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Mod edit: a lot of people seem to be misunderstanding this thread. This only means these players are (supposedly) playing SC2, not that they're leaving BW or anything like that (it may be the case for some of them, but no one knows yet.)
I'm not sure if this has been posted here on TL yet but anyway...
iloveoov = iloveoov boxer = manofoneway
on the kr server of course
my source is one of the coaches of the NEX team and I was talking to him on msnger and wondered if he knew if those were just rumors and he laughed and said it's pretty much common knowledge (maybe only for the top players... I had no idea).
additional source: http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=2110274&search=3&search_pos=&q=&page=2
this link lists all the confirmed pro BW players who are playing SC2 (the number of games vary but a good portion of them have an impressive number of games and rank). To name some famous ones that ppl might not know
Kingdom = KingdomW Garimto = 가림토 Midas = Midas bluek, that guy that played the epic PvT vs Boxer on Paradoxx = 바나나 (banana) Daezang (also caster for GSL) = dzdzdz Silver = Silver Chrh = NEXKYumer
Additional pros I forgot about because I only checked for those confirmed with BNET id's attached:
Moon (from wc3) Effort (it's on the list of 'confirmed' but even the replies on playxp are asking for confirmation) mumyung lucifer (from wc3) Silent_Control stork[gm] shark[gm] Oversky (caster for GSL also) Lyn (from wc3)
sAviOr, ranked very high on the KR ladder is almost certainly an impostor.
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Wow this is awesome news, cannot wait to see how they do.
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now it's over for foreigners
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Pure Awesome, Cannot wait to see the Emperor destroy.
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Boxer is gonna out-TLO TLO
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soo, what races do they play? Hope Boxers gonna own with Zerg this time
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, anyway great news for SC2 fans. Kingdom is moving to SC2 as well. Does this mean he won't be commentating anymore?
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Can't wait for GSL season #2!
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On September 25 2010 21:50 Arakash wrote:soo, what races do they play? Hope Boxers gonna own with Zerg this time 
I'm pretty darn sure they're both Terrans, as they played T in BW - and of course given the state of SC2. Even Julyzerg is playing Terran if I'm right? So I'd assume alot of the big names coming over from BW will be Terran.
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On September 25 2010 21:50 Arakash wrote:soo, what races do they play? Hope Boxers gonna own with Zerg this time 
Terran most likely.
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wow, oov as well? fuuuuuuuuuuuu
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Additional pros I forgot about because I only checked for those confirmed with BNET id's attached:
Moon (from wc3) Effort (it's on the list of 'confirmed' but even the replies on playxp are asking for confirmation) mumyung lucifer (from wc3) Silent_Control stork[gm] shark[gm] Oversky (caster for GSL also) Lyn (from wc3)
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wow, nada, july, oov, and BOXER? fuck ya im going to start following sc2
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Boxer is playing with Terran ?! Nooooo !
Boxer terran, oov terran, nada terran, julyzerg terran...
All hope is lost for the other races.
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Boxer vs TLO!
*head explodes*
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My favourite bonjwa! Bus Driver terran hwaiting!
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Ofc we are hungry for replays now. I swear I saw a replay of Iloveoov but I cannot remember where I got it.
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No ways, I can't believe this.
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On September 25 2010 21:49 mierin wrote:Boxer is gonna out-TLO TLO 
i gotta say.. this is funny.. but yea seriously, im still a big TLO fan..
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Who manofoneway is like number 18 on the korean ladder and has a better win ration then every player above him. Does anyone know if they are interested in entering future gsl`s?
Also I thought that SKT was strongly against Blizzard and SC2 so I wounder if they´ll stay on their teams or leave to be able to play sc2.
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Then who is "ManofRain" ?? must be some1 as well
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Dang, that's one of a list. Any of them not playing T in SC2? lol
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wow... could we really have boxer vs july finals in gsl#2 ? crrrazy
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Just what terran needed t_t.. sigh
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holy molly!!
btw, stork[gm] = stork?
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I guess that this would be the time for all the not terrans pros to just switch to terran. Everybody from bw is playing terran in sc2.
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BTW, isnt Midas the captain ? how can he be allowed to play
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On September 25 2010 21:52 Heen wrote: Additional pros I forgot about because I only checked for those confirmed with BNET id's attached:
Moon (from wc3) Effort (it's on the list of 'confirmed' but even the replies on playxp are asking for confirmation) mumyung lucifer (from wc3) Silent_Control stork[gm] shark[gm] Oversky (caster for GSL also) Lyn (from wc3)
EFFORT AND STORK HOLY FRICKIN SHIT HEAD ASPLODES
TO HELL WITH TERRAN
just kidding, of course
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Crazy omfg. But nonetheless NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Terran OP going to a new scale. I can't believe it's really happening. GSL 2 is going to be epic.
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bluek is joyo as far as i can remember :D That guy is really old now ^^
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On September 25 2010 21:49 mierin wrote:Boxer is gonna out-TLO TLO 
TLO can take on the world.
Stork is not switching over,he's just passing time...so is Effort.
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holy shit that's a baller list
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lol i really hope stork is really coming to sc2. He'll probably be better than tester in like 2 weeks or something.
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somehow i don't believe that Stork is actually him. Would love to get a confirmation like the playxp people on Effort. :p
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Stork can't be transitioning to sc2. He recently renewed his contract with samsung khan. I doubt he'll be switching to sc2. It'll be awesome but I doubt it.
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Well, this thread is about to explode...
Chrh as well? What?! What's he been up to up until now?
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#4 on the KR ladder, "Flutter": this is IdrA, right? And BoxeR has a really good win percentage (if that's really him)
edit: just because they have accounts doesn't necessarily mean that every one of them is interested in playing professionally.
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Very excited to see so many top BW pros playing SC2.
Not very excited that they're all probably going to be playing Terran.
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CHRH :D
Where is Kong though?
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On September 25 2010 21:53 Ancient.eu wrote: Boxer is playing with Terran ?! Nooooo !
Boxer terran, oov terran, nada terran, julyzerg terran...
All hope is lost for the other races. Oh god ... BoxeR as Terran is already scary as hell but Terran in SC2? lol
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Effort will probably just play on the side since he can enter GSL with no pressure. He's recently said he doesn't plan on gaming as a career. Stork, on the other hand... can't wait to see what he's all about.
I think this is a sign the Brood War has been decided, and SC2 is taking over the media now (legally.)
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I hope Oov doesn't stop coaching SKT1 because of sc2
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Now I want a korean account to steal his builds. x_x
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If you're wondering how these converted players have high win %, they have been playing a lot longer than we would have thought apparently. And obviously, having mad good connections, they have the luxury of practicing with the top.
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btw Effort said he didn't want to go gaming path anymore, so I doubt it's true
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On September 25 2010 21:59 shannn wrote: Stork can't be transitioning to sc2. He recently renewed his contract with samsung khan. I doubt he'll be switching to sc2. It'll be awesome but I doubt it.
Yea it's just their ID for if they do play on battle.net, and for these still SC1 active pros SC2 should just be casual playing for them. EFFORT on the other hand retired, so let's just pray that he falls in love with SC2 and joins it or something haha.
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afaik effort said he quits bw but not for gaming career so i doubt he moved to sc2
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On September 25 2010 22:02 DarkspearTribe wrote: btw Effort said he didn't want to go gaming path anymore, so I doubt it's true
he's probably just playing for fun 
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On September 25 2010 21:53 Ancient.eu wrote: Boxer is playing with Terran ?! Nooooo !
Boxer terran, oov terran, nada terran, julyzerg terran...
All hope is lost for the other races.
I thought July playing terran is only a rumor...Its not confirmed,don't jump the gun.
plus that rumor was before patch 1.1...Its a huge difference.
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sssiiiiiicccccckkkkkkkk
Can't wait for first tourneys with them.
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LOL. NaDa, OOV, Boxer. SORRY ZERGS  this is insane, all my heroes playing sc2 <3
Edit: holy shit, Moon? my mind is exploding
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On September 25 2010 22:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 21:53 Ancient.eu wrote: Boxer is playing with Terran ?! Nooooo !
Boxer terran, oov terran, nada terran, julyzerg terran...
All hope is lost for the other races. I thought July playing terran is only a rumor...Its not confirmed,don't jump the gun.
It is. It came from the same thread where Cool were saying that he might change. That won't be happening anytime soon tho and i doubt July won't be changing till he is that desperate.
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Can that list actually be real? :o Didn't Stork just renew his contract and Effort said that he is NOT retiring because of sc2
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OMG, I want replays!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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WOW Lyn, LuCifer, Moon, oov and BoxeR - joining NaDa and July - it can't get any better!
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Boxer and iloveoov confirmation has seriously redoubled my will to improve in this game. Now I can say, with total confidence, that the only pros left that I'd really want to see on this list (no matter how impossible or unlikely) are ...
nal_ra, fantasy, and savior.
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Le Roi est mort, vive le Roi.
Sayonara Brood War...
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On September 25 2010 22:08 Piski wrote: Can that list actually be real? :o Didn't Stork just renew his contract and Effort said that he is NOT retiring because of sc2 As others said, they could jut be playing for fun. I mean, aren't Boxer and oov under contract too? Or do coaches?
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Manofoneway was on Gisado's stream recently.
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Before everyone becomes tooooo excited about the news, I think everyone needs to be reminded with this: Having ID/Account on SC2 is not equal to transitioning into SC2.
Unless there's some official announcement about switching, they may just play SC2 on their spare time when they don't have to practice. Maybe they just try the game for a couple of hundred games
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I really hope Stork is moving over to sc2, he alone got me hooked on bw again after a long long break around the first gom league. SONG BYUNG GOO FIGHTING~~ Too bad carriers suck in sc2 so we cant see any more awesome 2base carrier plays
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On September 25 2010 22:09 Ciddypoo wrote: Boxer and iloveoov confirmation has seriously redoubled my will to improve in this game. Now I can say, with total confidence, that the only pros left that I'd really want to see on this list (no matter how impossible or unlikely) are ...
nal_ra, fantasy, and savior.
dreamer toss nal ra is in the military.
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The list doesn't mean they will convert to sc2 to go pro/full-time.
boxer rumor has been around for quite a while. ITR was streaming some games and his opponent accidently asked about boxer (which was supposed to be a secret judging by how ITR reacted: swear words that pretty much translated to: oh fuck)
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O.O great names, didn't expect Midas to be playing at all...
I hope Joyo improved because when he retired from BW he was terrible...
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stork??!! lol
I love boxer, but his skills were overrated, iloveoov was twice the player and in his own right also a "genius" creating strategies for one of the best Terran players atm in FantaSy.
2 more Bonjwas? damnnn
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On September 25 2010 22:12 Ahtiven wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 22:09 Ciddypoo wrote: Boxer and iloveoov confirmation has seriously redoubled my will to improve in this game. Now I can say, with total confidence, that the only pros left that I'd really want to see on this list (no matter how impossible or unlikely) are ...
nal_ra, fantasy, and savior. dreamer toss nal ra is in the military.
And Fantasy won't be coming to sc2 any time soon, top terran and best player it SKT atm. And i doubt savior will ever play since he cannot attend GSL. (and most likely other upcoming big tournaments)
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I have not followed Brood War scene before but I tried to watch youtube videos of game casts after I picked SC 2. I owned the game when I was a kid, in fact it was one of the very first games I ever owned, and I really liked it. However, I was too little (8yo) to actually play it in a good sense, so I did not really got that much interest in it. I never forgot how Hydras and Siege Tanks sounded though. I really loved Starcraft, especially watching my then mid 20-s uncle to play.
I watched their videos on youtube and how crazy micro these guys have, how amazing stuff they can pull off, it seems like I lost a lot of fun moments by not following (I didn't really know about SC being very popular in Korea until last 2-3 years either) the BW scene.However, if these guys switch to SC2, it would be quite fun to actually watch what they can do now, and see how much their experience will switch to the sequel of the SC. Overall, this is very exciting new for the future of SC2.
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Alright, assuming this is true, this is it.
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Oh wow you added even more names... Effort and Stork switching are going to be insane.
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Bye bye Oh Wonderful times Seeing that list really saddens me, I guess time got to have its pass.... Still Wc3 will always remain in my heart
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yes Boxer is playing as Terran
now the real question is where.do.we.get.them.replays. ?!
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On September 25 2010 22:08 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 22:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:On September 25 2010 21:53 Ancient.eu wrote: Boxer is playing with Terran ?! Nooooo !
Boxer terran, oov terran, nada terran, julyzerg terran...
All hope is lost for the other races. I thought July playing terran is only a rumor...Its not confirmed,don't jump the gun. It is. It came from the same thread where Cool were saying that he might change. That won't be happening anytime soon tho and i doubt July won't be changing till he is that desperate.
yeah but cool didn't change,so probably july won't...
BTW gisado is streaming...lets see if we could find any of them there.
On September 25 2010 22:16 iCCup.Diamond wrote: O wow. SO BALLER!
most Baller,yes?
Happy Birthday.
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Is this SaviOr him playing from jail or what? xD..he has a good record too LINK
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I'm not surprised someone like stork is playing sc2 in his spare time. This is the same stork that also plays WoW and watches anime non stop even though theres a match the next day (and wins it). His progamer work habits might not be the best but hes still the best protoss out there.
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They are coming!!!
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Most likely not.
Shine, on the other hand, is on the list. He is going to make for some hilarious games that's for sure...
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Happy birthday to you Diamond 
This is pretty exciting but not quite as official as July/NaDa who announced themselves they will take SC2 seriously. Possible all these guys are just playing SC2 on the side.
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On September 25 2010 22:17 Art.FeeL wrote:Is this SaviOr him playing from jail or what? xD..he has a good record too LINK
wow if he could play in jail that would be his record but I doubt it.
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I'm waiting for more reliable sources before freaking out
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Pure is on the list aswell.
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On September 25 2010 22:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 22:17 Art.FeeL wrote:Is this SaviOr him playing from jail or what? xD..he has a good record too LINK wow if he could play in jail that would be his record but I doubt it.
He is not in jail, what are you talking about.
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Stork isn't playing SC2 is he?
Kind of funny that the iloveoov guy actually was oov though.
Should make GSL alot more fun
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This is so awesome :D oov, Boxer, AND NaDa? ^_______________^
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Can't see why someone would fake nick as sAviOr and get to top10 in WORLD ranking as the graph shows. Very probable that is the real sAviOr.
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Movie is on the list too. With all these big names being more or less confirmed and savior not being there I would believe that some guy is just using his nickname, b-teamers have been doing so on iccup forever.
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On September 25 2010 22:24 Makotoo wrote: Can't see why someone would fake nick as sAviOr and get to top10 in WORLD ranking as the graph shows. Very probable that is the real sAviOr.
He might be playing the game, but it doesn't matter. He can't play it competitively anymore.
And not to mention that he might be facing jail time soon.
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On September 25 2010 22:24 Makotoo wrote: Can't see why someone would fake nick as sAviOr and get to top10 in WORLD ranking as the graph shows. Very probable that is the real sAviOr. Like I mentioned in the OP (edited), the same source also told me that he is not the real savior. Also note that the link I provided does not list savior.
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On September 25 2010 22:22 r33k wrote: Pure is on the list aswell.
Is that violet from KT as well?
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On September 25 2010 22:22 Random() wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 22:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:On September 25 2010 22:17 Art.FeeL wrote:Is this SaviOr him playing from jail or what? xD..he has a good record too LINK wow if he could play in jail that would be his record but I doubt it. He is not in jail, what are you talking about.
The match fixing scandal....he's(or will be) sent to jail for 18 months or so.
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On September 25 2010 22:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 22:22 Random() wrote:On September 25 2010 22:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:On September 25 2010 22:17 Art.FeeL wrote:Is this SaviOr him playing from jail or what? xD..he has a good record too LINK wow if he could play in jail that would be his record but I doubt it. He is not in jail, what are you talking about. The match fixing scandal....he's(or will be) sent to jail for 18 months or so.
Eh?
The prosecutor demands that, nothing sealed.
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On September 25 2010 22:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 22:22 Random() wrote:On September 25 2010 22:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:On September 25 2010 22:17 Art.FeeL wrote:Is this SaviOr him playing from jail or what? xD..he has a good record too LINK wow if he could play in jail that would be his record but I doubt it. He is not in jail, what are you talking about. The match fixing scandal....he's(or will be) sent to jail for 18 months or so. He hasn't been sentenced yet. It's unclear how long (if at all) he'll actually have to serve.
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Stork, Midas, Effort? If this is true - those are top10 BW active players. Now, this, this is huge. I mean, superlegendary gods and bonjwas is pretty amazing, but they aren't the best BW players at the moment. But if those 3 are true, that's like... only Flash and Jaedong are missing. brb building a house from the bricks i just shat D:
"your turn to fly" now quickly becomes "your turn to get roflstomped by the BW masters"
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On September 25 2010 22:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 22:22 Random() wrote:On September 25 2010 22:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:On September 25 2010 22:17 Art.FeeL wrote:Is this SaviOr him playing from jail or what? xD..he has a good record too LINK wow if he could play in jail that would be his record but I doubt it. He is not in jail, what are you talking about. The match fixing scandal....he's(or will be) sent to jail for 18 months or so.
That's what the prosecutor wants as far as I know, doesn't mean at all that he will indeed get that jail time. Actually I think if the judge is reasonable he won't get any jail time.
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On September 25 2010 22:28 zerious wrote:Is that violet from KT as well? Nope, I think he's some WC3 player.
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GG foreigners, was fun until it lasted.
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On September 25 2010 22:33 r33k wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 22:28 zerious wrote:On September 25 2010 22:22 r33k wrote: Pure is on the list aswell. Is that violet from KT as well? Nope, I think he's some WC3 player.
Pure a WC3 player? O_O
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yeah but cool didn't change,so probably july won't...
BTW gisado is streaming...lets see if we could find any of them there.
I didn't see any of those names on Gisado's list today but who knows. I know Boxer was in there sometime this week
(I mod in his stream btw)
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oh man, all these names and I bet there are more to come ... it's sick that so many players switch to sc2 :D
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On September 25 2010 22:35 Piski wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 22:33 r33k wrote:On September 25 2010 22:28 zerious wrote:On September 25 2010 22:22 r33k wrote: Pure is on the list aswell. Is that violet from KT as well? Nope, I think he's some WC3 player. Pure a WC3 player? O_O
He was talking about Violet
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It's also interesting to note that Kim Tae Hyung, one of the main casters for OGN is playing under the ID Rainbow. There's no progamer with the same name, is there?
and one of the replies (I have no idea about the reliability) states: 김태형 해설위원에 의해면 대부분 하다고 하더군요.
which translates to: according to Kim Tae Hyung, most play.
'most' is vague but I assume it's talking about BW progamers.
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Wow Moon from wc3? can't wait to see how he'll fair
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Holy shit! This is nuts! I didn't think there would be so many O_O That is mind blowing.
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How do you know about stork[gm]?
That just deserves its own thread. Guy is ranked 4 by power rank and such a news needs its own thread!
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i am impressed and cant wait to see some legendary games
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On September 25 2010 22:33 Random() wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 22:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:On September 25 2010 22:22 Random() wrote:On September 25 2010 22:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:On September 25 2010 22:17 Art.FeeL wrote:Is this SaviOr him playing from jail or what? xD..he has a good record too LINK wow if he could play in jail that would be his record but I doubt it. He is not in jail, what are you talking about. The match fixing scandal....he's(or will be) sent to jail for 18 months or so. That's what the prosecutor wants as far as I know, doesn't mean at all that he will indeed get that jail time. Actually I think if the judge is reasonable he won't get any jail time. Ummm... why? If the judge does not give any jail time that will be rather unreasonable. Gambling is illegal in Korea. What Savior did was not gambling but something even worse, working with illegal gambling organisations. You are thinking, he threw away his wins in a video game... No, he made dealing with illegal organisations (actual important part) and executed them... So... helping illegal gambling organisation = no jail time? Come on bro...
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don't get to hyped up, some of them are probably just playing for fun (stork for instance), to get a bit variation into their day.
until those heavyweights officialy announce their switch / intentions to play sc2 competitively, stay calm :<
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Umm if this is true, Terran imba is over 9000.
Nevertheless, exciting!
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Wow! Boxer was pretty confirmed yeah, but iloveoov? Garimto? Effort and Stork playing the game? Daaaamn!
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On September 25 2010 22:38 Heen wrote: It's also interesting to note that Kim Tae Hyung, one of the main casters for OGN is playing under the ID Rainbow. There's no progamer with the same name, is there?
and one of the replies (I have no idea about the reliability) states: 김태형 해설위원에 의해면 대부분 하다고 하더군요.
which translates to: according to Kim Tae Hyung, most play.
'most' is vague but I assume it's talking about BW progamers.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/15_RainBOw (aka IntoTheRainbow) is playing under the ID "HopeTorture" in SC2, to answer your question
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Nerdgasmic!!
Boxer / Stork / Nada - These guys are so good, they will make even more ppl whine about balance issues... no pun intended
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great all the zerg tears finally paid off
boxer and oov are gonna break the game so bad that blizzard will have to really balance it this time
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On September 25 2010 22:43 ooni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 22:33 Random() wrote:On September 25 2010 22:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:On September 25 2010 22:22 Random() wrote:On September 25 2010 22:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:On September 25 2010 22:17 Art.FeeL wrote:Is this SaviOr him playing from jail or what? xD..he has a good record too LINK wow if he could play in jail that would be his record but I doubt it. He is not in jail, what are you talking about. The match fixing scandal....he's(or will be) sent to jail for 18 months or so. That's what the prosecutor wants as far as I know, doesn't mean at all that he will indeed get that jail time. Actually I think if the judge is reasonable he won't get any jail time. Ummm... why? If the judge does not give any jail time that will be rather unreasonable. Gambling is illegal in Korea. What Savior did was not gambling but something even worse, working with illegal gambling organisations. You are thinking, he threw away his wins in a video game... No, he made dealing with illegal organisations (actual important part) and executed them... So... helping illegal gambling organisation = no jail time? Come on bro...
okokok don't derail the thread with savior's prosecution.I got my facts wrong(for the first time) and I accept that.
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would love to see moon change to sc2
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Moon (from wc3) Effort (it's on the list of 'confirmed' but even the replies on playxp are asking for confirmation) mumyung lucifer (from wc3) Silent_Control stork[gm] shark[gm] Oversky (caster for GSL also) Lyn (from wc3) If he slumps in next Proleague.... we all know why now
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The next couple of GSL Seasons are going to be exciting times.
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Silent_Control! I love you! I don't care you were mediocore, I love you!
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unreliable sources IMO, maybe you guys are going to be disappointed just like the fake patchnote story
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Starcraft 2? More like AirforceCraft.
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On September 25 2010 22:43 ooni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 22:33 Random() wrote:On September 25 2010 22:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:On September 25 2010 22:22 Random() wrote:On September 25 2010 22:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:On September 25 2010 22:17 Art.FeeL wrote:Is this SaviOr him playing from jail or what? xD..he has a good record too LINK wow if he could play in jail that would be his record but I doubt it. He is not in jail, what are you talking about. The match fixing scandal....he's(or will be) sent to jail for 18 months or so. That's what the prosecutor wants as far as I know, doesn't mean at all that he will indeed get that jail time. Actually I think if the judge is reasonable he won't get any jail time. Ummm... why? If the judge does not give any jail time that will be rather unreasonable. Gambling is illegal in Korea. What Savior did was not gambling but something even worse, working with illegal gambling organisations. You are thinking, he threw away his wins in a video game... No, he made dealing with illegal organisations (actual important part) and executed them... So... helping illegal gambling organisation = no jail time? Come on bro...
His crimes were not violent, it was his first trouble with the law and he is young. Young people are stupid and tend to make mistakes. There is a strong chance that he deeply regrets what he did. He is already suffering enough (being stripped of his titles, seeing all that disappointment of his fans, friends and relatives, not being able to participate in GSL, etc, etc.). Sending him to jail would be destroying his life outright. That's just stupid.
EDIT: Sorry, no more off-topic :\
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On September 25 2010 22:50 some_noob wrote: unreliable sources IMO, maybe you guys are going to be disappointed just like the fake patchnote story
A team coach is alot more reliable than some random post on a Blizzard form that happen to spread like a virus. The rumors about Nada turned out to be true, and the rumors about Boxxer seem to have come from a similar source.
Obviously nothing is set in stone until we see them in a GSL booth, but it's certainly looking like alot of the legendary BW pros are returning for SC2.
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On September 25 2010 22:52 Random() wrote: His crimes were not violent[...] Yea, and neither were Conrad Black's.
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confirmed.. that they have a battle.net account and plays some sc2? Surely if boxer and oov made a real switch to SC2, it would be all over fomos, Im not gonna read too much into this as theyre still in STK1 and unless they open a SC2 division they'd have to leave the team.
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On September 25 2010 22:53 kataa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 22:50 some_noob wrote: unreliable sources IMO, maybe you guys are going to be disappointed just like the fake patchnote story A team coach is alot more reliable than some random post on a Blizzard form that happen to spread like a virus. The rumors about Nada turned out to be true, and the rumors about Boxxer seem to have come from a similar source. Obviously nothing is set in stone until we see them in a GSL booth, but it's certainly looking like alot of the legendary BW pros are returning for SC2.
Don't need GSL booth - just get us videos of them playing like the one of Nada :D
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On September 25 2010 21:52 Heen wrote: Additional pros I forgot about because I only checked for those confirmed with BNET id's attached:
Moon (from wc3) Effort (it's on the list of 'confirmed' but even the replies on playxp are asking for confirmation) mumyung lucifer (from wc3) Silent_Control stork[gm] shark[gm] Oversky (caster for GSL also) Lyn (from wc3)
What races are Lyn, Lucifer, Moon playing? Where are their profiles (if you dont mind linking please)
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On September 25 2010 21:57 shannn wrote: Crazy omfg. But nonetheless NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Terran OP going to a new scale. I can't believe it's really happening. GSL 2 is going to be epic.
Well, if they're really going to be so great in SC2, I'm afraid GSL2 will be pretty boring from Round 16 on:
TvT TvT TvT..
You get the drift.
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BOXER plays SC2? Oo
We're screwed! D: Atleast we'll be entertained as our foreigners get smashed to tiny little bits =)
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Wait... whoa. I guess you can say that it was bound to happen... (just not this fast). (Now I'm really lagging behind when it comes down to SC2 lol)
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What, Stork converting to SC2?? I read about him preparing for the next season in BW harder than ever. WTF?! ;(
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Woah really looking forward to see Moon, Ilove00v and of last but not least Boxer.
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On September 25 2010 22:56 snpnx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 21:57 shannn wrote: Crazy omfg. But nonetheless NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Terran OP going to a new scale. I can't believe it's really happening. GSL 2 is going to be epic.
Well, if they're really going to be so great in SC2, I'm afraid GSL2 will be pretty boring from Round 16 on: TvT TvT TvT.. You get the drift. It depends on what race the BW a-teamers will be playing. I'm especially interested in stork who had sub-300 apm for all of his career, since smart decisions were key to his playstyle I'm wondering how his play might be in a less mechanically demanding RTS.
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On September 25 2010 22:58 Sigmur wrote: What, Stork converting to SC2?? I read about him preparing for the next season in BW harder than ever. WTF?! ;(
I don't think Stork is on the list that's converting - more likely the list of players who have a SC2 account, that's all. But to hear that he plays is pretty cool regardless.
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On September 25 2010 22:58 Sigmur wrote: What, Stork converting to SC2?? I read about him preparing for the next season in BW harder than ever. WTF?! ;(
Doesn't mean he's switching. Nothing wrong with him playing some SC2 in the off-season.
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Oh wow, this shit is about to roll out of control - so many nerdgasms.
Myself comming from WC3. Lucifer, Lyn and especially Moon
HOLY
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On September 25 2010 23:01 zerious wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 22:58 Sigmur wrote: What, Stork converting to SC2?? I read about him preparing for the next season in BW harder than ever. WTF?! ;( Doesn't mean he's switching. Nothing wrong with him playing some SC2 in the off-season.
Yeah, especially when he promised his fans to prepare really hard for this season?
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Know what is funny about sc2?
We started with a very strong Canadian Protoss player, HuK. Now, terrans are threatening to take over the scene.
Sounds a bit like Grrrr.... and BoxeR?
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By "switched to sc2", do you mean that they're planning to be playing it full-time in the future, or just that they've played more than a few games recently? It's the first proleague off-season since sc2 was released, so it wouldn't be surprising if many of the current pros have tried their hands at the new game in the meantime. I find it hard to believe that players like Stork and Midas have "switched", especially since, like people before me have mentioned, Stork just renewed his contract and Midas is the team captain.
It sounds like Boxer and Oov have truly switched though, and I'm really curious to see what they can do.
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midas too? who's going to captain wemade
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This list is pretty inaccurate.
-Effort announced retirement from all gaming -Stork had that interview saying he was training harder than ever for the new BW season, and renewed his samsung contract. -Lyn and Moon will still be playing wc3 for wcg. Moon announced he was switching to sc2 before the beta was even out. -Lucifer (from wc3) is still serving his army time.
Other than that, this is cool news. More and more top quality players are switching, instead of just b-teamers. Im tired of w3 players getting a bad rep because only the bad ones switched!
EDIT: someone brought up the point that you can play two games at once. also, moon did not qualify for wcg this year. He also said in an interview a looong time ago that he would be playing as zerg. I don't know if he still feels this way
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all of a sudden, all of my motivation to play SC2 has been restored
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Lol They just play for fun Not progaming yet
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This is so crazy, cant wait to see boxer play
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On September 25 2010 23:08 FrostShadow wrote: This list is pretty inaccurate.
-Effort announced retirement from all gaming -Stork had that interview saying he was training harder than ever for the new BW season, and renewed his samsung contract. -Lyn and Moon will still be playing wc3 for wcg. Moon announced he was switching to sc2 before the beta was even out. -Lucifer (from wc3) is still serving his army time.
Other than that, this is cool news. More and more top quality players are switching, instead of just b-teamers. Im tired of w3 players getting a bad rep because only the bad ones switched!
People should keep these in mind before yelling how great it is because Stork or other ones is switching over.
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On September 25 2010 23:06 Leath wrote:Know what is funny about sc2? We started with a very strong Canadian Protoss player, HuK. Now, terrans are threatening to take over the scene. Sounds a bit like Grrrr.... and BoxeR?
Not to mention TLO " ChRh" owning with Random then switching to Terran.
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stork?? seriously??? hes far too relevant right now in BW to be fooling around with sc2 IMO. he even said in interviews he feels a need to exceed expectations
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Forget Boxer, Stork AND Effort? I'm sorry, but the days of foreigners are numbered. Keep your day jobs, people, it's going to be impossible to go pro soon.
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Wait, Moon is playing?? wow.
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Oh man, I was wondering if the Iloveoov was really him. Of course, this doesn't mean that they are intending to compete, but how could they not want to again, especially if they are already owning the ladder?
Boxer vs. Oov GSL finals is that much closer to reality now, think about that.
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On September 25 2010 23:08 FrostShadow wrote: -Lyn and Moon will still be playing wc3 for wcg. Moon announced he was switching to sc2 before the beta was even out. -Lucifer (from wc3) is still serving his army time.
You can play two games at the same time, and Lucifer is ending his military service soon (in fact, he has played several games of Wc3 recently, even doing extremely well in ZOTAC #150).
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Lucifer said in an interview "fans should wait till februar 2011 and he will be back" ... so lets see what happens next :p
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Looks more like a rumour than a confirmation to me.
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On September 25 2010 23:16 billyX333 wrote: stork?? seriously??? hes far too relevant right now in BW to be fooling around with sc2 IMO. he even said in interviews he feels a need to exceed expectations
Relax, it's just the offseason.
Playing SC2 is far better than him playing WoW and watching anime. Which he was doing plenty off during the previous offseasons, he's just having fun and trying out SC2.
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I bet BoxeR plays SC2 just because of the medivacs. ^_^
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Nal_rA went to the army for only a few weeks so he must be out right now with his family? In the 1st episode of Nalra's Oldboy he said that he was actually looking forward to SC2 and he wanted to test himself. He might be owning "noobs" on the Korean server right now.
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lololol :DD... all bonjwas of bw switching to SC2 =)... Just need Flash
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Garimto should make a team with Boxer and Flash, and it would be over.
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On September 25 2010 23:32 BrutalDon0Bg wrote: Nal_rA went to the army for only a few weeks so he must be out right now with his family? In the 1st episode of Nalra's Oldboy he said that he was actually looking forward to SC2 and he wanted to test himself. He might be owning "noobs" on the Korean server right now.
Ehm, Nalra will be in the military for 2 years. The basic training ends after uknown amount of weeks but the service isn't over. There would've been news about this.
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a little bit off topic, but... i just checked nada's last 25 games in match history and he is on a 25-0 winstreak right now, WTF? this is against top of korean ladder players already. i think hes getting better an an exponential rate
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"Hey, let's take a random thread on an internet forum and take it as a serious source!"
"OMG THEY'RE PLAYING SC2 IT MUST MEAN THEY'RE GONNA SWITCH OVER TO SC2 OMG OMG OMG"
Yes, a lot of progamers are playing sc2. You don't expect many progamers to be interested in sc2 simply out of curiosity viewpoint? But honestly a random playxp thread isn't a definitive source just like random things posted on TL aren't a definitive source either. And it's hilarious how many people here think the players are "switching over" when honestly I can bet most of them are just playing for fun and that's about it.
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On September 25 2010 23:35 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 23:32 BrutalDon0Bg wrote: Nal_rA went to the army for only a few weeks so he must be out right now with his family? In the 1st episode of Nalra's Oldboy he said that he was actually looking forward to SC2 and he wanted to test himself. He might be owning "noobs" on the Korean server right now. Ehm, Nalra will be in the military for 2 years. The basic training ends after uknown amount of weeks but the service isn't over. There would've been news about this. he had military basic training for a short time, and has civil service for the rest of his 2 years.
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On September 25 2010 22:12 Ahtiven wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 22:09 Ciddypoo wrote: Boxer and iloveoov confirmation has seriously redoubled my will to improve in this game. Now I can say, with total confidence, that the only pros left that I'd really want to see on this list (no matter how impossible or unlikely) are ...
nal_ra, fantasy, and savior. dreamer toss nal ra is in the military. hehe, yeah -- and savior's probably on the way to prison. Hence my 'no matter how impossible or unlikely' clause. =x
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If there's one Progamer that I can say with confidence will NOT switch to SC2 soon is Flash. The guy has been hailed as the GOD of Brood War. So unless Brood War DOES shut down (which, of course, is a possibility), I doubt he will be switching soon.
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On September 25 2010 23:32 Welmu wrote: lololol :DD... all bonjwas of bw switching to SC2 =)... Just need Flash
Flash already said he will be switching to SC2 when the time is right, my guess is that for him the time would be right when there's no longer tons of money to be made in BW.
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Holy shit, Lyn Moon Effort Stork and Midas? Seriously?
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On September 25 2010 23:40 dabom88 wrote: If there's one Progamer that I can say with confidence will NOT switch to SC2 soon is Flash. The guy has been hailed as the GOD of Brood War. So unless Brood War DOES shut down (which, of course, is a possibility), I doubt he will be switching soon.
Don't forget Jaedong Best Zerg of all time!
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On September 25 2010 23:36 billyX333 wrote: a little bit off topic, but... i just checked nada's last 25 games in match history and he is on a 25-0 winstreak right now, WTF? this is against top of korean ladder players already. i think hes getting better an an exponential rate
It's ridiculous. He must be playing people who are rated at least 1500. 25 game winstreak against those people is SICK
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This is problematic if they're all switching to Terran.
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wow. Effort switching to sc2 would be weird because he said that he wouldn't do it.
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Will be even harder for our TL fellers in the future GSL's
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Well, if even half of these turn out to be true then the foreigner's days are numbered
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On September 25 2010 23:39 Milkis wrote: "Hey, let's take a random thread on an internet forum and take it as a serious source!"
"OMG THEY'RE PLAYING SC2 IT MUST MEAN THEY'RE GONNA SWITCH OVER TO SC2 OMG OMG OMG"
Yes, a lot of progamers are playing sc2. You don't expect many progamers to be interested in sc2 simply out of curiosity viewpoint? But honestly a random playxp thread isn't a definitive source just like random things posted on TL aren't a definitive source either. And it's hilarious how many people here think the players are "switching over" when honestly I can bet most of them are just playing for fun and that's about it.
...
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Finally SC2 is becoming more interesting.
BOXER FIGHTING!!! ~~~~
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Wow, no words for this. Especially happy to see Midas in the list <3
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On September 25 2010 23:39 Milkis wrote: "Hey, let's take a random thread on an internet forum and take it as a serious source!"
"OMG THEY'RE PLAYING SC2 IT MUST MEAN THEY'RE GONNA SWITCH OVER TO SC2 OMG OMG OMG"
Yes, a lot of progamers are playing sc2. You don't expect many progamers to be interested in sc2 simply out of curiosity viewpoint? But honestly a random playxp thread isn't a definitive source just like random things posted on TL aren't a definitive source either. And it's hilarious how many people here think the players are "switching over" when honestly I can bet most of them are just playing for fun and that's about it.
killjoy.... still i agree.
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On September 25 2010 21:53 Nazza wrote: Boxer vs TLO!
*head explodes*
*reads this comment*
*head also explodes*
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On September 25 2010 23:39 Milkis wrote: "Hey, let's take a random thread on an internet forum and take it as a serious source!"
"OMG THEY'RE PLAYING SC2 IT MUST MEAN THEY'RE GONNA SWITCH OVER TO SC2 OMG OMG OMG"
Yes, a lot of progamers are playing sc2. You don't expect many progamers to be interested in sc2 simply out of curiosity viewpoint? But honestly a random playxp thread isn't a definitive source just like random things posted on TL aren't a definitive source either. And it's hilarious how many people here think the players are "switching over" when honestly I can bet most of them are just playing for fun and that's about it. but i thought you said koreans don't think sc2 is fun =P
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There are so many names on this list, it's hard to imagine that most of them will end up playing professionally. But even so, WOW...even if only a few big names from this list start playing in competitions it will be a HUGE boost for SC2 in Korea. I mean we already have July and Nada pretty much confirmed, and if that manofoneway account is really Boxer then it looks like he's taking the game pretty seriously.
Seriously, can you imagine what the crowd would be like for July vs Nada in GSL Season 2? I'll tell you one thing, Gom TV is gonna need to find a bigger studio...
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On September 25 2010 23:39 Milkis wrote: "Hey, let's take a random thread on an internet forum and take it as a serious source!"
"OMG THEY'RE PLAYING SC2 IT MUST MEAN THEY'RE GONNA SWITCH OVER TO SC2 OMG OMG OMG"
Yes, a lot of progamers are playing sc2. You don't expect many progamers to be interested in sc2 simply out of curiosity viewpoint? But honestly a random playxp thread isn't a definitive source just like random things posted on TL aren't a definitive source either. And it's hilarious how many people here think the players are "switching over" when honestly I can bet most of them are just playing for fun and that's about it. Checking back on my OP, I used the term 'converted' before I listed the names which is plain wrong as I, too, was excited.
I meant that the identity of boxer and oov have been confirmed. This is basically just a list of famous people who play SC2. However, looking at the number of games played, you can't deny that converting to SC2 wouldn't be all that surpising. You don't just get to the top of the ladder for 'fun' playing 500+ games in a short period of time.
And in my defense,
1. My main source is not from that article
2. that random thread on playxp is written by RenieHouR, who's a respected player and an active member of the community, not exactly a random guy who pulls shit out of his ass.
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OMG I can't even begin to imagine the chaos that will occur when boxer starts abusing reapers, hellions, ghosts, and ravens. They may all have to be nerfed now
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WOW If effort transfers over that will be insane, he said he was quitting, but said he wouldn't play games anymore :O!
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Someone needs to check out Boxer's Match history and check what crazy stuff he is coming up with!.
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fuuuuck, man I've always tried to remain skeptical at a Boxer comeback in SC2 in order to not get my heart broken, but this is so exciting omg
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They play so many laddergames on the KR servers, why don't we get some replays? Why don't the Koreans post some?
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stork? STOOORK? STOOOOOOORK!
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Ratings and records of high profile korean pros:
Nada: 1775 points with a record of 214 won, 120 lost, ratio of 64.07% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/931025/NaDa
iloveoov: 1851 points with a record of 451 won, 365 lost, ratio of 55.27% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/723947/ilOveOOv
Boxer: 1815 points with a record of 338 won, 187 lost, ratio of 64.38% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/1531836/ManofOneway
JulyZerg: 1889 points with a record of 670 won, 504 lost, ratio of 57.07% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/79521/FantaPrime
KingdomW: 1700 points with a record of 413 won, 328 lost, ratio of 55.74% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/1306540/KingdomW
Garimto: 1517 points with a record of 387 won, 332 lost, ratio of 53.82% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/142521/가림토
Midas: 1238 points with a record of 242 won, 197 lost, ratio of 55.13% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/243733/midas
bluek: 1323 points with a record of 116 won, 92 lost, ratio of 55.77% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/193545/바나나
Daezang: 1490 points with a record of 243 won, 198 lost, ratio of 55.10% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/933481/dzdzdz
Silver: 1472 points with a record of 172 won, 135 lost, ratio of 56.03% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/328398/SiLvEr
Chrh: 1672 points with a record of 214 won, 164 lost, ratio of 56.61% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/406785/NEXKYumer
I think it's safe to say JulyZerg takes the prize of most dedicated to succeeding in GSL 2.
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On September 25 2010 23:39 Milkis wrote: "Hey, let's take a random thread on an internet forum and take it as a serious source!"
"OMG THEY'RE PLAYING SC2 IT MUST MEAN THEY'RE GONNA SWITCH OVER TO SC2 OMG OMG OMG"
Yes, a lot of progamers are playing sc2. You don't expect many progamers to be interested in sc2 simply out of curiosity viewpoint? But honestly a random playxp thread isn't a definitive source just like random things posted on TL aren't a definitive source either. And it's hilarious how many people here think the players are "switching over" when honestly I can bet most of them are just playing for fun and that's about it.
Months ago, who could had imagined about July or NaDa switching from SC:BW to SC2??
I believe there´s still a chance for many of those names, specially the ones with no team to play for, to change into the Sc2 pro scene
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As a former WC3 player its awesome seeing moon, lucifer and lyn on that list. Moon and Lyn were two of my favorite players. Sweet!
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I find it so confusing that access to famous players' stats etc is suddenly so easy... I don't know exactly how to feel about it. I would love to know their oppinion in this matter.
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I call it now, Movie is gonna win the 3rd GSL! That guy has talent
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wow i can´t wait for the next season! hope they will participate already, but perhaps they will wait a little longer? god i want to see them play right NOW ^^
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Alot of haters and "BW fantatics" in this thread trying to derail it and play it down
Let people here be happy about, you can go to the BW section and whine to your hearts content.
Stop being old bitter men yelling for people stepping on your porch and let them enjoy it.
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POASTING IN EPIC THREAD
User was temp banned for this post.
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How the F*** are you supposed to win over boxer the way medivacs are in sc2 
Crossing fingers for some replays of boxer coming out soon with some insane strats.
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On September 26 2010 00:21 Raevin wrote: Alot of haters and "BW fantatics" in this thread trying to derail it and play it down
Let people here be happy about, you can go to the BW section and whine to your hearts content.
Stop being old bitter men yelling for people stepping on your porch and let them enjoy it.
Seems like you're trying to derail the thread.
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On September 25 2010 23:55 Heen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 23:39 Milkis wrote: "Hey, let's take a random thread on an internet forum and take it as a serious source!"
"OMG THEY'RE PLAYING SC2 IT MUST MEAN THEY'RE GONNA SWITCH OVER TO SC2 OMG OMG OMG"
Yes, a lot of progamers are playing sc2. You don't expect many progamers to be interested in sc2 simply out of curiosity viewpoint? But honestly a random playxp thread isn't a definitive source just like random things posted on TL aren't a definitive source either. And it's hilarious how many people here think the players are "switching over" when honestly I can bet most of them are just playing for fun and that's about it. Checking back on my OP, I used the term 'converted' before I listed the names which is plain wrong as I, too, was excited. I meant that the identity of boxer and oov have been confirmed. This is basically just a list of famous people who play SC2. However, looking at the number of games played, you can't deny that converting to SC2 wouldn't be all that surpising. You don't just get to the top of the ladder for 'fun' playing 500+ games in a short period of time. And in my defense, 1. My main source is not from that article 2. that random thread on playxp is written by RenieHouR, who's a respected player and an active member of the community, not exactly a random guy who pulls shit out of his ass.
Then you can do us a favor by fixing that right :O
The identity of boxer and oov being confirmed is nice, sure. But honestly it'll be a while before iloveoov or anyone who belongs to a proteam can "convert" to sc2 because KeSPA is retarded. But you can't "accuse" anyone of converting until they actually announce it. Speculation is nice but just make sure you mention it because this *is* the internet after all and people will take it as truth.
1) sure 2) That thread honestly looks like a compilation of netizen rumors. Where does RenieHouR get HIS sources from? Likely from words of mouth and things he's heard.
Either way the word "converted" is definitely wrong so you should edit the OP to make sure you're grasping the situation right.
Months ago, who could had imagined about July or NaDa switching from SC:BW to SC2??
I believe there´s still a chance for many of those names, specially the ones with no team to play for, to change into the Sc2 pro scene
July's been rumored pretty much forever :|
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On September 26 2010 00:19 XsebT wrote: I find it so confusing that access to famous players' stats etc is suddenly so easy... I don't know exactly how to feel about it. I would love to know their oppinion in this matter.
I think Nada likes it. From that video that Artosis posted you can see Nada checking people's profiles and smiling about it. Him choosing the name Nada doesn't exactly make it look like he's trying to hide his identity, and same goes to iloveoov.
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the age of starcraft 2 glory is about to begin
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haha BOXER and iloveoov should try out SC2
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On September 26 2010 00:21 Raevin wrote: Alot of haters and "BW fantatics" in this thread trying to derail it and play it down
Let people here be happy about, you can go to the BW section and whine to your hearts content.
Stop being old bitter men yelling for people stepping on your porch and let them enjoy it.
Agree 100%.
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lol stork is quitting sc1 for sc2 maybe?
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On September 26 2010 00:20 Yttrasil wrote:I call it now, Movie is gonna win the 3rd GSL! That guy has talent
Not if stork or effort legitimately switches (seems doubtful), tbh any currently active progamer probably isnt gonna switch right now, but the second they do they're almost definitely gonna be very very top level if not the best
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My god.
What chance to we stand . TL team is going to have to play like gods to compete in the comming months. Fighto.
(where is my grubby?! nice to see moon/lucifer/lyn tho)
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Awh, midas? One of my favorite terrans... :l
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Boxer and Nada have great win% on the kr server, they'd probably tear up GSL.
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On September 26 2010 00:32 whitelynx wrote: Awh, midas? One of my favorite terrans... :l me too, from more posts in the thread it seems that he's simply playing it in the offseason for fun and not switching over yet after all, wemade still needs a replacement captain, i hope it's him
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but stork just resigned with samsung...
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When effort announced that he was retiring, he said he wasn't gonna play sc2
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By the way, just the fact that they play SC2 (and so many ladder games), already means a lot. Even if they don't switch. Sure, progamers try out other games, but not that much, and also SC2 was really looked down upon, before. At least this legitimates the serious interest of the best RTS players in the world. It is big news. (if it's true)
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Eff0rt left to pursue other things, I doubt he'll play SC2.
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This is getting better by the day.
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On September 25 2010 23:45 Fantistic wrote: This is problematic if they're all switching to Terran.
yeah...but it would get hard to call terran OP because they would simply own so hard because of their superior skill lol
although it's probably not gonna happen for a long time I'd really like to see stork converting, protoss needs another hero besides tester
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Didn't we just have an interview with stork where he talks about practicing hard for next bw season?
With effort I could see him going to sc2. Some people seem so naive though, yea effort said he is taking a break from bw to pursue other things. Yea his coach said it wasn't for sc2. But this is how things go sometimes when you are trying to end a break up amicably.
Sorta like how tester and cool said they were quitting ogs to just enjoy the game and have some fun before military, then a week later they were on another team.
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I just wanna know if NEXggaemo is ggaemo! haha
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On September 25 2010 23:39 Milkis wrote: "Hey, let's take a random thread on an internet forum and take it as a serious source!"
"OMG THEY'RE PLAYING SC2 IT MUST MEAN THEY'RE GONNA SWITCH OVER TO SC2 OMG OMG OMG"
Yes, a lot of progamers are playing sc2. You don't expect many progamers to be interested in sc2 simply out of curiosity viewpoint? But honestly a random playxp thread isn't a definitive source just like random things posted on TL aren't a definitive source either. And it's hilarious how many people here think the players are "switching over" when honestly I can bet most of them are just playing for fun and that's about it.
Who said "switching over" means playing professionally? It seems to be the underlying assumption, but given all the SC2 haters saying "OMG SC2 WILL NEVER BE GOOD IN KOREA, KOREANS HATE IT AND HAVE NO INTEREST IN PLAYING OR WATCHING IT", the fact that they are playing it is plenty reason to get excited.
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people keep seeing names and assuming all of them are switching for professional purposes, take it with a grain of salt until said otherwise. people can play games on their free will, so who knows.
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great news. wonder what races they are playing =]
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On September 26 2010 00:27 Celesti wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 00:21 Raevin wrote: Alot of haters and "BW fantatics" in this thread trying to derail it and play it down
Let people here be happy about, you can go to the BW section and whine to your hearts content.
Stop being old bitter men yelling for people stepping on your porch and let them enjoy it.
Agree 100%.
There is a big difference between a player getting an SC2 account and a player converting to SC2. The original OP is an example of reading too much into a fact, and spinning it into something that it is not. The internet makes it too easy to spread misinformation, and some reactions in the SC2 forums are an example of that.
Milkis did not spoil your party, he just asked for some well-grounded thinking.
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On September 26 2010 00:40 sleepingdog wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 23:45 Fantistic wrote: This is problematic if they're all switching to Terran. yeah...but it would get hard to call terran OP because they would simply own so hard because of their superior skill lol although it's probably not gonna happen for a long time I'd really like to see stork converting, protoss needs another hero besides tester
If Tester is a hero then Stork must be Jesus.
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On September 26 2010 00:55 VManOfMana wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 00:27 Celesti wrote:On September 26 2010 00:21 Raevin wrote: Alot of haters and "BW fantatics" in this thread trying to derail it and play it down
Let people here be happy about, you can go to the BW section and whine to your hearts content.
Stop being old bitter men yelling for people stepping on your porch and let them enjoy it.
Agree 100%. There is a big difference between a player getting an SC2 account and a player converting to SC2. The original OP is an example of reading too much into a fact, and spinning it into something that it is not. The internet makes it too easy to spread misinformation, and some reactions in the SC2 forums are an example of that. Milkis did not spoil your party, he just asked for some well-grounded thinking.
There's also a big difference between a player just getting a SC2 account for fun and a player playing 500 games in the ladder:
Nada: 1775 points with a record of 214 won, 120 lost, ratio of 64.07% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/931025/NaDa
iloveoov: 1851 points with a record of 451 won, 365 lost, ratio of 55.27% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/723947/ilOveOOv
Boxer: 1815 points with a record of 338 won, 187 lost, ratio of 64.38% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/1531836/ManofOneway
JulyZerg: 1889 points with a record of 670 won, 504 lost, ratio of 57.07% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/79521/FantaPrime
KingdomW: 1700 points with a record of 413 won, 328 lost, ratio of 55.74% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/1306540/KingdomW
Garimto: 1517 points with a record of 387 won, 332 lost, ratio of 53.82% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/142521/가림토
Midas: 1238 points with a record of 242 won, 197 lost, ratio of 55.13% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/243733/midas
bluek: 1323 points with a record of 116 won, 92 lost, ratio of 55.77% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/193545/바나나
Daezang: 1490 points with a record of 243 won, 198 lost, ratio of 55.10% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/933481/dzdzdz
Silver: 1472 points with a record of 172 won, 135 lost, ratio of 56.03% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/328398/SiLvEr
Chrh: 1672 points with a record of 214 won, 164 lost, ratio of 56.61% http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/406785/NEXKYumer
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On September 25 2010 21:53 Nazza wrote: Boxer vs TLO!
*TLO head explodes* fixed
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On September 26 2010 00:57 Dionyseus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 00:55 VManOfMana wrote:On September 26 2010 00:27 Celesti wrote:On September 26 2010 00:21 Raevin wrote: Alot of haters and "BW fantatics" in this thread trying to derail it and play it down
Let people here be happy about, you can go to the BW section and whine to your hearts content.
Stop being old bitter men yelling for people stepping on your porch and let them enjoy it.
Agree 100%. There is a big difference between a player getting an SC2 account and a player converting to SC2. The original OP is an example of reading too much into a fact, and spinning it into something that it is not. The internet makes it too easy to spread misinformation, and some reactions in the SC2 forums are an example of that. Milkis did not spoil your party, he just asked for some well-grounded thinking. There's also a big difference between a player just getting a SC2 account for fun and a player playing 500 games in the ladder:
These are professional starcraft gamers, they've been playing 8-12 hours a day for years, this is nothing to them.
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On September 26 2010 00:31 On_Slaught wrote: (where is my grubby?! nice to see moon/lucifer/lyn tho) he tries to win his 3rd WCG ub WC3 and then he will switch
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oh man next GSL is going to be sick
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On September 26 2010 01:02 zerious wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 00:57 Dionyseus wrote:On September 26 2010 00:55 VManOfMana wrote:On September 26 2010 00:27 Celesti wrote:On September 26 2010 00:21 Raevin wrote: Alot of haters and "BW fantatics" in this thread trying to derail it and play it down
Let people here be happy about, you can go to the BW section and whine to your hearts content.
Stop being old bitter men yelling for people stepping on your porch and let them enjoy it.
Agree 100%. There is a big difference between a player getting an SC2 account and a player converting to SC2. The original OP is an example of reading too much into a fact, and spinning it into something that it is not. The internet makes it too easy to spread misinformation, and some reactions in the SC2 forums are an example of that. Milkis did not spoil your party, he just asked for some well-grounded thinking. There's also a big difference between a player just getting a SC2 account for fun and a player playing 500 games in the ladder: These are professional starcraft gamers, they've been playing 8-12 hours a day for years, this is nothing to them.
500+ games over the course of 2 months is still heck of alot of effort and time put into it...
Boxer and Oov in SC2?
+ Show Spoiler +JIZZ JZZ JIZZZZZZZZ IN MY PANTS!!!!!!!!!!
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Man, is nobody else excited for the possibility of Kingdom's carriers?
... Because I am.
Even though I don't see him leaving his commentating job for GSL, haha.
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On September 26 2010 01:13 DeckOneBell wrote: Man, is nobody else excited for the possibility of Kingdom's carriers?
... Because I am.
Even though I don't see him leaving his commentating job for GSL, haha. Made me laugh.
MANOFONEWAYYYYYYY! Maybe Team Liquid could have a showmatch against some of these guys.
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This is awesome news! 
I wonder... if every Korean pro plays as Terran in SC2, will Blizzard will change stuff up with the balance. Nobody's gonna want to see TvTs all day long... It kills me that JulyZerg changed to Terran, but I'm not surprised.
If Boxer played TLO... I think there *might* actually be a split in the community over who to root for o.O (Of course, if TLO played pretty much anyone else, it wouldn't matter )
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Effort said he wasnt going to SC2 thought....
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On September 26 2010 01:02 zerious wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 00:57 Dionyseus wrote:On September 26 2010 00:55 VManOfMana wrote:On September 26 2010 00:27 Celesti wrote:On September 26 2010 00:21 Raevin wrote: Alot of haters and "BW fantatics" in this thread trying to derail it and play it down
Let people here be happy about, you can go to the BW section and whine to your hearts content.
Stop being old bitter men yelling for people stepping on your porch and let them enjoy it.
Agree 100%. There is a big difference between a player getting an SC2 account and a player converting to SC2. The original OP is an example of reading too much into a fact, and spinning it into something that it is not. The internet makes it too easy to spread misinformation, and some reactions in the SC2 forums are an example of that. Milkis did not spoil your party, he just asked for some well-grounded thinking. There's also a big difference between a player just getting a SC2 account for fun and a player playing 500 games in the ladder: These are professional starcraft gamers, they've been playing 8-12 hours a day for years, this is nothing to them.
Yeah cause we all know when we play for fun we grind hundreds of games just for the hell of it. Specifically because they were professionals is a clear indication that they don't invest time, especially this amount of time, into something they aren't planning on diving deeper into. Is it a certainty that they are going to jump into GSL in the near future? Of course not. There is no doubt though that they are poking and prodding to see if it's similar enough to jump right in when the time comes.
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now maybe stork can finally start winning some games
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iloveoov oh my GOOOOOOOOOOOD Awesome news, hope they all join for GSL #2 :D
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On September 26 2010 01:15 Sworn wrote: Effort said he wasnt going to SC2 thought....
im pretty sure he had to say that and he probably just said it like "i dont play sc2 professionally right now" so that he may still change his opinion
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moon is playing? :D:D:D:D:D:D omg i'm so excited, his wc3 games were so awesome
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Oh, wow. Can't wait till next GSL, that Ro64 is going to be full of familiar names :D
Seeing this reminded that Garimto joined MYM quite a while ago. I'm surprised we haven't seen him around much.
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Stork? Is there confirmation? Is he protoss?
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OK...Blizzard'd better balance the game before The Emperor starts playing GSL because everyone will think Terran is imba then
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OMG...STORK...
This is really good news. This is just going to make things exciting. I don't think it is game over for foreigners. The game just started.
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This officially moves me to SC2.
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On September 26 2010 01:29 Spidinko wrote:OK...Blizzard'd better balance the game before The Emperor starts playing GSL because everyone will think Terran is imba then 
yep no one is saying Terran is imba now 
im waiting for and offical announcement, but i do hope the rumours are true, altough i wish more Zerg and Protoss old timers would move over
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This is great news ! Starcraft 2 is bringing back all the veterans to the game, which is still evolving.
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I dunno, there's a big difference between playing and going pro w/ SC2. I'd expect every BW player has at least tried SC2 to see what it's about. In fact, it would be to their advantage to do so if things transition that way in the future. How serious these guys are is the question.
Though oov with 800 games played seems fairly serious.
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On September 26 2010 01:15 Sworn wrote: Effort said he wasnt going to SC2 thought....
He said he wasn't playing professionally. Those are just people with b.net accounts. Can't the man have a little fun?
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Oh god this is huge. I thought Iloveoov was still coaching on SKT unlike Boxer? Is he just playing in his spare time?
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On September 26 2010 01:35 SmoKim wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 01:29 Spidinko wrote:OK...Blizzard'd better balance the game before The Emperor starts playing GSL because everyone will think Terran is imba then  yep no one is saying Terran is imba now  im waiting for and offical announcement, but i do hope the rumours are true, altough i wish more Zerg and Protoss old timers would move over Let's just say it would be harder for Blizzard to balance the game
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gsl S2 looking so scary with former bonjwa's
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this will be hard to balance terran with them because terran will be even stronger because all the old pro are terran, we need more P an Z
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On September 26 2010 01:39 Ursadon-n-Pals wrote: Oh god this is huge. I thought Iloveoov was still coaching on SKT unlike Boxer? Is he just playing in his spare time?
If he's just playing in his spare time he must have tons of spare time with over 800 games played ;p
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FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK Stork is playing sc2? I want him to rape BW some more and then switch. Im not ready for him to transition yet
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oh shit that is a lot of old school names
i want to see if they still got it
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Wow. Keeping seeing new names get added everyday. Sc2 is going to be so good to watch, with all the innovation from these players.
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Anyone knows if Lucifer already finished military service? Always thought he still has to serve till 2011. :o Would be soooo awesome!
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THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
I'm so glad too see former players come back
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Wow, Boxer really seems to be an awesome SC-II player already. TLO stated, that win/lose between him and Boxer is pretty much 50/50 and Boxer already has 65% win, which i guess is pretty hard on korean ladder. Looking forward to see replays.
Forgive me, if I'm the only one not knowing it, but I have a question: Will GomTV show, who signs in for GSL2. So not just who makes it to the Round-of-64 but who signs in for the tournament. Would be interesting to check the names and maybe see some well-known names.
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theres a guy called lucifer in kiwikaki's division, dunno if its him tho EU server
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All these players currently in a team won't even be able to participate in the GSL since KeSPA is boycotting it.
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my world jsut got turned upside down., i can't wait too see stork play some sc2 holy fuckkkkkkkkk
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Are they playing seriously or are they just messing around with the game?
By they, I mean all of them. It looks like Boxer and Oov are really good. And who is Choya? near the top in Korea right now.
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stork seriously?? That is a lot of old school pros there playing sc2.
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This is awesome news. oov was always one of my favorites.
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My brain's this close to exploding if we don't get another zerg hero. Come on zerg ....
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My expectations for GSL2 are so damn high.
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I wonder when the top 2 SC1 heroes would move to Starcraft. Heck I wonder if jaedong would totally revolutionize zerg play in SC2 ...
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Holy crap! Moon, Luci AND Lyn! I hope the wc3 players can hold their own!
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On September 26 2010 02:06 TanGeng wrote: Are they playing seriously or are they just messing around with the game?
By they, I mean all of them. It looks like Boxer and Oov are really good. And who is Choya? near the top in Korea right now. choya is the clan master of [fOu] clan of BW from what I gathered. I don't even know what ID he used in BW.
And whether they are playing seriously or messing around is to be determined but those with lots of games are probably doing more than 'just messing around.' These guys are pro after all. I assume, at the least, they want to get a taste of SC2 to decide their future prospects.
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OH SHIT MuMyung???
Watch out everyone!!!!
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On September 26 2010 02:06 TanGeng wrote: Are they playing seriously or are they just messing around with the game?
By they, I mean all of them. It looks like Boxer and Oov are really good. And who is Choya? near the top in Korea right now.
He is #1 in Korea atm with 2072. Here's his profile: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/608_Choya
He was also Choya[fOu]. He had one of the fastest hands in BW with apms of over 400, but never made it to the big leagues in BW as far as I remember.
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BOXER! The return of Terran Emperor! and ILOVEOOV! The Monster Terran! Amazing news. :D
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WOWWWWWWW someone please leak some boxer replays
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>:O
BoxeR vs iloveoov in SC2? :O :O :O :O
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On September 26 2010 02:41 Dionyseus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 02:06 TanGeng wrote: Are they playing seriously or are they just messing around with the game?
By they, I mean all of them. It looks like Boxer and Oov are really good. And who is Choya? near the top in Korea right now. He is #1 in Korea atm with 2072. Here's his profile: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/608_ChoyaHe was also Choya[fOu]. He had one of the fastest hands in BW with apms of over 400, but never made it to the big leagues in BW as far as I remember. additionally if you're interested in Choya, he played a bunch of games recently on gisado's koth. psyko will be uploaded the replays at some point today.
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On September 26 2010 01:01 Biff The Understudy wrote:fixed I dunno, TLO's head was pretty fine in his match with Nada.
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Next GSL season will be sick no doubt.
Gotta love Boxer's nukes.
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On September 26 2010 02:39 Jibba wrote: OH SHIT MuMyung???
Watch out everyone!!!! Wait wtf? Isn't he coaching a BW team now?
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Ugg why did they choose terran They got boxer, oOv, chrh, nada, and midas.
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ILOVEOOV ?! :D gorilla terran playing sc2 ftw wow so many big names~~
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now all we need is stork/bisu/reach
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i just wet my pants looking at boxer's win rate
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On September 26 2010 00:31 On_Slaught wrote:My god. What chance to we stand  . TL team is going to have to play like gods to compete in the comming months. Fighto. (where is my grubby?! nice to see moon/lucifer/lyn tho)
Grubby, Moon and Lyn are all in the same position as of now, they're practising like hell for the Last WCG Title of Warcraft 3 which of course if the most important tournament for them as of now. I bet Moon and Lyn just has their SC2 accounts not to actively practise it but rather play it just for fun every once in a while to feel it out. Grubby probably has a SC2 account but hides his identity which is extremely smart. When he now as it seems starts playing SC2 more actively he will probably change account to one that can be recognized easier or maybe he stays anonymous.
Also, this is a bit tragical that such a wonderful game as it seems has to lose its very top players because another game emerges. My dream would of course that both these amazing games could live side by side and provide each other with fuel to continue enticing viewers. But WC3 will always remain actively as a truly awesome game in the deepest of my heart.
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On September 26 2010 02:54 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 02:39 Jibba wrote: OH SHIT MuMyung???
Watch out everyone!!!! Wait wtf? Isn't he coaching a BW team now?
Probably is. I'm seriously doubting that list, and even then, I don't see why people wouldnt be allowed to play some sc2 while still focusing on bw. That list really doesnt mean anything imo and I think everyone should wait for some official confirmation from the player themselves (or til they join some tournament) before being excited and everything.
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This is incredible. We need Bisu/Jaedong/Flash now! The three Gods!
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anyone has a link to stork's bnet profile?
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Effort and MuMyung I'm confused about. I thought Effort was going back to school, and MuMyung is coaching a team isn't he?
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Anyone heard anything about what happened to Upmagic and Sangho? Since the Artosis interview we havn't heard anything about them. I would have thought that one of them would have played in the GSL1.
Or maybe the banned players from the scandal are banned from gomtv also?
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aww.. Boxer and oov leaving sc1...what will happen to my boy fantasy =(
lol can't imagine oov playing sc2 with mbs and auto mining. good luck to both =D
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Boxer & iloveoov ? OH . MY . GOD ! (nerdgasm)
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On September 26 2010 03:06 cerebralz wrote: Anyone heard anything about what happened to Upmagic and Sangho? Since the Artosis interview we havn't heard anything about them. I would have thought that one of them would have played in the GSL1.
Or maybe the banned players from the scandal are banned from gomtv also?
gomtv is gonna honor the bans, yes. they announced that months ago when they posted tournament rules. you are still held accountable if you do bad things which is good.
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On September 26 2010 03:04 MangoTango wrote: Effort and MuMyung I'm confused about. I thought Effort was going back to school, and MuMyung is coaching a team isn't he? doesn't mean they cant play in their free time.
Im very excited, this will finally help start the Korean SC2 scene
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On September 26 2010 02:54 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 02:39 Jibba wrote: OH SHIT MuMyung???
Watch out everyone!!!! Wait wtf? Isn't he coaching a BW team now? there was an anonymous person on gisado yesterday who people were saying was mumyung, reps will be uploaded today so people are free to check hotkeys or whatever.
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On September 25 2010 21:48 Superouman wrote:now it's over for foreigners 
Not really
If we get an IdrA who doesn't forget to scout I'd say were in good shape. 
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Kind of surprised at iloveoov's lower win percentage compared to NaDa and Boxer.
But . . . those two are clearly wrecking from how things are looking.
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Boxer with improved macro from automining... mmmm Micro FTW baby ^^
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wtf midas? 440 games of SC2? Are you even practicing?! Gahhhh. Better not let me down this season. :/
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Just because they are playing doesn't mean they will play professionally guys...
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Yeah.... this doesn't mean anything yet. For the start it's the offseason so they have free time to play other games. And remeber Stork was playing WoW during the regular season too.
Still, a few of them in GSL2 would certainly be exciting.
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Thread title is misleading. Should be renamed to something like "SC2 Who is Who" or "SC2 Akas".
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Is NaDa's sc2ranks page bugged btw?
http://i.imgur.com/CPVVR.jpg
He was 212-119 a few days ago without a perfect record and now he's only went up to 214-120, so I guess it must be. He'd also be at 1900 or 2000 points if he had a crazy win streak like that. It still looks badass though.
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On September 25 2010 21:53 Nazza wrote: Boxer vs TLO!
*head explodes* One-sided rape much?
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On September 26 2010 03:48 synapse wrote:One-sided rape much?
Why would you say that? Do you even have any clue how good Boxer is at sc2?
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this is so fucking huge!
grubby and remind will switch too. there have never been so many progamers in one game.
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Hopefully Artosis can get some more videos up and running with interviews or gameplay footage with these guys. As I have been saying for so long now, it was only a matter of short time before the pro's of SC:BW realized theres going to be even more money here in SC2 tournaments and a bigger fan base, at least for foreigners. I love it! Bring one, bring them all, and now the foreigner scene can finally give them a run for their money.
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Effort you liar! and Stork :O
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Is MVP the ex progamer also? He is really highly ranked too.
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On September 26 2010 03:59 Kenpachi wrote: Effort you liar! and Stork :O
It just says that they are playing Starcraft 2 and not that they are leaveing Starcraft BW.
This list is just of people who have tried starcraft 2 and got an account.
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On September 26 2010 03:56 DkH.ZeRa wrote: this is so fucking huge!
grubby and remind will switch too. there have never been so many progamers in one game. i've talked with remind. He has no interest in sc2
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On September 26 2010 03:48 Kantutan wrote:Is NaDa's sc2ranks page bugged btw? http://i.imgur.com/CPVVR.jpgHe was 212-119 a few days ago without a perfect record and now he's only went up to 214-120, so I guess it must be. He'd also be at 1900 or 2000 points if he had a crazy win streak like that. It still looks badass though.
That match history at sc2ranks goes by blzzard's sc2 bnet website, so it lags by a day or two. The rating points don't lag though.
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On September 26 2010 03:55 Jonoman92 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 03:48 synapse wrote:On September 25 2010 21:53 Nazza wrote: Boxer vs TLO!
*head explodes* One-sided rape much? Why would you say that? Do you even have any clue how good Boxer is at sc2? Boxer will show him what sick micro and creativity is really about
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Title should be "iloveOOv and BoxeR confirmed to have SC2 accounts", this is a very misleading thread.
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On September 26 2010 04:14 Longshank wrote: Title should be "iloveOOv and BoxeR confirmed to have SC2 accounts", this is a very misleading thread. Well, considering they're both about top 50 Korean ladder already, I think they are seriously considering it if they're going to grind that many games.
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Holy crap that is cool. ^^
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On September 26 2010 03:04 MangoTango wrote: Effort and MuMyung I'm confused about. I thought Effort was going back to school, and MuMyung is coaching a team isn't he? It probably just means that they have SC2 accounts, afaik foru is still a coach aswell and he has an account too (and has had it since beta even though idra was the one using it)
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I hope more retired bw progamers migrate to SC2. Thats the only way to add value to this game.
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cant wait to see boxer play 
boxer and nada are my favorite sc1 players
i remember have watch boxer micro dropship back in the old day , that was realy amazing 
what he can do in sc2 ?
boxer fighting !!!
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You have Effort on the other list. I thought he said he was retiring and not going to SC2. And Stork? No. Way. :D :D :D
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heh now i feel a reason to watch sc2
looking at this gsl i only know/care about rainbow/tester now
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Read that list, and I suddenly became really really really happy, weird. Or noe, not weird. Boxer is playing :D wooohooooo
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If boxer joins the next gsl it's over for all non-koreans.
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So eventually someone will post a boxer replay... and it will probably be him 1-basing against Protoss, and everyone will still find a way to drool at the creativity.
GSL2 lookin sexy though
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<-- was bored with SC2 ---> NO LONGER O_O
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I'm happy to see more pros getting into SC2, but I'm not sure why so many people are saying it's over for North American and European players, especially Team Liquid in Korea.
They'll put in just as much practice as the pros in Korea do while they are there, I expect good things from them all.
GL~
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LOL? iloveoov play 2v2 with himself xD
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Is Lucifer as in UD Lucifer who retired from War3 to be in the korean army? If so, awesome. I wonder if any other UDs are joining (FoV) =P
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didn't oov retire because of a wrist injury? either way, i'm glad he is back.
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On September 26 2010 04:08 FindingPride wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 03:56 DkH.ZeRa wrote: this is so fucking huge!
grubby and remind will switch too. there have never been so many progamers in one game. i've talked with remind. He has no interest in sc2
That is correct. Just because some switches doesnt mean ALL do. Remind is still loyal his main game -> WC3, which leaves me, hands down, with total respect for him for that shows that not only pricemoney and popularity should count for what game you play but passion. Remind ftw
On September 26 2010 05:05 Rising_Phoenix wrote: Is Lucifer as in UD Lucifer who retired from War3 to be in the korean army? If so, awesome. I wonder if any other UDs are joining (FoV) =P
Yes that is him, and he's always been my favourite UD player, even after he retired.
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Dear BW progamers,
Please wait until GSL Open S3 until completely destroying the SC2 scene. Let us puny, mortal foreigners have one last chance at the shining glory of a major Korean StarCraft title, like Guillaume before us. Then feel free to continue making a mockery of our comparatively insignificant skill.
Sincerely, godzillathrilla
P.S. Let us at least make ro16 before Rekrul gets to make another Foreigners Suck blog.
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Lucifer and Lyn playing SC2?! Totally amazing. My two fav wc3 players xD.
I think Lyn still has military ahead of him, though. Will be great to see lucifer play. Hopefully he plays zerg. His UD play style mostly fits z, so *crosses fingers*
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김대호 NewShowTime <-- IS THIS SHOWTIME.WERRA?
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On September 25 2010 22:38 Heen wrote: It's also interesting to note that Kim Tae Hyung, one of the main casters for OGN is playing under the ID Rainbow. There's no progamer with the same name, is there?
and one of the replies (I have no idea about the reliability) states: 김태형 해설위원에 의해면 대부분 하다고 하더군요.
which translates to: according to Kim Tae Hyung, most play.
'most' is vague but I assume it's talking about BW progamers.
Rainbow (or Rainbow[ROKA]) was the ID he used back when he was an active player in BW back in 98-99.
+ Show Spoiler [keeping for reference] +
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A note they may be playing for fun!!!! Not necessarily switching over professionally.
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wow...... and stork?! really?
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On September 26 2010 05:11 godzillathrilla wrote: Dear BW progamers,
Please wait until GSL Open S3 until completely destroying the SC2 scene. Let us puny, mortal foreigners have one last chance at the shining glory of a major Korean StarCraft title, like Guillaume before us. Then feel free to continue making a mockery of our comparatively insignificant skill.
Sincerely, godzillathrilla
P.S. Let us at least make ro16 before Rekrul gets to make another Foreigners Suck blog.
I think the sc2 scene will have some powerful foreign talent. We just have to keep the community growing and eventually some large-scale tournaments and leagues to rival Korea's might start in NA, or EU.
Also, Huk will be Grrr 2.0. I'm calling it now that he will be the first foreigner to win a sc2 title in Korea. Canadian Protoss boyyyyy
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Real or not he's very skilled.
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On September 26 2010 05:21 Siffer wrote: Lucifer and Lyn playing SC2?! Totally amazing. My two fav wc3 players xD.
I think Lyn still has military ahead of him, though. Will be great to see lucifer play. Hopefully he plays zerg. His UD play style mostly fits z, so *crosses fingers* Lucifer still in the army. and could u guys please stop overrating this? i mean it was obvious... and people like lyn lucifer are not playing it 2 become pro atm. they just play it for fun. having accounts doesnt mean they play it fulltime.
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On September 26 2010 05:44 Dionyseus wrote:Real or not he's very skilled. I say that's either shine or effort.
Also Miso is not cj's miso for anyone wondering, and if Midas' account is Midas his stats are quite underwhelming (below 1200 platinum, peaked in august and then his rating fell).
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wow that some serious talent about to hit the sc2 scene...
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korea wins. maybe boxer will be too old when SC3 comes out. Lets put our keyboards and mice away for another 10 years. The Emperor is back.
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On September 25 2010 21:48 Superouman wrote:now it's over for foreigners 
No way man, I'm sure Foreigners are going to be competitive since a lot of people are making houses for practice. There were a lot of good people outside of korea in earlier days of BW.
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Foreigner dominated Broodwar for 4 years. Foreigner dominated SC2 for 4 months.
GG.
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On September 26 2010 06:11 LunarDestiny wrote: Foreigner dominated Broodwar for 4 years. Foreigner dominated SC2 for 4 months.
GG.
Not even, you can't say we were better than koreans at any point during SC2, maybe competitive with them but not dominant.
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On September 26 2010 06:16 kaisr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 06:11 LunarDestiny wrote: Foreigner dominated Broodwar for 4 years. Foreigner dominated SC2 for 4 months.
GG. Not even, you can't say we were better than koreans at any point during SC2, maybe competitive with them but not dominant.
At least we (Canadians) got an OSL .
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On September 26 2010 06:11 LunarDestiny wrote: Foreigner dominated Broodwar for 4 years. Foreigner dominated SC2 for 4 months.
GG. False on both accounts.
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I think that we must not sell the chickens before they hatch, I mean, there is still hope for foreigners. The only thing I'm worried about is that Huk won't participate in gsl until some months early 2011 iirc. until then he absolutely needs to step up his game, and spend more time on korean ladder.
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I feel like people are overreacting and just jumping to conclusions. Yes, people play SC2. Does that mean they plan to play it competitively/professionally? No. The teams are on break right now, and I'm sure most of the BW pros were at least curious about SC2 and wanted to try it out. We also know that these guys are some serious gamers with their 8-10+ hour days of practice, so these guys aren't going to play a game or two, they're gonna go crazy. Until, I see some official statements/gsl registration from these players I'm not jumping to any conclusions.
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Boxer, really? I bet he's just playing for fun now. Age adds up and I don't think he could be as dominant as he used to be 9 years ago.
EffOrt moving to SC2 would be epic though, I bet he picks terran until the game becomes more balanced towards zerg.
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On September 26 2010 06:11 LunarDestiny wrote: Foreigner dominated Broodwar for 4 years. Foreigner dominated SC2 for 4 months.
GG.
Foreigner dominated BW for 4 years? When did that happen?
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On September 26 2010 06:32 bokchoi wrote: I feel like people are overreacting and just jumping to conclusions. Yes, people play SC2. Does that mean they plan to play it competitively/professionally? No. The teams are on break right now, and I'm sure most of the BW pros were at least curious about SC2 and wanted to try it out. We also know that these guys are some serious gamers with their 8-10+ hour days of practice, so these guys aren't going to play a game or two, they're gonna go crazy. Until, I see some official statements/gsl registration from these players I'm not jumping to any conclusions.
This. Seriously, people are jumping to conclusions WAY too fast here, especially considering this is BW's offseason.
Just renamed the thread and edited the OP to make that a little more accurate.
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I find it quite poetic that so many Broodwar players are playing SC2 for fun. Just something interesting to point out I guess.
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Beast.
iloveoov and boxer are 4th and 5th in korea for win ratio, pretty crazy to have a 65% win rate over there from what I understand.
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On September 26 2010 06:32 bokchoi wrote: I feel like people are overreacting and just jumping to conclusions. Yes, people play SC2. Does that mean they plan to play it competitively/professionally? No. The teams are on break right now, and I'm sure most of the BW pros were at least curious about SC2 and wanted to try it out. We also know that these guys are some serious gamers with their 8-10+ hour days of practice, so these guys aren't going to play a game or two, they're gonna go crazy. Until, I see some official statements/gsl registration from these players I'm not jumping to any conclusions.
Do you think Boxer makes as much money as Flash these days? He is exploring SC2 to see if he can be a viable Pro, because he has to pay the bills. Plus, Boxer has nothing to lose by switching over to SC2 if BW Pro League collapses. If Boxer dominates the SC2 scene (of course, that's a big IF), he stands to make way more money than he makes now. Also, if Boxer performs well in the early phase of SC2's competitive years, he will garner respect as a SC2 player, and this will position him well for a coaching spot on a SC2 team as he ages.
Realistically, BW Pro league has less than a year in the best case. In the worst case, BW Pro League may go on for 3 to 6 months longer. With coaches quitting BW left and right, and teams disbanding left and right, and the public's interest switching over to SC2, it's a matter of time until the sponsors pull their plug on BW. Nada already foresaw this and that's why Nada declined resigning with Wemade, even though Wemade begged Nada to stay. Boxer is just looking out for himself because he knows that BW Pro League's future is in doubt at this point.
Boxer's "exploring" of SC2 makes a lot of sense. In fact, I expect him to make an official announcement of his switchover before GSL season 2 starts.
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On September 26 2010 06:46 StarcraftMan wrote: Realistically, BW Pro league has less than a year in the best case. In the worst case, BW Pro League may go on for 3 to 6 months longer. With coaches quitting BW left and right, and teams disbanding left and right, and the public's interest switching over to SC2, it's a matter of time until the sponsors pull their plug on BW.
Your statements are mostly incorrect. A few coaches were replaced. One team might be disbanded. The public's (as in korean, since we're talking BW proleague public) interest, as far as we know, doesn't seem too much concerned about SC2 yet.
The only time we can start making constructive, non-baseless arguments about what state BW is in will be when its new season actually starts.
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HOMG stork and effort? :O
that's amazing so many of 'em are playing. but then again, it's not that insane to think that they'd wanna play some other random video games to pass the time when they're not practicing.
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Wait is it just me or are most of these Pros all terran? Were they all terran in BW ?
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boxer as in the famous slayers boxer?
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I agree with people who want to remain calm.
Surely more than one name is actually confirmed and those players might be trying SC2, but does not mean going to sign on to the next GSL. Maybe not at 12 following ...
On the other hand you can do the test. Search any name in SC2Ranks: Flash, Pure, Calm, Light, ... many of them are generic words that any user can log into the game. If you put "Reach" in the search, you can find 20 people with the same name and so the majority of cases.
If one of those players is between 1000 and 1500 points in Diamond, he automatically has to be Reach?
Stay calm.
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This is such good news for SC2. :D
Can't wait!
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On September 26 2010 09:27 Mr.X wrote: I agree with people who want to remain calm.
Surely more than one name is actually confirmed and those players might be trying SC2, but does not mean going to sign on to the next GSL. Maybe not at 12 following ...
On the other hand you can do the test. Search any name in SC2Ranks: Flash, Pure, Calm, Light, ... many of them are generic words that any user can log into the game. If you put "Reach" in the search, you can find 20 people with the same name and so the majority of cases.
If one of those players is between 1000 and 1500 points in Diamond, he automatically has to be Reach?
Stay calm.
If you look at the original post, Heen claims that he talked to a coach on the NEX team. If you trust in Heen (and the TL admins have not locked this thread so perhaps they trust Heen), then perhaps his news has some credibility.
In addition, Milkis has already posted that Boxer was rumoured to be switching to SC2:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=151303
So far, Milkis' post correctly predicted that JulyZerg and Nada would switch to SC2. That's 2 out of 3 confirmed, with Boxer unconfirmed at the moment..
Combining Heen's information and Milkis' information, it is very credible that Boxer is minimally playing SC2, if not outright switching to SC2.
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On September 26 2010 05:07 LittleeD wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 04:08 FindingPride wrote:On September 26 2010 03:56 DkH.ZeRa wrote: this is so fucking huge!
grubby and remind will switch too. there have never been so many progamers in one game. i've talked with remind. He has no interest in sc2 That is correct. Just because some switches doesnt mean ALL do. Remind is still loyal his main game -> WC3, which leaves me, hands down, with total respect for him for that shows that not only pricemoney and popularity should count for what game you play but passion. Remind ftw yeah because switching to a new game means its always about money and popularity right?
Having fun has nothing to do with it of course!
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On September 25 2010 21:49 mierin wrote:Boxer is gonna out-TLO TLO 
You mean, TLO is going to get out-Boxered by Boxer. After all, it was Boxer who did it first .
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thats a lot of good people :D gogo sc2
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Ah if Stork does a switch I think I'll have a fan freak out of an epic nature. Stork will bring the carrier back! muwahahaaha
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I just want to see Flash player SC2 Thats all
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On September 26 2010 10:37 Vz0 wrote:I just want to see Flash player SC2 Thats all  he said he would when he accomplishes everything he wants to in sc1. then again, he finds something more he wants to do everytime he accomplishes more. so probably when kespa crumbles flash will rise from it's ashes as a sc2 powerhouse.
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It's exciting to know that these guys are at LEAST trying out SC2 .
Anyone know who this Korean 'Flutter' guy is who's #9 on the world ladder rank at the moment? He just appeared there seemingly overnight .
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Im protoss but even i CANNOT WAIT to see boxer revolutionise another game and tear everything up like its nothing GOGOGGOOG!! hell yeahhhh
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Funny how #3 and #6 are Slayer and Boxer ? lol
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why does everyone think they will actually play at competative level. I don't get it.
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What a list. But I'm not surprise by this. SC2 is in open beta in KR, I think most of the retired pro have a account on SC2. They will definately try it out. I doubt the if Boxer or oov will success in SC2. But pro like Stork, Flash, Jaedong will be huge in SC2 once they switch
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On September 26 2010 10:58 Sqq wrote: why does everyone think they will actually play at competative level. I don't get it.
Because people like Tester and Cool whom were nobodies in SC1 are all of a sudden top SC2 players. So why can't 2 Bonjwas?
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On September 26 2010 11:05 zerious wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 10:58 Sqq wrote: why does everyone think they will actually play at competative level. I don't get it. Because people like Tester and Cool whom were nobodies in SC1 are all of a sudden top SC2 players. So why can't 2 Bonjwas?
Have they confirmed they are going pro ? And not just playing casual beside their normal lifes ?
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omfg...stork, boxer, midas, effort, and MOON?
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Boxer has over 500 games, that's a lot of SC2 to be playing if he's not switching over.
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On September 26 2010 11:09 Sqq wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 11:05 zerious wrote:On September 26 2010 10:58 Sqq wrote: why does everyone think they will actually play at competative level. I don't get it. Because people like Tester and Cool whom were nobodies in SC1 are all of a sudden top SC2 players. So why can't 2 Bonjwas? Have they confirmed they are going pro ? And not just playing casual beside their normal lifes ?
No, this is all speculation.
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yeah... iloveoov and boxer are just gonna play sc2 casually on the side... hahahaha. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? You think that is actually going to happen? Get real.
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I'm looking forward to seeing any replays from Moon playing.. he was insane in wc3, and very very creative.
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your missing july and into the rainbow, but anyway this is great news, as i loved BW but it's sc2 time
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On September 26 2010 12:05 Slago wrote:your missing july and into the rainbow, but anyway this is great news, as i loved BW but it's sc2 time 
intotherainbow is in the gsl and we know about july's transition so no mention needed to be made.
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WAS FUN WHILE IT LASTED, FOREIGNERS. GOOD MEMORIES IN SC2 INDEED.
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On September 26 2010 12:34 hkfosho wrote: WAS FUN WHILE IT LASTED, FOREIGNERS. GOOD MEMORIES IN SC2 INDEED. ^ this guy isn't even going to get warned?
On topic: Does anyone know what happened to upmagic and the other dude that artosis did a video about? How are they doing on the ladder?
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On September 26 2010 11:24 Gatsbi wrote: yeah... iloveoov and boxer are just gonna play sc2 casually on the side... hahahaha. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? You think that is actually going to happen? Get real.
QFT.
Another aspect of them competing is that they are securing future coaching jobs or manager jobs for themselves. If they are going to coach or manage SC2 players, they need to know the game inside and out.
I expect Boxer and iloveoov to compete at least in the first year. Thereafter, they will be in a good position to obtain a coaching job.
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I'm curious about whether or not they'll go pro in SC2. Very curious....
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YES! I want to scream Lim Yo-Hwan!!!! Super exciting to see these two legendary terran players actually putting up a fight in the ladder. Hopefull we will all get to see them on the scene soon aswell.
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OMG BOXER IS PLAYING SC2? ORGASM
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On September 26 2010 13:46 TheAngelofDeath wrote: I'm curious about whether or not they'll go pro in SC2. Very curious.... Yea we'll just have to wait and see :D
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Of course Effort would have a SC2 account. He is not with broodwar anymore. I am sure he can afford 60 dollars for a SC2 copy and own noobie 1500+ Korean diamond players for casual entertainment while he decide what he will do for his future career.
Of course...if he really want some quick money, 85 grand in US dollars in fact, I suppose he wouldn't mind dedicating couple more months of his life to gaming...and walk away with the trophy.
Face it, if Effort REALLY want to play SC2 right now, I don't see anybody being able to stop him. This is a true S-class player we are talking about.
I just hope Boxer will enter GSL. GomTV is probably praying for that too. Their ticket sale is guaranteed to at least quadruple if Boxer/Nada/JulyZerg enter the fray.
Let's be honest here, old legends like Boxer reviving with SC2 may just be what e-sports really need right now. It needs an injection of the old timers' charm, charisma, creativity and giant fanbase.
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It might not be confirmed but it's pretty practical to think so.
The bw season has just ended, and a lot of contracts are expiring. An old legend with incredible mechanics\game-sense (relative to GSL season 1 players, but not their BW opponents) can make lots of money against an easy field. They could also regain their popularity and get sponsorships if they make an impact.
GSL seems to be their best option.
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Boxer Nada Iloveoov, some of my favourite players. Great news for sc2 not so great for broodwar
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On September 26 2010 14:35 darklordjac wrote: Boxer Nada Iloveoov, some of my favourite players. Great news for sc2 not so great for broodwar
What? You prefer them to stay on benches and rot away instead?
Iloveoov isn't entering SC2 for sure. He has responsibility to the SKT terran line. I don't see what's stopping Boxer from entering SC2.
Fingers crossed for Boxer's revival. GomTV can count on my ticket purchase if Boxer gets into GSL.
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On September 26 2010 13:45 Vz0 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 12:34 hkfosho wrote: WAS FUN WHILE IT LASTED, FOREIGNERS. GOOD MEMORIES IN SC2 INDEED. ^ this guy isn't even going to get warned? On topic: Does anyone know what happened to upmagic and the other dude that artosis did a video about? How are they doing on the ladder?
This is actually of interest. Any word on what happened to SangHo? From the interview it sounded like he was most certainly interested in making the switch.
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On September 26 2010 14:26 ShaperofDreams wrote: It might not be confirmed but it's pretty practical to think so.
No its not, its idiotic. Especially since he said himself that he's not leaving BW for SC2 but for completely unrelated reasons outside of progaming in general. If its really him, yeah it means he can just casually tune in now and again and still whoop ass. Its your choice as to which outcome you choose to believe, but its one or the other. No other option exists, nor any argument that can be made.
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To me it's pretty obvious Boxer is going to at least consider switching to SC2.
It puzzles me why people would think that progamers will always stick to the game they got known for and thus will never be able to enjoy another RTS. Whether you admit it or not, Boxer's role in BW is done. Most see him as some God that represents everything good about BW but you have to realise he's also a progamer and will play any game he can be competitive in. Part of the fun of playing is winning, and SC2 being less APM demanding gives a strategic mastermind as him a better shot at playing the top again. SC2 is also the upcoming game where there's a living to be made, while BW is (unfortunately) crumbling. As much as you might see it as betrayal, these guys have done nothing but play RTS games all their life. If (when) BW disappears they'll have no source of income. Even if he doesn't succeed at competing at the highest level, at least it gives him the option to be a coach on a new team (maybe SKT1 is preparing for SC2? We can dream).
Boxer is also one to please his fans, and what better place to do that than in a new uncharted game that's somehow reminiscent of BW It's not like SKT1 is going to let him play any televised games anywhere soon.
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nub question, whats sc1 prizepool in the GSL compared to sc2?
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On September 26 2010 14:21 dukethegold wrote: Of course Effort would have a SC2 account. He is not with broodwar anymore. I am sure he can afford 60 dollars for a SC2 copy and own noobie 1500+ Korean diamond players for casual entertainment while he decide what he will do for his future career.
Of course...if he really want some quick money, 85 grand in US dollars in fact, I suppose he wouldn't mind dedicating couple more months of his life to gaming...and walk away with the trophy.
Face it, if Effort REALLY want to play SC2 right now, I don't see anybody being able to stop him. This is a true S-class player we are talking about.
Exactly what I'm thinking. It all really adds up. Effort would have no chance of winning another individual league (can't beat Jaedong in ZvZ, could possibly lose to Stork in PvZ, would probably struggle hard against Leta/Sea/Light, Flash isn't dumb and would not lose like he did again doing two risky builds in a row) nor would CJ Entus win proleague without Coach Cho.
So you go quit while you still can, spend a month learning SC2, play a season of GSL and bash some scrub players to win a pretty easy ~$100,000 then do whatever you want with your life. Not only does Effort has experience in series matches and typical zerg play, he has raw mechanics (micro, macro, multitasking) that not a single person in the GSL is even close to having.
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On September 26 2010 15:07 Womwomwom wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 14:21 dukethegold wrote: Of course Effort would have a SC2 account. He is not with broodwar anymore. I am sure he can afford 60 dollars for a SC2 copy and own noobie 1500+ Korean diamond players for casual entertainment while he decide what he will do for his future career.
Of course...if he really want some quick money, 85 grand in US dollars in fact, I suppose he wouldn't mind dedicating couple more months of his life to gaming...and walk away with the trophy.
Face it, if Effort REALLY want to play SC2 right now, I don't see anybody being able to stop him. This is a true S-class player we are talking about. Exactly what I'm thinking. It all really adds up. Effort would have no chance of winning another individual league (can't beat Jaedong in ZvZ, could possibly lose to Stork in PvZ, would probably struggle hard against Leta/Sea/Light, Flash isn't dumb and would not lose like he did again doing two risky builds in a row) nor would CJ Entus win proleague without Coach Cho. So you go quit while you still can, spend a month learning SC2, play a season of GSL and bash some scrub players to win a pretty easy ~$100,000 then do whatever you want with your life. Not only does Effort has experience in series matches and typical zerg play, he has raw mechanics (micro, macro, multitasking) that not a single person in the GSL is even close to having.
I doubt it would be that easy to be honest.
There are a lot of good players now with more and more BW pros coming over. If Effort has played a lot less than the other guys what makes you think he will come out on top?
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On September 26 2010 15:22 Rarak wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 15:07 Womwomwom wrote:On September 26 2010 14:21 dukethegold wrote: Of course Effort would have a SC2 account. He is not with broodwar anymore. I am sure he can afford 60 dollars for a SC2 copy and own noobie 1500+ Korean diamond players for casual entertainment while he decide what he will do for his future career.
Of course...if he really want some quick money, 85 grand in US dollars in fact, I suppose he wouldn't mind dedicating couple more months of his life to gaming...and walk away with the trophy.
Face it, if Effort REALLY want to play SC2 right now, I don't see anybody being able to stop him. This is a true S-class player we are talking about. Exactly what I'm thinking. It all really adds up. Effort would have no chance of winning another individual league (can't beat Jaedong in ZvZ, could possibly lose to Stork in PvZ, would probably struggle hard against Leta/Sea/Light, Flash isn't dumb and would not lose like he did again doing two risky builds in a row) nor would CJ Entus win proleague without Coach Cho. So you go quit while you still can, spend a month learning SC2, play a season of GSL and bash some scrub players to win a pretty easy ~$100,000 then do whatever you want with your life. Not only does Effort has experience in series matches and typical zerg play, he has raw mechanics (micro, macro, multitasking) that not a single person in the GSL is even close to having. I doubt it would be that easy to be honest. There are a lot of good players now with more and more BW pros coming over. If Effort has played a lot less than the other guys what makes you think he will come out on top?
He only detailed it for you in the last paragraph he wrote, Rarak.
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I have to say i have doubts about the "effort plays sc2" camp. But that doesn't stop me from hoping, right? 
I really do think he could come in, sweep the floor with everyone on his way to the finals and walk away with a nice sum of cash.
As for the other players: fuck yea, boxer and oov!
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Even if they are not changing to SC2 proffessionally, it is a good sign for SC2. People playing for fun and competing against eachother on the ladder. Isnt that the reason how BW got successfull in the first place, by people enjoying the game?
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NaDa didn´t join any team because he´s waiting for the real me and Gorilla, after that there is no way to balancing sc2 even if they removed barracks from the game.
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Stork Mother Fucking Fighting.
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On September 26 2010 03:48 synapse wrote:One-sided rape much? Seems you dont really read all posts. As I said earlier, TLO stated that its 50/50. Which tells us, that Boxer is pretty good right now, but not that godlike as he was in BW.
You may ask him yourself, he gave that information to fragster.de.
Still one question: Will GomTV show, who signs in for GSL2. So not just who makes it to the Round-of-64 but who signs in for the tournament. Would be interesting to check the names and maybe see some well-known names.
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On September 26 2010 20:44 Varmendrion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 03:48 synapse wrote:On September 25 2010 21:53 Nazza wrote: Boxer vs TLO!
*head explodes* One-sided rape much? Seems you dont really read all posts. As I said earlier, TLO stated that its 50/50. Which tells us, that Boxer is pretty good right now, but not that godlike as he was in BW. You may ask him yourself, he gave that information to fragster.de. Still one question: Will GomTV show, who signs in for GSL2. So not just who makes it to the Round-of-64 but who signs in for the tournament. Would be interesting to check the names and maybe see some well-known names.
Yes the names of all the "offline" participants were available. So whoever tries their hand at GSL 2 will be made public.
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wonder why boxer chose the name manofoneway when we all know thats the most contradicting name he could have when talking about starcraft XD.
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sc2 seems to reward experience and creativity so far, so I won't be surprised if they kick ass in GSL in the next year or two. What i'm very curious about is: who will be the best terran between Boxer and Flash in sc2? I can't wait to see what happens.
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On September 27 2010 09:20 Raiznhell wrote: wonder why boxer chose the name manofoneway when we all know thats the most contradicting name he could have when talking about starcraft XD. I think it's stated in this thread that Manofoneway is the name of his girlfriend/fiance's Lineage guild.
But ya, funny stuff
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On September 27 2010 09:37 Tump wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2010 09:20 Raiznhell wrote: wonder why boxer chose the name manofoneway when we all know thats the most contradicting name he could have when talking about starcraft XD. I think it's stated in this thread that Manofoneway is the name of his girlfriend/fiance's Lineage guild. But ya, funny stuff 
People still play Lineage o_o
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On September 27 2010 09:39 StatiC)Ex( wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2010 09:37 Tump wrote:On September 27 2010 09:20 Raiznhell wrote: wonder why boxer chose the name manofoneway when we all know thats the most contradicting name he could have when talking about starcraft XD. I think it's stated in this thread that Manofoneway is the name of his girlfriend/fiance's Lineage guild. But ya, funny stuff  People still play Lineage o_o Maybe it's Lineage2 I didn't see that in this thread either apparently by my detective Ctrl +F skills... wonder where I read it?!
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edit: nevermind forgot that they don't count beta.
I should also point out, just because the Japanese dominate fighting games doesn't stop fighting game tourneys (ie. Evo) from cropping up and getting attention. No cause to worry IMO about the foreign scene.
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On September 26 2010 14:59 Saechiis wrote: There's no SC1 GSL ...
Yes there is.
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On September 27 2010 11:58 ckw wrote:Yes there is.
What?
Do you mean the averatec-intel classic that ran on gom? Thats in fact the averatec-intel classic, and not GSL. GSL has no SC1 component.
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On September 26 2010 17:33 Platypus wrote: Stork Mother Fucking Fighting.
:OOOOOOOOOOOO
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Birdtoss tiiime to anhilate (once your current contract runs out t.t)
Eeee. Sc2 seems like it would suit him really well too.
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Honestly unless Boxer/Nada/July are completely mind blowingly awesome, I don't see them making that big of an impact on the scene. Judging by Boxer's stats, he is very good but not the untouchable god people are making him out to be, which is understandable since I presume he doesn't play SC2 full time.
However, what SC2 needs now is a new Boxer who will revolutionize the way we see SC2 the way Boxer did, and considering the state of QQ at the moment that messiah would have to be Zerg. A lot of big names came at a time when their races were considered weak and they brought some new playstyle that made people rethink the game.
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On September 27 2010 17:07 Ocedic wrote: However, what SC2 needs now is a new Boxer who will revolutionize the way we see SC2 the way Boxer did, and considering the state of QQ at the moment that messiah would have to be Zerg. A lot of big names came at a time when their races were considered weak and they brought some new playstyle that made people rethink the game.
Nope, that was only Boxer, Savior and Bisu
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Ok, now what I want to know is when will we get some replays of these fine gentlemen?
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This is cool, but why are people so surprised that people so involved in the original. Didn`t expect them to dabble in the next version? It would be weird if they didn`t lol :D
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This is such a pointless thread.
Who in the world would anyone imagine that people who played broodwar PROFESSIONALLY would not get sc2 accounts? Why would they not be interested in the slightest in playing the game to see what it feels like? They have no curiosity? In fact, the opposite would be thread worthy "boxer and oov: 'we're boycotting sc2'" that would be news.
It doesn't imply that their moving over in the least. That WOULD also be news.
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On September 28 2010 05:17 mint_julep wrote: This is such a pointless thread.
Who in the world would anyone imagine that people who played broodwar PROFESSIONALLY would not get sc2 accounts? Why would they not be interested in the slightest in playing the game to see what it feels like? They have no curiosity? In fact, the opposite would be thread worthy "boxer and oov: 'we're boycotting sc2'" that would be news.
It doesn't imply that their moving over in the least. That WOULD also be news. Well of course it's interesting to know which progamers are trying SC2 out, and since you can see how much they played you can see if they like it and might seriously considering switching over or not.
It's a lot of speculation involved obviously but whatever, it's worthy a thread for sure. Boxer and oov have played lots of games and gotten to the top in korea at the game (if you only look at ladder stats). That is not an easy task and worthy to note for sure.
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On September 28 2010 05:17 mint_julep wrote: This is such a pointless thread.
Who in the world would anyone imagine that people who played broodwar PROFESSIONALLY would not get sc2 accounts? Why would they not be interested in the slightest in playing the game to see what it feels like? They have no curiosity? In fact, the opposite would be thread worthy "boxer and oov: 'we're boycotting sc2'" that would be news.
It doesn't imply that their moving over in the least. That WOULD also be news.
Except they are supposedly prohibited by their teams due to clash of interests. So yes, it is interesting if some of them did play SC2, even on a recreational basis.
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The strongest SC2 Players until next year WILL and ALWAYS WILL be Tester Idra Cool (well maybe ITR and CLIDE)
They just have such a margain above everyone else. Nada julyzerg boxer iloveoove wouldn't even come close to these guys anytime soon.
Again this is my personal opinion do not bann me thank you very much.
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On September 28 2010 06:10 Vz0 wrote: The strongest SC2 Players until next year WILL and ALWAYS WILL be Tester Idra Cool (well maybe ITR and CLIDE)
They just have such a margain above everyone else. Nada julyzerg boxer iloveoove wouldn't even come close to these guys anytime soon.
Again this is my personal opinion do not bann me thank you very much.
Haha that's a fucking joke.
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On September 28 2010 06:10 Vz0 wrote: The strongest SC2 Players until next year WILL and ALWAYS WILL be Tester Idra Cool (well maybe ITR and CLIDE)
They just have such a margain above everyone else. Nada julyzerg boxer iloveoove wouldn't even come close to these guys anytime soon.
Again this is my personal opinion do not bann me thank you very much.
I don't think anyone will ban you for having your opinion, but it's ignorant and foolish to assume that just because someone has a 2 month headstart means they will always be the best, especially when these guys practice 12 hours a day, are significantly smarter, faster, more efficient, and have game sense on a level that idra will not be able to compete with.
Once these ex BW A teamers/bonjwas get past the "learning" part of the game and start getting to the point where they know and scout build orders and react, they will be significantly ahead of the others. Meaning I give them ~2 months and they'll be at the top, if not much much sooner.
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On September 28 2010 13:46 Domonic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 06:10 Vz0 wrote: The strongest SC2 Players until next year WILL and ALWAYS WILL be Tester Idra Cool (well maybe ITR and CLIDE)
They just have such a margain above everyone else. Nada julyzerg boxer iloveoove wouldn't even come close to these guys anytime soon.
Again this is my personal opinion do not bann me thank you very much. Haha that's a fucking joke.
offtopic, bashing, not contributing to this thread whatsoever. If you go a different idea, say it.
On September 28 2010 13:52 ZlaSHeR wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 06:10 Vz0 wrote: The strongest SC2 Players until next year WILL and ALWAYS WILL be Tester Idra Cool (well maybe ITR and CLIDE)
They just have such a margain above everyone else. Nada julyzerg boxer iloveoove wouldn't even come close to these guys anytime soon.
Again this is my personal opinion do not bann me thank you very much. I don't think anyone will ban you for having your opinion, but it's ignorant and foolish to assume that just because someone has a 2 month headstart means they will always be the best, especially when these guys practice 12 hours a day, are significantly smarter, faster, more efficient, and have game sense on a level that idra will not be able to compete with. Once these ex BW A teamers/bonjwas get past the "learning" part of the game and start getting to the point where they know and scout build orders and react, they will be significantly ahead of the others. Meaning I give them ~2 months and they'll be at the top, if not much much sooner.
1.) how is it ignorant? What knowledge and I missing in making this assumption? 2.) how is it foolish? We've seen tester play, we've seen idra player, we've seen cool player. have we seen boxer/oov play sc2? Nope
If anybody heres ignorant it is you.
"significan'ty smarter, faster, more efficient, game sense".
I just ultra lols here.
How bias and fanboyed can you be to believe that BoXer is smarter than Tester. YOU HAVE NO PROOF of that. You know that boxer was better at starcraft broodwar. Just because he was good at broodwar that means hes smarter? What lol? Stephen Hawkings vs NaDa anyone?
Faster? Proof? Tester is playing 300apm. That fast enough for you? More efficient? Lol as far as we've seen, Tester has held off 2 of the most devasting cheeses by doing the perfect moves and the perfect time. What have we seen of boxer and oov in sc2? Nothing. right. Shut up and don't bash please?
Am I here bashing Boxer and OoV fanboys ? No. I clearly said that next year we will really see these people shine. Tester has been playing starcraft 2 since march/april ish.
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Off-topic but looks like Idra's new EGIdrA account is already at #99 with a 67-28 record, pretty impressive.
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On September 28 2010 14:04 DueleR wrote:Off-topic but looks like Idra's new EGIdrA account is already at #99 with a 67-28 record, pretty impressive. TLO 170 and climbing !!! IdrA's record on the NA server is still insane (even though hes not active anymore)
I can't wait to see how HuK will compare in the korean ladder once he moves over there.
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I am so excited about this. If Boxer do come to the SC2 competitive scene, I am ready to go to Korea to watch his games. The thrill of it all!
BOXER forever
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Yeah #8 on the Korean ladder is "dabbling"
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Hehe, I wonder if HuK will have enough time to be in Top10 on KR, EU and NA.
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Stork playing doesnt suprise me
He probally just plays some during offseason like he did with WoW
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On September 28 2010 13:59 Vz0 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 13:46 Domonic wrote:On September 28 2010 06:10 Vz0 wrote: The strongest SC2 Players until next year WILL and ALWAYS WILL be Tester Idra Cool (well maybe ITR and CLIDE)
They just have such a margain above everyone else. Nada julyzerg boxer iloveoove wouldn't even come close to these guys anytime soon.
Again this is my personal opinion do not bann me thank you very much. Haha that's a fucking joke. offtopic, bashing, not contributing to this thread whatsoever. If you go a different idea, say it. Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 13:52 ZlaSHeR wrote:On September 28 2010 06:10 Vz0 wrote: The strongest SC2 Players until next year WILL and ALWAYS WILL be Tester Idra Cool (well maybe ITR and CLIDE)
They just have such a margain above everyone else. Nada julyzerg boxer iloveoove wouldn't even come close to these guys anytime soon.
Again this is my personal opinion do not bann me thank you very much. I don't think anyone will ban you for having your opinion, but it's ignorant and foolish to assume that just because someone has a 2 month headstart means they will always be the best, especially when these guys practice 12 hours a day, are significantly smarter, faster, more efficient, and have game sense on a level that idra will not be able to compete with. Once these ex BW A teamers/bonjwas get past the "learning" part of the game and start getting to the point where they know and scout build orders and react, they will be significantly ahead of the others. Meaning I give them ~2 months and they'll be at the top, if not much much sooner. 1.) how is it ignorant? What knowledge and I missing in making this assumption? 2.) how is it foolish? We've seen tester play, we've seen idra player, we've seen cool player. have we seen boxer/oov play sc2? Nope If anybody heres ignorant it is you. "significan'ty smarter, faster, more efficient, game sense". I just ultra lols here. How bias and fanboyed can you be to believe that BoXer is smarter than Tester. YOU HAVE NO PROOF of that. You know that boxer was better at starcraft broodwar. Just because he was good at broodwar that means hes smarter? What lol? Stephen Hawkings vs NaDa anyone? Faster? Proof? Tester is playing 300apm. That fast enough for you? More efficient? Lol as far as we've seen, Tester has held off 2 of the most devasting cheeses by doing the perfect moves and the perfect time. What have we seen of boxer and oov in sc2? Nothing. right. Shut up and don't bash please? Am I here bashing Boxer and OoV fanboys ? No. I clearly said that next year we will really see these people shine. Tester has been playing starcraft 2 since march/april ish.
Offtopic? I was directly responding to your post, saying that is a fucking joke that brood war legends will not come close to random starcraft 2 players new to the scene. Bashing? When did I bash you? Grow a pair. It's already been said, but boxer is already top 8 in korea.
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Amazing what ex-pros in a different game can do with just a little dabbling...
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On September 28 2010 13:59 Vz0 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 13:46 Domonic wrote:On September 28 2010 06:10 Vz0 wrote: The strongest SC2 Players until next year WILL and ALWAYS WILL be Tester Idra Cool (well maybe ITR and CLIDE)
They just have such a margain above everyone else. Nada julyzerg boxer iloveoove wouldn't even come close to these guys anytime soon.
Again this is my personal opinion do not bann me thank you very much. Haha that's a fucking joke. offtopic, bashing, not contributing to this thread whatsoever. If you go a different idea, say it. Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 13:52 ZlaSHeR wrote:On September 28 2010 06:10 Vz0 wrote: The strongest SC2 Players until next year WILL and ALWAYS WILL be Tester Idra Cool (well maybe ITR and CLIDE)
They just have such a margain above everyone else. Nada julyzerg boxer iloveoove wouldn't even come close to these guys anytime soon.
Again this is my personal opinion do not bann me thank you very much. I don't think anyone will ban you for having your opinion, but it's ignorant and foolish to assume that just because someone has a 2 month headstart means they will always be the best, especially when these guys practice 12 hours a day, are significantly smarter, faster, more efficient, and have game sense on a level that idra will not be able to compete with. Once these ex BW A teamers/bonjwas get past the "learning" part of the game and start getting to the point where they know and scout build orders and react, they will be significantly ahead of the others. Meaning I give them ~2 months and they'll be at the top, if not much much sooner. 1.) how is it ignorant? What knowledge and I missing in making this assumption? 2.) how is it foolish? We've seen tester play, we've seen idra player, we've seen cool player. have we seen boxer/oov play sc2? Nope If anybody heres ignorant it is you. "significan'ty smarter, faster, more efficient, game sense". I just ultra lols here. How bias and fanboyed can you be to believe that BoXer is smarter than Tester. YOU HAVE NO PROOF of that. You know that boxer was better at starcraft broodwar. Just because he was good at broodwar that means hes smarter? What lol? Stephen Hawkings vs NaDa anyone? Faster? Proof? Tester is playing 300apm. That fast enough for you? More efficient? Lol as far as we've seen, Tester has held off 2 of the most devasting cheeses by doing the perfect moves and the perfect time. What have we seen of boxer and oov in sc2? Nothing. right. Shut up and don't bash please? Am I here bashing Boxer and OoV fanboys ? No. I clearly said that next year we will really see these people shine. Tester has been playing starcraft 2 since march/april ish. He obviously meant Boxer has smarter play. Tester and Boxer given same situation (a unplanned one) Boxer would react my calmly manner and will make better decisions. Why? Because he's is/was the black sheep out of 100 sheep. There are a lot of BW players who have worked 12 hrs a day to become the best player, sadly depite the 'Effort' (see what I did there) they will never become bonjwas and most of them, even they practice 15 hrs a day, will remain B players. They may or may not have the talent but by chance, by pure chance a person just has more talent (smarter) when playing SC and born to be one (assuming they both put in the same effort). You may think no one is born to be good at SC, because that's rediculous! But 'by chance' someone has better at multitasking, are good at making quick decisions and has overall understanding of the flow of any situation. These are the attributes that makes a good SC player and a person could be born to be good at these things and could improve further with effort or even learn/attain these attributes faster than others. Smart, in terms of SC or any RTS Genre, yes Boxer is undoubtably 'smarter'. Though like other definitions of smart, if you don't put effort into it, being smart does absolutely nothing.
That being said, I agree with the fact they will not start owning everyone right away. It takes dedication and time to become a good player, talent or no talent.
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On September 28 2010 13:59 Vz0 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 13:46 Domonic wrote:On September 28 2010 06:10 Vz0 wrote: The strongest SC2 Players until next year WILL and ALWAYS WILL be Tester Idra Cool (well maybe ITR and CLIDE)
They just have such a margain above everyone else. Nada julyzerg boxer iloveoove wouldn't even come close to these guys anytime soon.
Again this is my personal opinion do not bann me thank you very much. Haha that's a fucking joke. offtopic, bashing, not contributing to this thread whatsoever. If you go a different idea, say it. Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 13:52 ZlaSHeR wrote:On September 28 2010 06:10 Vz0 wrote: The strongest SC2 Players until next year WILL and ALWAYS WILL be Tester Idra Cool (well maybe ITR and CLIDE)
They just have such a margain above everyone else. Nada julyzerg boxer iloveoove wouldn't even come close to these guys anytime soon.
Again this is my personal opinion do not bann me thank you very much. I don't think anyone will ban you for having your opinion, but it's ignorant and foolish to assume that just because someone has a 2 month headstart means they will always be the best, especially when these guys practice 12 hours a day, are significantly smarter, faster, more efficient, and have game sense on a level that idra will not be able to compete with. Once these ex BW A teamers/bonjwas get past the "learning" part of the game and start getting to the point where they know and scout build orders and react, they will be significantly ahead of the others. Meaning I give them ~2 months and they'll be at the top, if not much much sooner. 1.) how is it ignorant? What knowledge and I missing in making this assumption? 2.) how is it foolish? We've seen tester play, we've seen idra player, we've seen cool player. have we seen boxer/oov play sc2? Nope If anybody heres ignorant it is you. "significan'ty smarter, faster, more efficient, game sense". I just ultra lols here. How bias and fanboyed can you be to believe that BoXer is smarter than Tester. YOU HAVE NO PROOF of that. You know that boxer was better at starcraft broodwar. Just because he was good at broodwar that means hes smarter? What lol? Stephen Hawkings vs NaDa anyone? Faster? Proof? Tester is playing 300apm. That fast enough for you? More efficient? Lol as far as we've seen, Tester has held off 2 of the most devasting cheeses by doing the perfect moves and the perfect time. What have we seen of boxer and oov in sc2? Nothing. right. Shut up and don't bash please? Am I here bashing Boxer and OoV fanboys ? No. I clearly said that next year we will really see these people shine. Tester has been playing starcraft 2 since march/april ish.
I don't get how obvious trolls like this can go unbanned and certain other posts people get instantly banned for.
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WEInfi gunna play? theres some replays of him playing against a bunch of people i haven't heard of on sc2rep.com. He seems to be playing terran. I wonder how hes gunna win without towers
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On September 28 2010 16:44 Sandbox wrote: WEInfi gunna play? theres some replays of him playing against a bunch of people i haven't heard of on sc2rep.com. He seems to be playing terran. I wonder how hes gunna win without towers Make more bunkers. Equivalent of towers eh :D
Clearly he'll probably be bunkering up a lot on opponents or cheesing them with bunker rushes.
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On September 28 2010 16:47 shannn wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 28 2010 16:44 Sandbox wrote: WEInfi gunna play? theres some replays of him playing against a bunch of people i haven't heard of on sc2rep.com. He seems to be playing terran. I wonder how hes gunna win without towers Make more bunkers. Equivalent of towers eh :D Clearly he'll probably be bunkering up a lot on opponents or cheesing them with bunker rushes.
Lol but they are not as OP as towers were in warcraft 3. you gotta make units. even if they are free. i guess that would be good for infi haha
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boxer and iloveoov are both involved in SK management right? So they can't play SC2 professionally due to KeSPA?
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On September 28 2010 20:00 koOma wrote: boxer and iloveoov are both involved in SK management right? So they can't play SC2 professionally due to KeSPA? According to the old thread in the BW forums boxer's contract expired this summer and he decided to reject all offers for bw. So yeah, we might see him play on tv again. *geek chills*
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On September 28 2010 20:08 r33k wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 20:00 koOma wrote: boxer and iloveoov are both involved in SK management right? So they can't play SC2 professionally due to KeSPA? According to the old thread in the BW forums boxer's contract expired this summer and he decided to reject all offers for bw. So yeah, we might see him play on tv again. *geek chills*
Sounds like Nada
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I seriously want to see Oov macro in sc2. that will be insane :O
Really hope to see lots of BW pro to play in next GSL.
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I'm hoping for Flash to bring his ultimate skillz to Terran in SC2.
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![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/XsxlV.png)
This is terribly ironic.
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Oh my god. These are the best news. Without Korea progaming scene SC2 will never be as popular as BW was. Just do the count; they can practice 15 hours a day; a normal EU/US player will not because he has no contract and basically hes a bountyhunter in tourneys; so he will never be as good as the Korean progammers.
In my opinion Korean BW progammers are reticent to give SC2 a pro try because they dont see a lot of depth in the game. Time ago, i saw an interview with SKT1 Telecom Headcoach and he said that the game seemed to him very simple. I dont think it is a matter of time to see that "depth" because the e.sport culture learns faster than 11 years ago. I Think SC2 is a 2010 game, cant be that "hard" or less economical atractive. They need to earn money; so if they'd made a super hard pro e-sport game less people would have played and less interest'd had generate.
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On September 29 2010 09:04 flowandebb wrote:![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/XsxlV.png) This is terribly ironic. lol xD
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On September 29 2010 09:04 flowandebb wrote:![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/XsxlV.png) This is terribly ironic.
lolz n1 :D
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On September 29 2010 09:04 flowandebb wrote:![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/XsxlV.png) This is terribly ironic. That's just epic
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Bumpin.
From Milkis's twitter:
Some rumors: CJ and Hite are merging teams -- iloveoov and Reach (especially the latter) may move on to SC2. Just the word on the street.
Source: http://twitter.com/#!/SC_OddsAndEnds
Might deserve own thread though.
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On October 12 2010 06:44 Grettin wrote:Bumpin. From Milkis's twitter: Show nested quote +Some rumors: CJ and Hite are merging teams -- iloveoov and Reach (especially the latter) may move on to SC2. Just the word on the street. Source: http://twitter.com/#!/SC_OddsAndEndsMight deserve own thread though. 
Reach? omg fuck yeah!!!
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On October 12 2010 06:44 Grettin wrote:Bumpin. From Milkis's twitter: Show nested quote +Some rumors: CJ and Hite are merging teams -- iloveoov and Reach (especially the latter) may move on to SC2. Just the word on the street. Source: http://twitter.com/#!/SC_OddsAndEndsMight deserve own thread though. 
hope its alright i created a thread for that :o
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