an all in (PvP)? I would say no, as the strategy I use in the linked replay allows a fluid transition into either a robo, or stargate tech, along with the added benefit for a second base. Any feedback would be appreciated.

http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=183488
I will not be poisoned by your bitterness
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
January 24 2011 05:07 GMT
#124
On January 24 2011 09:32 Vei wrote:
Some fanart I made:

teamliquid
[image loading]

WeRRa (rip; my favorite wc3 clan/clan tag in general)
[image loading]
[image loading]


Nice graffiti! I was wondering if you would do more? Like say, Casting Archon?
Dear Sixsmith...
lizzuma
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States301 Posts
January 24 2011 05:44 GMT
#125
A question that didn't warrant a new topic:

Does anyone know if the GSL Up/Down matches will be streamed tonight? And if so will it be only the Korean stream?
oPPRoBe
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States199 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-24 05:54:15
January 24 2011 05:51 GMT
#126
On January 24 2011 14:44 lizzuma wrote:
A question that didn't warrant a new topic:

Does anyone know if the GSL Up/Down matches will be streamed tonight? And if so will it be only the Korean stream?


I vaguely remember Tastosis saying that they will be casting the up/down matches but I'm not too sure...

It does seem to be scheduled on the GomTV Website though.
http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors1/schedule/



BTW, does anyone have any good replays on a good 2 Rax FE build against Protoss in the most recent patch? I'm doing okay with the build, but I still don't know how to play the match-up properly (when to attack/harass/add more production facilities/etc...)
lmlm
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
January 24 2011 09:54 GMT
#127
Question that I wouldn't dare to put into a thread-title....anyone active at US battle.net-forums heard anything about "the" ladder-reset? I'm just being curious, if we are talking about weeks or months, etc.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
January 24 2011 19:22 GMT
#128
Anyone getting sick of all the TvTs in the top level of GSL. Feels like I been only watching one matchup for the past 3 game nights.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
January 24 2011 20:41 GMT
#129
Dont you guys think Team Incredible Miracle should try to pick up MC / Genius, because they lack one ImbaToss to complete the triangle of domination.

Additionally, isn't it necessary to somehow patch Protoss in a way that PvP stops being 4 gate only, as its a very very good choice vs Non-4gaters and the best choice to defend against 4gate is 4gate (oh my).
This is our town, scrub
Ghost Prototype
Profile Joined January 2011
United States20 Posts
January 24 2011 21:37 GMT
#130

Additionally, isn't it necessary to somehow patch Protoss in a way that PvP stops being 4 gate only, as its a very very good choice vs Non-4gaters and the best choice to defend against 4gate is 4gate (oh my).


The counter to dragoon is dragoon!
In all seriousness, it is a little depressing seeing so many PvP's all boil down to stalkers micro'ing against eachother (not as fun as baneling v baneling micro)


Anyone getting sick of all the TvTs in the top level of GSL. Feels like I been only watching one matchup for the past 3 game nights.

I am indeed! But I guess its inevitable when they're so statistically overrepresented. I like (without justification) to qq as much as the next guy, but wow is are there a lot of terrans in high end SC2 play.
Cryogenic
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada75 Posts
January 25 2011 06:32 GMT
#131
Anyone getting sick of all the TvTs in the top level of GSL. Feels like I been only watching one matchup for the past 3 game nights.


I don't mind, we haven't seen a Terran win the GLS yet, so it's kinda nice seeing high level Terran at it's finest. I don't play T but I still can't wait to see it!
"If you don't go after what you want, you'll never have it. If you don't ask, the answer is always no. If you don't step forward, you're always in the same place." - Nora Roberts .:| Scarlett |:.
lavalamp
Profile Joined January 2011
1 Post
January 25 2011 06:41 GMT
#132
Hi everyone, just thought you might like to see this starcraft2 cocktails site. I had a great laugh making it and thought you'd appretiate it.http://starcraft-cocktails.smizmo.co.nz http://starcraft-cocktails.smizmo.co.nz
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
January 25 2011 09:57 GMT
#133
Why isn't Phoenix/DT against Zerg used at all? I'd think it would work much better than DT/Sair in Broodwar.
Zerg detection is much harder to come by than in Broodwar, Phoenix are better harassers than Corsairs ever were, and there are no Scourge to worry about.
DTs are a bit harder to tech to than in BW, but that can't be the sole reason, right?
Shucks!
Profile Joined November 2010
United States118 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 10:04:22
January 25 2011 10:03 GMT
#134
On January 25 2011 18:57 Scorch wrote:
Why isn't Phoenix/DT against Zerg used at all? I'd think it would work much better than DT/Sair in Broodwar.
Zerg detection is much harder to come by than in Broodwar, Phoenix are better harassers than Corsairs ever were, and there are no Scourge to worry about.
DTs are a bit harder to tech to than in BW, but that can't be the sole reason, right?


Because it is too gas intensive to be viable and still have a strong enough army to compete.
Works pretty well in PPvZZ though, lol.

EDIT::

I heard iNcontrol talk about Kiwikaki using some kind of one base dt void ray strategy, anyone know about this?
"Do not look into the eyes of a horse, for the void there will swallow your soul" - LiquidTyler on SotG 12.14.10
GT
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)141 Posts
January 25 2011 10:04 GMT
#135
On January 24 2011 14:04 StreetWise wrote:
Poll: 4 gate push an all in?

No (30)
 
70%

Yes (13)
 
30%

43 total votes

Your vote: 4 gate push an all in?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


There have been some threads about all ins, however, it seems in the community that there seems to be a broad range of what players deem an all in. The definition on Liquidpedia is: A type of attack where the player commits everything in an attack, thus forgoing any long-term strategy from that point. Thus I ask, is a 4 gate contain, while expanding considered an all in (PvP)? I would say no, as the strategy I use in the linked replay allows a fluid transition into either a robo, or stargate tech, along with the added benefit for a second base. Any feedback would be appreciated.

http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=183488


its very situational, 4gate can be all in a lot of times, other times its not. it depends on what your left with after the fighting is done and how much damage youve done to your opponent.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
January 25 2011 10:42 GMT
#136
On January 25 2011 04:22 xbankx wrote:
Anyone getting sick of all the TvTs in the top level of GSL. Feels like I been only watching one matchup for the past 3 game nights.

We have seen some pretty amazing TvTs

Jinro vs Ensnare
Boxer vs Hyperdub

Jinro vs MKP

There were some pretty awesome games in there.. it is probably the best mirror match up; imagine watching a bunch of ZvZs or PvPs.. i'd die
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Vedad
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden34 Posts
January 25 2011 11:37 GMT
#137
On January 25 2011 19:04 GT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 14:04 StreetWise wrote:
Poll: 4 gate push an all in?

No (30)
 
70%

Yes (13)
 
30%

43 total votes

Your vote: 4 gate push an all in?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


There have been some threads about all ins, however, it seems in the community that there seems to be a broad range of what players deem an all in. The definition on Liquidpedia is: A type of attack where the player commits everything in an attack, thus forgoing any long-term strategy from that point. Thus I ask, is a 4 gate contain, while expanding considered an all in (PvP)? I would say no, as the strategy I use in the linked replay allows a fluid transition into either a robo, or stargate tech, along with the added benefit for a second base. Any feedback would be appreciated.

http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=183488


its very situational, 4gate can be all in a lot of times, other times its not. it depends on what your left with after the fighting is done and how much damage youve done to your opponent.

Agree, I've lately been experimenting with a 4gate opening into expo in PvZ. What I do is that i probe up, and have 2 gas, and while slowly engaging him, and making him produce units i expo at around 50 food, and retreat. works good.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 12:27:43
January 25 2011 12:25 GMT
#138
Here's what I think about all-ins: Unless you're bringing all your workers for the attack - IT'S NOT FUCKING ALL-IN, stop using the phrase just coz it sounds cool when Phil Ivey says it.

edited typo
debasers
Profile Joined August 2010
737 Posts
January 25 2011 12:41 GMT
#139
4gate is only all-inish if you cut a LOT of probes to get it extra fast.
Natt
Profile Joined August 2010
France253 Posts
January 25 2011 12:55 GMT
#140
On January 25 2011 21:25 niteReloaded wrote:
Here's what I think about all-ins: Unless you're bringing all your workers for the attack - IT'S NOT FUCKING ALL-IN, stop using the phrase just coz it sounds cool when Phil Ivey says it.

edited typo


WTH is Phil Ivey doing here ?
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