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Osaka27149 Posts
I don't really know the history, but why were the original BW female leagues abolished in Korea? It always seemed like a good idea to me, but they only ran for like two seasons and then got stopped. Perhaps some older TL member can enlighten me. Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure it was a ratings issue. That, and the fact that TossGirl beat everyone so badly. | ||
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ccdnl
United States611 Posts
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
On October 15 2010 09:21 anTi_ wrote: Here is a video of her BMXing, she has other videos as well on her page. Good interview and it's always nice to see a cute girl taking up our nerdy obsession. thanks... pretty underwhelmed lol :V i guess she's not a professional though..? is she a semifamous model or anything i wonder? | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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Aprikosen
Sweden53 Posts
On October 15 2010 09:19 FuRong wrote: It seems paradoxical that we always complain that there aren't enough girls involved in gaming, but at the same time nobody is willing to support tournaments for them... What the frack are you talking about, I haven't seen a single tournament prohibiting women from participating. I don't understand why being a minority warrants special treatment. What's the point? User was warned for this post "What the fuck are you talking about" is not necessary to make a point. | ||
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PineappleSage
Canada109 Posts
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gillon
Sweden1578 Posts
On October 15 2010 09:34 Aprikosen wrote: What the fuck are you talking about, I haven't seen a single tournament prohibiting women from participating. I don't understand why being a minority warrants special treatment. What's the point? This. I mean, I'm all for everyone being able to play, but I don't see why they should have their own leagues. I mean, is there some inherent disadvantage they have concerning gaming or something? Am I missing something obvious? | ||
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
On October 15 2010 09:40 brendan.zerg116109 wrote: i wonder if girls should have there own tourneys or like poker be in the same ones as men. I hope one day there will be televised e-sports daily of men and women, and Day9, to cast it like a d9d. I saw an interview clip with a pro female Poker player and she said that the one thing she liked about Poker was that it's a 100% even playing table between men and women, as is SC2, so there should be no league separation. That is, unless of course someone wants to make the argument that females are cognitively disadvantaged at what SC or poker requires, which I sometimes wonder about (in respect to SC) in a sincerely nonsexist opinion. I never followed brood war, but at least since WC3 I don't think I've ever heard of a pretty pro RTS player who was female. Is it because they're disinterested? That's at least why there's so few of them -- but for the ones who do play... anyway, it's just something I think about from time to time. i've read theories that sc2 is too logical/experience based and women are more inclined to intuition and socialness, but yeah. perhaps off-topic? | ||
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Nightfall.589
Canada766 Posts
This. I mean, I'm all for everyone being able to play, but I don't see why they should have their own leagues. I mean, is there some inherent disadvantage they have concerning gaming or something? Women don't need their own leagues. What they also don't need, is whenever there's a thread about a woman playing SC, 50% of the responses to be aimed at discussing how hot they are or aren't. | ||
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huameng
United States1133 Posts
Also, there are ladies only poker tournaments >_> | ||
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
Pretty cool interview though, I dig it that she's into such a wide variety of things. Modeling, BMXing and pro-gaming... that's pretty damned impressive. | ||
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ddrddrddrddr
1344 Posts
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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Dugrok
Canada377 Posts
The only thing that I found a little strange was that they are dividing male and female gamers. I don't see what the point is. I mean, in physical sports, ok. But in eSports... huh? Personally, I'd rather see guys and girls treated as equals from the get-go in eSports because it would entice more women to get involved. While they may be a minority in eSports because of social stigma associated to gaming, it's irrelevant because it shouldn't affect their level of play. They're just as capable as men of playing games and I personally think it would be an insult to women to segregate the two. | ||
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Raidern
Brazil3811 Posts
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SexyBimbo
Germany89 Posts
As to the interview: In my opinion it was well done, I liked the questions, setting, quality and you had an interesting interviewee. I do wonder, how successful she is at all she's doing, seems like she has a lot of stuff do learn and practice; I assume she will not excel at any one discipline in the end. And most importantly: How good is she at SC2? Does anybody know where I can get a replay of hers? # Ehm... is this her? Because if it IS, then I'd consider her a nice girl who can is good at a lot of things; SC2 not being one of them. ^^ I do of course give her the benefit of the doubt and expect the person in the linked video to be a random protoss who just by sheer chance happens to go by the same name. SB | ||
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Onlinejaguar
Australia2823 Posts
On October 15 2010 08:19 Kazang wrote: First thing I thought was "not this dumbass from the IEM Cologne" but it's actually a good interview, you are clearly a lot better when speaking in german than english. Interesting interview and it's good to get more girls involved in general but I can't see how good she is going to be when spreading herself over so many different activities, since starcraft is a game that really does hinge on the amount of practice you do. By the sounds of it she wants to get a female scene for SC2 happening and not really compete with the guys. I could be wrong. Considering the very small numbers she wouldn't need a ton of practice time to compete. Edit: ok forget that, after watching a replay of hers she is awful at SC2. | ||
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CruelZeratul
Germany4588 Posts
http://www.esl.eu/eu/female/download/23243425/ Those are replays of her playing and she is actually not good, but I think thats kind of not important here. | ||
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Masq
Canada1792 Posts
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
On October 15 2010 09:55 Dugrok wrote: It's taken way too long for women's sports to be taken seriously (even today, you can hardly say that they are). Maybe eSports is a way for them to be equals off the starting line because physical strength is less of a factor. The only thing that I found a little strange was that they are dividing male and female gamers. I don't see what the point is. I mean, in physical sports, ok. But in eSports... huh? Personally, I'd rather see guys and girls treated as equals from the get-go in eSports because it would entice more women to get involved. While they may be a minority in eSports because of social stigma associated to gaming, it's irrelevant because it shouldn't affect their level of play. They're just as capable as men of playing games and I personally think it would be an insult to women to segregate the two. I'm not trying to pick on you by any means by quoting your post, I think you just very eloqurently summed up what many people feel should happen (including myself) with women in esports. The fact of the matter though, is that there simply aren't as many women playing videogames. I think, for whatever reason, women do not have the gene men have that makes us love videogames, which means that there will be a lower level of skill because of the numbers who will compete. It was also mentioned earlier that women are turned off by the immaturity regarding them as part of the community, because of all the "TITS OR GTFO" crap. anyway, the point of my post are that women are just as capable, if given the practice, as men. just look at  ToSsGirL, who could beat anyone in BW in the foreign community, and LenaPark, who regularly takes games off of top SC2 players such as CellaWerra, Top, TheStC, Zenio, and IntoTheRainbow. | ||
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