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ok, i know this sounds crazy to a ton of people, but i am halfway through my Jr year in highschool, and im working on getting good enough to be able to become pro right after highschool. and i know there are going to be tons of people who say "dont do it! its too risky!" or "your wasting your life" but this is what i am dedicated to do.
let me start off by saying how good i actually am right now. so i have been playing for about 8 months, (since beta) and i have improved from pretty low bronze newbie to pretty high diamond because i am a very fast learner. but if i made that much of an improvement in 8 months, another year and half will get me a lot higher. so i am constantly working my way up to get closer to the top 200 where a few of my friends are. here is my profile
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/339086/1/iDreamadroid/
so i am not the best in the world yet, but probly around rank 4000 in the US. and of course i will work my way up.
so how do people actually start to make a living off of it?
do you have to move to korea like IdrA and just find every little tournament plus GSL?
cant you join a clan and get sponsored or something?
i am just a little unfamiliar of the whole process of how this works.
so any productive responses are appreciated, just try to leave out the criticism. but i know that Team Liquid is awesome enough to have less trolls than any other forum.
also maybe remember the name iDreamadroid for future years ;D everyone starts somewhere
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Go to open tournaments, win many games, get notice by teams, and there u go.
Now, that sounds easy, but you can ask the pros if it was or not. The answer might scare u
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ummmm ... let's try and go easy on this guy.
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the problem is that most of the really good guys have been playing rts competitively for many years.. its really hard to catch up to that being new to rts.
best way to get better is to be focused on improving while grinding many many games.
then do well in tournaments and get sponsorship
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You don't simply walk become a pro
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Really you need to start off by getting recognised.
Get to the top of ladder.
Win some online tourneys.
Win some offline tourneys. (Yes I realise SC2 is technically always online)
Apply to top teams with examples of why they should pick you up, (all the tourneys you've won etc.)
Once you are on a top team, that pretty much makes you pro, then put in the training hours with the team, and enter even more big events.
edit: judging by your rank, im not sure if you are capable of getting there, most pros have years experience in sc1 or other games (such as war3 etc.) Theres being good, and theres being pro. Theres a distinct difference. Any "very good" ladder player could occasionally take a game off a pro. But in a BO7, the pro will come out infront everytime.
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i'll be realistic here.
you will have a greater chance if you stop school and play games from a younger age.
This was the case for Flash, one of the dominant player in SC history.
He started when he was 15, and big portion of his time went to practices.
If your motivated to succeed in e-sports, i recommend having your priorities changed.
Gaming would have to be your first not school, and by all means, this doesnt mean you
must drop out. But rather, you have to understand that doing good in school is not what you
would be expecting, given that you are motivated to succeed in gaming.
So my point is, set your priorities.
How are you going to spend you time?
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I doubt there are many players in the US that don't have some kind of other job. Playing sc2 in the US full time is just not an option (I am sure there are exceptions).
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I don't know about Starcraft 2, but a lot of Starcraft 1 pro's barely made a living.
I'm assuming we're defining 'professional' as a guy that can play SC2 and survive, which I imagine requires a player not only to win, but win consistently and often.
Even top 'pro's' like InControl -- who is really, legitimately good -- subsidize their income by coaching.
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On December 10 2010 14:05 compscidude wrote:
i'll be realistic here.
you will have a greater chance if you stop school and play games from a younger age.
This was the case for Flash, one of the dominant player in SC history.
He started when he was 15, and big portion of his time went to practices.
If your motivated to succeed in e-sports, i recommend having your priorities changed.
Gaming would have to be your first not school, and by all means, this doesnt mean you
must drop out. But rather, you have to understand that doing good in school is not what you
would be expecting, given that you are motivated to succeed in gaming.
So my point is, set your priorities.
How are you going to spend you time?
You can't really use Flash as en example here... Considering how many ppl apply to be progamers, go through Courage, try to become at least semi-pro; all those people have basically given up their education for very little success in the scene. Flash is one-of-a-kind, 8 months and 2000 points, that's really nothing impressive.
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You would need to practice methodically and systematically to improve your game rather than just haphazardly playing on ladder. Start getting some tournament experience as early as possible (online opens to start with). Meet people and talk to them, you don't want to be an isolated anonymous ladder player no matter how good you are.
There's no secret recipe to it, the process is mostly common knowledge, actually getting there is the genuinely difficult part. Don't commit to anything until you know you've got a decent shot at it.
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On December 10 2010 14:08 CanucksJC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 14:05 compscidude wrote:
i'll be realistic here.
you will have a greater chance if you stop school and play games from a younger age.
This was the case for Flash, one of the dominant player in SC history.
He started when he was 15, and big portion of his time went to practices.
If your motivated to succeed in e-sports, i recommend having your priorities changed.
Gaming would have to be your first not school, and by all means, this doesnt mean you
must drop out. But rather, you have to understand that doing good in school is not what you
would be expecting, given that you are motivated to succeed in gaming.
So my point is, set your priorities.
How are you going to spend you time? You can't really use Flash as en example here... Considering how many ppl apply to be progamers, go through Courage, try to become at least semi-pro; all those people have basically given up their education for very little success in the scene. Flash is one-of-a-kind, 8 months and 2000 points, that's really nothing impressive.
I thought Flash finished school aswell? Or was that JD?
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On December 10 2010 13:58 Idmaif wrote:ok, i know this sounds crazy to a ton of people, but i am halfway through my Jr year in highschool, and im working on getting good enough to be able to become pro right after highschool. and i know there are going to be tons of people who say "dont do it! its too risky!" or "your wasting your life" but this is what i am dedicated to do. let me start off by saying how good i actually am right now. so i have been playing for about 8 months, (since beta) and i have improved from pretty low bronze newbie to pretty high diamond because i am a very fast learner. but if i made that much of an improvement in 8 months, another year and half will get me a lot higher. so i am constantly working my way up to get closer to the top 200 where a few of my friends are. here is my profile http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/339086/1/iDreamadroid/so i am not the best in the world yet, but probly around rank 4000 in the US. and of course i will work my way up. so how do people actually start to make a living off of it? do you have to move to korea like IdrA and just find every little tournament plus GSL? cant you join a clan and get sponsored or something? i am just a little unfamiliar of the whole process of how this works. so any productive responses are appreciated, just try to leave out the criticism. but i know that Team Liquid is awesome enough to have less trolls than any other forum. also maybe remember the name iDreamadroid for future years ;D everyone starts somewhere
just do what you want .. fuck everyone who tells you what to do ..
you just need 90% dedication and the 10%, leave it to Luck ..
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Also, sorry to be a dick but I started playing late in the beta (had never really played an RTS before) and went from low silver to ~2500 diamond in about 7months.
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Being good at anything is easy. Being great is something else.
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How hard does one need to practice to go PRO, for Basketball, Football, baseball... Make it your life and you can do it (the above also sort of have a physical requirement in some ways SC2 not so much as long as you can work a mouse)
Win tourneys, and make friends with big clans and get in. Same way for alot of talents and careers. Be good(*edit be AMAZING), get noticed.
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As is it right now, you can't make a living out of it right now. You have to spend 10h+ per day practicing to have a minuscule chance of winning a couple bucks.. NOt really worth it right now.
Sure theres the top guys from the gsl (idra, boxer, jinro, etc...), but these are exeptions.. They make a bit from their sponsers but not very much.. To get to that level is almost impossible when you take in account all the good starcraft II players in the world.
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i'm no gosu level in sc2 but i've had competitive experience in counter-strike and i've met alot of people through Cyberglobe. the team is dead now, i used to manage the cyberglobe cafe and ran a team sponsored cyberglobe cafe.
best thing for you to do is to goto tournaments. it might be difficult depending on where you live but, for example: there's a tournament comping up about ~1 hr from where i live in mountain view. http://www.meetup.com/santacruzgam3r5/calendar/15585521/
i was told about it, it says "invite" so i'm not sure if you can still enter. anyways, its about making connections. you can perform well in a tournament and chances are, someone might be there with connections within the pro community (daynine, hd, husky or some other known person in the sc2 community that has ties deeper into the pro scene). this will help with your game as you can practice with top tier players more often. talk whatnot and make more connections. from there if you perform like a pro, you will be noticed and have a chance to be invited to a tournament(s).
you can also do online tournaments just to get your name out and be noticed.
if you really want to do it, do it, no one can stop you. i've tried with cs and called it quits after failing to enter into cal-i for two seasons. it can't happen to everyone that tries but you'll never know until you try.
of course, this is after all the improvements you need.
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ur not going pro, you suck
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if you are really dedicated, no one can stop you.
i would really recommend testing yourself before you truly decide. From your profile, your win rate isn't very impressive, no offense.
Noone is stopping you (maybe except for your parents?) and I really want to wish you a good luck as I'm in same age range as you.
Back to the point, you probably have to get noticed by teams. I guess this can happen by winning tournaments and being clanless at the top of the ladder. Maybe you can win one of the TL Opens? or craft cup?
If you really want to make money out of the game, then Korea would probably be the best choice.
If I'm not being productive (which im sure im not), I'm sry but i just want to give you best wishes and gl in the future.
Like day9 in his #100 daily, as long as u love something and ur happy, thats good for u and the rest of the world.
^too f*cking corny but w/e
anyway GL and HF
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