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GOM concedes, will provide free LQ stream - Page 17

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Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
September 03 2010 22:51 GMT
#321
What bit-rate was the free IEM stream for the tourney in Germany. That was pretty painful to watch.
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SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
September 03 2010 22:52 GMT
#322
where the stream at?
♞ Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse. ♞
Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
September 03 2010 22:59 GMT
#323
On September 04 2010 07:23 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 05:39 Sfydjklm wrote:
On September 04 2010 05:19 JinDesu wrote:
On September 04 2010 04:52 Sfydjklm wrote:
On September 04 2010 04:40 Percutio wrote:
20 dollars is pretty good :D

u get ufc PPVs for like 10 dollars a pop. Given that you have friends.
So no, 20 dollars is a freaking robbery.
And before u say well GOMTV is cheaper if you have friends- the stream wil be unwatchable on any TV with decent inching.


errr... quick question - ufc ppvs are only for that one series right? i'd imagine 10 dollars for 4 hours of ufc is not an equivalent exchange to a month of starcraft 2 games

Okay lets approach it from a bit of different angle that is less controversial.
A half a year subscription to UFC high quality video vault costs 60 bucks.
60 bucks for half a year.
60 bucks for half a year
Gom is screwing you, fools.


And to watch football (soccer...) each weekend I have to pay 32€ a month. HD version costs even more.
240$ for half a year.
So 20$ for SC2 is not that expensive.
People said they paid 10$ for the MLG weekend. Well.. that's 40$ a month - even more of a "ripoff" than gomTV...

If you dont want to pay - watch the free stream. Yeah, the quality sucks. But it is good enough.

To the "just ustream / livestream" - yeah. And then we get something similiar to day9s show #170 (?) where nothing works for ~45mins. And gomTV just says "we deliver the stream to ustream/livestream, the problem is at their end, not our buisness".
Wonder what reactions they would get then....

:O Doesn't cost money to watch soccer/football for me, in the States. Other than cable of course. But that gives access to a ton of channels, not just one sport.
Hark!
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
September 03 2010 23:05 GMT
#324
I read on Gosugamers.net that OGN will no longer be airing/streaming the SC2 GSL. Does anyone know if this is true?
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KuroN3ko
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia154 Posts
September 04 2010 00:06 GMT
#325
On September 04 2010 06:33 Archerofaiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 05:39 Sfydjklm wrote:
On September 04 2010 05:19 JinDesu wrote:
On September 04 2010 04:52 Sfydjklm wrote:
On September 04 2010 04:40 Percutio wrote:
20 dollars is pretty good :D

u get ufc PPVs for like 10 dollars a pop. Given that you have friends.
So no, 20 dollars is a freaking robbery.
And before u say well GOMTV is cheaper if you have friends- the stream wil be unwatchable on any TV with decent inching.


errr... quick question - ufc ppvs are only for that one series right? i'd imagine 10 dollars for 4 hours of ufc is not an equivalent exchange to a month of starcraft 2 games

Okay lets approach it from a bit of different angle that is less controversial.
A half a year subscription to UFC high quality video vault costs 60 bucks.
60 bucks for half a year.
60 bucks for half a year
Gom is screwing you, fools.


But they are screwing us much less than before. If you close your eyes it almost feels like there making love to us


Haha, you are hilarious :D
Some convictions are so strong the world must break to accomodate them
laziboi
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada9 Posts
September 04 2010 00:09 GMT
#326
CHECKMATE
Lee Jae Dong / Kim Taek Yong / Lee Young Ho
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 00:17:58
September 04 2010 00:16 GMT
#327
this is all in korean. idk what to do.

edit: nvm i figured it out. but the audio is really fucked up.

edit again: audio fixed now
♞ Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse. ♞
Crushgroove
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 00:26:39
September 04 2010 00:22 GMT
#328
I'm not sure I agree... I mean, I understand that they have to keep all the broke gamers happy or they'll lose some marketshare... but come on. We should really consider how much money and time it costs the company to create this business endeavor in the first place. If they don't get a good return on their investment, what's the point? They're not doing it to contribute to the community... that's for sure.

On September 04 2010 05:39 Sfydjklm wrote:
Okay lets approach it from a bit of different angle that is less controversial.
A half a year subscription to UFC high quality video vault costs 60 bucks.
60 bucks for half a year.
60 bucks for half a year
Gom is screwing you, fools.


I don't think this is relevant either. If you have as many viewers as the UFC, and as many OTHER sources of income (e.g. ticket sales, ppv television, merchandising, ad buys) then you can create an economy of scale in which its acceptable to make very minimal profits from internet vods.

Compared to Gom's situation, Gom should be charging even more than they are if they want to make profits at a level which will sustain good gaming entertainment and competition for years to come.
[In Korea on Vaca] "Why would I go to the park and climb a mountain? There are video games on f*cking TV!" - Kazuke
Fier0
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10 Posts
September 04 2010 00:29 GMT
#329
Quick question, as I'm new to this community. Is this tournament, sponsored by GOM it seems, the first Korean SC2 tournament? How do I know which league is for SC1 and SC2? I'm really confused as you can probably tell.
Prophecy3
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada223 Posts
September 04 2010 00:47 GMT
#330
Although this is an incredibly good move by GOM for SC2, and our community in general lets not forget they just days ago tried to rape us for all the gaming dollars they could regardless of how 'fair' the price was to us (the consumer/community). Let this be a reminder of the power of public outrage the next time ActiBlizz tries to pull some corporate 'might makes right' moves.
Ignorance is Bliss? Indifferance is Atrocity.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
September 04 2010 00:51 GMT
#331
People are going to realize that the only way to watch the games without paying is to get up at 5 in the morning. As far as I am concerned we're still get shafted pretty hard by Gom. I imagine someone will put them on youtube but will TL allow it?
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
September 04 2010 00:55 GMT
#332
On September 04 2010 09:51 floor exercise wrote:
People are going to realize that the only way to watch the games without paying is to get up at 5 in the morning. As far as I am concerned we're still get shafted pretty hard by Gom. I imagine someone will put them on youtube but will TL allow it?


since u live in canada...

you had to do the same thing to watch the world cup/olympics. Sorry the world doesnt revolve their schedule around your time zone... Earthshattering concept I'm sure.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
September 04 2010 00:58 GMT
#333
I'm guessing there's still no free VODs?
blabberrrrr
kariido
Profile Joined December 2007
Saudi Arabia179 Posts
September 04 2010 01:31 GMT
#334
Really? GOM can't provide anything higher than a measly 500kb stream for PAID users while people have been streaming SC2/BW @ >1500kb without charging anyone for quite a while now.

Their low quality stream is reminiscent of how internet video content was in the late 90s, we're in 2010 FFS.
http://campaignforliberty.org/
Trinton07
Profile Joined May 2010
United States70 Posts
September 04 2010 01:33 GMT
#335
still no vods which is disappointing, but at least there's a stream. Honestly though, I would've preferred the vods, because I may not be able to catch the whole thing live.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
September 04 2010 01:34 GMT
#336
On September 04 2010 09:55 mnofstl007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 09:51 floor exercise wrote:
People are going to realize that the only way to watch the games without paying is to get up at 5 in the morning. As far as I am concerned we're still get shafted pretty hard by Gom. I imagine someone will put them on youtube but will TL allow it?


since u live in canada...

you had to do the same thing to watch the world cup/olympics. Sorry the world doesnt revolve their schedule around your time zone... Earthshattering concept I'm sure.


His point is that VODs are not available. For the Olympics and World Cup they are (TV replays matches all the time).

Also the last Olympics were in Canada.
Kenny
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States678 Posts
September 04 2010 01:37 GMT
#337
The video quality they are offering is so terrible..might as well not watch to begin with. I hate being picky but like others have stated, us people that stream do so at 1500+ kbps. Even a stream at 700kbps would be totally manageable for GOM from both a logistic and financial standpoint.
kariido
Profile Joined December 2007
Saudi Arabia179 Posts
September 04 2010 01:41 GMT
#338
On September 04 2010 10:37 Kenny wrote:
The video quality they are offering is so terrible..might as well not watch to begin with. I hate being picky but like others have stated, us people that stream do so at 1500+ kbps. Even a stream at 700kbps would be totally manageable for GOM from both a logistic and financial standpoint.

They can stream the thing on livestream or ustream if they're that self conscious about streaming costs.
http://campaignforliberty.org/
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
September 04 2010 01:41 GMT
#339
On September 04 2010 09:55 mnofstl007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 09:51 floor exercise wrote:
People are going to realize that the only way to watch the games without paying is to get up at 5 in the morning. As far as I am concerned we're still get shafted pretty hard by Gom. I imagine someone will put them on youtube but will TL allow it?


since u live in canada...

you had to do the same thing to watch the world cup/olympics. Sorry the world doesnt revolve their schedule around your time zone... Earthshattering concept I'm sure.

This is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen

I am aware of how timezones work. The point I was trying to convey was that vods are far more valuable to people outside of Korea than the ability to watch the games live for free. This concession of a free, horrible quality stream is marginalized even more so by the time zone difference. The community has for the longest time thrived on vods of Korean games than on the ability to watch them live. Only the relatively dedicated few watch games live unless they start early in Korea like proleague. Traditionally we post these vods, however given the new interest by Gom in foreign fans, TL might be against allowing youtube or some other means of redistribution of the vods without everyone paying Gom their $20 if they want to see the games.

Do you understand now? None of these concepts are quite as earth shattering as timezones, which you have indicated a profound grasp on, so I'm sure if you take your time you can understand the issue that I am raising.
kariido
Profile Joined December 2007
Saudi Arabia179 Posts
September 04 2010 01:45 GMT
#340
You raise a valid point floor. I'm not sure but I think TL will deny any link to uploaded youtube captures of the HQ stream/VODs since they're suppose to be for paid subscribers.
http://campaignforliberty.org/
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