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On October 21 2010 08:42 StarBrift wrote: I can't stand that fake sensationalist caster voice that so many people do. But that's my only beef with him. He didn't overstep his knowledge and did fine with Idra.
funny, but that's exactly what i love about the Korean casters. i was half asleep at 4am waiting for Lyn's games but Jason Lee kept me interested in the other games. He reminded me a lot of a great baseball radio commentator. Also keep in mind that they were going off of the Korean Observer and were completely reactive to this. people say youtube casters do it all the time with BW tourney VODs, but he's doing it live to a huge audience for a major tournament. he's totally pro.
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Fire Tasteless, Hire David Lee.
Tasteless has lost the fire he had for SC2, his sloppy casting is the second worst part of the GSL. (The first would be the scrub matches they had on Day 2 and Day 3).
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I made a very comprehensive post earlier today on the GOM forums detailing the reasons why Jason Lee exceeds Tasteless and Artosis as individual casters. I also present my case for the improvement of the english cast, what Tastosis can realistically do to improve, as well as providing positive reinforcement for what they've currently been able to achieve.
If anyone wants to take a look at it, maybe help them see it, the link is http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens2/forum/4724
<3
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I Liked him with Idra even he didn't knew what he was talking about sometimes...
but Jorgen... omg... that was painful...
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There's just something about the way he talks that bothers me. I guess it's his voice but it feels unfair to criticize something he can't change. Either way I think he did (is doing) a pretty good job filling in for Tastosis.
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Overall pretty good, but definitely a few blunders in there, e.g. not knowing about bunker salvage and insisting the player destroyed his own bunkers.
He worked well with Idra because Idra wasn't afraid to correct him and point out things, his game knowledge hurt him a lot more when he was casting with Jorgen because Jorgan wasn't always willing to step in when Jason was out of his depth.
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There were a ton of times I was like "MINIMAP OVER THERE. LOOK. THING. ARGH. And they finally look, and I have no idea what I missed, other than a drop getting repelled (but how much damage did it do!?) or Legalmind losing ANOTHER phoenix to sloppy play (i saw the shrapnel) and the casters saying "oh that didnt really do much damage the stalkers repelled the mutas"
mutter mutter.
But overall, they were pretty good. Especially idra+Jason!
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Jason Lee and IdrA were an awesome casting duo!
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I really liked Jason's voice and his commentary overall. He may not be the best when it comes to analyzing, but he gives the commentary a good flow and would do a lot better with better cocasters.
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On October 21 2010 09:13 sylverfyre wrote: There were a ton of times I was like "MINIMAP OVER THERE. LOOK. THING. ARGH. And they finally look, and I have no idea what I missed, other than a drop getting repelled (but how much damage did it do!?) or Legalmind losing ANOTHER phoenix to sloppy play (i saw the shrapnel) and the casters saying "oh that didnt really do much damage the stalkers repelled the mutas"
mutter mutter.
But overall, they were pretty good. Especially idra+Jason!
you realize they were going off the korean comentators camera right?, I don't think jason has enough experience as to know what to watch, but that is why
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He doesn't know jack about SC2 and that makes him look really bad. As for being prof or voice he did great but that doesn't matter, what matters is understanding the game. He also took a big shot at IdrA which kind of seemed out of place although it was funny.
At one point in one of the last games he was just screaming for like 45sec+ and it was really awkward.
Overall sorry but unless he actually learns the game and knows what is happening then I can't say he should cast SC2.
IdrA on the other hand was actually super interesting and made so many good points, although he wasn't exciting and more logical/analytical sort of like Artosis but even more so. Same for the other guy. They are good at analyzing but not good for entertaining.
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Was pretty surprised by his voice. :o
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Just watched idra vs jason
Gotta say, its pretty awesome to have idra out there, i always value his knowledge as its... just correct? lol
I hate misinformation so its great to have idra up
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Jason Lee and Idra had a great dynamic because Jason did the excitement and Idra did the analysis. Jorgen and Jason I thought was not as great as Jason and Idra.
My favorite moment of the night was when Jason was talking about the "bad boy" of e-sports that everybody loves to hate, and Idra had a banana grin on, but didn't say anything. So hilarious.
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On October 21 2010 09:10 KingRajesh wrote: Fire Tasteless, Hire David Lee.
Tasteless has lost the fire he had for SC2, his sloppy casting is the second worst part of the GSL. (The first would be the scrub matches they had on Day 2 and Day 3).
Tasteless may be sloppy but at least he knows what is going on. The audience for SC2 is mainly younger people so a lot of his slipups and weak points are tolerable or overlooked. Plus Artosis and him make a stronger whole than the parts which is really fun and interesting.
It might be a good idea to make Tasteless try by saying "we might hire this guy" but even if they are about the same the combo with Artosis makes them that much better.
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He's a great caster, despite his game knowledge, so Idra balanced him out very nicely. The other guy on the other hand was just awful, mumbling all the time and barely even talking most of the time.
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Tastosis are great because they play off each other's comments, whereas GrackLee had very clear cut roles. I guess it's up to personal preference which you prefer, but I personally love the antics that Tastosis bring to the table.
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On October 21 2010 09:20 blitzkrieger wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2010 09:10 KingRajesh wrote: Fire Tasteless, Hire David Lee.
Tasteless has lost the fire he had for SC2, his sloppy casting is the second worst part of the GSL. (The first would be the scrub matches they had on Day 2 and Day 3). Tasteless may be sloppy but at least he knows what is going on. The audience for SC2 is mainly younger people so a lot of his slipups and weak points are tolerable or overlooked. Plus Artosis and him make a stronger whole than the parts which is really fun and interesting. It might be a good idea to make Tasteless try by saying "we might hire this guy" but even if they are about the same the combo with Artosis makes them that much better.
There are good reasons for Tastosis to stay together, and it all has to do with the achievement of long-term solid casting. Look for my link higher up on the page, you'll find answers to your doubts about his abilities there.
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butter on the bread for the last interview where check was like 'wuhhh?' and jason whipped out his own korean translation to show up the actual translator LOL
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