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On November 13 2010 22:10 bokeevboke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 22:09 butchji wrote:On November 13 2010 22:07 Durp wrote:On November 13 2010 21:53 Xavv wrote:On November 13 2010 21:49 butchji wrote:Sad thing is he most likely indeed is wasting his life. (Working for GOM won't pay the bills forever, eh?  Also what will ZergBong do? (Dunno maybe he has a Doctor of Medicine or smth) He has barely any time left being a progamer and you can't live with that 80K $ forever. How can you say he has barely any time left being a progamer? Thats a ridiculous statement. He's just won nearly $87,000 US dollars, while not a profound amount of money it is indeed life changing and that's for sure. Not to mention the fact that this isn't some bi-annual gig that he has to wait around for now. He is S-Class and auto qualified for future events after the GSL Season 3 and this is a prize he could win again or even multiple times. He's 29, Starcraft 2 is so new he could EASILY be doing this for the next 6 years or more. I wish people would quit with the age bullshit, there isn't a point in your life where you wake up and *POOF*; all the skills you have practiced to gain and develop for years of your life are magically gone and you are suddon a noob. Stop being so close minded. RE: White-Ra Amen! You would still entitle White-Ra as a successful progamer? :o At least he is top protoss on EU ladder and top4 at blizzcon. Has any other EU protoss win anything?
Socke performs very well atm.
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On November 13 2010 21:55 butchji wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 21:53 DminusTerran wrote:On November 13 2010 21:49 butchji wrote:Sad thing is he most likely indeed is wasting his life. (Working for GOM won't pay the bills forever, eh? Also what will ZergBong do? (Dunno maybe he has a Doctor of Medicine or smth) He has barely any time left being a progamer and you can't live with that 80K $ forever. So you definition of wasted life is anyone who doesn't have their PHD, lol ok bro. That's just how the world rolls, "bro". Maybe he thinks he wasted his life when he is an unemployed 50yo, maybe it all worked out just fine. I don't know.
closed-minded troll detected.
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On November 13 2010 21:53 Xavv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 21:49 butchji wrote:Sad thing is he most likely indeed is wasting his life. (Working for GOM won't pay the bills forever, eh? Also what will ZergBong do? (Dunno maybe he has a Doctor of Medicine or smth) He has barely any time left being a progamer and you can't live with that 80K $ forever. How can you say he has barely any time left being a progamer? Thats a ridiculous statement. He's just won nearly $87,000 US dollars, while not a profound amount of money it is indeed life changing and that's for sure. Not to mention the fact that this isn't some bi-annual gig that he has to wait around for now. He is S-Class and auto qualified for future events after the GSL Season 3 and this is a prize he could win again or even multiple times. He's 29, Starcraft 2 is so new he could EASILY be doing this for the next 6 years or more. I wish people would quit with the age bullshit, there isn't a point in your life where you wake up and *POOF*; all the skills you have practiced to gain and develop for years of your life are magically gone and you are suddon a noob. Stop being so close minded.
Apart from winning a tournament, most teams (STARTALE  ) are supported by sponsors, which give them a stable income.
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QFT. We all get your point Butchji, but there really is not much of a purpose coming in here and trying to bash everybody who doesn't share your view on things...
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On November 13 2010 22:12 DminusTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 22:09 butchji wrote:On November 13 2010 22:07 Durp wrote:On November 13 2010 21:53 Xavv wrote:On November 13 2010 21:49 butchji wrote:Sad thing is he most likely indeed is wasting his life. (Working for GOM won't pay the bills forever, eh? Also what will ZergBong do? (Dunno maybe he has a Doctor of Medicine or smth) He has barely any time left being a progamer and you can't live with that 80K $ forever. How can you say he has barely any time left being a progamer? Thats a ridiculous statement. He's just won nearly $87,000 US dollars, while not a profound amount of money it is indeed life changing and that's for sure. Not to mention the fact that this isn't some bi-annual gig that he has to wait around for now. He is S-Class and auto qualified for future events after the GSL Season 3 and this is a prize he could win again or even multiple times. He's 29, Starcraft 2 is so new he could EASILY be doing this for the next 6 years or more. I wish people would quit with the age bullshit, there isn't a point in your life where you wake up and *POOF*; all the skills you have practiced to gain and develop for years of your life are magically gone and you are suddon a noob. Stop being so close minded. RE: White-Ra Amen! You would still entitle White-Ra as a successful progamer? :o He's pretty famous /successful in the Ukraine yes. Not to mention elsewhere.
Yes, I know he writes for a magazine etc. and is famous. I meant achievement-wise.
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butchji, you seem to think that huge amounts of money automatically equals a good life. The whole point of John's speech was to encourage people to do what you really want to and not let the things "highly accepted by society" dictate the direction of your life. Seriously if you're rich and do something just for the sake of being rich and not because you believe in it you'll be pretty miserable anyhow.
I'd much rather be poor and be proud of what I'm doing than trying to achieve some superior position among other people just for the sake of having a shitload of money. Spending money can only do so much for you. If you don't agree with John's speech why do you post in a thread working as a tribute to it?
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It is no different than a person trying to become a professional sports player. Some people come out of school and drop right into the office world and that is what they do for life, others do "young persons" professions for some time and eventually move on.
If you are a smart, creative person who is honest and hard working you will find your way through life and be happier for it if you spent time "chasing your dream." Nothing is worse than hearing a 50 year old person talk about all the things they WISH they had done, and it is always the guy sitting in some massive house with his fancy degrees and 1.5 children and 2.5 cars that make those comments.
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On November 13 2010 22:14 butchji wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 22:12 DminusTerran wrote:On November 13 2010 22:09 butchji wrote:On November 13 2010 22:07 Durp wrote:On November 13 2010 21:53 Xavv wrote:On November 13 2010 21:49 butchji wrote:Sad thing is he most likely indeed is wasting his life. (Working for GOM won't pay the bills forever, eh? Also what will ZergBong do? (Dunno maybe he has a Doctor of Medicine or smth) He has barely any time left being a progamer and you can't live with that 80K $ forever. How can you say he has barely any time left being a progamer? Thats a ridiculous statement. He's just won nearly $87,000 US dollars, while not a profound amount of money it is indeed life changing and that's for sure. Not to mention the fact that this isn't some bi-annual gig that he has to wait around for now. He is S-Class and auto qualified for future events after the GSL Season 3 and this is a prize he could win again or even multiple times. He's 29, Starcraft 2 is so new he could EASILY be doing this for the next 6 years or more. I wish people would quit with the age bullshit, there isn't a point in your life where you wake up and *POOF*; all the skills you have practiced to gain and develop for years of your life are magically gone and you are suddon a noob. Stop being so close minded. RE: White-Ra Amen! You would still entitle White-Ra as a successful progamer? :o He's pretty famous /successful in the Ukraine yes. Not to mention elsewhere. Yes, I know he writes for a magazine etc. and is famous. I meant achievement-wise.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/White-Ra
SC1 achivements
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On November 13 2010 21:59 Silidons wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 21:53 Seriouslylol wrote:On November 13 2010 21:49 butchji wrote:Sad thing is he most likely indeed is wasting his life. (Working for GOM won't pay the bills forever, eh? Also what will ZergBong do? (Dunno maybe he has a Doctor of Medicine or smth) He has barely any time left being a progamer and you can't live with that 80K $ forever. You need a Doctor of Medicine just to pay the bills? If you do what you love, and can live from it, then that's what its all about, basically what the speech was saying, but you obviously missed that. how expensive is it to live in korea? it can't be as bad as here in the US... i bet $80k goes a long way.
its not as bad as the US but the job salary is pretty low.
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On November 13 2010 22:14 Kawamura wrote:
butchji, you seem to think that huge amounts of money equals a good life. The whole point of John's speech was to encourage people to do what you really want to and not let the things "highly accepted by society" dictate the direction of your life. Seriously if you're rich and do something just for the sake of being rich and not because you believe in it you'll be pretty miserable anyhow.
I'd much rather be poor and be proud of what I'm doing than trying to achieve some superior position among other people just for the sake of having a shitload of money. Spending money can only do so much for you. If you don't agree with John's speech why do you post in a thread working as a tribute to it?
I know. Actually I love eSports, too. And I know (almost) every artist, musician, athlete took a risk by not getting a 9to5 office job. Just saying it's maybe a rosy nice motivational speech. But way to one sided. Just listening to him made that clear. (Was unemployed for 1.5 years and now I work for GOM, yeah!)
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On November 13 2010 22:14 butchji wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 22:12 DminusTerran wrote:On November 13 2010 22:09 butchji wrote:On November 13 2010 22:07 Durp wrote:On November 13 2010 21:53 Xavv wrote:On November 13 2010 21:49 butchji wrote:Sad thing is he most likely indeed is wasting his life. (Working for GOM won't pay the bills forever, eh? Also what will ZergBong do? (Dunno maybe he has a Doctor of Medicine or smth) He has barely any time left being a progamer and you can't live with that 80K $ forever. How can you say he has barely any time left being a progamer? Thats a ridiculous statement. He's just won nearly $87,000 US dollars, while not a profound amount of money it is indeed life changing and that's for sure. Not to mention the fact that this isn't some bi-annual gig that he has to wait around for now. He is S-Class and auto qualified for future events after the GSL Season 3 and this is a prize he could win again or even multiple times. He's 29, Starcraft 2 is so new he could EASILY be doing this for the next 6 years or more. I wish people would quit with the age bullshit, there isn't a point in your life where you wake up and *POOF*; all the skills you have practiced to gain and develop for years of your life are magically gone and you are suddon a noob. Stop being so close minded. RE: White-Ra Amen! You would still entitle White-Ra as a successful progamer? :o He's pretty famous /successful in the Ukraine yes. Not to mention elsewhere. Yes, I know he writes for a magazine etc. and is famous. I meant achievement-wise.
Bronze medal at Blizzcon, less than a month ago.
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On November 13 2010 22:18 Bswhunter wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 22:14 butchji wrote:On November 13 2010 22:12 DminusTerran wrote:On November 13 2010 22:09 butchji wrote:On November 13 2010 22:07 Durp wrote:On November 13 2010 21:53 Xavv wrote:On November 13 2010 21:49 butchji wrote:Sad thing is he most likely indeed is wasting his life. (Working for GOM won't pay the bills forever, eh? Also what will ZergBong do? (Dunno maybe he has a Doctor of Medicine or smth) He has barely any time left being a progamer and you can't live with that 80K $ forever. How can you say he has barely any time left being a progamer? Thats a ridiculous statement. He's just won nearly $87,000 US dollars, while not a profound amount of money it is indeed life changing and that's for sure. Not to mention the fact that this isn't some bi-annual gig that he has to wait around for now. He is S-Class and auto qualified for future events after the GSL Season 3 and this is a prize he could win again or even multiple times. He's 29, Starcraft 2 is so new he could EASILY be doing this for the next 6 years or more. I wish people would quit with the age bullshit, there isn't a point in your life where you wake up and *POOF*; all the skills you have practiced to gain and develop for years of your life are magically gone and you are suddon a noob. Stop being so close minded. RE: White-Ra Amen! You would still entitle White-Ra as a successful progamer? :o He's pretty famous /successful in the Ukraine yes. Not to mention elsewhere. Yes, I know he writes for a magazine etc. and is famous. I meant achievement-wise. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/White-RaSC1 achivements
That's the past, my friend. 
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The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.
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On November 13 2010 22:19 butchji wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 22:18 Bswhunter wrote:On November 13 2010 22:14 butchji wrote:On November 13 2010 22:12 DminusTerran wrote:On November 13 2010 22:09 butchji wrote:On November 13 2010 22:07 Durp wrote:On November 13 2010 21:53 Xavv wrote:On November 13 2010 21:49 butchji wrote:Sad thing is he most likely indeed is wasting his life. (Working for GOM won't pay the bills forever, eh? Also what will ZergBong do? (Dunno maybe he has a Doctor of Medicine or smth) He has barely any time left being a progamer and you can't live with that 80K $ forever. How can you say he has barely any time left being a progamer? Thats a ridiculous statement. He's just won nearly $87,000 US dollars, while not a profound amount of money it is indeed life changing and that's for sure. Not to mention the fact that this isn't some bi-annual gig that he has to wait around for now. He is S-Class and auto qualified for future events after the GSL Season 3 and this is a prize he could win again or even multiple times. He's 29, Starcraft 2 is so new he could EASILY be doing this for the next 6 years or more. I wish people would quit with the age bullshit, there isn't a point in your life where you wake up and *POOF*; all the skills you have practiced to gain and develop for years of your life are magically gone and you are suddon a noob. Stop being so close minded. RE: White-Ra Amen! You would still entitle White-Ra as a successful progamer? :o He's pretty famous /successful in the Ukraine yes. Not to mention elsewhere. Yes, I know he writes for a magazine etc. and is famous. I meant achievement-wise. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/White-RaSC1 achivements That's the past, my friend.
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/rankings/7061 and that is the present, my friend
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too much love 4 junkka , Im really looking for this speech as well.
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" I'm gonna be talking my own things now as there isn't anything important to translate.
First of all I'd like to say I have a great respect for NesTea not just because he won the tournament but because this guy had the courage to do what he wanted to do and proved he was right.I'm saying this because too many people even in Korea consider playing games is a waste of time.I, myself, was unemployed for 2 years *laughs*, bout a year and a half before I joined GOM.All I did was play games at home and my friends would say that I'm wasting my life.Well...uhm..who's laughing now ?. I asked them " Can you honestly say that you like your job " and I asked them " Do you have a fan who draws a fanart just for you ? ". That shuts them up.
So everytime you feel ashamed of being a nerd and your friends, teachers, neighbours and even parents think gaming is a waste of time you'll remember there's no such thing as wasting life as long as you have the courage to do what you like and be passionate about it.You'll remember , if NesTea listened to all those critics he wouldn't be standing there with a trophy and you'll remember that even if you feel nobody around you supports you that I, Jay, Artosis and Tasteless, everyone in GOM will support you.Why ? Because we believe in esports. *someone in the backgroud :"wow" * *Junkka laughs* .I actually prepared this"
Sorry if I butchered any words.
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As soon as the prize ceremony videos go up I'll try and put up a transcript. Not sure about video tho...copyright ftl =/
Edit: There we got
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On November 13 2010 22:19 butchji wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 22:18 Bswhunter wrote:On November 13 2010 22:14 butchji wrote:On November 13 2010 22:12 DminusTerran wrote:On November 13 2010 22:09 butchji wrote:On November 13 2010 22:07 Durp wrote:On November 13 2010 21:53 Xavv wrote:On November 13 2010 21:49 butchji wrote:Sad thing is he most likely indeed is wasting his life. (Working for GOM won't pay the bills forever, eh? Also what will ZergBong do? (Dunno maybe he has a Doctor of Medicine or smth) He has barely any time left being a progamer and you can't live with that 80K $ forever. How can you say he has barely any time left being a progamer? Thats a ridiculous statement. He's just won nearly $87,000 US dollars, while not a profound amount of money it is indeed life changing and that's for sure. Not to mention the fact that this isn't some bi-annual gig that he has to wait around for now. He is S-Class and auto qualified for future events after the GSL Season 3 and this is a prize he could win again or even multiple times. He's 29, Starcraft 2 is so new he could EASILY be doing this for the next 6 years or more. I wish people would quit with the age bullshit, there isn't a point in your life where you wake up and *POOF*; all the skills you have practiced to gain and develop for years of your life are magically gone and you are suddon a noob. Stop being so close minded. RE: White-Ra Amen! You would still entitle White-Ra as a successful progamer? :o He's pretty famous /successful in the Ukraine yes. Not to mention elsewhere. Yes, I know he writes for a magazine etc. and is famous. I meant achievement-wise. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/White-RaSC1 achivements That's the past, my friend.
Nontheless he has accomplished more than you in the past and will continue to do so in the future, now if you're done trolling or just being a downright dbag, please go away you're ruining a awesome john thread, doctor of medicine.
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