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Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 21:35:37
September 03 2010 21:33 GMT
#301
On September 04 2010 05:39 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 05:19 JinDesu wrote:
On September 04 2010 04:52 Sfydjklm wrote:
On September 04 2010 04:40 Percutio wrote:
20 dollars is pretty good :D

u get ufc PPVs for like 10 dollars a pop. Given that you have friends.
So no, 20 dollars is a freaking robbery.
And before u say well GOMTV is cheaper if you have friends- the stream wil be unwatchable on any TV with decent inching.


errr... quick question - ufc ppvs are only for that one series right? i'd imagine 10 dollars for 4 hours of ufc is not an equivalent exchange to a month of starcraft 2 games

Okay lets approach it from a bit of different angle that is less controversial.
A half a year subscription to UFC high quality video vault costs 60 bucks.
60 bucks for half a year.
60 bucks for half a year
Gom is screwing you, fools.


But they are screwing us much less than before. If you close your eyes it almost feels like there making love to us
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Gatsbi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1134 Posts
September 03 2010 21:47 GMT
#302
On September 04 2010 04:20 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 04:15 Gatsbi wrote:
I honestly notice a super tiny difference between the LQ and HQ stream samples posted here: http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens1/premiumzone/VideoSpecs.php

And the LQ isn't nearly as bad as people are making it out to be... it's actually not that bad

250k lol. That's worse than most Livestream relays.


I'm not comparing it to Livestream though, i'm just saying its not like theres artifacting and shit all over the screen. I realize it's still pretty horrible quality, but it's not as bad as people are making it out to be.. it's still watchable.

But of course I would never ever pay any amount of money to watch that crap, and they will also need to improve free quality if they want e-sports to be taken seriously at all.
"IF WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW IS MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAVE KNOWN. THEN YOU HAVE NOT KNOWN ANYTHINIG YET." - Rev Kojo Smith
PetitCrabe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada410 Posts
September 03 2010 21:47 GMT
#303
It could be a marketing ploy you know, isn't pretty much how gaz price works? it goes freaken high, everyone complains, it goes higher, everyone complains even more then decreases a little bit then everyone is happy...
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 21:52:47
September 03 2010 21:50 GMT
#304
ill pay the 20. completely 100% reasonable. 20$ for vods and stream... completely worth it.

To be honest this is so incredibly awsome of them to do this. They actually listened to everyone and compromised and came up with a fair deal in my opinion. This is a very good sign of things to come, I think. It is very cool to know that they are actually reading and reacting to what everyone has to say, very rare in a business to go "u know they are right...". Truely good news imo.
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2529 Posts
September 03 2010 21:56 GMT
#305
I'll buy the season pass and get access to the VODs. I'd have to stay up until 3 a.m. if I wanted to watch the games live. $20 seems reasonable to me so I'm happy with the deal.
Fritti
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands52 Posts
September 03 2010 21:57 GMT
#306
So I missed all the hubbub apparently, but I'd say $20 for a month of VODs is OK.

Problem is that I can't find out whether I want to buy a HQ stream because the previews on http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens1/premiumzone/VideoSpecs.php don't even work for me. Do they work for others?
TyPsi5
Profile Joined May 2010
United States204 Posts
September 03 2010 21:58 GMT
#307
I decided to pay the 20 bucks after this came out. Not because of the vods or anything but because I appreciate what they are doing for the esports community. One good turn deserves another.
Doraemon.doraemon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States335 Posts
September 03 2010 22:00 GMT
#308
On September 04 2010 06:57 Fritti wrote:
So I missed all the hubbub apparently, but I'd say $20 for a month of VODs is OK.

Problem is that I can't find out whether I want to buy a HQ stream because the previews on http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens1/premiumzone/VideoSpecs.php don't even work for me. Do they work for others?

i downloaded gom player, but cant watch any of the videos on their site... dont know how to fix
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
September 03 2010 22:07 GMT
#309
On September 04 2010 06:33 Archerofaiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 05:39 Sfydjklm wrote:
On September 04 2010 05:19 JinDesu wrote:
On September 04 2010 04:52 Sfydjklm wrote:
On September 04 2010 04:40 Percutio wrote:
20 dollars is pretty good :D

u get ufc PPVs for like 10 dollars a pop. Given that you have friends.
So no, 20 dollars is a freaking robbery.
And before u say well GOMTV is cheaper if you have friends- the stream wil be unwatchable on any TV with decent inching.


errr... quick question - ufc ppvs are only for that one series right? i'd imagine 10 dollars for 4 hours of ufc is not an equivalent exchange to a month of starcraft 2 games

Okay lets approach it from a bit of different angle that is less controversial.
A half a year subscription to UFC high quality video vault costs 60 bucks.
60 bucks for half a year.
60 bucks for half a year
Gom is screwing you, fools.


But they are screwing us much less than before. If you close your eyes it almost feels like there making love to us



haha its not "making love" its just really really rough angry sex ?

hahaha
CrazyCow
Profile Joined August 2010
United States308 Posts
September 03 2010 22:13 GMT
#310
Great news. I have no problem paying $20 for the combined package.
Vokasak
Profile Joined July 2010
United States388 Posts
September 03 2010 22:14 GMT
#311
It's a shame that the VODs won't be free, though. Often times I end up having to miss out on watching them live. I hopeI'm sure an enterprising individual will find a way to make them availible for free...
Practical wisdom is the combination of moral will and moral skill
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13085 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 22:21:02
September 03 2010 22:18 GMT
#312
Haha i think this kinda "just as planned" move from GOM.

Average TL'er "Oh boy we made them drop their price from 50 to 20 TL wins the internet again !!! "

I still think its overpriced for the quality they are offering but im curious to see another poll if you would pay or not with the price of 20$ .

Oh they are offering LQ stream for free which is good too !

Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
September 03 2010 22:22 GMT
#313
On September 04 2010 06:58 TyPsi5 wrote:
I decided to pay the 20 bucks after this came out. Not because of the vods or anything but because I appreciate what they are doing for the esports community. One good turn deserves another.

haha pretty much me too ^_^ i don't mind paying 20 bucks for higher quality stream, but i think a free stream is really important for e-sports and i want as many people to be able to watch as possible so them providing a free stream actually made me pay up~~ that being said i think i would have pussied out on anything more that 20 bucks cause im kinda poor.. 20 bucks is really reasonable though.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
September 03 2010 22:23 GMT
#314
On September 04 2010 05:39 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 05:19 JinDesu wrote:
On September 04 2010 04:52 Sfydjklm wrote:
On September 04 2010 04:40 Percutio wrote:
20 dollars is pretty good :D

u get ufc PPVs for like 10 dollars a pop. Given that you have friends.
So no, 20 dollars is a freaking robbery.
And before u say well GOMTV is cheaper if you have friends- the stream wil be unwatchable on any TV with decent inching.


errr... quick question - ufc ppvs are only for that one series right? i'd imagine 10 dollars for 4 hours of ufc is not an equivalent exchange to a month of starcraft 2 games

Okay lets approach it from a bit of different angle that is less controversial.
A half a year subscription to UFC high quality video vault costs 60 bucks.
60 bucks for half a year.
60 bucks for half a year
Gom is screwing you, fools.


And to watch football (soccer...) each weekend I have to pay 32€ a month. HD version costs even more.
240$ for half a year.
So 20$ for SC2 is not that expensive.
People said they paid 10$ for the MLG weekend. Well.. that's 40$ a month - even more of a "ripoff" than gomTV...

If you dont want to pay - watch the free stream. Yeah, the quality sucks. But it is good enough.

To the "just ustream / livestream" - yeah. And then we get something similiar to day9s show #170 (?) where nothing works for ~45mins. And gomTV just says "we deliver the stream to ustream/livestream, the problem is at their end, not our buisness".
Wonder what reactions they would get then....
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
September 03 2010 22:28 GMT
#315
It's still clearly unreasonable to pay that price simply for a months worth of vods, pretty sure thats more than my internet costs per month and its for not even pro players.
AmaZing
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Nepal299 Posts
September 03 2010 22:31 GMT
#316
There you go, TL has done it again. Shake our fist at capitalism.
ಠ_ಠ
krynis
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada43 Posts
September 03 2010 22:32 GMT
#317
Thank you GOM, thats all I have to say, and hopefully I can pay up for future content to help support awesome tournaments like this one. ^_^
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6228 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 22:35:00
September 03 2010 22:33 GMT
#318
At least now somebody will probably just record the streams and release the vods for free without having to pay upfront first. Really glad GOM's caving in. I wish they'd just release their vods for free, but now that's it's not even going to be hard to find them for free I'm happy

On September 04 2010 07:23 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 05:39 Sfydjklm wrote:
On September 04 2010 05:19 JinDesu wrote:
On September 04 2010 04:52 Sfydjklm wrote:
On September 04 2010 04:40 Percutio wrote:
20 dollars is pretty good :D

u get ufc PPVs for like 10 dollars a pop. Given that you have friends.
So no, 20 dollars is a freaking robbery.
And before u say well GOMTV is cheaper if you have friends- the stream wil be unwatchable on any TV with decent inching.


errr... quick question - ufc ppvs are only for that one series right? i'd imagine 10 dollars for 4 hours of ufc is not an equivalent exchange to a month of starcraft 2 games

Okay lets approach it from a bit of different angle that is less controversial.
A half a year subscription to UFC high quality video vault costs 60 bucks.
60 bucks for half a year.
60 bucks for half a year
Gom is screwing you, fools.


And to watch football (soccer...) each weekend I have to pay 32€ a month. HD version costs even more.
240$ for half a year.
So 20$ for SC2 is not that expensive.
People said they paid 10$ for the MLG weekend. Well.. that's 40$ a month - even more of a "ripoff" than gomTV...

If you dont want to pay - watch the free stream. Yeah, the quality sucks. But it is good enough.

To the "just ustream / livestream" - yeah. And then we get something similiar to day9s show #170 (?) where nothing works for ~45mins. And gomTV just says "we deliver the stream to ustream/livestream, the problem is at their end, not our buisness".
Wonder what reactions they would get then....


And to watch high quality, professional brood war for SEVEN full years I've had to pay exactly $0.00. Any amount of money is too much money to me.
good vibes only
AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
September 03 2010 22:33 GMT
#319
Extremely happy to hear this! They're going to get WAY more people willing to pay 20$ for a HQ stream than they would have gotten for 30$ for any stream at all. Smart business move on their part.
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
September 03 2010 22:39 GMT
#320
On September 04 2010 07:18 SkelA wrote:
Haha i think this kinda "just as planned" move from GOM.

Average TL'er "Oh boy we made them drop their price from 50 to 20 TL wins the internet again !!! "

I still think its overpriced for the quality they are offering but im curious to see another poll if you would pay or not with the price of 20$ .

Oh they are offering LQ stream for free which is good too !



idk it seems like a big task to stream 720-1080p to thousands of people online
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
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