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Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
January 01 2011 16:40 GMT
#61
so is he naniwa?
The Real Power~
.ImpacT.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States390 Posts
January 01 2011 16:42 GMT
#62
On January 02 2011 01:40 Zea! wrote:
so is he naniwa?

No, he's Reach. X_X
+ Show Spoiler +
Oh...if only ;'(
yejin
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
France493 Posts
January 01 2011 16:44 GMT
#63
Could this be ELL abuse ? I mean... 75% is a lot.

In wc3 after 1.14 there was a patch to change the ELL, the way match-making works and there was a trick to "abuse it".

You lose 10 / 15 games on purpose to have a hell of a crappy ELL and then, for the next 100 games, you're matched to opponents with negative win ratio, until you reach a good ELL again but you have stats like 80/10.

Maybe what happened ?
nospeech
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
January 01 2011 16:46 GMT
#64
On January 02 2011 01:44 yejin wrote:
Could this be ELL abuse ? I mean... 75% is a lot.

In wc3 after 1.14 there was a patch to change the ELL, the way match-making works and there was a trick to "abuse it".

You lose 10 / 15 games on purpose to have a hell of a crappy ELL and then, for the next 100 games, you're matched to opponents with negative win ratio, until you reach a good ELL again but you have stats like 80/10.

Maybe what happened ?


No that's not what happened. Check his game history.
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takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
January 01 2011 16:47 GMT
#65
What has clide, or poltprime done to be considered as good as Jinro. I mostly don't care to much for Terran players but oGsTop and Jinro are beasts because they don't have to beat you off of two bases like most terrans, they can play macro with anyone and that in its self is way more impressive than anything poltprime or clide have ever done. I do think mvp is capable of playing macro style if he needs to but he isnt as good all around as jinro or top and maybe even maka.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
SpurvL
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden345 Posts
January 01 2011 16:54 GMT
#66
Puckelrygg goes MeatyOwlLegs, plays with nani in 3v3, my geuess is that this is a swede...
Naniwa, ThorZaiN, SaSe, DeMusliM, White-RA... Where are my Zerg heroes?.. Stephano <3
SmoKe93
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany162 Posts
January 01 2011 16:55 GMT
#67
On January 02 2011 01:42 .ImpacT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2011 01:40 Zea! wrote:
so is he naniwa?

No, he's Reach. X_X
+ Show Spoiler +
Oh...if only ;'(


thatd be so incredible i cant think of it
cArn-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)824 Posts
January 01 2011 16:58 GMT
#68
On January 02 2011 01:02 Pawnawa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2011 01:00 BritishBeef wrote:
Onebaseiwa is actually a pretty decent player, I used to really like him till he posted that crap in beta saying he would "beat any american player in a bo3" or whatever bullcrap he said, just because idra would hand his protoss ass to him,

We all know that is amazing what he has done, but if he were on the korean ladder, he wouldn't even have made it anywhere close to where he has. Still amazing tho it does make the european ladder look crappy tho


What makes you think korean players are better than everyone else? As far as I know the korean server is just full of stupid all-ins, even at the top top level (Yeah, GSL).


I was one of those who were thinking that KR ladder >>> * was just some kind of popular legend or something, and now that I'm there I have to admit that yes, the difference is actually really huge and not a myth.
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Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
January 01 2011 17:00 GMT
#69
On January 02 2011 01:47 takingbackoj wrote:
What has clide, or poltprime done to be considered as good as Jinro. I mostly don't care to much for Terran players but oGsTop and Jinro are beasts because they don't have to beat you off of two bases like most terrans, they can play macro with anyone and that in its self is way more impressive than anything poltprime or clide have ever done. I do think mvp is capable of playing macro style if he needs to but he isnt as good all around as jinro or top and maybe even maka.

having this argument is kind of stupid since there's way too much to take into consideration for us to be able to decide who's better than the other. i believe clide proved vs leenock in gsl3 that he has a strong macro oriented playstyle. he still has a lot to prove though since he hasn't been doing great in gsl. however it's easy to tell he has mad skills and i'm sure people wouldn't hype him if he wasn't one of the best. i just named him out of bias from what i've seen/heard.
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
January 01 2011 17:02 GMT
#70
On January 02 2011 01:47 takingbackoj wrote:
What has clide, or poltprime done to be considered as good as Jinro. I mostly don't care to much for Terran players but oGsTop and Jinro are beasts because they don't have to beat you off of two bases like most terrans, they can play macro with anyone and that in its self is way more impressive than anything poltprime or clide have ever done. I do think mvp is capable of playing macro style if he needs to but he isnt as good all around as jinro or top and maybe even maka.


wrong thread? or just your mind wandering waaaay off?
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
January 01 2011 17:07 GMT
#71
regardless of who it is that is a ridiculously good win percentage and abuse(?) or maybe just use of bonus pool points WOW
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 01 2011 17:20 GMT
#72
On January 02 2011 01:47 takingbackoj wrote:
What has clide, or poltprime done to be considered as good as Jinro. I mostly don't care to much for Terran players but oGsTop and Jinro are beasts because they don't have to beat you off of two bases like most terrans, they can play macro with anyone and that in its self is way more impressive than anything poltprime or clide have ever done. I do think mvp is capable of playing macro style if he needs to but he isnt as good all around as jinro or top and maybe even maka.


Keep in mind Jinro didn't really break out and get to the level he is at now (code s material) until he had spent 2+ months practicing in Korea. And yes, it's very easy to come up with Koreans who are better than him because right now the Koreans have the best players in the world. It's not a myth. The blizzcon results show what a good Korean player can do to foreigners (I think Genius is overrated, but he still dominated)

On the OT, this is interesting. That morrow game was something out of macro BW lol. Don't see that too often.
ste0731
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom435 Posts
January 01 2011 17:25 GMT
#73
IT's noway naniwa xD Troll rumours getting carried on. Am wondering who it is though :x
bball2
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada49 Posts
January 01 2011 18:47 GMT
#74
I think it's Inka, if you look at his 3v3 games, one of his teams has Lillan / nAni (which I assume is naniwa?).

Of course it could always be MC Korean account , or Bisu finally making the switch!
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 18:53:57
January 01 2011 18:52 GMT
#75
On January 02 2011 01:19 Sorkoas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2011 01:16 Tokay wrote:
On January 02 2011 01:15 Sorkoas wrote:
On January 02 2011 01:02 Pawnawa wrote:
On January 02 2011 01:00 BritishBeef wrote:
Onebaseiwa is actually a pretty decent player, I used to really like him till he posted that crap in beta saying he would "beat any american player in a bo3" or whatever bullcrap he said, just because idra would hand his protoss ass to him,

We all know that is amazing what he has done, but if he were on the korean ladder, he wouldn't even have made it anywhere close to where he has. Still amazing tho it does make the european ladder look crappy tho


What makes you think korean players are better than everyone else? As far as I know the korean server is just full of stupid all-ins, even at the top top level (Yeah, GSL).

time to wake up and stop listen to swedish pros crying believing they have a better idea of how to play the game. name the best player from each race outside of korea and its np naming 3-4 koreans who are better


Name 4 terrans who are better than jinro atm.

mvp, clide, foxer and maka.

Replace Maka with ST_Bomber and Clide with TOP probably, if we are going for top 4. Tho its close I guess.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
January 01 2011 18:52 GMT
#76
Its def naniwa
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
January 01 2011 19:03 GMT
#77
On January 02 2011 03:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2011 01:19 Sorkoas wrote:
On January 02 2011 01:16 Tokay wrote:
On January 02 2011 01:15 Sorkoas wrote:
On January 02 2011 01:02 Pawnawa wrote:
On January 02 2011 01:00 BritishBeef wrote:
Onebaseiwa is actually a pretty decent player, I used to really like him till he posted that crap in beta saying he would "beat any american player in a bo3" or whatever bullcrap he said, just because idra would hand his protoss ass to him,

We all know that is amazing what he has done, but if he were on the korean ladder, he wouldn't even have made it anywhere close to where he has. Still amazing tho it does make the european ladder look crappy tho


What makes you think korean players are better than everyone else? As far as I know the korean server is just full of stupid all-ins, even at the top top level (Yeah, GSL).

time to wake up and stop listen to swedish pros crying believing they have a better idea of how to play the game. name the best player from each race outside of korea and its np naming 3-4 koreans who are better


Name 4 terrans who are better than jinro atm.

mvp, clide, foxer and maka.

Replace Maka with ST_Bomber and Clide with TOP probably, if we are going for top 4. Tho its close I guess.


Agreed, what about Rainbow? Has everyone forgotten about him or has he really fallen off the face of the planet? Either way detective Jinro I hope your on the case to find out who this is!
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
January 01 2011 19:08 GMT
#78
Well they are #1 now.
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Rawr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden624 Posts
January 01 2011 19:15 GMT
#79
I don't know if it has been mentioned, but "puckelrygg" means hunchback in Swedish.
Joo Se-Hyuk
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9378 Posts
January 01 2011 19:26 GMT
#80
On January 02 2011 03:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2011 01:19 Sorkoas wrote:
On January 02 2011 01:16 Tokay wrote:
On January 02 2011 01:15 Sorkoas wrote:
On January 02 2011 01:02 Pawnawa wrote:
On January 02 2011 01:00 BritishBeef wrote:
Onebaseiwa is actually a pretty decent player, I used to really like him till he posted that crap in beta saying he would "beat any american player in a bo3" or whatever bullcrap he said, just because idra would hand his protoss ass to him,

We all know that is amazing what he has done, but if he were on the korean ladder, he wouldn't even have made it anywhere close to where he has. Still amazing tho it does make the european ladder look crappy tho


What makes you think korean players are better than everyone else? As far as I know the korean server is just full of stupid all-ins, even at the top top level (Yeah, GSL).

time to wake up and stop listen to swedish pros crying believing they have a better idea of how to play the game. name the best player from each race outside of korea and its np naming 3-4 koreans who are better


Name 4 terrans who are better than jinro atm.

mvp, clide, foxer and maka.

Replace Maka with ST_Bomber and Clide with TOP probably, if we are going for top 4. Tho its close I guess.


Hi Jinro
You think Clide is overrated? Is he better than you?
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