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[GSL Stream] Gom doesnt concede, they Listen&Care!

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TorcH
Profile Joined February 2010
United States113 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 14:52:21
September 03 2010 14:15 GMT
#1
Mods: I’m sorry for creating another thread about this topic, but I feel this information needs to be very easily and quickly accessed.

Note: All the information in this post is completely based on the information I have gathered and does not *necessarily* reflect the opinions of GomTV, Blizzard, GSL, or any other party.

As many people have seen, GomTV has changed their original plan for a PPV-only model of viewing GSL to the more standard: Free Normal(Low?)-Quality stream and then a reasonably priced Premium HQ Stream+VODs (You can find the exact options on http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens1/ as soon as it is made public). What I intend to address in this post is some reasons for why they changed their method with a bit of insight into the company itself and all it is trying to do for SC2 and e-Sports.

From the beginning, the PPV method was never a money-making scheme and GomTV should not be compared to Kespa/OGN/MBC for any reason (good or bad). They are trying to learn from the mistakes of their counterparts, but also adopt the successful attributes as they can. What Junkka (GomTV rep and very manner fellow) has stated in his posts about the cost going to cover the stream itself is very true. It was simply because they were not aware of any alternatives at the time. We all know it was not the wisest or most researched decision to make, but they now have other options which they are pursuing in order to do what is best for the community as a whole. It is not because they “tried to squeeze e-sports dry” (or any other similar ideas) and failed, but because, as Junkka said, they are extremely understaffed while still trying to run one of the largest (and hopefully one of the best) e-Sports events in history.

Every employee at GomTV that I have met so far is working very hard and are passionate about what this could become, but they also do not have a strong connection to the foreign community, yet. They respect TL very much and do want to hear your opinions, but things also take time, so be patient, while still providing feedback as much as you can. It seemed a little odd even to me that they had not made any statements concerning this issue earlier, but they were pretty much all in rushed meetings trying to solve the issues and not able to provide a concise statement to TL or any other foreigners.

Also, don’t necessarily expect anything official to come out for a little while, they are still working to provide an even better solution then what we are seeing now and may not want to make a statement they would once again have to retract. They recognize that while the additional US servers they are providing will help tremendously (as can be seen by the “Bandwidth Check” differences between yesterday and today), there is still a long way to go before everyone can receive ideal coverage of the event.

Summary:
-GomTV cares and is in no way evil
-GSL will become a great event if we all support it (not necessarily monetarily, but in any way we can)
-Keep up the good work!

Addressing a few common comments in the various threads:
1. This was absolutely NOT a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door-in-the-face_technique as many people speculated. They are being very honest with their statements and just don’t have the manpower to make 100% correct decisions 100% of the time. Bear with them (get it, because “Gom” = “Bear” in Korean ;-)) and keep providing them *constructive* criticism as you see fit.
2. Many of the pro-payment people stated you should be paying for this service just to support e-Sports. I disagree. Do NOT throw money away just in the name of supporting something, but DO let it be a factor in making some decisions, such as whether or not to pay for the HQ of a match you really want to see versus buying the whole package and only using it once or twice. Basically, be inclined to support GomTV/MLG/ESL/HandsomeNerd/etc if they provide a service you would like, as they prove to help E-Sports, but don’t have it be the sole reason for giving money to some random product/service if it doesn’t actually help or interest you.
3. Again, I can confirm that these events were not planned from the start, but the loud outcry has actually been motivating to GomTV and, with a bit of reflection, should be to everyone here. Take this energy and spread the word of GSL, SC2, and e-Sports to your friends, family, girlfriend, neighbors, grandparents, etc.
4. A fully, free, ad-supported, true-HD stream is the goal, but keep in mind this is EXTREMELY short notice to run a tournament of this scale on *repeat* a very understaffed team. Saying things like “they should just get sponsors, it’d pay for itself” is completely known to them, but you have to have a marketing team already set and able to present your product to *foreign* (most employees speak no, or very little, English) companies that may have never heard of E-Sports before.

Other Clarifications (I may edit in more items here if there are other questions I can clear up):
1. Season = approximately a 1-month tournament. There will be 3 seasons in 2010.
2. GSL will most likely NOT be on OGN this season, nothing is final however.

Overall Message:
Try to erase the past few days from your mind and return to being psyched for what could easily become the greatest ongoing event in E-Sports history. Spread the word.


If you have any further questions, feel free to send them to me or Junkka@gretech.com. However, I may not be able to respond as I’ve been neglecting practicing for a bit, because of this :-/.

(For the record, I had absolutely nothing to do with the decision to make this free, it was all of you. TEAM LIQUID FIGHTING!)

PS. In the interest of returning GSL's image back to something positive like it deserves, can we get the Poll on the side of TL removed, or reset?

On September 03 2010 23:47 HubertFelix wrote:
Are you working for gomtv?


No I am not. I am just a player in their tournament that they've shown great hospitality to (which I'll touch on my experiences in that regard after the event is over for me) and someone who really cares about the growth of e-sports. I have no investment in GomTV, and their success or failure will not affect me any more than it affects any of you, so know that everything I said here is 100% the truth as I know it with no agenda other than trying to support what I see as a potentially awesome event.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
September 03 2010 14:16 GMT
#2
Ty gomtv
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
September 03 2010 14:19 GMT
#3
Torch, I can't even begin to say how much it means to the community that you would sacrifice practicing for the event to put in all this research on our behalf. Thanks!
nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
September 03 2010 14:21 GMT
#4
Agreed. Thx for making this post over the other one.
Dont look at the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
September 03 2010 14:22 GMT
#5
Thanks TorcH and GOMTV!!
GomTV obviously cares about the foreigner community and are trying their best to appease us, with constructive feedback we can make GSL even better!
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
beat
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany11 Posts
September 03 2010 14:26 GMT
#6
Ty GomTV, ty TL and ty Torch for this post and your work for the community.
Go0g3n
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Russian Federation410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 14:28:52
September 03 2010 14:27 GMT
#7
Good stuff, TorcH. Thx for your efforts and good luck in the tournament. One thing baffles me a bit:

Why didn't GOM via any of their representatives just went out and said that in the first place, being:

Due to a number of internal reasons Gretech (GOM), unfortunately, aren't able to provide a free high quality add-free stream at this very moment. The company, however, is fully committed to this goal, as well as promoting StarCraft II as the next generation e-sports game and franchise, bringing the fans all new and exciting, unprecedented even, experience when it comes to participating and observing e-sports.

For the first GSL tournament, the following customer packages (options) are available:
Gratuit: A free 300k live stream with English commentary by...
Premium: At the modest price of $20 - a high quality 500k stream with English commentary by... and all the VODs from the tournament accessible at any time within the duration of the tournament.


NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
September 03 2010 14:28 GMT
#8
TorcH!!
It was a good move by gom but not a great move, VODs are still a problem but will most likely be able to torrent those:p
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Cider
Profile Joined July 2010
United States198 Posts
September 03 2010 14:28 GMT
#9
Thanks TorcH. and I agree, a poll reset would make a lot of sense.
You can't spell Courage without Rage
Bleb
Profile Joined August 2010
Croatia278 Posts
September 03 2010 14:29 GMT
#10
Is there a smiley that has happy but cautious face? I'd totally post that right now
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
September 03 2010 14:30 GMT
#11
good read torch! GL on GSL, and thanks for the info!
gaggar
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada118 Posts
September 03 2010 14:31 GMT
#12
So will they allow re-streaming?

That won't break their backs plus everyone gets what they want for free.

Also will they allow Youtube postings? That'll put a less stress on VOD bandwidth.

Well, will they?
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
September 03 2010 14:31 GMT
#13
TL Fighting! Another one bites the dust 8D
G4MR | I mod day9, djwheat and GLHF's stream
Varbind
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada113 Posts
September 03 2010 14:31 GMT
#14
Torch,

Thank you so much, and my faith has been restored in Gom. I hope they do reset the poll, or create a new one as I now plan to purchase season 1, where I was not before.

Tanatos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States381 Posts
September 03 2010 14:32 GMT
#15
Your are the Torch of Hope!
AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
September 03 2010 14:33 GMT
#16
Hear, hear.

Thanks for taking the time to write that, Torch. And GL fighting!
kar1181
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom515 Posts
September 03 2010 14:33 GMT
#17
Thanks so much Torch for the information and for helping put things into perspective.

I'm really looking forward to seeing the games!
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
September 03 2010 14:33 GMT
#18
ginger power!!!
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azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
September 03 2010 14:34 GMT
#19
GOM should hire some foreigners to work for them :D
gogo esports~
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
September 03 2010 14:34 GMT
#20
+1 for this post.
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