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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
October 09 2010 17:56 GMT
#481
On October 10 2010 01:28 liaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 07:40 Tha_Docta wrote:
On October 09 2010 01:44 SpaceYeti wrote:

EDIT: I'll forgo lunch one day and contribute 5$ to this match (I know, tons of $$$$$). If enough people contribute, it could make this pretty interesting. xD


IdrA said that if he switched it would be to protoss, not terran.


I guess he has too much self respect for Terran
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
October 09 2010 18:12 GMT
#482
On October 10 2010 02:32 Zyphen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 02:27 bLuR wrote:
Remember when MorroW beat IdrA in the finals at IEM? Good Times! Still an IdrA fan though


Why? Well, what if Morrow actually gets good with zerg putting in 1/4 of the hours Idra does? Gonna make him look pretty stupid...


Won't happen.
wat
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
October 09 2010 22:49 GMT
#483
Idra isn't attacking Morrow, he is pointing out that zerg is just so much harder that you can't switch from the other races to it and be competitive with your same skill set. This is in line with Morrow saying that he is playing zerg because it is so much harder.

Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Dirich
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-09 23:56:46
October 09 2010 23:53 GMT
#484
On October 10 2010 07:49 rastaban wrote:
Idra isn't attacking Morrow, he is pointing out that zerg is just so much harder that you can't switch from the other races to it and be competitive with your same skill set. This is in line with Morrow saying that he is playing zerg because it is so much harder.



What IdrA wrote may indeed mean that. BUT, the way he wrote it hint at different interpretation:

"you people realize hes a 1400 zerg on europe, and still falling, after more than a week of practice, right?"

"still" implies that 1400 is failing at playing (of course it could instead imply that Morrow is failing at getting better)
Then follows a time statement, which can serve no point other than showing an expectation that, by that time, someone should be able to do better (otherwise it is just a statement that gives an information which serves no purpose - aka fail at communication because it become a misleading information).

Thus, as I already wrote, what you said IS a possible interpretation, and is probably IdrA's opinion about the Z vs other races playing difficulty, BUT the "attack" interpretation is very possible too ("still failing") and is a more direct interpretation of what he wrote.

Considering the background of IdrA vs Morrowit kind of seems the most likely one. Also, there are many other possible ways to write what you say IdrA meant, and amongst them IdrA chose one which is much more easyly read as an attack. Maybe he was indeed attacking Morrow?
And if he wasn't he defenetly is really bad with words and does not choose them very carefully.
And I won't even start trying to think about his subconscious coming out in those words, as another possible way to try to understand the precise choice of words.


TL;DR: Occam's Razor anyone?
Zyphen
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 00:20:48
October 10 2010 00:18 GMT
#485
I can't believe you guys are parsing his statements so carefully. Really? It's not completely apparent to you what he means? Really? He's not doing physics here. The way he posts is no matter tactful or subtle than 99% of the population. His rage statements are similar to the ones you've heard multiple times when you beat someone online. Look at his post history when talking about Morrow. Look at their replays. It's clear as day what he means to anyone but his fanboys. He's attacked Morrow multiple times already. What makes his last 2 statements different?
Fanek
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland344 Posts
October 10 2010 00:37 GMT
#486
and Morrow come back to play terran like I see..
hello
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
October 10 2010 00:42 GMT
#487
On October 10 2010 07:49 rastaban wrote:
Idra isn't attacking Morrow, he is pointing out that zerg is just so much harder that you can't switch from the other races to it and be competitive with your same skill set. This is in line with Morrow saying that he is playing zerg because it is so much harder.


No....Idra just generally hates morrow
Teken
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom35 Posts
October 10 2010 00:42 GMT
#488
On October 09 2010 01:44 SpaceYeti wrote:
Wow! IdrA (T) vs MorroW (Z). I would love to see this. Grudge match and what not aside (I don't really care about that), I think it would be a very educational match to watch.

And as much as I respect you MorroW for (1) playing Zerg on your main account whilst letting your rating tank, (2) providing such a valuable resource for lower level Zergs to learn the play better, (3) and also openly acknowledging Terran imba, as a Terran player....I have to root for IdrA.

Then again....he will be playing Terran. :-/

Poll: IdrA (T) vs MorroW (Z) - Bo5

3-0, IdrA wins (183)
 
62%

0-3, MorroW wins (38)
 
13%

3-1, IdrA wins (35)
 
12%

2-3, MorroW wins (22)
 
7%

1-3, MorroW wins (11)
 
4%

3-2, IdrA wins (7)
 
2%

296 total votes

Your vote: IdrA (T) vs MorroW (Z) - Bo5

(Vote): 3-0, IdrA wins
(Vote): 3-1, IdrA wins
(Vote): 3-2, IdrA wins
(Vote): 2-3, MorroW wins
(Vote): 1-3, MorroW wins
(Vote): 0-3, MorroW wins



IdrA, 3-0! IdrA hwaiting!

EDIT: I'll forgo lunch one day and contribute 5$ to this match (I know, tons of $$$$$). If enough people contribute, it could make this pretty interesting. xD




heh i saw couple of people also wating to "pay'' for a show match

i can throw 10$


if there is more people lets send the cash for one of the TL staff and lets do it :D



olny IF idra and morrow respond


Will u play this kind of game ?

T(idra) Z(marrow)
do whatever its takes to be the best
corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
October 10 2010 00:43 GMT
#489
On October 10 2010 08:53 Dirich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 07:49 rastaban wrote:
Idra isn't attacking Morrow, he is pointing out that zerg is just so much harder that you can't switch from the other races to it and be competitive with your same skill set. This is in line with Morrow saying that he is playing zerg because it is so much harder.



What IdrA wrote may indeed mean that. BUT, the way he wrote it hint at different interpretation:

"you people realize hes a 1400 zerg on europe, and still falling, after more than a week of practice, right?"

"still" implies that 1400 is failing at playing (of course it could instead imply that Morrow is failing at getting better)
Then follows a time statement, which can serve no point other than showing an expectation that, by that time, someone should be able to do better (otherwise it is just a statement that gives an information which serves no purpose - aka fail at communication because it become a misleading information).

Thus, as I already wrote, what you said IS a possible interpretation, and is probably IdrA's opinion about the Z vs other races playing difficulty, BUT the "attack" interpretation is very possible too ("still failing") and is a more direct interpretation of what he wrote.

Considering the background of IdrA vs Morrowit kind of seems the most likely one. Also, there are many other possible ways to write what you say IdrA meant, and amongst them IdrA chose one which is much more easyly read as an attack. Maybe he was indeed attacking Morrow?
And if he wasn't he defenetly is really bad with words and does not choose them very carefully.
And I won't even start trying to think about his subconscious coming out in those words, as another possible way to try to understand the precise choice of words.


TL;DR: Occam's Razor anyone?


he said FALLING, not FAILING. subtle difference
http://www.twitch.tv/corpsep0se
Xax
Profile Joined December 2003
475 Posts
October 10 2010 01:07 GMT
#490
it's so funny how idra is complaining about the netcode but cellawerra is the #1 zerg on the NA server....
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 01:17:40
October 10 2010 01:16 GMT
#491
On October 10 2010 10:07 Xax wrote:
it's so funny how idra is complaining about the netcode but cellawerra is the #1 zerg on the NA server....

well, so what? cella plays a ton of games and alot of Z's on NA don't ladder like crazy or don't play that well. it's not difficult to become #1 zerg on NA compared to korea SEA europe. cella also plays lower quality opponents than morrow, and so latency issues are not as big of a deal, also idras internet may not be up to snuff compared to cellas there are alot of reasons for the shitty latency that Bnet gives.

EDIT: just because cella is used to bad latency doesn't mean idra is.
MythicalMage
Profile Joined May 2010
1360 Posts
October 10 2010 02:09 GMT
#492
On October 10 2010 10:16 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 10:07 Xax wrote:
it's so funny how idra is complaining about the netcode but cellawerra is the #1 zerg on the NA server....

well, so what? cella plays a ton of games and alot of Z's on NA don't ladder like crazy or don't play that well. it's not difficult to become #1 zerg on NA compared to korea SEA europe. cella also plays lower quality opponents than morrow, and so latency issues are not as big of a deal, also idras internet may not be up to snuff compared to cellas there are alot of reasons for the shitty latency that Bnet gives.

EDIT: just because cella is used to bad latency doesn't mean idra is.

That is a good point. IdrA has a BW background where he is used to lag latency, in other words, no lag at all. However, Cella has a WC3 background, irrc, so micro should be his strong suit, and theoretically, lag would effect him more than the macro IdrA.
shtdisturbance
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada613 Posts
October 10 2010 02:27 GMT
#493
i would pitch for the match
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
October 10 2010 03:13 GMT
#494
MorroW can actually see the future...he dreamed about the next patch and decided to get moving
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
October 10 2010 14:50 GMT
#495
MorroW has given up. Look at his match history. He's only playing Terran because he knew that switching to Zerg would destroy his career. I'm glad he's finally come around and realised it now.
bLah.
Profile Joined July 2009
Croatia497 Posts
October 10 2010 14:57 GMT
#496
On October 10 2010 23:50 Fantistic wrote:
MorroW has given up. Look at his match history. He's only playing Terran because he knew that switching to Zerg would destroy his career. I'm glad he's finally come around and realised it now.

go troll somewhere else, he wrote in last update:
"gonna play terran fulltime for 1-3 weeks to wrap up my last going tournaments with hopefully nice results. i have decided to switch to zerg so i will stop sign up for new tournaments until i am at least 2k rating with zerg.
once i finish these ongoing tournaments i will start practice zerg with all my practice time"
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
October 10 2010 14:57 GMT
#497
On October 10 2010 23:50 Fantistic wrote:
MorroW has given up. Look at his match history. He's only playing Terran because he knew that switching to Zerg would destroy his career. I'm glad he's finally come around and realised it now.

Read the updates.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
October 10 2010 14:58 GMT
#498
Morrow will play terran for some tournaments and after that he will switch to zerg. Or at least OP says so.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Ozu
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden66 Posts
October 10 2010 15:00 GMT
#499
On October 10 2010 23:50 Fantistic wrote:
MorroW has given up. Look at his match history. He's only playing Terran because he knew that switching to Zerg would destroy his career. I'm glad he's finally come around and realised it now.


No.

6th October
gonna play terran fulltime for 1-3 weeks to wrap up my last going tournaments with hopefully nice results. i have decided to switch to zerg so i will stop sign up for new tournaments until i am at least 2k rating with zerg. once i finish these ongoing tournaments i will start practice zerg with all my practice time
Sobba
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden576 Posts
October 10 2010 16:10 GMT
#500
I really hope you become a fulltime zerg player. We need more pro Zerg players.
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